: > [{quoted}](name=kratus,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=E5nBhfon,comment-id=00000000000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2018-03-28T21:09:47.525+0000) > > You are not perma banned after that actually, you serve time until you can get it back In my area you don't, the fact is you got perma banned for breaking the rules you want a 2nd chance and personally you making a NEW account was your second chance.
> [{quoted}](name=AttackOnTeemos,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=E5nBhfon,comment-id=000000000000000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2018-03-28T21:13:01.822+0000) > > In my area you don't, the fact is you got perma banned for breaking the rules you want a 2nd chance and personally you making a NEW account was your second chance. Like I told the other guy, I am not convinced and you guys (majority) agree with each other, so I'm not a fit for this community, but thank you for taking the time to respond and have a great day.
Audhulma (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=kratus,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=E5nBhfon,comment-id=000000000000000000020000,timestamp=2018-03-28T21:08:04.915+0000) > > I have one more thing to argue, years ago this game was barely playable for people in the East Coast, I was in Miami at the time, every single person there played with a ping of 150 and 120 at best. A lot of more advantage to other people who lived in west coast. Now I kept giving the game chances regardless, because I wanted the game to improve and I supported it. How come the game failed me years ago by being unplayable and I gave it chances still waiting years for the server and now the game can't give me one chance for because I scripted? That has nothing to do with anything, certainly nothing to do with your account getting banned.
> [{quoted}](name=Audhulma,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=E5nBhfon,comment-id=0000000000000000000200000000,timestamp=2018-03-28T21:09:05.690+0000) > > That has nothing to do with anything, certainly nothing to do with your account getting banned. I mean I guess we can't come to an understanding, I'm not convinced that I should be removed from the game. But clearly you guys are the majority and you know how they say "if you argue with too many people maybe you're what's wrong". So I'm not a fit for the community, thanks for taking the time to argue though.
: > [{quoted}](name=kratus,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=E5nBhfon,comment-id=000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2018-03-28T20:59:29.886+0000) > > That's not the issue at all, I make more than the average amount, I don't mind investing in the game, I just want to see if the game would give me a chance too. In fact, I wouldn't mind having all my skins removed, I just would like to keep my ip which I spent thousands of hours on and champions which I got through playing not buying. I understand that but at the same time you are talking about DIGITAL commitment. Let me break this down better. If Riot put five games accounts and named them all your screen name and put the exactly same thing on all of them would you be able to tell them apart? You have an attachment to digital items you can't hold in your hand. The VIOLATION you did was perma ban no If/ands/exceptions. Think of it like this: If I get caught speeding in a car, I get a speeding ticket = Slap on the wrist/Fine If I get caught in a car speeding and drunk, I get ticket and a trip to jail and license suspension=Perma Ban on driving. You did the Drunk Driving Part online.
> [{quoted}](name=AttackOnTeemos,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=E5nBhfon,comment-id=0000000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2018-03-28T21:06:02.229+0000) > > I understand that but at the same time you are talking about DIGITAL commitment. Let me break this down better. > > If Riot put five games accounts and named them all your screen name and put the exactly same thing on all of them would you be able to tell them apart? You have an attachment to digital items you can't hold in your hand. The VIOLATION you did was perma ban no If/ands/exceptions. > > Think of it like this: If I get caught speeding in a car, I get a speeding ticket = Slap on the wrist/Fine > If I get caught in a car speeding and drunk, I get ticket and a trip to jail and license suspension=Perma Ban on driving. > > You did the Drunk Driving Part online. You are not perma banned after that actually, you serve time until you can get it back
Audhulma (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=kratus,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=E5nBhfon,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2018-03-28T20:48:39.321+0000) > > What if I argued I was naive and young, didn't have the mature mentality you do that I have now too > > I mean in a lot of sports steroids lead to suspension, but not a permanent ban. In this case a "permanent" ban would have been an ID ban. Consider the account ban you have now to being the same as getting dropped by your old team for steroid abuse, and they have decided they'll never pick you back up. You can still go with a different team now, just not the old one.
> [{quoted}](name=Audhulma,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=E5nBhfon,comment-id=00000000000000000002,timestamp=2018-03-28T21:04:15.645+0000) > > In this case a "permanent" ban would have been an ID ban. Consider the account ban you have now to being the same as getting dropped by your old team, and they have decided they'll never pick you back up. You can still go with a different team now, just not the old one. I have one more thing to argue, years ago this game was barely playable for people in the East Coast, I was in Miami at the time, every single person there played with a ping of 150 and 120 at best. A lot of more advantage to other people who lived in west coast. Now I kept giving the game chances regardless, because I wanted the game to improve and I supported it. How come the game failed me years ago by being unplayable and I gave it chances still waiting years for the server and now the game can't give me one chance for because I scripted?
