: It's S8 bronze with almost 300 games.. press X to doubt. but that's not the matter here, the matter is you thinking that you should have some sort of trial because you spent money on esport skins
> [{quoted}](name=swastika mann,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LAnwEzch,comment-id=00060000000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2018-12-04T19:05:50.699+0000) > > It's S8 bronze with almost 300 games.. press X to doubt. but that's not the matter here, the matter is you thinking that you should have some sort of trial because you spent money on esport skins no buying the skin doesnt matter. its that i showed support for riot games. and the content that they offer. and what do you doubt? that this isnt a alt account?
: Maybe because you were super toxic, and blamed the Quinn Top game on your jungler? Just because you leashed doesn’t entitle you to a gank.
> [{quoted}](name=Deathhawk888,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LAnwEzch,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2018-12-04T19:02:49.423+0000) > > Maybe because you were super toxic, and blamed the Quinn Top game on your jungler? Just because you leashed doesn’t entitle you to a gank. just because you wanna start red doesn't mean i have to leash. but its nice to have help, and especially return the help given.
: You are splitting hairs. You got reported for at least 3 games out of 20, that's 15% of the games you were toxic in. AT LEAST. They only show the top 3. You aren't super bad but you are consistently down on your team. And no one likes that.
> [{quoted}](name=EvilDustMan,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LAnwEzch,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2018-12-04T18:57:58.055+0000) > > You are splitting hairs. You got reported for at least 3 games out of 20, that's 15% of the games you were toxic in. AT LEAST. They only show the top 3. You aren't super bad but you are consistently down on your team. And no one likes that. there are 4 games here. at the point was 9 out of the 180 people that i met reported me toxic.
: they wont take in account 'ME BUY U SKINS UNBAN ME' or 'ME BUY SSG SKIN TO SUPPORT U ESPORT TEAM UNBAN ME'. throwing money at them doesn't make them reconsider the option of taking off your perma ban. just make a new account lol you've been flaming your team nonstop for 4 games, when you could've just muted all, or told them to ff20 if you're that discontent with everyone. also, why are you so mad about being banned on a smurf?
> [{quoted}](name=swastika mann,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LAnwEzch,comment-id=000600000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-04T18:54:29.513+0000) > > they wont take in account 'ME BUY U SKINS UNBAN ME' or 'ME BUY SSG SKIN TO SUPPORT U ESPORT TEAM UNBAN ME'. throwing money at them doesn't make them reconsider the option of taking off your perma ban. just make a new account lol you've been flaming your team nonstop for 4 games, when you could've just muted all, or told them to ff20 if you're that discontent with everyone. also, why are you so mad about being banned on a smurf? well b/c this was my first account i ever made. just not the highest rank account i have (its b4 lol). it just have a lot of collectible stuff that you cant get anymore w/o luck or just not at all.
: they wont take in account 'ME BUY U SKINS UNBAN ME' or 'ME BUY SSG SKIN TO SUPPORT U ESPORT TEAM UNBAN ME'. throwing money at them doesn't make them reconsider the option of taking off your perma ban. just make a new account lol you've been flaming your team nonstop for 4 games, when you could've just muted all, or told them to ff20 if you're that discontent with everyone. also, why are you so mad about being banned on a smurf?
> [{quoted}](name=swastika mann,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LAnwEzch,comment-id=000600000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-04T18:54:29.513+0000) > > they wont take in account 'ME BUY U SKINS UNBAN ME' or 'ME BUY SSG SKIN TO SUPPORT U ESPORT TEAM UNBAN ME'. throwing money at them doesn't make them reconsider the option of taking off your perma ban. just make a new account lol you've been flaming your team nonstop for 4 games, when you could've just muted all, or told them to ff20 if you're that discontent with everyone they take in no account that i was a playing customer. thats just not right i supported the game the least they can do is have a little support for me.
