Kei143 (NA)
: Actually .. if they did have clinical suicidal tendencies / depression., chances are they aren't leaving their room. Just some professional experience to share.
exactly the problem, if they were to get out and meet people they would be happier
: Oh so it was 100% true and there was 0 sarcasm in it? Grow up kid lol
this is a video game chat room, arent video games supposed to be for kids? dont tell me to grow up, if i were grown up id do better things with my time than play league
Sarutobi (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=not good,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=wZZEeAZk,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2016-04-12T11:44:07.046+0000) > > If you're in a football match and someone kieeps yelling "you fucking suck, kid!" for every mistake, you're not gonna focus well and play worse. Same thing woth league of leggo. Not only that if the person screaming that is playing for a team you know damn well he will get fined, possibly fired for Unsportmanlike conduct. It rarely happens because you know most people know how to be a civilized human being. But this is the Internet and you can get away with threatening to kill someone, or use racial slurs as if it's the only words you know.
yeah youre right, guys in actual sports never trash talk eachother for fear of getting fined or suspended. they are always courteous and warm to eachother.
Erdrik (NA)
: > an athletic activity requiring skill _**or**_ physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc. . > requiring skill _**or**_ physical prowess . >skill _**or**_ physical . >**or** Physical prowess or physical ability is not a requirement for an activity to be a sport. Moving 4 fingers is in fact a physical action. Moving just 1 finger is a physical action. Pressing a button is not some magical psychokinetic power. You must physically move your finger to physically touch the button. To be an athelete in the LCS requires: Skill and knowledge of the rules of the game. Exceptional dexterity and timing to translate those skills into the field of play. E-sports are sports. League of Legends is a sport.
There is a difference between a game and a sport little guy With your logic, call of duty is a sport, playing any video game is a sport, get over yourself, video games arent sports, sport
Erdrik (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=3BallWarsaw,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=wZZEeAZk,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2016-04-12T15:01:52.894+0000) > > Most who cry about people being toxic have never played competitive sports. Trash talking I real life sports is ok because you can read body language, read facial expression, and are very likely to know the other player well enough. This is not the case in LoL. More often than not you don't actually know the other player in the slightest, and text does not convey intent or tone. > ...(Video games are not a sport) ... Not all games are sports, but League of Legends **is a sport**. An e-sport is a sport.
if league is a sport then trash talk should be just fine regardless of whether or not you can "convey intent or tone", or at least people shouldnt be such pussies about it and grow some thicker skin
: Yep, suicide never existed before video games and the internet. Great point. {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
suicide is one of the weakest most selfish things a person can do first off. second, i didnt bring suicide and depression into an argument about a video game, he did so i respond to it
: And there he goes putting others down again lolololol
calling someone a genius and saying that people should worship the ground he walks on is a put down since when? seems like a compliment to me
: By that you insulted yourself. You Chat to flame others, thus it's affecting your gameplay (you press enter and type after all). You beat yourself.
you can chat any time, i do so when i am not in danger in game, thus having no effect on my gameplay. Guess i didnt beat myself i beat you
: Your behaviour is a shame and if words are nothing someone should be effected from - talk to your parents like you do it here. Or maybe you already do this like ages and that's why you act like nobody likes you.
i have respect for my parents, not a bunch of anonymous idiots on a video game chat board who are all on their high horse about being honorable and nice on a video game. if we were talking eye to eye id talk to you the same way if you were trying to push some bonehead idea
: Because being a dick to people will surely make them play better. {{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}} {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} Ever stopped to wonder that maybe, just maybe, the problem isn´t people who are supposedly weak minded, but with the person actually making them play worse or feel worse? The chat is there but that doesn´t mean you have to use it. Don´t press Enter. Don´t type stuff and send. If you can´t say anything useful, don´t say a thing. It´s that goddamn simple.
words shouldnt make people play worse or feel bad, my point exactly, it IS that goddamn simple By trash talking someone you are not physically making them play worse, if they play worse because of trash talk, thats their own goddamn fault and it shows that they are weak minded because it enforces that they are letting things effect them. I always start off trying to politely give advice to which i am given a "fuck you you suck noob you dont know what youre talking about", doesnt matter how well you are doing when you try to give advice to some people too, ive been 12/1 and been called a noob when trying to give polite tips, that is when i start to shit talk
: You are a hilarious trogolodyte.