: > [{quoted}](name=kratus,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=E5nBhfon,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2018-03-28T20:48:39.321+0000) > > What if I argued I was naive and young, didn't have the mature mentality you do that I have now too > > I mean in a lot of sports steroids lead to suspension, but not a permanent ban. If that's the argument I would then ask why haven't you matured enough to understand a breach in contract is still a violation. The Sports logic was a bad one because even in a suspension the person loses a great amount of creditability. Two: You said you were banned a "YEAR" ago. Naïve and "young" but yet has access to thousands of cash to spend on a video game I still question. I really don't see much of an improvement from that time to improve. Hate to be realistic but you are simply just a guy who really doesn't want to spend money on a bunch of skins again. About 30.00 gives you a bundle of champions to begin with.
> [{quoted}](name=AttackOnTeemos,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=E5nBhfon,comment-id=00000000000000000001,timestamp=2018-03-28T20:56:23.235+0000) > > If that's the argument I would then ask why haven't you matured enough to understand a breach in contract is still a violation. The Sports logic was a bad one because even in a suspension the person loses a great amount of creditability. > > Two: You said you were banned a "YEAR" ago. Naïve and "young" but yet has access to thousands of cash to spend on a video game I still question. I really don't see much of an improvement from that time to improve. Hate to be realistic but you are simply just a guy who really doesn't want to spend money on a bunch of skins again. About 30.00 gives you a bundle of champions to begin with. That's not the issue at all, I make more than the average amount, I don't mind investing in the game, I just want to see if the game would give me a chance too. In fact, I wouldn't mind having all my skins removed, I just would like to keep my ip which I spent thousands of hours on and champions which I got through playing not buying.
: > [{quoted}](name=kratus,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=E5nBhfon,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2018-03-28T20:48:39.321+0000) > > What if I argued I was naive and young, didn't have the mature mentality you do that I have now too > > I mean in a lot of sports steroids lead to suspension, but not a permanent ban. At the end of the suspension you dont get everything back. Youre still permitted to play league.
> [{quoted}](name=notFREEfood,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=E5nBhfon,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-03-28T20:51:26.256+0000) > > At the end of the suspension you dont get everything back. > > Youre still permitted to play league. I mean is there a point to playing a video game if is not in the account you invested time in? If I were to start from the beginning might as well do it in another game right?
: I give you points dedication. But chances are, Even if riot *Does* Respond, Most likely response is that they'll tell you to make a new account.
> [{quoted}](name=ZenithEevee,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=E5nBhfon,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-03-28T20:41:27.721+0000) > > I give you points dedication. > > But chances are, Even if riot *Does* Respond, Most likely response is that they'll tell you to make a new account. Don't you feel the punishment negates the good I have done for the game? Like progressively support it through the early stages by spreading word of it, investing in the development (money) and support the professional scene. Should all of that be ignored because I cheated for a couple of games (instantly got caught btw) and just declare me as a bad thing to the game?
Luralin (NA)
: Why would you cheat in the first place? Doesn't that defeat the whole point of playing?
> [{quoted}](name=Luralin,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=E5nBhfon,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-03-28T20:44:25.860+0000) > > Why would you cheat in the first place? Doesn't that defeat the whole point of playing? Young mentality, not a logical one I had at the time.
: > [{quoted}](name=kratus,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=E5nBhfon,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-03-28T20:39:44.070+0000) > > I get that, but I shouldn't be given a second chance? When it comes to video games, Hacking 3d party software used: NO The fact you can still make another account you should be thankful. Some game companies now or even investing in IP Blocking people. Now if you were just being verbal: I COULD see like a 70% chance of you being unbanned but the fact is you broke like the ultimate taboo.
> [{quoted}](name=AttackOnTeemos,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=E5nBhfon,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-03-28T20:43:15.248+0000) > > When it comes to video games, Hacking 3d party software used: NO > The fact you can still make another account you should be thankful. Some game companies now or even investing in IP Blocking people. Now if you were just being verbal: I COULD see like a 70% chance of you being unbanned but the fact is you broke like the ultimate taboo. What if I argued I was naive and young, didn't have the mature mentality you do that I have now too I mean in a lot of sports steroids lead to suspension, but not a permanent ban.
: Again: You could spend as much as you want play as long as you want, but that doesn't give you any thing else the other person does. They had rules, you accepted the terms to agreement when you made your account. You broke the rules, your account is terminated. side note: A year is more then enough time to level up a new account.