: lol you're doing random acts of kindness because you assumed it gave you the pedestal to not be banned
> [{quoted}](name=swastika mann,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LAnwEzch,comment-id=0006000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-04T18:48:54.847+0000) > > lol you're doing random acts of kindness because you assume it gave you the pedestal to not be banned i had no intention of getting banned when buying these things. but yeah... this is like a life trial here. i just want to have a fair go at it. and not have JUST THE bad things to go off of. need some good.
larlzo (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Periscope,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LAnwEzch,comment-id=000100000002000200000001000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-04T18:36:53.418+0000) > > You are blaming your jungler for you having fallen behind. A lot of your chat is specifically focusing on the leash and her not ganking your lane, both in the past tense. It's a consistent point that you were unwilling to put away and focus on the game. You also call for reports, and tell your team to give up. I removed any lines that were neutral. I didn't see any lines that were positive, aside from 1 about warding. > > Chat 1: > > These are all the lines talking about how your jungler didn't gank your lane. Again, this appeared to occur throughout the game. > larlzo: why didnt > larlzo: u lvl 2 gank > larlzo: vi > larlzo: when i solo leash you > larlzo: im gonne get behind in lane > larlzo: speciflyu > larlzo: lvl 2 > larlzo: u have to help me catch up > larlzo: or i lose lane > larlzo: just cus i leashed u > larlzo: this is > larlzo: why > larlzo: i dont like leashing > larlzo: COMON > larlzo: ITS NOT LIKE I WASNT SAYING SHIT > larlzo: DONT EVER ASK TOP FOR A LEASH AGAIN > larlzo: IF YOU ARNT GONNA RETURN THE FAVOR > larlzo: im never > larlzo: leashing for jungle to > larlzo: agin > . > larlzo: uhh > larlzo: yes it does > larlzo: it puts me behind in XP > larlzo: uhh > larlzo: when solo leashing > . > larlzo: why didnt ig et any help help > larlzo: to > larlzo: top vi > larlzo: i leashed u > larlzo: i helped you > larlzo: why didnt u help me > larlzo: WHY!?!??!?!?!?!??! > larlzo: I ASKED A GOD DAMN QUESTION > [All]larlzo: I WANT A ANSWER > [All]larlzo: im never leashing top again... jungle never helps me > . > larlzo: bruhh > larlzo: blame vi > larlzo: hes the one that asked for helpo > larlzo: then doesnt retuen the favor > larlzo: i had a terrrible mtachip > larlzo: ganr vs quinn > larlzo: and i didnt get a single gank > larlzo: i was farming under turret the enitre laneing phase > larlzo: but yet > larlzo: how am i being a dick? > larlzo: im just saying > larlzo: that i helped you > larlzo: but i didnt get help backl > . > [All]larlzo: so ofc i fall behind > [All]larlzo: and lose > [All]larlzo: MUTE ME THEN > [All]larlzo: i dont have the gold > [All]larlzo: if i didnt heave to leash top > [All]larlzo: i would had a better laneing phase > [All]larlzo: but no, i leashed and didnt get 1 gank > larlzo: "play safe" i played safe for the first 10 mins and got nothing out of it > . > larlzo: you know what sucks? a bad matchup that i start behind in cus i had to leash for vi > larlzo: then not getting any helpo > larlzo: all of laneing phase > > > Here, you harass other teammates and call for reports. > larlzo: YOU JUST STOOD THERE > larlzo: AND DIED > larlzo: DIDNT EVEN TRY TO GET AWAY > ... > larlzo: SO HOW ABOUT THEM PINGS SORAKA? > larlzo: sure u did > ... > [All]larlzo: report soraka and fiddle please, they are being very rude to me > [All]larlzo: fiddle called ashe "uselss" please report him toxic > [All]larlzo: haveing 0 points is sooo toxic... as you see they are abusive please report them > ... > [All]larlzo: report soraka and fiddle please > [All]larlzo: they are abusive > [All]larlzo: they tell me im bad... but i do things for them and they dont do anything in return > ... > larlzo: this is why u are getting reported > > Here, you're greifing, saying that you've given up. > larlzo: not with this team > ... > larlzo: its gonna stay 0 > ... > larlzo: yeah > larlzo: we wasted this game > > None of this chat is acceptable in game. Chat is intended to build teamwork and work towards objectives. Your chat did neither of those things. stating facts isnt acceptable ok. w/e man like i said earlier the fucked up thing is. why does it even have to come down to reports. why cant people be men. do 1 thing wrong "report so and so inting" say 1 thing "report so and so harrasment" afk for 30 secs "report so and so afk" there is no end it is a vicious cycle of reports. and i guess i will be joinging the FUCKING CIRCLE and i will be reporting anyone that even says 1 thing bad, afks more than 30 secs, and gets solo killed by his laner. getting a big fat report from me. thats what this game has come down too. ill add pointing out you teammates mistakes is harassment. anything else i should report on sight?
