Rioter Comments
: Who could possibly have the energy to hardcore rage still?
I love when someone's raging @ me or telling me what to do all game and I mute them. Can still see their champ stop moving while they type crap that I'm not seeing/reading. What turds.
l MrD l (NA)
: I feel like toxic people just like to rage about anything
Agreed my friend. Had a guy raging on me cuz {{champion:29}} didn't stop the {{champion:23}} from taking out inhib while the rest of the team did some shit mid(not pushing and not fighting, not that it matters when our inhibs going down) totally insane
: > [{quoted}](name=Forge God Ornn,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ebVMTwzp,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-12T02:03:55.225+0000) > > Is that how we do it to catch these types of assholes? No, they just remind you "the best way to report is in the end of game lobby." Edit: Look you can downvote and say something about "toxic" to yourself, but that won't change the fact the guys making death threats nor the last 4 guys who sold all their items in exchange for mobi boots and 8 deaths that they, despite comforting assurances from all the support agents that it is "unacceptable" and "they will personally look into it", every one of them kept playing without interruption.
> [{quoted}](name=Sona Ping,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ebVMTwzp,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2019-07-12T04:04:31.644+0000) > > No, they just remind you "the best way to report is in the end of game lobby." I reported a player for trolling in pre-game lobby and they thanked me for the report and pointed out that end of game lobby reporting wasn't an option considering i was basically forced to dodge. They told me I won't get a notification but they will be looking into it. I simply sent them a screenshot of the lobby with the troll's chat. The player said he was going to troll because he got filled as support and is on a losing streak anyway. Player then chose Jax as support.
LeoiJw (NA)
: Hey Riot, why isn't there a"Select #" option for redeeming tokens? Why the unnecessary repetition?
Turning 10 extra tokens into BE... You convert 1 token to a 10 BE token(2 clicks), which you have to open(2 clicks)... 40 clicks and scrolling to make 100 BE is a huge waste of time.
OoAgentP (NA)
: Prestige Points to craft Gem Stones
Considering I still only have 6 Gemstones.... I'm all for it
: The only way the game could become less toxic would be to revamp the entire ranking system so that you are not punished for having bad/outclassed teammates.
> [{quoted}](name=KVbqbFsC8e,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5fhHwER5,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-07-11T00:05:38.072+0000) > > The only way the game could become less toxic would be to revamp the entire ranking system so that you are not punished for having bad/outclassed teammates. I'm no math wiz or game-balancing guru but couldn't they just take a player's post-game stats and find the average of them. Then, take that average and add or subtract points based on the averages of the other players in the game? Add additional points if you get the W
: when you main {{champion:26}} but then you also somewhat main {{champion:202}} you would think it evens it out, but no, it doesnt. - . I am still bitter. edit: I missed that op was mainly focused on viability which is why I mentioned Zilean. With that in mind, it´s true that while being completely forgotten by riot my main is still at least playable.
> [{quoted}](name=Dorans Pants,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ThssZX5E,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-11T00:14:13.291+0000) > > when you main {{champion:26}} > but then you also somewhat main {{champion:202}} > > you would think it evens it out, but no, it doesnt. > - > . > I am still bitter. DERRRRPPPP those 2 champs are fine bro
Rioter Comments
: I don't like Morgana as much as the next person. My suggestion is: find someone - cough - willing to duo?
I would love a good mid lane duo partner. My main thing is trying to get the most-likely carry fed. But sometimes there just isn't anyone on my team that's capable...
Tyránt (NA)
: Why are you so focused on damage? maybe thats why youre stuck?
Damage to objectives and turrets is always high priority for me. I took the most damage and still was 2nd in least deaths (i think ahri was 2-5-5). I'm pointing out the damage cuz I did almost as much as the ADC and APC combined. Darius was blaming me for doing nothing while I was 3-1 and he was 0-5 while perma-pushing vs Irelia. It just seems like everyone in Bronze is completely unaware of there being an enemy jungler and so they perma-push. When they get ganked it's everyone else's fault but their own but they inevitably blame each other or me. I used to get Silver 1 at the end of every season after hitting promos like 5 times but now it seems like I can't even get out of a bronze division.
