: > [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3yqoae86,comment-id=000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-12T01:15:13.260+0000) > > Nobody has to “turn toxic” - think of how people age in real life. People who were 12 last year are playing League now (they’re 13 and it’s legal). Likewise, people who are toxic or getting older are leaving League (or being banned). > > Some of these new players will be toxic and be banned - but they’re balanced out by the millions of other new players who aren’t toxic. Crazy how this **MAGICAL** percentage of **PUNISHED** players never changes. It's almost like you're trying to prove the original point you started arguing against.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3yqoae86,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-12T01:49:03.675+0000) > > If you have 10 punished players out of 1000, the percent is 1%, correct? > > If you then have 500 more players join the game, and 5 more players get punished, what is the percentage? 15/1500 is still 1%, correct? 2 weeks, no response. Glad to see you finally learned your place.
rujitra (NA)
: No, it's what you've been saying. You still refuse to say how Riot should decide which "individual players" to help, given that there will always be conflict of opinion between players.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=0LXvhw5U,comment-id=0003000100000001000000010000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-12T15:07:56.383+0000) > > No, it's what you've been saying. > > You still refuse to say how Riot should decide which "individual players" to help, given that there will always be conflict of opinion between players. No, it isn't at all what he's been saying. Yes, all you do is troll the forums and twist words to skew statements to your own reality. How you still have a blue name, much less access to the boards, after spewing complete bullshit 24/7 astounds me.
: > [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3yqoae86,comment-id=000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-12T01:15:13.260+0000) > > Nobody has to “turn toxic” - think of how people age in real life. People who were 12 last year are playing League now (they’re 13 and it’s legal). Likewise, people who are toxic or getting older are leaving League (or being banned). > > Some of these new players will be toxic and be banned - but they’re balanced out by the millions of other new players who aren’t toxic. Crazy how this **MAGICAL** percentage of **PUNISHED** players never changes. It's almost like you're trying to prove the original point you started arguing against.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3yqoae86,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-12T01:49:03.675+0000) > > If you have 10 punished players out of 1000, the percent is 1%, correct? > > If you then have 500 more players join the game, and 5 more players get punished, what is the percentage? 15/1500 is still 1%, correct? Pretty sure you've missed the entire point of the statement: the percentage would drop if the punishment system worked and/or did anything.
rujitra (NA)
: Nobody has to “turn toxic” - think of how people age in real life. People who were 12 last year are playing League now (they’re 13 and it’s legal). Likewise, people who are toxic or getting older are leaving League (or being banned). Some of these new players will be toxic and be banned - but they’re balanced out by the millions of other new players who aren’t toxic.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3yqoae86,comment-id=000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-12T01:15:13.260+0000) > > Nobody has to “turn toxic” - think of how people age in real life. People who were 12 last year are playing League now (they’re 13 and it’s legal). Likewise, people who are toxic or getting older are leaving League (or being banned). > > Some of these new players will be toxic and be banned - but they’re balanced out by the millions of other new players who aren’t toxic. Crazy how this **MAGICAL** percentage of **PUNISHED** players never changes. It's almost like you're trying to prove the original point you started arguing against.
: > [{quoted}](name=kushinshin,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=BAbUYNsb,comment-id=000200000001,timestamp=2019-04-11T22:34:10.948+0000) > > He's a volunteer. Consider the quality that comes with it. No need to be disrespectful. I am merely trying to assist Heth. Also if you took the time to read the rest of thread, someone pointed out that if you are reported, key words will be pulled. So maybe try reading in context before making passive aggressive comments about people.
> [{quoted}](name=Rowanstar,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=BAbUYNsb,comment-id=0002000000010000,timestamp=2019-04-11T23:35:23.488+0000) > > No need to be disrespectful. I am merely trying to assist Heth. Also if you took the time to read the rest of thread, someone pointed out that if you are reported, key words will be pulled. So maybe try reading in context before making passive aggressive comments about people. I apologize for acting the same way your specialists do. I forget that only regular board members can be punished for it.
rujitra (NA)
: Or...... new people are getting punished just as much as old people leaving?
