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I think I understood this wrong. If the user reported you to the FBI and the FBI requested your data, then Riot has no other action but to give them what they request. Your beef isn't with Riot it's with that kid who called the FBI and filled a false report, basically you got swatted.
: Well, anyway, i don't really think Riot can get away with not giving away your personal information when 'asked' by a government force, just like you can't just say 'its my personal information, Im not telling anything' if asked by a cop
> [{quoted}](name=Posui Gart,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=278KFM7l,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2020-02-09T00:39:06.419+0000) > > Well, anyway, i don't really think Riot can get away with not giving away your personal information when 'asked' by a government force, just like you can't just say 'its my personal information, Im not telling anything' if asked by a cop What makes you think the FBI asked for the information?
: > [{quoted}](name=Lord Dusteon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=278KFM7l,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2020-02-09T00:27:32.700+0000) > abridging the freedom of speech **or** of the press, Freedom of speech and Freedom of the press are two different things
> [{quoted}](name=NontoxicKappa,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=278KFM7l,comment-id=00010002,timestamp=2020-02-09T01:26:28.791+0000) > > abridging the freedom of speech **or** of the press, > > Freedom of speech and Freedom of the press are two different things Why even reply if that's all you're going to write.
: I'm reasonably sure Riot (and any other forum or game) actually has an obligation to follow up on any threats or perceived threats of domestic terrorism, suicide, etc. Even just the tiny bits of chatlogs you show indicate that they are not at fault here: [4:56] [All] Diana: cant wait until riot gets hit like the other techies [5:29] [All] Diana: will be fun to watch them squirm...free speech...lets see facebook youtube google...only a matter of time [5:39] [All] Diana: until riot is on the chopping block" You have already said what is basically a manifesto of terrorism. It doesn't matter what you say to justify it after the fact in a forum; what matters is what is actually written, just here, is already perceived threat. Given that this all took place in less than a minute I am inclined to believe there's far more to the chatlogs that you did not show. Additionally, most of what you said is bullshit. * "Riot illegally gave personal data without the proper paperwork" From the Terms of Service: "While using the Riot Services, you must comply with all laws, rules and regulations in the jurisdiction in which you reside. You must also comply with the acceptable use and behavioral policies that we publish from time to time on our websites, apps and games and the behavioral rules listed below (collectively the “User Rules”). The User Rules posted to our websites, apps and games or set out in this section are not meant to be exhaustive, and we reserve the right to modify them, as well as take appropriate disciplinary measures" Most likely the jurisdiction you live in has laws about reporting criminal activity and intent. These laws include an obligation to report a suspected problem, which your little rant falls under. Riot is fully within their rights to report you, and in fact would likely be breaking several laws if they did not do so. * "The FBI have violated my 1st and 4th under our Constitutions 1-10th amendments "The Bill of Rights" I hope everyone knows the 1st, the 4th should have protected me from illegal search and seizure." No. They didn't. You obviously have never read either of them. The 1st, in full, reads the following: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." You aren't an establishment of religion or exercising your religion. You aren't the press. You aren't peaceably assembling to petitioning the government. The 1st does not apply in this case, and has not been violated in any way, shape, or form. The 4th, in full, reads the following: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against **unreasonable searches** and seizures shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched and the persons or things to be seized." (bold added by me for emphasis) Keyword: unreasonable. A potential domestic terrorist or planned killing spree makes said search reasonable. Whether you want to wax eloquent about your innocence or not, the fact remains even the tiny bit of text you show us indicates that the given response was not unreasonable. All in all, your case is mostly you weasel wording about with a low understanding of how laws or companies work. I suspect your full chat logs were also far worse, but even the tiny bit you show is damning evidence that what happened is the correct, lawful outcome of a company giving information on a potential terrorist to the government and the government responding.