Rioter Comments
Thilmer (EUW)
: We really need to tone down the randomness level if Riot wants to make this a ranked mode
I agree. I've had a total of 3 items after the first round while someone else claimed to of had only 1. Huge advantage. Also, what frequently dictates the winner is who RNG rolls the champ they are beefing up(completely out of player's control). You can use 100% of your gold on refreshing your shop and still not get the champ you're looking for.
Rioter Comments
: There are quite a few non-ultimate Rs, though. Like reasonably it makes no sense for Udyr's R to break his W, nor does that make any sense for Karma's R-enhanced abilities since it's so low cooldown.
I didn't mean all R's break W. Just projectile-type Rs(not including AAs). I guess what might make more sense is a damage threshold on his W. If windwall is hit with X amount of damage, it breaks.
Nhika (NA)
: Here's why Riot puts level 30's into mid silver and low gold.
Agreed! If they wanted people to stick to one account, they'd make them pay for the account.
MrHaZeYo (NA)
: Or should Maph hitting the windwall destroy the windwall?
This actually sounds pretty reasonable. An R removes a single instance of a W
: Is this game really about CARRYING or is it about if your team WANTS to be CARRIED?
From my experience, there are a lot of players that are more concerned with how THEY are playing and less about the big W. I main Jungle and what often happens is, for example: Jungler is getting Top and Mid kills and both are winning lane, Bot is continually pushing and getting ganked. Instead of checking the scores of their teammates and actually looking at the other lanes, they type "where's our jungler?!?"; completely ignoring the fact that their teammates are kicking the enemy's ass. (This happens in different variations, usually Top or Bot because Jungle naturally tries to keep Mid in check or enemy will easily invade) These are the players in the game that would rather be 10-0-0 at the end of a LOSS, than 0-0-10 at the end of a WIN. I wonder if requiring a WIN for an S would help...?
Antenora (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=sssaucyboi,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rRATHXEs,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-22T00:09:32.478+0000) > > He is absolutely UNKILLABLE late game. The big ass shield is so stupid. {{champion:11}} {{champion:10}} {{champion:114}} {{champion:67}} {{champion:110}} {{champion:96}} should have no issues killing a late game kench.
I enjoy having a kench on my team. Good kench grabs people and spits them out in front of us to finish off. Does kench win by himself? No. Can kench be a great asset? Yes.
: Then that's your fault for playing solo on Flex, if you cant handle going against premades of 3 or 5 play Solo/DuoQ and everything solved You choose to play alone on a mode with premades, your entire fault you have only yourself to blame
: > Arrogant trash-talking jerks who start preening and crowing about their success in /all In just this month alone, I've had only like 5 or so ranked matches where people from both team didn't do that.
That tells us nothing lol. How many games DID they do that? How many games did you play total? If you only played 6 games then that's pretty high.
: At least you are getting players near your rank. As a bronze 1 im getting put against golds. Yes i know you people are going to say "gold isnt even that good" like ive heard millions of times. But every other mode that isnt solo queue is littered with plats and diamonds. Tri queue in flex 5s as a B1, S4 and S4 and my two randoms are b4 and the enemy team is one D2, P3, P4 G5 and G3. In what universe is that a fair game?
"matchmaking is working as intended", "everyone on your team has high MMR", "you need to be better than your team to move up". I agree with you but this is generally the response. Very silly.
KingMack (NA)
: Yeah I've been a jungle main for about 3-4 years now and the jungle has went from an actual role that had little guidance or rules to a role that is subpar to support. Junglers are just whipping boys, now. How dare I farm my jungle rather than camp your lane and spoon feed you kills? Fuck me for not making it a 2v1 in your lane, right? I've legit had players tell me that it was the jungler's responsibility to win lanes. How on earth does that make sense? Regardless, I started fullmuting about a year ago and steady climbed. I'm P2 now and will hopefully be Diamond by end of the season if I feel like playing more ranked. I haven't been in the mood lately. I enjoy playing objective oriented junglers that are good at counterjungling and farming. I love Yi, Jax, Udyr, etc. I hate the Hecarim/Reksai/Jarvan perma gank meta. I still do well, though. I have a 70% winrate on Yi out of about 70 games. I don't know why Riot continues to permanently nerf the jungle. Just get rid of the role and make summoner's rift 4v4, or even 3v3. It's obvious Riot doesn't appreciate the role and doesn't know how to handle it. May as well just get rid of it.