> [{quoted}](name=larlzo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LAnwEzch,comment-id=0001000000020002000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-04T18:45:08.585+0000) > > stating facts isnt acceptable ok. w/e man like i said earlier the fucked up thing is. why does it even have to come down to reports. why cant people be men. > > do 1 thing wrong "report so and so inting" > say 1 thing "report so and so harrasment" > afk for 30 secs "report so and so afk" > > there is no end it is a vicious cycle of reports. and i guess i will be joinging the FUCKING CIRCLE and i will be reporting anyone that even says 1 thing bad, afks more than 30 secs, and gets solo killed by his laner. getting a big fat report from me. thats what this game has come down too. > > ill add pointing out you teammates mistakes is harassment. anything else i should report on sight? seine making this post, i have reported 7 people that have asked for a report on me in all chat... AND IVE PLAYED 5 GAMES. and i didnt even say a FUCKING WORD IN CHAT.
: >the first game if u even read i was asking for help and more help, but never received it all game. but yet they sure can harass me then report me afterwords then laugh at the fact that they won in the long game. You are blaming your jungler for you having fallen behind. A lot of your chat is specifically focusing on the leash and her not ganking your lane, both in the past tense. It's a consistent point that you were unwilling to put away and focus on the game. You also call for reports, and tell your team to give up. I removed any lines that were neutral. I didn't see any lines that were positive, aside from 1 about warding. Chat 1: These are all the lines talking about how your jungler didn't gank your lane. Again, this appeared to occur throughout the game. >larlzo: now im dead larlzo: why didnt larlzo: u lvl 2 gank larlzo: vi larlzo: when i solo leash you larlzo: im gonne get behind in lane larlzo: speciflyu larlzo: lvl 2 larlzo: u have to help me catch up larlzo: or i lose lane larlzo: just cus i leashed u larlzo: this is larlzo: why larlzo: i dont like leashing larlzo: COMON larlzo: ITS NOT LIKE I WASNT SAYING SHIT larlzo: DONT EVER ASK TOP FOR A LEASH AGAIN larlzo: IF YOU ARNT GONNA RETURN THE FAVOR larlzo: im never larlzo: leashing for jungle to larlzo: agin . larlzo: uhh larlzo: yes it does larlzo: it puts me behind in XP larlzo: uhh larlzo: when solo leashing . larlzo: why didnt ig et any help help larlzo: to larlzo: top vi larlzo: i leashed u larlzo: i helped you larlzo: why didnt u help me larlzo: WHY!?!??!?!?!?!??! larlzo: I ASKED A GOD DAMN QUESTION [All]larlzo: I WANT A ANSWER [All]larlzo: im never leashing top again... jungle never helps me . larlzo: bruhh larlzo: blame vi larlzo: hes the one that asked for helpo larlzo: then doesnt retuen the favor larlzo: i had a terrrible mtachip larlzo: ganr vs quinn larlzo: and i didnt get a single gank larlzo: i was farming under turret the enitre laneing phase larlzo: but yet larlzo: how am i being a dick? larlzo: im just saying larlzo: that i helped you larlzo: but i didnt get help backl . [All]larlzo: so ofc i fall behind [All]larlzo: and lose [All]larlzo: MUTE ME THEN [All]larlzo: i dont have the gold [All]larlzo: if i didnt heave to leash top [All]larlzo: i would had a better laneing phase [All]larlzo: but no, i leashed and didnt get 1 gank larlzo: "play safe" i played safe for the first 10 mins and got nothing out of it . larlzo: you know what sucks? a bad matchup that i start behind in cus i had to leash for vi larlzo: then not getting any helpo larlzo: all of laneing phase Here, you harass other teammates and call