> [{quoted}](name=AttackOnTeemos,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=E5nBhfon,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-03-28T20:38:59.858+0000) > > Again: You could spend as much as you want play as long as you want, but that doesn't give you any thing else the other person does. They had rules, you accepted the terms to agreement when you made your account. You broke the rules, your account is terminated. I get that, but I shouldn't be given a second chance?
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: > [{quoted}](name=kratus,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=EeYYVFpf,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-06-18T23:05:27.154+0000) > > Even if it is, the fact that diamond smurfs and challenger players can manage to lose just a few games it shows is elo hell. Because a normal player like me is not going to play like them. League is a game of averages. Just because diamonds can lose in gold doesn't mean it's elo hell. It just means you're not good enough to pull above a 50% winrate.
> [{quoted}](name=Éve,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=EeYYVFpf,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-18T23:08:34.242+0000) > > League is a game of averages. Just because diamonds can lose in gold doesn't mean it's elo hell. It just means you're not good enough to pull above a 50% winrate. I have a smurf with 70% win rate on ezreal 50 games and 60% win rate on the account. About to be Gold, that's easy, my problem is I can't seem to carry the players in plat 0 lp who I described. It's just way too hard no matter how mechanically good, positive and the good ass calls I make. Those players give no fucks and they will ruin the game. They are literally in every single game, there's a 50% chance you or the enemy gets them. WHAT DO I DO?????
: Silver and Platinum are both way worse than Gold...
> Silver and Platinum are both way worse than Gold... I agree plat is worse, because you can actually carry the gold players who are about to get demoted. But you can't carry the plat 0 lp players who are about to get demoted because 1. they are EXTREMELY toxic, as in fuck you afk type of toxic. 2. high gold players who are about to get to plat be playing like a challenger player 100% try hard while you dealing with the low plat player and being a therapist
: Gold is so easy, even easier than silver because you don't get the occasional RNG bronze 5 new player on your team who ints 30 kills into wukong.
> Gold is so easy. Even if it is, the fact that diamond smurfs and challenger players can manage to lose just a few games it shows is elo hell. Because a normal player like me is not going to play like them.
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kratus (NA)
: wtf riot you piece of shit
fucking sent them a ticket raging like a mother fucker, that's clearly a fucking bug from the new client. someone else dodges and it counts as a lost for you. how the fuck is that even possible???? fucking shouldve left the old client, no one likes this new bugged fucking piece of shit
kratus (NA)
: wtf riot you piece of shit
you gotta be fucking kidding me
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: > [{quoted}](name=kratus,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=l8VGpHfb,comment-id=0000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-05-03T21:58:58.934+0000) > > Still, that's not what you would expect a team who utilizes a lvl 6 early power spike smartly. Then throw at something so dumb not even silver 3 players do Your right, because there's never been teams who have gone for an aggressive rushed end and gotten screwed right?
> Your right, because there's never been teams who have gone for an aggressive rushed end and gotten screwed right? Not as dumb as obvious as this one. You're ignorant and lack common sense
CLG ear (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=kratus,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=l8VGpHfb,comment-id=00000001000000000000,timestamp=2017-05-03T21:46:16.099+0000) > > The game is scripted, this team was playing godly and now they are bad. They dominated game 4 and literally went and threw it entirely. So obvious it hurts and it makes me cringe. I wouldn't say dominated but they would've won if not for that call to try to kill TSM in their base
> I wouldn't say dominated but they would've won if not for that call to try to kill TSM in their base Still, that's not what you would expect a team who utilizes a lvl 6 early power spike smartly. Then throw at something so dumb not even silver 3 players do
Jikker (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=kratus,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=l8VGpHfb,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2017-05-03T21:41:42.004+0000) > > That's where it is scripted dude, you can see them doing it on purpose and losing. Then suddenly this people who were mechanical af started playing like silver players. No way, riot screw up and showed the script. Uh, no, it's not scripted. GBM are just a B team and Bronze to the highest extreme. TSM is playing dumb and only win when its handed to them on a silver platter
> Uh, no, it's not scripted. GBM are just a B team and Bronze to the highest extreme. TSM is playing dumb and only win when its handed to them on a silver platter The game is scripted, this team was playing godly and now they are bad. They dominated game 4 and literally went and threw it entirely. So obvious it hurts and it makes me cringe.