i have insomnia and the league community is too easy to troll, look at all the comments my post has garnered
o Maui o (NA)
: Man, this is... just absurd, on multiple levels. First of all, you're victim-blaming. "It's YOUR fault you can't take it when someone is being a dick to you!" Second, you're being unreasonable. Tilting because someone is being a dick to you is not a sign of weakness, and it's definitely not a reason to stop and reflect upon some imagined failing. Third, you're establishing a ridiculous double standard. It's okay for YOUR emotions to affect you, but everyone else must be able to perfectly govern their reactions. Fourth, and possibly most importantly, you're trying to rationalize being a dick to total strangers in a video game. Seriously, dude.
key words: video game all i need to say, thank you
Erdrik (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=ikiledrogerrabit,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=wZZEeAZk,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2016-04-12T07:07:31.776+0000) > > yeah, call me weak for telling people that they shouldnt let the words of others affect them. isnt hypocrisy great Don't falsify other peoples statements. Serene Grace said people are weak for "**putting others down to make themselves feel superior**".
youre right he isnt implying anything. youre a genius, people should worship the ground you walk on
: do you ever think about if people, instead of using video games and the internet as an outlet, got over themselves and actually went out and talked/vented to real, physical people that depression and suicidal thoughts would be less of a problem?
not sure why this is getting down votes, it is a legitimate, helpful solution/suggestion for anyone going through depression. just saying. if you see this and are battling depression, try it, you might like what you find
: No they don't. And it's because they want to help people, and having an official title makes that easier/people more likely to listen to them
since i've been told i'm entitled to my opinion here, i think having an official title on a discussion board for a free game just makes you a dipshit but i'll assume most will have a conflicting opinion here as most of you probably think that being an arbiter is honorable(again, this is a video game discussion board)
: oops that was mean and talking down to you, i might have just hurt your fragile feelings, im the scum of the earth and my parents should be ashamed
you'd think that me admitting to being the scum of the earth would get some upvotes. whats a guy gotta do to get some love around here??
: No they don't. And it's because they want to help people, and having an official title makes that easier/people more likely to listen to them
i think that might be the saddest thing ive heard all month hahaha
: I've seen people die mid-sentence while flaming others. I beg to differ.
thats why i wait to type until im at a point where that wont happen lmao
: > [{quoted}](name=ikiledrogerrabit,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=wZZEeAZk,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2016-04-12T07:04:07.505+0000) > > first things first mr all knowing league of legends god, all i have ever gotten is a 10 game chat restriction, but way to jump to conclusions and label me as toxic. I am just fed up that even giving advice in game is grounds to be reported now and get a ban, no matter how polite you are. People also troll on chat to bait others into saying something that will get them banned http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/tfvhzsvq-just-curious Busted.
i cherish all of your downvotes serene grace, i really hope i hit a nerve with you
: > [{quoted}](name=ikiledrogerrabit,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=wZZEeAZk,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-04-12T06:58:59.332+0000) > > ever heard the saying "sticks and stones can break my bones but words can never hurt me"? If chat effects you youre weak So things like depression and suicide don't exist right? Because anyone struggling with that are weak. /s
do you ever think about if people, instead of using video games and the internet as an outlet, got over themselves and actually went out and talked/vented to real, physical people that depression and suicidal thoughts would be less of a problem?
: Please provide chat logs that prove anyone was ever punished for this (and it was not found to be an error).
do you get paid by riot to be an arbiter on these boards? if not, why do you waste your time? i await your response
: > [{quoted}](name=ikiledrogerrabit,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=wZZEeAZk,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-04-12T06:58:59.332+0000) > > ever heard the saying "sticks and stones can break my bones but words can never hurt me"? If chat effects you youre weak So things like depression and suicide don't exist right? Because anyone struggling with that are weak. /s
yes youre exactly right, if you dont let things get to you depression wont be a problem for you. a little bit of thick skin will go a long way Also, youre comparing a video game chat to people being depressed about actual life issues and suicide, think about it
: different account, i took a long, hard look in the mirror after receiving that perma ban but i am reformed now and i only have riot's tribunal and punishment system to thank for that. but its nice to know ive got the video game police on my case lmao have fun with your self esteem issues champ, maybe spend less money on skins and go see a therapist
oops that was mean and talking down to you, i might have just hurt your fragile feelings, im the scum of the earth and my parents should be ashamed
: > [{quoted}](name=ikiledrogerrabit,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=wZZEeAZk,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2016-04-12T07:04:07.505+0000) > > first things first mr all knowing league of legends god, all i have ever gotten is a 10 game chat restriction, but way to jump to conclusions and label me as toxic. I am just fed up that even giving advice in game is grounds to be reported now and get a ban, no matter how polite you are. People also troll on chat to bait others into saying something that will get them banned http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/tfvhzsvq-just-curious Busted.