Same bro. Some people seriously think it's the junglers job to win lane FOR them and for you to somehow prevent them from feeding.
: > [{quoted}](name=I memba balance ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HFZQ3ERX,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-18T00:35:41.773+0000) > > No. Because why should other champions that are in a healthy spot, also suffer indirect nerfs because of that abomination? To be fair black cleaver is an unhealthy item and should be changed or removed as should spear of shojin. Imo the problem with riven is that her cooldowns are incredibly short and she has no mana so she can spam abilities and not have to worry.
What if they made her use mana and made each subsequent Q cost more mana (ie. 10, 20, 30)? I'm not a math wiz by any means, just throwing this out there.
: You know what? I can live with many of the balance decisions your staff makes.
I've noticed twitches W has a center-point that acts like a tiny trundle pillar and fucks with pathing(idk if that's intentional but it makes no sense to me that a stinky aoe has an invisible block in the middle). I use it to get a few extra shots on the chubby creeps (ie. toad, blue, red)
: If your teammates are taking all these camps from you all in one rotation, while they are taking the camps you should be walking directly to a lane and taking cs. Too often ill just see junglers try to run to camps that laners are already taking and waste time trying to contest them. Just run to a lane and take cs, dont waste time.
This is generally what I do when. I had a game the other day where I was {{champion:29}} and had a {{champion:91}} arrive to my red at the same time as me. I assumed he was going to allow me to get it (cuz hello? I'm {{champion:29}} ), but he just straight-up took it. So I went directly to his lane and took the wave. He of-course threw a hissy-fit
: > [{quoted}](name=knobblez,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=E6A4yzGh,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-17T03:57:57.748+0000) > > i cant reveal my source. gotta have a friend in the biz to make things happen It's probably your dad who works at Rito
> [{quoted}](name=ThisName1sDumb,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=E6A4yzGh,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-17T04:25:08.469+0000) > > It's probably your dad who works at Rito my uncle Don
: what riot friend did you call to give them a 2 week vaca (don't get me mods it's a joke Q_Q)
> [{quoted}](name=OtakuBurrito,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=E6A4yzGh,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-17T03:25:59.617+0000) > > what riot friend did you call to give them a 2 week vaca (don't get me mods it's a joke Q_Q) i cant reveal my source. gotta have a friend in the biz to make things happen
Rioter Comments
: Then can taxing my wave for doing nothing but sitting in bush and soaking xp be reportable too? Meanwhile jg's miss half the cs and no one even gets the gold anyway trying to be slick and aoeing.
Yup. Works both ways brother. Junglers shouldn't be taxing unless you want them to stick around for more than just a gank. I don't tax just for a failed gank. I will admit if I'm like 10xp from a level I might get close enough to get that quick level-up so that I clear my next camp quicker, but I think that's pretty reasonable.
Rockman (NA)
: "Mom can I make a post?"
I love this and don't know why. It's so silly
: >Taking junglers camps should be a reportable offense. It's like trolling your jungler Watch any pro play game or any high elo game, they literally do this all time on midgame-lategame Not taking the jng camps as a laner isn't a strict rule just as not farming a lane as a jungler isn't a strict rule
So it's chill for the jungler to lose over half their camps @ 6-8 minutes? I'm fully aware of giving adc the red buff when we are gonna start team fighting, or mid laner the blue buff when their gonna start roaming, but when it's clearly still laning phase and I'm losing all my camps, it's detrimental. All I'm saying is there needs to be more awareness of what the jungler needs to make a difference. A lot of times they take red and use it just cuz it sounds nice and not to actually secure kills (which I'm sure is what pro-play uses it for). Maybe it's cuz I'm with bronze and silvers
: I am silver 2 trash. Why in the heck am I always against high golds, plats, and sometimes diamond?