for reports. >larlzo: this fiddle larlzo: YOU JUST STOOD THERE larlzo: AND DIED larlzo: DIDNT EVEN TRY TO GET AWAY ... larlzo: SO HOW ABOUT THEM PINGS SORAKA? larlzo: sure u did ... [All]larlzo: report soraka and fiddle please, they are being very rude to me [All]larlzo: fiddle called ashe "uselss" please report him toxic [All]larlzo: haveing 0 points is sooo toxic... as you see they are abusive please report them ... [All]larlzo: report soraka and fiddle please [All]larlzo: they are abusive [All]larlzo: they tell me im bad... but i do things for them and they dont do anything in return ... larlzo: this is why u are getting reported Here, you're greifing, saying that you've given up. >larlzo: i dont wanna win larlzo: not with this team ... larlzo: its gonna stay 0 ... larlzo: yeah larlzo: we wasted this game None of this chat is acceptable in game. Chat is intended to build teamwork and work towards objectives. Your chat did neither of those things.
> [{quoted}](name=Periscope,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LAnwEzch,comment-id=000100000002000200000001000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-04T18:36:53.418+0000) > > You are blaming your jungler for you having fallen behind. A lot of your chat is specifically focusing on the leash and her not ganking your lane, both in the past tense. It's a consistent point that you were unwilling to put away and focus on the game. You also call for reports, and tell your team to give up. I removed any lines that were neutral. I didn't see any lines that were positive, aside from 1 about warding. > > Chat 1: > > These are all the lines talking about how your jungler didn't gank your lane. Again, this appeared to occur throughout the game. > larlzo: why didnt > larlzo: u lvl 2 gank > larlzo: vi > larlzo: when i solo leash you > larlzo: im gonne get behind in lane > larlzo: speciflyu > larlzo: lvl 2 > larlzo: u have to help me catch up > larlzo: or i lose lane > larlzo: just cus i leashed u > larlzo: this is > larlzo: why > larlzo: i dont like leashing > larlzo: COMON > larlzo: ITS NOT LIKE I WASNT SAYING SHIT > larlzo: DONT EVER ASK TOP FOR A LEASH AGAIN > larlzo: IF YOU ARNT GONNA RETURN THE FAVOR > larlzo: im never > larlzo: leashing for jungle to > larlzo: agin > . > larlzo: uhh > larlzo: yes it does > larlzo: it puts me behind in XP > larlzo: uhh > larlzo: when solo leashing > . > larlzo: why didnt ig et any help help > larlzo: to > larlzo: top vi > larlzo: i leashed u > larlzo: i helped you > larlzo: why didnt u help me > larlzo: WHY!?!??!?!?!?!??! > larlzo: I ASKED A GOD DAMN QUESTION > [All]larlzo: I WANT A ANSWER > [All]larlzo: im never leashing top again... jungle never helps me > . > larlzo: bruhh > larlzo: blame vi > larlzo: hes the one that asked for helpo > larlzo: then doesnt retuen the favor > larlzo: i had a terrrible mtachip > larlzo: ganr vs quinn > larlzo: and i didnt get a single gank > larlzo: i was farming under turret the enitre laneing phase > larlzo: but yet > larlzo: how am i being a dick? > larlzo: im just saying > larlzo: that i helped you > larlzo: but i didnt get help backl > . > [All]larlzo: so ofc i fall behind > [All]larlzo: and lose > [All]larlzo: MUTE ME THEN > [All]larlzo: i dont have the gold > [All]larlzo: if i didnt heave to leash top > [All]larlzo: i would had a better laneing phase > [All]larlzo: but no, i leashed and didnt get 1 gank > larlzo: "play safe" i played safe for the first 10 mins and got nothing out of it > . > larlzo: you know what sucks? a bad matchup that i start behind in cus i had to leash for vi > larlzo: then not getting any helpo > larlzo: all of laneing phase > > > Here, you harass