different account, i took a long, hard look in the mirror after receiving that perma ban but i am reformed now and i only have riot's tribunal and punishment system to thank for that. but its nice to know ive got the video game police on my case lmao have fun with your self esteem issues champ, maybe spend less money on skins and go see a therapist
: It's one thing for comments to affect your gameplay. It's another for it to affect your life. In that respect I completely disagree with you. I will agree to the extent that people in general should have thicker skin and/or block them, however that changes absolutely nothing. That said, it doesn't give the right to be mean in chat (and yes, I'm a hypocrite).
best comment ive read on this thread so far, but you dont even need to be mean on chat to get a ban now. all you have to do is suggest that someone do something different than they are already doing (ie build, strategy, etc)
: > [{quoted}](name=ikiledrogerrabit,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=wZZEeAZk,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-04-12T06:58:59.332+0000) > > ever heard the saying "sticks and stones can break my bones but words can never hurt me"? If chat effects you youre weak I feel sorry for your parents if you use that as an excuse to talk down to other people. You know what kind of people are weak? Putting others down to make themselves feel superior.
yeah, call me weak for telling people that they shouldnt let the words of others affect them. isnt hypocrisy great
: > [{quoted}](name=ikiledrogerrabit,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=wZZEeAZk,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-04-12T06:57:30.996+0000) > > its not up to me how others live their lives, but all of the bans and whatnot are why the league community is going to shit I don't think you are in a proper position when you are toxic yourself, thinking about the "good" of the community. In fact is system is working as intended removing players such as yourself OUT of it.
first things first mr all knowing league of legends god, all i have ever gotten is a 10 game chat restriction, but way to jump to conclusions and label me as toxic. I am just fed up that even giving advice in game is grounds to be reported now and get a ban, no matter how polite you are. People also troll on chat to bait others into saying something that will get them banned
: More like your opinion honestly.
ever heard the saying "sticks and stones can break my bones but words can never hurt me"? If chat effects you youre weak
: Sorry but it's not up to you how others live their life.
its not up to me how others live their lives, but all of the bans and whatnot are why the league community is going to shit
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: The only issue I have with bans is that it's not actually solving any problem, but just moving it somewhere else. Not that Riot actually has much of a choice in this regard, but it's a bit sad to see. On my journey so far on my new account (level 16 so far), I'm seeing FAR more toxicity than I ever have in my years playing League. Game-long back and forths of sniping, report requests left and right... There's no way so many new players can be like this, it has to be a residual effect of banned players getting back into the system and kindling the proverbial fire down here instead. For someone like me who's trying to reform and enjoy the game again, it's just... dreadful to watch. I could report them, but what's even the use at this early a level? If they get punished, they'll just make yet another account and get right back to that level in a week tops. _(Yeah, I know I can mute them, but that's besides the point here.)_
thats exactly my point with this post, its kind of hypocritical to permanently ban someone who can just go and create another account. almost like riot is scamming people who waste money on this game
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: > [{quoted}](name=ikiledrogerrabit,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=tfvhzsvq,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-04-12T00:07:12.564+0000) > > not smart enough to cheat/hack lol > so they can upgrade an initial 14 day ban to permanent for being toxic? > like, i had a 14 day ban, logged in after it wouldve been over and it said i was permabanned It's not exactly unheard of, there are cases presented here in the forum where players claimed their chat restriction/ban were unjustified, then a Rioter stepped in and did a manual review of their chatlog. Their punishment increased to permaban from those. There could be other reasons of course besides manual review, may be your crime didn't caught up to you in time? Maybe your behaviour prior your ban was REALLY awful?
ive gotten bans for politely asking people to do things in game so i wouldnt be surprised by anything. riot is getting rediculous on bans lately imo
Erdrik (NA)
: In regards to chat related toxicity, the severity of the punishment is not based on severity of offense. It is a 4 strike system, where severity of the punishment is based on how many strikes you have accrued: 1st strike - 10 game chat ban 2nd strike - 25 game chat ban 3rd strike - 14 day full ban 4th strike - perma The transition to perma is more sensitive because to get there you either have to do something extreme, or you have to consistently prove you are unwilling to reform. It does seem odd that you were punished while inactive for a full month after your 14 day. Were you doing anything League related at all during that month?
nothing on that account, no i logged back in after the 14 day ban shouldve been over and it said i was permanently banned, didnt touch that account until i logged back in
: Yes if you cheated or you are a toxic scumbag.
not smart enough to cheat/hack lol so they can upgrade an initial 14 day ban to permanent for being toxic? like, i had a 14 day ban, logged in after it wouldve been over and it said i was permabanned
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AraMoOse (NA)
: Chat logs would help
really dont get how chat can be cause for a permanent ban regardless but i guess thats how league is
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