Yeah I don't understand how throwing a random amounts of DIFFERENT ranks together is supposed to be fair. Just make them play against their own division. Simple. If they are playing at a silver 3 level, they will get their quickly because they will burn thru the bronze. But when you take bronze 3s that play at a silver 3 level and force them to fight against silvers, it just makes it harder for them to get to their own skill-level and as a result you are ruining the game for those bronze level players. The current MMR system might work for 1v1 type games but for this game it's just a total coin-flip.
: I feel "turret humping" a good term for not making plays or roaming/helping the jungler... Or even warding.... It just sounds like someone mindlessly shoving the wave without vision and without any plans on how to push that advantage. And if they are at 40-50% while the enemy is full, then they took A LOT of poke to shove.
Exactly. I see this all the time too. The people that do this just disregard their HP and the enemies damage and just assume 3 champs vs 2 champs always wins. It's all lanes too. They push super hard and then get ganked while they have no vision and are down a level or 2. Then when they get ganked and it's everyone else's fault but their own. There's no self-analysis or critical-thinking, just straight to angry WTF.
Rioter Comments
vimaid (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=SuicidePlank,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=08NAN5Yl,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-03T04:19:49.470+0000) > > Just mute these peoples. > You can't make them stop blaming you and every further discussion is pointless. I did mute her after I responded but your right I really shoulda just muted her right away.
> [{quoted}](name=vimaid,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=08NAN5Yl,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-03T04:20:29.608+0000) > > I did mute her after I responded but your right I really shoulda just muted her right away. I've had players blame me for their feeding. I've told them that it's not my job to win the lane for them or to keep them from feeding but to help them capitalize when we can. They sometimes respond with 'yes it is your job to win my lane' or 'I'm feeding because I can't win against them'. Nuff said. I agree with you.
Zac x Me (NA)
: It's worse when you as Silver 4 have to play against Plat 3 and 4's, while you can't even queue up with them.
> [{quoted}](name=Zac x Me,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=031Hd0po,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-05-25T18:11:40.889+0000) > > It's worse when you as Silver 4 have to play against Plat 3 and 4's, while you can't even queue up with them. So a SILVER can queue with a GOLD which allows them to face PLAT which might be queuing with GOLD. Resulting in SILVER vs PLAT I think people playing champs they have never played before ruins ranked games. I just played a game where my top and mid were brand new to their champ. Both fed insanely hard (Yas was 0-6 in 15 minutes, same for Urgot)
: I think it's faulty reasoning to assume that people are getting bent out of shape about it. I very calmly report people all the time. When you're playing with your friends and you want to meme, whatever. But it's not cool to inflame people who may already be frustrated at the tough game they just had. It doesn't mean I'm losing my shit over it. I just think people should be nice in an environment that we all know can be frustrating at times.
you report people for saying 'ggez'? for real?
: And yet i had the highest CS in the game
in the game doesn't decide the S+, it's the other morde players in other games
: Leauge games take something like 30 minutes from hitting the queue up button to actually seeing the end-game lobby. Some people only have time for maybe 1 or 2 games every couple of days. If they were attempting to relax only to have their precious little free time wasted on playing out a doomed match just to see "gg ez" at the end, wouldn't find condescending to them by calling their frustration a 'hissy-fit' and suggesting that they need 'thicker skin' to be appropriate. Isn't like they're sitting right across from you and can know through your tone and body language that you're just joshing around rather than being a sore winner.
it's a joke. if the person gets so worked up that they can't put 2+2 together then they prob shouldn't be playing. i don't like when people just throw out the 'its a game' card but straight-up this applies here more than ever. people say 'ggez' in tons of other games more-often when it clearly wasn't. i still get a giggle out of it when the enemy team is hacking and they say 'ggez' at the end(@me) because i know they didn't really work for it. don't let small words influence your emotions. skin it
: League of Legends for Beginners (A Guide to Top Lane)
Why am i down-voted? I was just asking to know. Yikes.