other teammates and call for reports. > larlzo: YOU JUST STOOD THERE > larlzo: AND DIED > larlzo: DIDNT EVEN TRY TO GET AWAY > ... > larlzo: SO HOW ABOUT THEM PINGS SORAKA? > larlzo: sure u did > ... > [All]larlzo: report soraka and fiddle please, they are being very rude to me > [All]larlzo: fiddle called ashe "uselss" please report him toxic > [All]larlzo: haveing 0 points is sooo toxic... as you see they are abusive please report them > ... > [All]larlzo: report soraka and fiddle please > [All]larlzo: they are abusive > [All]larlzo: they tell me im bad... but i do things for them and they dont do anything in return > ... > larlzo: this is why u are getting reported > > Here, you're greifing, saying that you've given up. > larlzo: not with this team > ... > larlzo: its gonna stay 0 > ... > larlzo: yeah > larlzo: we wasted this game > > None of this chat is acceptable in game. Chat is intended to build teamwork and work towards objectives. Your chat did neither of those things. stating facts isnt acceptable ok. w/e man like i said earlier the fucked up thing is. why does it even have to come down to reports. why cant people be men. do 1 thing wrong "report so and so inting" say 1 thing "report so and so harrasment" afk for 30 secs "report so and so afk" there is no end it is a vicious cycle of reports. and i guess i will be joinging the FUCKING CIRCLE and i will be reporting anyone that even says 1 thing bad, afks more than 30 secs, and gets solo killed by his laner. getting a big fat report from me. thats what this game has come down too. ill add pointing out you teammates mistakes is harassment. anything else i should report on sight?
: I'm not even in the mood to read this entire post or all the comments, but I can tell you after reading just the first chat log it's enough to warrant a ban. I skimmed through comments and saw you've been banned before, and were warned this would be the final result if you continued on this path. A blatant breaking of TOS that you must have no idea about is ASKING FOR THE ENEMY TEAM IN /ALL CHAT TO REPORT YOUR TEAMMATES. If someone is deserving of a report YOU report them YOURSELF. You do NOT ask in /all chat for the enemy team to report YOUR OWN TEAMMATE. It has been stated before that it takes only a single report to get Riot's eye on someone. It is against TOS to ask for reports in all chat so idiots that are 2-man, 3-man, 4-man can't gang up on someone with a slurry of reports and attempt to get them in trouble. I haven't even read the TOS from start to finish, to be brutally honest, and I know how to follow it. It is literally COMMON SENSE. Don't be stupid, don't be mean. Asking for reports in /all chat is both stupid and mean. If you have the evidence to report someone then you don't need to gang up on them with multiple reports. Report them yourself and type in the description box what was said, hell even copy + paste it if it's directly from the after-game lobby. You can even take screenshots and get the game details link from the match history online and tweet at @RiotGamesSupport if you really think someone should be punished. My rant here is assuming whoever is reading this only read the first chat log, because that is all I needed to read to see you definitely could be reported for your actions, and reading some comments shows me you definitely could be perma'd as this is NOT your first offense. These are other human beings on the other side of your screen. WITH EMOTIONS. Don't think just because you're in front of a tv or a monitor that it gives you the right to treat them as anything less than your equal! If you don't give respect you will not get it in return.
