Subdue (NA)
: Cool story. What's your software development and server management background? What's your background with player base management?
> [{quoted}](name=Subdue,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=UErThsPW,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-03T14:48:38.207+0000) > > Cool story. What's your software development and server management background? What's your background with player base management? I do have some background in that very field but thats a completely irrelevant point. A company with 2017-2018 profit of 3.5 BILLION USD..... scalability of their infrastructure and access to sufficient resources for coding and testing is 100% a non-issue. Its a matter of priorities. And they aren't investing back in the game to resolve the issues they claim are insurmountable. And thats the key point here--- RIOT claimed these are their constraints. Not me.
: People demonize Lyte but honestly, at least he tried to deal with toxicity in this community
Rito and Lyte's system is broke af. You literally create a more toxic culture by punishing people for defending themselves. This is such an asanine behavior. Its like you want to rewire human psychology. No sorry it doesn't work that way. In life you run into aholes-- at work, in gaming, in stores, in families. Everywhere else you can defend yourself, defend others, or talk them down. In Rito's games you get punished for doing this. In Rito's worldview, the world works better when you ignore racism, sexism, aggressive trolling and insults. Instead you slowly mute people but not until they get their shots in and make people uncomfortable or worse. And you just sit there quietly taking it game after game. Now tell me how in the hell that nurtures a good community. Just bottle it up and ignore it? FFS if I run into some dude taking it out on another player then I let them have it. Will I get punished too- yeah I guess so. But better than sitting back being a worthless fk and hoping Ritos and Lyte's legacy actually magically cure this person (hint: it won't. they will make a new account. its a shite system).
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: Im pretty sure since i use no summoner names and only talk about my experience its not reportable. I am not inciting anger to the people that trolled i just wanted to share what playing league has been like for me.
Sorry dude. I forgot the sarcasm tags.. but that was utter sarcasm
IainG10 (EUW)
: Just because the best thing **you** can do is not tilt and go next, does not mean that it should _**EVER**_ have been allowed to get this bad. It's quite clear that at least some of the decision-makers at Riot and/or Tencent care fuck all for their playerbase.
Well I forget his name. But that idiot brainiac consultant they had here trying to run psychological profiles and build freudian logic into the game just made it 100000x worse. It did nothing to reform folks. But dang did they love to tout how much of a genius he was and let him sh*t all over the game for a couple years pissing everyone off.
: you don't need to point it out. one report is all it takes for that game to be checked and used as a piece of evidence for determining a ban. actively interacting in the scenario in any way is unnecessary. just keep your mouth closed and your enter key unused, report him, and move the hell on. pointing out just make you a target. you end up a target? you'll want to defend yourself and the entire time you'll look like an idiot but feel justified. THAT is when you'll say something equally toxic and be reported for it. you wont even realize you did it. and it could just be avoided instead.
and thats why Rito system sucks. And people like you never get it. So I have a feeder I can't even say yo dude can you relax and just play please? Stop feeding please (if they actually clearly are)? etc. ... but noooo. I gotta sit back and take it. Just like every other sh*t person in the game tossing around sexism, racism, clearly verbally abusive words around. Just sit back and suck it up or you get punished too. Meanwhile the real world. And every other game in the world. You can defend yourself. But not here. You get to log in and be a punching back for legit ignorant terrible people.
: Had my worst experience in league today
Well this forum post is probably reportable. According to Rito policy the feeder has more protections than you. Accusing him of feeding even though he literally fed and said he was going to feed more? How dare you ask him to stop! How dare you suggest he is a feeder! Lets start with giving you a chat ban, or maybe a two week ban. We'll take some honor way. Make you admit your wrongdoings. Then maybe you'll learn not to call feeders.. feeders. That is the Rito way. Either accept being a punching bag for the garbage that lives in this game, or play something else. Edit: and don't forget the white knights bound to show up in any post like this telling you "just mute its so ez, you control how you respond to feeding/inting/racism/sexism/etc." .. yeah. If you mean I gotta suck it up and not dare utter a single word back to that person. Then probably get queued with them next game again.
: ARURF Postmortem?
they so totally aren't going to give you numbers. I love urf. But given Rito's track record with hating rotating game mode and their apparent inability to produce more than 3 full time game modes in 2019 (even though Blizzard was doing this in like 1995)... I think the two month URF run was probably more laziness than anything else. They probably didn't feel like bringing the servers down.