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3yqoae86,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-12T01:06:06.110+0000) > > Or...... new people are getting punished just as much as old people leaving? Players turning toxic at the same rate people leave the game, sounds incredibly likely. Yeah, you got it, 100% hit the nail on the head.
rujitra (NA)
: Because punished players is **PEOPLE**, not accounts.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3yqoae86,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-11T23:32:00.732+0000) > > Because punished players is **PEOPLE**, not accounts. To which, the number of **PEOPLE** still being punished isn't **DROPPING** therefore toxic players aren't **LEAVING** the game, they are just **MAKING** new accounts.
: Yeah, no. Riot has said that most of them don't create new accounts. And that they're not interested in finding ways to keep these people playing and spending money - they want them to stop playing. Punishments are much more harsh for new accounts, too.
> [{quoted}](name=GatekeeperTDS,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3yqoae86,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-11T22:27:26.785+0000) > > Yeah, no. Riot has said that most of them don't create new accounts. And that they're not interested in finding ways to keep these people playing and spending money - they want them to stop playing. Punishments are much more harsh for new accounts, too. Yeah, no. Riot says a lot of things. Crazy how the this magical percentage of punished players never changes.
: They did infinitely-escalating chat bans in the past. Those people found other ways to ruin games. Do you think someone who's that intent on ruining the game is going to change their ways because they can't chat? Communities need standards. The concept is simple - don't be a jerk and flame your teammates and you won't get punished. The **VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO PLAY THIS GAME** don't get punished AT ALL. Even fewer people get permanently banned. I forget what the exact percentage is, but Riot quoted it once. It's a tiny fraction of a single percent of people that get permanently banned. They're not able to be rehabilitated and for the sake of everyone else, it's best that they're shown the door.
> [{quoted}](name=GatekeeperTDS,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3yqoae86,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-11T22:21:54.463+0000) > >it's best that they're _forced to create a new account to increase revenue_. FTFY.
: > [{quoted}](name=kushinshin,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=MuJkOV8Y,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-08T19:11:51.954+0000) > > Simply because you stated "none of us want or tolerate a toxic, disrespectful community" > > So again, do you even play the game? I already answered you. Yes I play daily. And I STILL do not want a toxic community. Most people I play with seem decent, but I get an occasional unpleasant person and I just have to let it go. So yes I play this game daily. Should I repeat myself?
> [{quoted}](name=Rowanstar,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=MuJkOV8Y,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-08T21:23:04.691+0000) > > I already answered you. Yes I play daily. And I STILL do not want a toxic community. Most people I play with seem decent, but I get an occasional unpleasant person and I just have to let it go. So yes I play this game daily. Should I repeat myself? Please do, because you obviously haven't encountered this community.
: What in the world is happening with some of these posts that get up and/or downvoted 20 times in 30 seconds?
> [{quoted}](name=GatekeeperTDS,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=BAbUYNsb,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-11T21:51:12.824+0000) > > What in the world is happening with some of these posts that get up and/or downvoted 20 times in 30 seconds? Please remain on topic before the mods ban you.
: Encountering lots and lots of sexist and homophobic players. What happened???
https://www.polygon.com/2018/11/7/18070340/riot-games-gender-discrimination-lawsuit-class-action https://kotaku.com/current-and-former-employees-sue-riot-games-for-gender-1830262786 Their community is an embodiment of the company. The only toxicity they allow/protect is their own.
Saints18 (NA)
: The chat is a main part of the game to get on the same page with members of your team that want to try and try to have more fun than using a brand new cahmp that they dont know how to use in ranked. Its a very communicative and socailly interactive game. Fix a two way chat mute so we can type to the other players so toxic players cant report us for trying to win a game without thier trolling and grieving. Thanks....Yall have my email for anymore great ides to cut down reports and toxic banter in gameplay.YW
> [{quoted}](name=Saints18,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=bbsF44ee,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-04-11T20:38:17.618+0000) > > The chat is a main part of the game to get on the same page with members of your team that want to try and try to have more fun than using a brand new cahmp that they dont know how to use in ranked. Its a very communicative and socailly interactive game. Fix a two way chat mute so we can type to the other players so toxic players cant report us for trying to win a game without thier trolling and grieving. Thanks....Yall have my email for anymore great ides to cut down reports and toxic banter in gameplay.YW @Rujitra, i can't read the big words here can you please explain it more simply. Thx
YBaKunt (NA)
: Chat restricted again.