Jikker (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=TurquoiseYoshi,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=l8VGpHfb,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-05-03T21:33:06.456+0000) > > We all know that TSM can only win series with scripted results so If you watched that game, you'll realize the only reason TSM won was because GBM threw hard as heck. If GBM had gotten Baron instead, TSM would be doing the walk of shame right now along with all their fans
> If you watched that game, you'll realize the only reason TSM won was because GBM threw hard as heck. If GBM had gotten Baron instead, TSM would be doing the walk of shame right now along with all their fans That's where it is scripted dude, you can see them doing it on purpose and losing. Then suddenly this people who were mechanical af started playing like silver players. No way, riot screw up and showed the script.
: We all know that TSM can only win series with scripted results so
> We all know that TSM can only win series with scripted results so dude, i honestly never believed this was scripted. but this has to be the biggest failure at making script seem real. you can clearly see the script. wtf
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kratus (NA)
: Ok boyz, time to climb
kratus (NA)
: Ok boyz, time to climb
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Supz (EUNE)
: ***
> Popular website https://wol.gg/stats/na/donaldjtahm/ does it for you. It probably just reads api of how many games you played and averages it. It should be pretty accurate. Holyyyyy, I have spent 2.4k hours!
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Broporo (NA)
: I looked over your account to see if I could find out what that reward might have been. It looks like recently you were able to get on our Universe page to get the Demacia Icon, so that notification may have been for that icon. I also saw that you were able to get some key fragments earlier today, so that notification may have been for a fragment instead. Let me know if either of those sounds right!
> I looked over your account to see if I could find out what that reward might have been. It looks like recently you were able to get on our Universe page to get the Demacia Icon, so that notification may have been for that icon. I also saw that you were able to get some key fragments earlier today, so that notification may have been for a fragment instead. > > Let me know if either of those sounds right! You're right, it was summoner icon. Thank you
Jikker (NA)
: Demacia Icon
> Demacia Icon why did i got it?
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: > [{quoted}](name=Mental Blitz,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=FPngww5w,comment-id=00080000,timestamp=2017-03-26T02:46:17.206+0000) > > The problem is that she said every position in the store is filled when a position was opened a few hours ago. The positions are still clearly there. Either way, cut your losses.
> Either way, cut your losses. I dunno man, I think I'm still going to ask a lawyer, because I can 100% confirm my story.
: Her silence was probably her facepalming. Just because theres an position saying its open online, doesn't mean that there still is. Cut your losses and search elsewhere.
> Her silence was probably her facepalming. Just because theres an position saying its open online, doesn't mean that there still is. > > > Cut your losses and search elsewhere. The problem is that she said every position in the store is filled when a position was opened a few hours ago. The positions are still clearly there.
: Macy's is hard core struggle bussing it right now, don't try to work for em, especially if their gonna pull the "its not you, its me" break up line like its some sort of relationship. they legit gave you the run around to dump you. shit sucks, but not much else to do but try to work for a business that won't drop you like yesterday's news. legally speaking... no, they are just assholes
> [{quoted}](name=CTElephant,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=FPngww5w,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2017-03-26T02:39:40.386+0000) > > Macy's is hard core struggle bussing it right now, don't try to work for em, especially if their gonna pull the "its not you, its me" break up line like its some sort of relationship. > > they legit gave you the run around to dump you. shit sucks, but not much else to do but try to work for a business that won't drop you like yesterday's news. > > legally speaking... no, they are just assholes Not even if I can prove my story?
: If there isn't anything in writing then I don't see a way you could make a case. He said she said probably won't cut it.
> [{quoted}](name=IAintDarius,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=FPngww5w,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-03-26T02:28:25.183+0000) > > If there isn't anything in writing then I don't see a way you could make a case. He said she said probably won't cut it. Oh and there's the recorded phone call where she confirmed that she knew the story
kratus (NA)
: Could I take legal actions against Macy's?
Let's say I can completely prove my story, can I do something with it?
: If there isn't anything in writing then I don't see a way you could make a case. He said she said probably won't cut it.
> [{quoted}](name=IAintDarius,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=FPngww5w,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-03-26T02:28:25.183+0000) > > If there isn't anything in writing then I don't see a way you could make a case. He said she said probably won't cut it. I mean there's camaras proving it and the written interview paper
: > [{quoted}](name=Mental Blitz,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=FPngww5w,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-03-26T02:21:46.280+0000) > > > But isn't that bad service? I have heard of people taking legal actions because employees say fuck you to a costumer. Honestly? You probably freaked them out during this whole fiasco, so they tried to ghost you. ie: they fucked up, but then during the process of trying to fix the fuck up you gave off a "wow this guy is actually fucking crazy, don't hire this guy" vibe. Trying to go higher up and contact more supervisors isn't gonna help you. You should have just taken the lower position the second time you got an actual interview, and THEN fixed it. (ie: get offered higher position cuz ur overqualified, say no, i want this other lower position and i would like to start tomorrow -> then later, fix it, maybe) Too late now tho.