: I agree with OP. There are some limiting factors though. Playing on weekends, especially in the morning, is virtually impossible. Kids roll out of bed, "dude let's play some LoL!!!" -- and they troll and flame like there's no tomorrow. Also, the worst flaming I've ever seen is in pre-30 accounts. I'm just leveling an alt and oh boy, what a ride. What I read in chat there would make Donald Trump blush. Which is absurd since there's nothing at stake at all. In my regular low-to-mid elo games, it's actually manageable. Maybe you hit a rough patch, mate, but I certainly feel you.
> [{quoted}](name=ArrowsOfDesire,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=MNTA9Ama,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-04-12T09:49:02.973+0000) > > I agree with OP. There are some limiting factors though. Playing on weekends, especially in the morning, is virtually impossible. Kids roll out of bed, "dude let's play some LoL!!!" -- and they troll and flame like there's no tomorrow. Also, the worst flaming I've ever seen is in pre-30 accounts. I'm just leveling an alt and oh boy, what a ride. What I read in chat there would make Donald Trump blush. Which is absurd since there's nothing at stake at all. In my regular low-to-mid elo games, it's actually manageable. Maybe you hit a rough patch, mate, but I certainly feel you. Thanks brother. Or sister. Either way thanks. Nice to have a little sympathy. I'm a grown man, but just because I'm in my 30s doesn't mean I'm magically immune to strangers going out of their way to actively belittle and insult me for hours on end. Man I just want to sit back with my coffee, play a couple games and go enjoy my day. Instead half the time its have my coffee while trying not to blow my top at non stop trolling. Some days.
: Monthly Reminder That Twisted Treeline is a Stain on League of Legends
edit: 15 billion dollar company can't even support other game modes, rotating game modes, etc... because somehow in 2019 their architecture can't possibly handle it. What a joke. I still enjoy Twisted Treeline. This game is definitely on a long downward spiral and no "LoL 2.0" on the horizon. No true quality of life updates on the horizon. Just more skins and more abandoned and neglected game modes.
: If you get upset at text chat, mute the chat. If you get upset at the game, stop playing the game for a while. These are solutions you come to when you grow out of your teen years and understand that video games aren't your whole life. If the game upsets you that much, perhaps its time to move on, or find a different hobby.
> [{quoted}](name=Boonestoorm,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=MNTA9Ama,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-04-08T13:35:30.148+0000) > > If you get upset at text chat, mute the chat. If you get upset at the game, stop playing the game for a while. > > These are solutions you come to when you grow out of your teen years and understand that video games aren't your whole life. If the game upsets you that much, perhaps its time to move on, or find a different hobby. Gotta be hard to hear me from high up on your horse there. I didn't realize I asked for passive aggressive totally useless replies here. Toxicity in this game isn't imagined, its the reason this game is the very definition of online trolls and pricks. A game doesn't have to be "my whole life" to be upsetting. I mean unless you typically just ignore people actively aggressively trying to insult or belittle you for fun? I doubt that. I imagine you'd respond here like you do in real life. And besides that, yes when we grow out of our teen years we have less time for games, which means less time for tolerating trolls or immature children (for example- you). We want to log in and play a quick game or two and go.
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Luzz (NA)
: ARURF to be PERMA
This post has 1.5 THOUSAND views. The next closest in Rants is literally like.. 32 views. That says a lot. Too bad the Rito forum algorithm pushes the SUPER popular post down to like 12th on the list of top forum discussions, even though its hundreds of times more popular than everything around it.
Luzz (NA)
: ARURF to be PERMA
I think another overlooked item- League is pushing ten years of age. Your playerbase is aging along with it. I'm 35 now... and even the guys pushing 30 don't have time to pursue the pipe dream of being competitive and climbing ladders- your population of 18-22 year old "wannabe pros" is generally static, but the population of older guys with families, careers, responsibilities and not as much time- thats growing year by year. We enjoy kicking back and enjoying a mode without balancing resources like mana, that moves faster, but offers a lot of the fun that normals give you. Think about making it permanent. Besides.. its 2019- virtually every game in the universe has run custom game modes or fun game modes in a permanent basis. This temporary rotating game mode nonsense makes zero sense to me.
Turfnima (NA)
: Please RITO, I will behave and even pay for subscription if you can bring back urf for me.
Seriously I didn't hesitate to pick that up.
: if at least they keep rotating modes instead of only removing
Yeah it makes no sense to me that we are like "Well hell its Tuesday... time to randomly turn off URF and not replace it with anything.. until we randomly feel like running another event."
: It's on a case by case basis obviously (You are completely forgetting that ARAM was a player built fun mode that Riot made permanent so it does happen). If you want answers to your question about URF itself, google it yourself. They've already talked about it.