BuT oUr PuNiShMeNt SyStEm WoRkS.
Apollon FiV (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EKWfVXXN,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2019-04-10T23:26:20.220+0000) > > So.. because not everyone quits the game, Riot shouldn’t encourage *anyone* to? > > That’s like saying “because police don’t catch all the murderers/kidnappers/shoplifters/whatever they shouldn’t even punish the ones that they do catch”. you didnt catch my point. read again
> [{quoted}](name=Apollon FiV,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EKWfVXXN,comment-id=0000000000010000,timestamp=2019-04-10T23:28:53.996+0000) > > you didnt catch my point. read again You need to explain it more simply for him.
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=bluefire mark 2,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EKWfVXXN,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-04-10T22:48:21.151+0000) > > Honestly, most toxic people just get angry about it, make a new accoun anyway, or buy one, then take their anger out on more people. Riots perm banned quite a lot, but have you noticed the game getting any less toxic? I surely haven't. Which obviously means it isn't doing its job in some way. That's true but do you have a better idea?
> [{quoted}](name=Arcade Lulu,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EKWfVXXN,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2019-04-10T22:49:35.254+0000) > > That's true but do you have a better idea? Ban the safe spacers instead.
: *League* is not a court room. Riot has several times supported the idea that you can play what you want, as long as that thing is somewhat within reason. Stacking AP on Talon? No. But playing a champion you are not very good with, or playing a champion in a slightly off position? Yes. There is no obligation that you play only the thing that will be most effective. Not everyone will be okay with that, but they don't have to be. No decision made will please every member of the community.
> [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=z66scMxN,comment-id=0005000100000000,timestamp=2019-04-10T21:12:57.092+0000) > > *League* is not a court room. Riot has several times supported the idea that you can play what you want, as long as that thing is somewhat within reason. Stacking AP on Talon? No. But playing a champion you are not very good with, or playing a champion in a slightly off position? Yes. There is no obligation that you play only the thing that will be most effective. > > Not everyone will be okay with that, but they don't have to be. No decision made will please every member of the community. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsRaR3o5zSc https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/5cupmb/2_million_mastery_point_smite_support_singed/ https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/5cyde6/3_million_mastery_smite_support_singed_ama_and/ https://gyazo.com/5f2b6c748191b7aadefbc1ea13ae6d0e
rujitra (NA)
: Right... that’s the point. Just because it’s not illegal does not mean it’s not bad. Just because it’s illegal doesn’t mean it’s bad.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=MuJkOV8Y,comment-id=000500010001000100000000000000010000,timestamp=2019-04-08T19:31:36.330+0000) > > Right... that’s the point. Just because it’s not illegal does not mean it’s not bad. Just because it’s illegal doesn’t mean it’s bad. But that is not at all what you said.
rujitra (NA)
: You brought up the idea that “because it is a crime, it is worse than something that is not a crime”. That is a red herring.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=MuJkOV8Y,comment-id=0005000100010001000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-08T02:59:24.036+0000) > > You brought up the idea that “because it is a crime, it is worse than something that is not a crime”. That is a red herring. I mean, I haven't seen anyone in court for telling someone to stop feeding...
: > [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=MuJkOV8Y,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-04-08T01:00:41.969+0000) > > Why does theft matter in a world with cameras, buzzers that go off if you walk out of the store, serial numbers... etc? > > Because it's still wrong, and other people shouldn't have to burden themselves because you can't avoid doing wrong things. You're comparing an actual crime to internet shit talking though, at the end of the day someone saying you're bad on an internet game or dumb shouldn't be a bannable offense in my opinion but i guess I think differently than riot.
> [{quoted}](name=Wildstyle808,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=MuJkOV8Y,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-04-08T01:21:09.584+0000) > > You're comparing an actual crime to internet shit talking though, at the end of the day someone saying you're bad on an internet game or dumb shouldn't be a bannable offense in my opinion but i guess I think differently than riot. You have to remember that specialists and mods are volunteers. You think anyone (even the multi-billion dollar company Riot Games, that refuse to even invest in an actual support system) would pay these people?