> [{quoted}](name=Charles Redd,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LAnwEzch,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2018-12-04T18:28:27.809+0000) > > I'm not even in the mood to read this entire post or all the comments, but I can tell you after reading just the first chat log it's enough to warrant a ban. I skimmed through comments and saw you've been banned before, and were warned this would be the final result if you continued on this path. A blatant breaking of TOS that you must have no idea about is ASKING FOR THE ENEMY TEAM IN /ALL CHAT TO REPORT YOUR TEAMMATES. If someone is deserving of a report YOU report them YOURSELF. You do NOT ask in /all chat for the enemy team to report YOUR OWN TEAMMATE. It has been stated before that it takes only a single report to get Riot's eye on someone. It is against TOS to ask for reports in all chat so idiots that are 2-man, 3-man, 4-man can't gang up on someone with a slurry of reports and attempt to get them in trouble. I haven't even read the TOS from start to finish, to be brutally honest, and I know how to follow it. It is literally COMMON SENSE. Don't be stupid, don't be mean. Asking for reports in /all chat is both stupid and mean. If you have the evidence to report someone then you don't need to gang up on them with multiple reports. Report them yourself and type in the description box what was said, hell even copy + paste it if it's directly from the after-game lobby. You can even take screenshots and get the game details link from the match history online and tweet at @RiotGamesSupport if you really think someone should be punished. My rant here is assuming whoever is reading this only read the first chat log, because that is all I needed to read to see you definitely could be reported for your actions, and reading some comments shows me you definitely could be perma'd as this is NOT your first offense. These are other human beings on the other side of your screen. WITH EMOTIONS. Don't think just because you're in front of a tv or a monitor that it gives you the right to treat them as anything less than your equal! If you don't give respect you will not get it in return. i get asked to be reported at least 1 out of every 4 games in all chat, i report the guy that says it and nothing comes of it. the fucked up thing is. why does it even have to come down to reports. why cant people be men. do 1 thing wrong "report so and so inting" say 1 thing "report so and so harrasment" afk for 30 secs "report so and so afk" there is no end it is a vicious cycle of reports. and i guess i will be joinging the FUCKING CIRCLE and i will be reporting anyone that even says 1 thing bad, afks more than 30 secs, and gets solo killed by his laner. getting a big fat report from me. thats what this game has come down too.
: > [{quoted}](name=larlzo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LAnwEzch,comment-id=0008000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-04T18:17:57.905+0000) > > yes i learned that using mildly strong language will hurt peoples feelings and it shows that they are little bitches, that can be trampled over. > > i didn't sign anything... i only checked a box. yeah ive think ive learned more than enough to know that this game is as sensitive as the transvestite that freaks out when they are called a guy or girl. That *is* digitally signing a binding contract. ...as for the rest, you might want to brush up on the boards ToS that you also agreed to so you don't accidentally lose rights here as well.
> [{quoted}](name=sheldonbunny,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LAnwEzch,comment-id=00080000000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-04T18:27:02.834+0000) > > That *is* digitally signing a binding contract. > > ...as for the rest, you might want to brush up on the boards ToS that you also agreed to so you don't accidentally lose rights here a well. did i say something to offend you?
: Then go ask support. In the quote it doesn't say 9 players have reported you. Players (which could be plural) have reported you 9 times (1 report = the same as 9) in the past 20 games. Obviously, we read and interpret it differently. You want to focus on the number of players as opposed to the number of games.
> [{quoted}](name=Imperial Pandaa,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LAnwEzch,comment-id=000300000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-04T18:14:02.737+0000) > > Then go ask support. In the quote it doesn't say 9 players have reported you. > > Players (which could be plural) have reported you 9 times (1 report = the same as 9) in the past 20 games. > > Obviously, we read and interpret it differently. You want to focus on the number of players as opposed to the number of games. Players have reported you 9 times. 9 players have reported you. in the past 20 games.
PH45 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=larlzo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LAnwEzch,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-04T17:54:52.452+0000) > > i dont disagree that they should remove perma bans. its just you should not be able to be perma banned for mild use of strong language. > > if you look up i was perma banned in augest, i played the game and i went on to get a account to plat 4. (this account was banned in bronze 4) and a few of my freinds and i truly belive that this was not a just enough cause for me to be perma banned. But you were enough toxic to receive a 14-day ban previously? As I said after receiving a 14-day ban you should drop all negativity out as that is literally the final warning, and that the next time you act negatively will likely result in a permaban. Looking at your logs it definitely was enough to tip over to a permaban as there was quite a bit of negativity, even if it wasn't full of trigger words and extreme insults. You were constantly insulting and harassing your teammates which is already more than enough of a negative act.