: HOW IS THIS NOT AN S. Seriously Riot
your farm weak bro. 27 min and its not even 200. thats my guess
: I think it's faulty reasoning to assume that people are getting bent out of shape about it. I very calmly report people all the time. When you're playing with your friends and you want to meme, whatever. But it's not cool to inflame people who may already be frustrated at the tough game they just had. It doesn't mean I'm losing my shit over it. I just think people should be nice in an environment that we all know can be frustrating at times.
i guess i have fun while playing games(even when i'm outnumbered) and expect others are as-well. my bad
: > [{quoted}](name=Kazekiba,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pd1b0BJg,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-05-25T00:59:22.023+0000) > > Trynds ult is as easy as dropping ignite a few seconds after he ults. Guaantee kill unless he buys AP and heals through GW more than ignites last few ticks can take. He will ALWAYS die to an ignite tick if he dosen't heal unless it was cast 2+ levels below his. > > But really, Trynd isn't abusable in high elo and isnt a flashy teamfight monster so theres no reason to gut his ultimate. > If anything it deserves a little buff like CD ticking down faster when at low HP or while [not] around enemy champions etc like Warwick's W. First off, yes, you can ignite him and get a kill after the fact. That's basic _Fighting Tryndamere 101_. It does mean that you can only hope to fight him if a summoner spell is up though, and it seems to me like if you need a summoner spell for every fight then the fight is unbalanced in a bad way. Secondly, "_But really, Trynd isn't abusable in high elo and isnt a flashy teamfight monster so theres no reason to gut his ultimate._" Oof. That is definitely a sign of the times. We're all so busy complaining about the impact LCS and other pro play has had on the game we're forgetting that there's other kinds of toxicity in the game. Not even gonna touch on the "we should balance for the top 5% of the playerbase" part.
CC stops Tryndamere. Yes, if he gets ahead you're gonna need more than one person to take him out (which goes for a lot of champs). You don't need a summoners spell but it certainly helps. If you have very little or no cc on your team than yes, he's probably gonna kick your asses. Fiddle is a great asset vs trynd is fear and silence when he's getting low, j4 is never good to see, anyone who kites well, jax can kick his ass, etc. CC ---> make him ult ---> CC again (yes that's usually two people)
: League of Legends for Beginners (A Guide to Top Lane)
: You're not helping League at all with that attitude.
i mean i say that too(as a joke cuz clearly they were outnumbered). Usually they get it and respond with a 'lol'. anyone who's throwing a hissy-fit over that needs to relax... imo. what would help league players is them growing some skin and not putting so much value into each-others opinion. instead of getting all worked up and arguing with someone, just move-on. #lifelessons
: When blitzcrank grabs you, but you are tilt-proof
: >Yes, and I'm sure you've never called anyone a bitch that isn't a female dog, referred to anything as girly when it exhibits no female qualities, etc. etc. Bitch and bro are quite literally two different things entirely. Literally no one calls a dog a bitch unless this is suddenly a century in the past? >That's the wonderful thing about language -- it evolves, and gets used outside of its normal bounds. But since you have a specific agenda in mind, you default everything to the definition that suits your desire to vomit your agenda whenever you get an opportunity. And that's just it! There is no agenda i was just questioning why the default term was that i am male! It's really fucking hilarious how absolutely butthurt guys get that i even wonder why. God forbid i, a woman ever question why you, a male, is defaulting me to a guy. I can GUARANTEE him saying that wasnt a gender neutral thing, i would put MONEY on it. The thing is, when im at work. Working that shitty 9-5, not one person has ever called me bro. I live in california, somewhere im sure bro and dude are very popular. So no frankly bro isnt companion or good friend. Bro is brother. Simple Homie- gender neutral Homeboy- Friend that is boy Homegirl- Friend that is girl. Bro is to male . it means brother. Thats where the whole brother from another mother got coined. So fucking tired of people trying to defend it. Literally its so fucking easy to be like "mb " and then carry on Edit- I also wanted to point out, i have two brothers and two sisters. Literally no one has ever called me bro in person. I get called ading (little sister in tagalog because thats my family) or sister or any variation of that but not one time, has anyone in my immediate family, my external family, friends none of them have called me bro. I am very active in discord and also dont get called bro when i talk on calls. It's so easy to chalk it up to him not knowing that im a girl plain and simple and not mass downvoting me because i ASKED why. Like holy fuck
I call my roommates cat a bitch all the time... Does that count? I also call her bro... I also call my fridge bro from time to time(ie. I open it up and see something delicious - "ah hell yeah bro, hookin it up with the good-good!"). I call females bro all the time. You're just over-sensitive bro. If you wanna call me sis I don't really care. Just becuz they don't call females bro in the philippines or on discord, doesn't mean it's strange here in US. There are a lot more people than just those two sources. Relax BRO!!!!!