: > [{quoted}](name=kushinshin,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=MuJkOV8Y,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-04-08T18:39:51.498+0000) > > Who is us? Do you even play the game? Yes I do. And why do you assume otherwise?
> [{quoted}](name=Rowanstar,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=MuJkOV8Y,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-04-08T18:54:33.192+0000) > > Yes I do. And why do you assume otherwise? Simply because you stated "none of us want or tolerate a toxic, disrespectful community" So again, do you even play the game?
: Say the reasons you dislike the current state of the game
Spidii (NA)
: Right, I guarantee that if someone came up and just started pissing on a riotors leg they would not be friendly or ignore it or keep their mouth shut in real life.
> [{quoted}](name=Spidii,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=WBhq1rL7,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-08T17:10:17.182+0000) > > Right, I guarantee that if someone came up and just started pissing on a riotors leg they would not be friendly or ignore it or keep their mouth shut in real life. Actually, given how most of them act online, they probably would keep their mouths shut for fear of getting their jaw broken.
: Because its against the rules and none of us want or tolerate a toxic, disrespectful community. Period. And neither should you.
> [{quoted}](name=Rowanstar,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=MuJkOV8Y,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-04-07T23:29:50.676+0000) > > Because its against the rules and none of us want or tolerate a toxic, disrespectful community. Period. And neither should you. Who is us? Do you even play the game?
: Low elo players (im guilty of this too) really need to stfu in games
Here's a rant for you: It's a fuckin video game, why are you tilting?
: My Day Thus Far
Riot and decency do not belong in the same sentence. ;D
: Fuck all your fuckin cancer champs
: Toxicity is a prevalent issue that plagues league worse than any other game. If you are knowingly a toxic player to the point that you know you have a history of it, and become perma banned... maybe league isn't the right game for you? "One person cannot win a match, but One person can loose the match."
> [{quoted}](name=DaoMuShin,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=7grdBFRL,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-04-07T02:32:51.732+0000) loose
: Lol, why do T1 fanboys always assume people who don't like him are jealous? I just think it's unfortunate that when someone goes to twitch to check out league of legends, one of the top viewed is going to be a raging manchild with serious impulse control issues. Guess that is just a symptom of I kind of wish league had a higher quality of community instead of people like this.
> [{quoted}](name=AnotherFeeder,realm=NA,application-id=GgNYATV4,discussion-id=lnAvQEy3,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-06T21:12:19.098+0000) > > Lol, why do T1 fanboys always assume people who don't like him are jealous? I just think it's unfortunate that when someone goes to twitch to check out league of legends, one of the top viewed is going to be a raging manchild with serious impulse control issues. Guess that is just a symptom of I kind of wish league had a higher quality of community instead of people like this. I'm not a huge fan other him actually, but seriously, why are you so invested in a video game in which you'll never prosper or benefit aside from recreation? People crave drama, have you not been alive the past 20 years to recognize that?
: GINORMOUS MEMBERS ONLY ON THIS FLEX SQUAD
i wondered if "ginormous members" alluded to "big dick" now i see your name is creamynutblast. confirmed my assumption ;D
Rioter Comments
: What is the basis for either of these assumptions? 0.o You have no idea how much I make.
> [{quoted}](name=AnotherFeeder,realm=NA,application-id=GgNYATV4,discussion-id=lnAvQEy3,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-04-06T11:03:20.291+0000) > > What is the basis for either of these assumptions? 0.o > > You have no idea how much I make. Your entire rant.
: "Assist me"
> [{quoted}](name=Dewott610,realm=NA,application-id=GgNYATV4,discussion-id=oicR9Aoq,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-04-05T11:53:00.665+0000) > > pantheon jg shoving the spear up my ass Kinky. ;D
: Kinda disgusting to me this guys the "Face of Draven"
Maybe you're a little too invested in a game, or maybe you are envious that he is making more money per month than you will in your life?
: EASY WAYS TO GET BANNED
Hey ya (NA)
: perma ban
Oh this thread is gold.