> [{quoted}](name=Lord Dusteon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=278KFM7l,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2020-02-09T00:27:32.700+0000) > > I'm reasonably sure Riot (and any other forum or game) actually has an obligation to follow up on any threats or perceived threats of domestic terrorism, suicide, etc. Even just the tiny bits of chatlogs you show indicate that they are not at fault here: > > [4:56] [All] Diana: cant wait until riot gets hit like the other techies > [5:29] [All] Diana: will be fun to watch them squirm...free speech...lets see facebook youtube google...only a matter of time > [5:39] [All] Diana: until riot is on the chopping block" > > You have already said what is basically a manifesto of terrorism. It doesn't matter what you say to justify it after the fact in a forum; what matters is what is actually written, just here, is already perceived threat. Given that this all took place in less than a minute I am inclined to believe there's far more to the chatlogs that you did not show. > > Additionally, most of what you said is bullshit. > > * "Riot illegally gave personal data without the proper paperwork" > > From the Terms of Service: "While using the Riot Services, you must comply with all laws, rules and regulations in the jurisdiction in which you reside. You must also comply with the acceptable use and behavioral policies that we publish from time to time on our websites, apps and games and the behavioral rules listed below (collectively the “User Rules”). The User Rules posted to our websites, apps and games or set out in this section are not meant to be exhaustive, and we reserve the right to modify them, as well as take appropriate disciplinary measures" > > Most likely the jurisdiction you live in has laws about reporting criminal activity and intent. These laws include an obligation to report a suspected problem, which your little rant falls under. Riot is fully within their rights to report you, and in fact would likely be breaking several laws if they did not do so. > > * "The FBI have violated my 1st and 4th under our Constitutions 1-10th amendments "The Bill of Rights" I hope everyone knows the 1st, the 4th should have protected me from illegal search and seizure." > > No. They didn't. You obviously have never read either of them. The 1st, in full, reads the following: > > "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." > > You aren't an establishment of religion or exercising your religion. You aren't the press. You aren't peaceably assembling to petitioning the government. The 1st does not apply in this case, and has not been violated in any way, shape, or form. > > The 4th, in full, reads the following: > > "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against **unreasonable searches** and seizures shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched and the persons or things to be seized." (bold added by me for emphasis) > > Keyword: unreasonable. A potential domestic terrorist or planned killing spree makes said search reasonable. Whether you want to wax eloquent about your innocence or not, the fact remains even the tiny bit of text you show us indicates that the given response was not unreasonable. > > > All in all, your case is mostly you weasel wording about with a low understanding of how laws or companies work. I suspect your full chat logs were also far worse, but even the tiny bit you show is damning evidence that what happened is the correct, lawful outcome of a company giving information on a potential terrorist to the government and the government responding. All you said is straight mumbo jumbo that honestly is a joke and I don't know why you replied in the first place. First off the bill of rights and the amendments that make up the bill of rights go much deeper than what is written. Anyone who has taken a single year of civics would know that. Secondly about your idea that he "threatened" riot games, that's just wrong. For a threat to actually be taken serious in a legal respect the threat must be a true threat. According to the supreme court of the U.S most "threats" don't even come close to a true threat. A simple definition of the a true threat is the following: A type of speech that uses on of the following, obscenity, child pornography, fighting words, and the advocacy of imminent lawless action, however if you read further it says that the supreme court has ruled that the person who is receiving the threat is through being "threatened" placed in serious harm by the speaker. Now lets give you the benefit of the doubt, lets say Riot.inc felt fully threatened by something, that when you read the context of the speech isn't even threatening. What this would mean is Riot.inc would have an obligation to protect those who are also threatened, for instance saying something along the lines of: "You piece of **** I'm going to kill you" in game to the inting Garen. If we were to say Riot.inc was threatened by the OP's words then so was the kid linting mid lane. Now lets get to the reality of the situation. Nothing the OP said was threatening in any way. He never once said he was going to put Riot on the chopping block, he never once said that he was going to bomb Riot. The fact of the matter is, Riot has no grounds to report him to any proper authority. In fact this is literally a prime example of a false report. No crime has been committed. No lets move on to the issue of data security. First to the OP, you're wrong. Those fines aren't about companies leaking data. In fact if a company is found leaking data they wont just be finned get that straight. In your case Riot.inc linked your data to the FBI. The companies you were talking about were finned for data breaches, very big difference. For instance Facebook was finned that sum of money, which by the way was not what they actually paid, because of a large data breach in which peoples personal information as taken due to a lack of data security. This is a very real issue, and the fact of the matter is it will probably happen again because their is no legal standard for proper data security. This can be seen in the breach Equifax who had a data breach that lasted for 74 days. What this means is the hacker(s) were inside of the Equifax system for 74 days before being caught, completely insane. Now Riot didn't surfer a data breach, and even if they did all that would happen is they would be finned, however they did in fact send your data to the FBI illegally, that information would be your IP. Now those of you that thing Riots term of service and privacy policy allowed them to do this, no that's just wrong. Article Vi of the constitution states has the Supreme law of the land clause, what this means is that the constitution is the supreme law of the land, however it also states that Federal law triumphs state law and for sure business "policy". Now you may argue that Riot is a private business there fore they can do what ever they want since it is their policy and you signed it, that's wrong. In Article I of the U.S constitution the Commerce Clause is written. TLDR is the commerce clause basically says that all businesses that deal with interstate commerce are subject to government regulation. And it can not be argued that Riot does not engage in interstate commerce. Thus Riot has to follow federal regulation. Now the fact is riot sent his IP along with the chat logs to the FBI, the FBI did not request them. If the FBI has requested them this would be a whole new story since the FBI has legal right, which is fucked up, to request and obtain pretty much any information if they deem it a "threat" does not even have the a true threat. For the FBI to have requested the information that would mean the FBI has access to all chat logs which is just wrong, they don;t. Nor would they spend the time going through them to find "threats". Now that it has been established that Riot sent his information, the question is did Riot have the right to do so. No, they didn't. If I were you, OP, I would go to the media about this. Any new agency would love to have this as a story, now if you're uncomfortable with that I understand, but hell this is fucked up in all ways.
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