Yeah I remember that discussion, which seemed to boil down to "our playerbase is toxic and URF makes them grumpier so we don't want to retain it forever." Unless there was another one.
Rioter Comments
: WE WANT URF BACK
Yeah I didn't realize it was leaving like... randomly on a Tuesday. WTF. I thought we were gonna get a solid week here. They are so, so bad about rotating modes. Then they finally leave something up a lot of players like, but I didn't see the end date/time posted anywhere. I'd have played more if that was the case.
SSmotzer (NA)
: You mean like how Riot gives out skins, keys, and gems to people who are nice?
If positive reinforcement worked, League wouldn't be the meme flagship for toxic behavior.
: Can I Just Say, This Is One of The Best April Fools Events since Urf
Personally I think most of us gave up on seeing even more interesting modes like URF. This is just.. okay.
: How Riot can save League of Legends... tl;dr Enable Rotating Game Modes forever.
I wrote this elsewhere but at the end of the day their excuses are trash and why folks like me who have been here for years and years are drifting away. This has been one of the most profitable gaming enterprises in history. Development costs are at a minimum, its not like they have to release a new game on multiple systems, consoles, hardware, etc. every year. Its mostly in-game balancing, server and network load management... new art? I dunno. But given the big, fat, pile of money that Tencent and Riot Games is sitting on, there is absolutely no reason to excuse the lack of development or new game modes over the past almost decade. Truly, we have what.. 2.5 game modes and a hobbled usually dead rotating game mode. Even fan favorites like URF are mostly dismissed for any number of reasons that make no sense to anyone. And even then, only hosted over weekends or randomly not at all. Schedules are practically unheard of so you can't even see what to expect say... when you have off in a month or two. And now rumor of them just bailing on Rotating Game Mode altogether? Sure.. keep it up Riot, this is how games die. You aren't any more special than dozens of games before you.. eventually games die. Am I being dramatic? Probably.. but this is just the same, tired, very tired story.. and after the better part of a decade, its probably time for more of us to move on.
: Riot shitcanned Rotating Game Mode. They discuss it in rather odd vagaries in an ASK RIOT post. If you didn't read it, "something something something new client, something something something a lot of work, something something something our only good mode was URF but we hate it so we're not bothering with others, but we'll still give you an occasional game mode, but never URF again so don't ask, but probably Poro King and Ascension". That's the long and short of their stance on Rotating Game Mode, One-For-All, URF, and others.
> [{quoted}](name=Scary Door,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yEAHWg6F,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-03-29T23:46:47.773+0000) > > Riot shitcanned Rotating Game Mode. They discuss it in rather odd vagaries in an ASK RIOT post. > > If you didn't read it, "something something something new client, something something something a lot of work, something something something our only good mode was URF but we hate it so we're not bothering with others, but we'll still give you an occasional game mode, but never URF again so don't ask, but probably Poro King and Ascension". > > That's the long and short of their stance on Rotating Game Mode, One-For-All, URF, and others. So is that for real? I never understood a.) the resistance to new game modes and b.) the lethargy towards URF when despite the number crunching it must absolutely crush their financials with all the skins sold during that period... I'll probably just say goodbye once and for all if this is the path they take. I have been playing since like... late season 2.. but its 20-fuckin-18 and we have a whole 2.5 maps to pick from still, and a half-assed rotating mode that is barely supported. Get with the times, you had the better half of a decade to do more. Its almost like Tencent wants this to fail so they can shift resources to a newer effort like mobile games or Fortnite or something..
Coleslaw (NA)
: If you hide her health bar while burrowed, she becomes borderline broken. She could still gank effectively with minuscule amounts of HP and force flashes and much more cautious play out of laners when any other jungler would just get themselves killed. There's been a push for clarity and counterplay in League, not a lack of it, and something like that just is so unclear and uncounterable (because what if she IS at full health? are you going to 100-0 her?) that it really wouldn't work.
Not sure why you got so many downvotes, holy fucking grumpy community.
Coleslaw (NA)
: If you hide her health bar while burrowed, she becomes borderline broken. She could still gank effectively with minuscule amounts of HP and force flashes and much more cautious play out of laners when any other jungler would just get themselves killed. There's been a push for clarity and counterplay in League, not a lack of it, and something like that just is so unclear and uncounterable (because what if she IS at full health? are you going to 100-0 her?) that it really wouldn't work.
Not sure why you got so many downvotes, holy fucking grumpy community.

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