: > and how do you know that for certain you don't... They do know it for certain, because Riot has previously stated that they don't overturn punishments that weren't issued in error, and that punishments don't lose merit just because someone else broke the rules. > ...they just don't give a shit about their players just their money And how do you know _that_ for certain? Have you any evidence to support it?
> [{quoted}](name=Umbral Regent,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=eM9v3oV4,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2019-04-06T03:59:04.051+0000) > > They do know it for certain, because Riot has previously stated that they don't overturn punishments that weren't issued in error, and that punishments don't lose merit just because someone else broke the rules. > > And how do you know _that_ for certain? Have you any evidence to support it? Have you seen the community? ;D
Prandine (NA)
: Rioters have repeatedly said that they do read the boards. That doesn't automatically mean they have to implement every idea, nor does it mean they don't listen to the community if they don't implement certain ideas. I get how that can be frustrating but it's something not exclusive to LoL.
> [{quoted}](name=Prandine,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=qcsWEmHM,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-04-02T14:52:37.809+0000) nor does it mean they don't listen to the community Lol.
: For general verbal toxicity - y'know, flaming, negative attitude, etc. - the punishments are as follows (assuming a clean slate): - 10-game Chat Restriction - 25-game Chat Restriction - 14-day Account Suspension - Permanent Account Suspension For egregious verbal toxicity (usage of hate speech or encouraging self-harm - again, assuming a clean slate): - 14-day Account Suspension - Permanent Account Suspension For _extremely_ egregious verbal toxicity (death threats, not sure what else qualifies): - Permanent Account Suspension And then for Gameplay toxicity (trolling, intentionally feeding): - 14-day Account Suspension - Permanent Account Suspension
> [{quoted}](name=Umbral Regent,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=8KfQJP7Z,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-06T03:44:30.271+0000) > - 14-day Account Suspension > - Permanent Account Suspension Lol.
: It's not about feelings, but about respecting your opponents.
> [{quoted}](name=Schnuppi 0,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=gE6X6GyF,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-04-03T23:33:48.759+0000) > > It's not about feelings, but about respecting your opponents. If you consider this disrespectful, life is gonna slap you hard in the fkn face.
Rioter Comments
: "GG EZ" is bad sportsmanship and doesn't belong in a competitive environment. It's disrespectful towards your opponents no matter how hard you stomped them. Punishable or not, it still is toxic behaviour in the widest sense.
> [{quoted}](name=Schnuppi 0,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=gE6X6GyF,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-04-03T09:02:37.163+0000) > > "GG EZ" is bad sportsmanship and doesn't belong in a competitive environment. It's disrespectful towards your opponents no matter how hard you stomped them. > > Punishable or not, it still is toxic behaviour in the widest sense. You could just not get your feelings hurt over a video game.
: RIOT! DOES THIS REALLY DESERVE A 10-GAME CHAT RESTRICTION
You said bad words. Safe spacers of League don't appreciate.
Nasarie (NA)
: Wasn't there another post about being banned for banter then he posted his chat logs and he was insulting all his teammates, lmao. Well when you deny to post logs you are guilty, gg sir.
> [{quoted}](name=Nasarie,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=9FKKGJEN,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-03-25T01:29:43.678+0000) > > Wasn't there another post about being banned for banter then he posted his chat logs and he was insulting all his teammates, lmao. Well when you deny to post logs you are guilty, gg sir. And a friendly *fedora tip* to you sir.
Jo0o (NA)
: So that’s a “no” on the logs?
> [{quoted}](name=Jo0o,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=9FKKGJEN,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-03-24T22:34:37.100+0000) > > So that’s a “no” on the logs? Quoting you from your other posts, since you camp the forums, "get a hobby."
Jo0o (NA)
: Well golly gee, let’s take a ganderoo at them there chat logerinos!
> [{quoted}](name=Jo0o,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=9FKKGJEN,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-24T22:28:19.629+0000) > > Well golly gee, let’s take a ganderoo at them there chat logerinos! Well golly gee, let's be the classic white knight of Riot forums and defend the company with the worst reputation since Enron. Naw, I have nothing to prove to you. This is just a PSA to all those out there that use /all chat. ;)
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