: "i know the proper way to forgo Shaco's aggressive early game ganks but im not diamond and cant be bothered to use my brain everygame to circumvent this so just nerf it becasue im a north american plat player and clearly i understand game balance more than anyone" buy sweeper lvl 1 and sweep shaco boxes put a ward in tri to counter lvl 3 shaco cheese pink ward for when you want to fight revealing any boxes in area or that he puts down the problem is not shaco, the problem is you shaco is a gimmick champion and has an easy solution to literally every play he can make, you are just an NA player and NA players refuse to evolve cringe department from me
> [{quoted}](name=ttv Pennywise,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=69zlERjR,comment-id=001a,timestamp=2019-10-18T06:07:44.234+0000) > > "i know the proper way to forgo Shaco's aggressive early game ganks but im not diamond and cant be bothered to use my brain everygame to circumvent this so just nerf it becasue im a north american plat player and clearly i understand game balance more than anyone" > > buy sweeper lvl 1 and sweep shaco boxes > put a ward in tri to counter lvl 3 shaco cheese > pink ward for when you want to fight revealing any boxes in area or that he puts down > > the problem is not shaco, the problem is you > > shaco is a gimmick champion and has an easy solution to literally every play he can make, you are just an NA player and NA players refuse to evolve > cringe department from me my man, if you're in diamond and have close to a 60% winrate with shaco, he obviously doesn't have an "easy solution to every play he can make". Because if that was the case you would have less than 50% success with him.
Miudmon (EUNE)
: That's being rather disingenuous. shaco has nowhere near the damage of... well, most of your examples, especially the actual assassins, so he really can't assassinate as easely. to demonstrate with the actual assassins of the group, **Shaco **at 6, e max, full combo, 30% target with backstab... three aa backstabs and 5 solo box aa's to be generous - **400+1.9 bonus ad + 2.1 ap** In the same/a similar timeframe **Akali** at 6, q max, two q's, one double e, two passive procs - **338+3.2 bonus ad +3.2 ap ** **Kha** at 6, q max, Two isolated q's, one w, one passive - **579+6.6 bonus ad** **Talon** at 6, w max, one simple qw combo, passive proc - **370+3.1 bonus ad** **Pyke** at 6, q max, q and e hit - **270+1.6 bonus ad + significant cc** **Rengar** q max, full combo, passive q, and valuing the auto reset inherint in those as about 75% of an auto attack - **300+1.5 total ad +1.8 bonus ad +65% attack speed for 5 seconds +0.8 ap ** in all cases except pyke, who has pretty damn significant cc and survivability to compensate, shaco plain and simple has less damage in his base kit than the others.
> [{quoted}](name=Miudmon,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=69zlERjR,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-10-17T15:05:06.739+0000) > > That's being rather disingenuous. shaco has nowhere near the damage of... well, most of your examples, especially the actual assassins, so he really can't assassinate as easely. to demonstrate with the actual assassins of the group, > > **Shaco **at 6, e max, full combo, 30% target with backstab... three aa backstabs and 5 solo box aa's to be generous - **400+1.9 bonus ad + 2.1 ap** > > In the same/a similar timeframe > > **Akali** at 6, q max, two q's, one double e, two passive procs - **338+3.2 bonus ad +3.2 ap ** > > **Kha** at 6, q max, Two isolated q's, one w, one passive - **579+6.6 bonus ad** > > **Talon** at 6, w max, one simple qw combo, passive proc - **370+3.1 bonus ad** > > **Pyke** at 6, q max, q and e hit - **270+1.6 bonus ad + significant cc** > > **Rengar** q max, full combo, passive q, and valuing the auto reset inherint in those as about 75% of an auto attack - **300+1.5 total ad +1.8 bonus ad +65% attack speed for 5 seconds +0.8 ap > ** > > in all cases except pyke, who has pretty damn significant cc and survivability to compensate, shaco plain and simple has less damage in his base kit than the others. except shaco can assassinate kha better than the other way around as his boxes count as people and that burst damage kha has on isolated targets can backfire hard on his insta fear ult
Charmy Bird (EUNE)
: 1 problem fixes this. The good old pink ward reveals stuff and leesin reveals stealth but no we need to protect one of the most op stats in the game.
> [{quoted}](name=Charmy Bird,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=69zlERjR,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-10-17T14:56:01.304+0000) > > 1 problem fixes this. The good old pink ward reveals stuff and leesin reveals stealth but no we need to protect one of the most op stats in the game. You cant put pink wards in every spot on the map and he can see it just as easily as you can, and since its a blink he can go in any direction he wants and you wont know, especially if you put down the ward and he actually went the opposite way.
: Aatrox - Horned Owl Rhaast - Oxen Varus - who the fuck knows?
> [{quoted}](name=mrmeddyman,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=XuzcrfJ1,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-09-08T16:16:12.213+0000) > > Aatrox - Horned Owl > Rhaast - Oxen > Varus - who the fuck knows? Well current varus is the mix of two humans so we have no idea what he could be. I never thought of the horned owl for aatrox, I like it
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Glîtchy (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Malicious Metal,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=IeFhzz8q,comment-id=00030001,timestamp=2017-04-13T18:23:59.068+0000) > > Zed is the fairest assassin there is. Right....cause it's totally fair that his shadow doing the same ability procs thunderlords
Yeah, it is. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
: What Champs do you want to hear more about?
: i think they just wanted 5 blood moons so its like team blood moon shen top akali mid elise jungle kalista and thresh bot diana would replace akali or elise
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: azir is a bird check ur facts
well isn't he related to Sivir? (according to weird human/animal lore){{summoner:31}}
Phreak (NA)
: STEERing him though the champ-up workshop? I see what you did there, Riot.
I didn't. {{champion:64}}
: Champion Update: Tristana
Taric? Urgot? Wasn't Yorick getting one? ):
Lyte (NA)
: Looks like the original post was deleted :o
The only time Ive been banned was for 24 hours because my internet went down. I'm 99% sure i've never gotten any time of ban or chat restriction and I havent gotten a gift. Did I do something wrong? {{item:3070}} {{item:3070}} {{item:3070}}
: End of Season Rewards and the new Master Tier
No ward this time? {{item:3070}} {{item:3070}} {{item:3070}}
: League of Legends Cinematic: A New Dawn
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: I do and im only 10 years old... {{summoner:4}} TIME SHIFT
Its not a girlfriend then...{{champion:5}}

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