> [{quoted}](name=PH45,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LAnwEzch,comment-id=00040000000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-04T18:05:20.190+0000) > > But you were enough toxic to receive a 14-day ban previously? > > As I said after receiving a 14-day ban you should drop all negativity out as that is literally the final warning, and that the next time you act negatively will likely result in a permaban. > > Looking at your logs it definitely was enough to tip over to a permaban as there was quite a bit of negativity, even if it wasn't full of trigger words and extreme insults. You were constantly insulting and harassing your teammates which is already more than enough of a negative act. my 14 day ban was received for the same thing. mild use of strong language. i tried to fight that one also. as i thought it was unfair. same as this one. some people seem to agree that my mild use of strong language inst grounds enough to perma ban me.
PH45 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=larlzo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LAnwEzch,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-04T17:54:52.452+0000) > > i dont disagree that they should remove perma bans. its just you should not be able to be perma banned for mild use of strong language. > > if you look up i was perma banned in augest, i played the game and i went on to get a account to plat 4. (this account was banned in bronze 4) and a few of my freinds and i truly belive that this was not a just enough cause for me to be perma banned. But you were enough toxic to receive a 14-day ban previously? As I said after receiving a 14-day ban you should drop all negativity out as that is literally the final warning, and that the next time you act negatively will likely result in a permaban. Looking at your logs it definitely was enough to tip over to a permaban as there was quite a bit of negativity, even if it wasn't full of trigger words and extreme insults. You were constantly insulting and harassing your teammates which is already more than enough of a negative act.
> [{quoted}](name=PH45,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LAnwEzch,comment-id=00040000000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-04T18:05:20.190+0000) > > But you were enough toxic to receive a 14-day ban previously? > > As I said after receiving a 14-day ban you should drop all negativity out as that is literally the final warning, and that the next time you act negatively will likely result in a permaban. > > Looking at your logs it definitely was enough to tip over to a permaban as there was quite a bit of negativity, even if it wasn't full of trigger words and extreme insults. You were constantly insulting and harassing your teammates which is already more than enough of a negative act. so having a heated debate is enough to get banned. cool. riot is the one that needs to reform
larlzo (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Imperial Pandaa,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LAnwEzch,comment-id=000300000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-04T17:58:04.451+0000) > > Okay... Now go ask if that means only 9 people reported you or if only 9 games you got reported. The code is that anything more than 0 reports flags a game for review. Which means being reported 9 times in the past 20 games could mean 1 person in 9 games reported you, or in 9 games you recieved at least 1 report and more wouldn't change it. Players have reported you 9 times in the past 20 games. end of discussion. yes that means 9 players reported me in 20 games.
> [{quoted}](name=larlzo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LAnwEzch,comment-id=0003000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-04T18:03:17.523+0000) > > Players have reported you 9 times in the past 20 games. > end > of > discussion. > > yes that means 9 players reported me in 20 games. if it was true what you are saying he would being saying something like... in the last 20 games 9 of those you have been reported.
: Okay... Now go ask if that means only 9 people reported you or if only 9 games you got reported. The code is that anything more than 0 reports flags a game for review. Which means being reported 9 times in the past 20 games could mean 1 person in 9 games reported you, or in 9 games you recieved at least 1 report and more wouldn't change it.
> [{quoted}](name=Imperial Pandaa,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LAnwEzch,comment-id=000300000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-04T17:58:04.451+0000) > > Okay... Now go ask if that means only 9 people reported you or if only 9 games you got reported. The code is that anything more than 0 reports flags a game for review. Which means being reported 9 times in the past 20 games could mean 1 person in 9 games reported you, or in 9 games you recieved at least 1 report and more wouldn't change it. Players have reported you 9 times in the past 20 games. end of discussion. yes that means 9 players reported me in 20 games.