: > [{quoted}](name=CowardlyRestart,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=RcXepcWs,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-05-24T21:18:44.526+0000) > > I logged in for the first time in like 3 years to upvote this - no idea why it was downvoted at all. This is an exact description of jungling. The reality is that junglers are 2nd support and deserve the same respect you'd give to your chad Sona. > > Jungle is the scapegoat for any lane that loses so they can feel a little more justified for simply losing lane. > > You're allowed to lose, everyone should work more to stop blaming other players - especially Junglers since they have the entire map they are trying to help out while not handicapping themselves by missing farm / exp. It's downvoted by the exact kind of people he's calling out, the ones who expect the jungler to be their fucking lane partner 24/7 while smiting every objective, never taking their farm, allowing them to take the jg farm, and not falling behind or dying at all.
> [{quoted}](name=AetherArising,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=RcXepcWs,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-05-25T03:58:00.066+0000) > > It's downvoted by the exact kind of people he's calling out, the ones who expect the jungler to be their fucking lane partner 24/7 while smiting every objective, never taking their farm, allowing them to take the jg farm, and not falling behind or dying at all. And since so many players assume a loss and focus more on blaming the jungler for the loss instead of actually winning; if you get counter-picked as a jungler, you should just dodge.
: > [{quoted}](name=knobblez,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1I9P1JE3,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-05-19T04:59:52.332+0000) > > Amen. > > It's actually pretty simple: > > In order to climb, you need to carry your team. If you DO successfully carry your team, your MMR goes up, so you'll play against tougher enemies AND you will be given a shittier team. If you successfully carry your shittier team, your MMR will go up again, so you'll play against even tougher enemies, you will then be given an even shittier team, etc. > > This is just my understanding as I've seen it explained a couple times. This also seems to be the case from my experience. Ok so here's my problem with riot though...they have all these angry people and I know they do because I know a lot of angry people. In fact I've known people to quit playing ranked because they were confused on how it worked and couldn't figure it out. Riot should tell us so that they don't LOSE even more players because it's honestly so confusing and so frustrating to go OH HEY IM LOSING MORE LP BECAUSE WHY? the confusion makes the game more frustrating and so much less enjoyable in my opinion.
> [{quoted}](name=MoJoegaming,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1I9P1JE3,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-21T17:02:00.121+0000) > > Ok so here's my problem with riot though...they have all these angry people and I know they do because I know a lot of angry people. In fact I've known people to quit playing ranked because they were confused on how it worked and couldn't figure it out. Riot should tell us so that they don't LOSE even more players because it's honestly so confusing and so frustrating to go OH HEY IM LOSING MORE LP BECAUSE WHY? the confusion makes the game more frustrating and so much less enjoyable in my opinion. I got a theory for why silver rank is crazy. I think what makes the game confusing and less enjoyable is the fact that it's Free-To-Play. This allows players to create tons of accounts which allows any rank(below gold) to intermingle with any other (below gold)rank(#placements). I'm not saying there's a huge difference between iron and bronze or bronze and silver but there IS a difference and that line is getting very easily blurred. Someone plays their placements and places IRON or BRONZE, so they make a new account and do placements again, and again, and again. All while playing at IRON or BRONZE level. You get a couple 100k doing this and the game becomes basically a coin-toss for placements. Those that get lucky end up in the wrong rank(aka silver since you're limited based on previous placements). This makes climbing out of silver a big carry-fest. Just a theory.
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