> Honestly? You probably freaked them out during this whole fiasco, so they tried to ghost you. > > ie: they fucked up, but then during the process of trying to fix the fuck up you gave off a "wow this guy is actually fucking crazy, don't hire this guy" vibe. Trying to go higher up and contact more supervisors isn't gonna help you. You should have just taken the lower position the second time you got an actual interview, and THEN fixed it. (ie: get offered higher position cuz ur overqualified, say no, i want this other lower position and i would like to start tomorrow -> then later, fix it, maybe) > > Too late now tho. I didn't contact any higher up though, actually everyone I talked to was below his rank and I was completely nice about it. I was thinking if I could contact HR this Monday that I could get this fixed. Since HR its all about helping then company second.
: > [{quoted}](name=Mental Blitz,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=FPngww5w,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-03-26T02:21:46.280+0000) > > This is the most played game in the world, is bound to have a lot of people to express their opinion. Plus is general discussion, can discuss about anything. > > But isn't that bad service? I have heard of people taking legal actions because employees say fuck you to a costumer. Again, Not 100% Sure. If you were in a Union, there would PROBABLY be something you could work out. Worst comes to worst, if you got the money to waste (Assuming you're looking for a job, this is probably NOT the case) you could ask a lawyer.
> Again, Not 100% Sure. If you were in a Union, there would PROBABLY be something you could work out. > > Worst comes to worst, if you got the money to waste (Assuming you're looking for a job, this is probably NOT the case) you could ask a lawyer. There's lawyers that give you a first free consult. So I could ask them I guess.
: Do you have anything in writing? If not, I think you're SOL. That said, it sounds like this incident isn't over yet.
> Do you have anything in writing? If not, I think you're SOL. I have his personal card to prove that he did give it to me? Also, they have a paper of the questions that I was asked and everything that was conducted during the interview.
: 1: For fucks sakes. why does everyone go to this board with their problems. Like we are suppose to 100% Know this from experience. 2: As far as i know, You were never employed, therefore cant say anything about "Unrightfully fired", And you cant do anything just because you didnt get the job. Yes, time was wasted.. Buuuuuut, really cant do anything besides move on .
> 2: As far as i know, You were never employed, therefore cant say anything about "Unrightfully fired", And you cant do anything just because you didnt get the job. Yes, time was wasted.. Buuuuuut, really cant do anything besides move on . This is the most played game in the world, is bound to have a lot of people to express their opinion. Plus is general discussion, can discuss about anything. But isn't that bad service? I have heard of people taking legal actions because employees say fuck you to a costumer.
: > [{quoted}](name=Mental Blitz,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=FPngww5w,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2017-03-26T02:15:30.021+0000) > > Okay sorry, what is your opinion about what I should do? Legal matters aren't my forte, sorry. I just thought people who could help you might be more inclined to take the time and read it if it was presented a bit nicer.
> Legal matters aren't my forte, sorry. > > I just thought people who could help you might be more inclined to take the time and read it if it was presented a bit nicer. It's cool, I understand.
: > [{quoted}](name=Mental Blitz,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=FPngww5w,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-03-26T02:11:36.143+0000) > > No need to be rude, you can understand what I said, I didn't want to take the time to make it perfect for you. If you're looking for peoples' opinions, though, it's courteous to present your case in a manner that's easier on the eyes. Nobody likes having to digest an entire wall of text at once to get the gist.
> If you're looking for peoples' opinions, though, it's courteous to present your case in a manner that's easier on the eyes. > > Nobody likes having to digest an entire wall of text at once to get the gist. Okay sorry, what is your opinion about what I should do?
: Could you learn to use paragraphs first?
> Could you learn to use paragraphs first? No need to be rude, you can understand what I said, I didn't want to take the time to make it perfect for you.
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: > [{quoted}](name=Destaice,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=rholbGAy,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-03-18T05:11:40.370+0000) > > "But but but we need an adc for late game" > > So they can die two seconds in? to be fair a good adc with a good support is extremely hard to kill, ofc ap can be protected by support to while their cooldowns are coming up. i know ive won alot of ap ezreal bot games long as you dont super feed early you can dominate the lane with ap.
> to be fair a good adc with a good support is extremely hard to kill, ofc ap can be protected by support to while their cooldowns are coming up. i know ive won alot of ap ezreal bot games long as you dont super feed early you can dominate the lane with ap. That's the thing, getting a support that you will do good with is extremely rare. Just pick AP and burst someone down yourself.
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