: so you think buying skins give you protection against not being banned?
> [{quoted}](name=swastika mann,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LAnwEzch,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2018-12-04T18:00:12.407+0000) > > so you think buying skins give you protection against not being banned? no i would think doing random acts of kindness like donating to charity, or supporting esports teams.
: OP, I understand you're frustrated, but that doesn't mean you need to type it in chat. Simply put, you signed a legally binding contract. You did not live up to the agreement, but Riot did with their end. Freedom of speech is not a basic human right. Not all countries, in past, present, (and potentially future) have that right. Even with that right, there are consequences. You are facing such consequences now. Simply put, whatever your age is, you need to learn better self control. This behavior will not help you online nor offline. It's just a game, and no reason to attack others over. If you struggle with this, you might want to look into anger management of some sort. Counseling, meditation, being covered in puppies, etc. Life is too short to get this worked up over something so trivial. I wish you well in future endeavors.
> [{quoted}](name=sheldonbunny,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LAnwEzch,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2018-12-04T17:53:41.395+0000) > > OP, I understand you're frustrated, but that doesn't mean you need to type it in chat. Simply put, you signed a legally binding contract. You did not live up to the agreement, but Riot did with their end. Freedom of speech is not a basic human right. Not all countries, in past, present, (and potentially future) have that right. Even with that right, there are consequences. You are facing such consequences now. > > Simply put, whatever your age is, you need to learn better self control. This behavior will not help you online nor offline. It's just a game, and no reason to attack others over. If you struggle with this, you might want to look into anger management of some sort. Counseling, meditation, being covered in puppies, etc. Life is too short to get this worked up over something so trivial. > > I wish you well in future endeavors. i can tell you thats wrong. as it always seems that the worst people are bosses. the people that harass the people that just make others feel down. THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT END UP IN LEADERSHIP POSITIONS. i can tell you from many many person experiences. how did i attack anyone? did i tell anyone to hurt themselves? did i tell someone to go kill themselves? did i really deserve being perma banned?
PH45 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=larlzo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LAnwEzch,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2018-12-04T16:44:24.869+0000) > > i mean how can i do that when elementary things like calling people idiots and bad are so bad they felt they needed to perma me. if i cant talk in chat at all. then give me a perma chat restiction or something. not a ban from the game for basic stuff. Why is there a need to act negatively? What good does come out of it? People who are flaming can't be reasoned with 99% of the time cause of how delusional they are, you are literally just digging your own grave trying to compete with them using negativity, and then asking them to bury you in your grave. Permabans should 100% stay in the game, while most permabanned players will just make a new account after they get banned there is still a percentage that reforms after they realize how stupidly they acted and actually lost valuable accounts. > if i cant talk in chat at all. then give me a perma chat restiction or something. not a ban from the game for basic stuff. You can talk in chat, but showing continuous negativity will result in a punishment to you, like here.
> [{quoted}](name=PH45,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LAnwEzch,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2018-12-04T17:42:06.318+0000) > > Why is there a need to act negatively? What good does come out of it? People who are flaming can't be reasoned with 99% of the time cause of how delusional they are, you are literally just digging your own grave trying to compete with them using negativity, and then asking them to bury you in your grave. > > Permabans should 100% stay in the game, while most permabanned players will just make a new account after they get banned there is still a percentage that reforms after they realize how stupidly they acted and actually lost valuable accounts. > > > You can talk in chat, but showing continuous negativity will result in a punishment to you, like here. i dont disagree that they should remove perma bans. its just you should not be able to be perma banned for mild use of strong language. if you look up i was perma banned in augest, i played the game and i went on to get a account to plat 4. (this account was banned in bronze 4) and a few of my freinds and i truly belive that this was not a just enough cause for me to be perma banned.
: Well seeing as you almost certainly got punished for your toxic behavior before this in the form of a chat restriction and 14 day ban. THAT should have told you. If you are really curious why don't you actually go check out the summoners code so that you are no longer ignorant to what behavior is socially acceptable.
> [{quoted}](name=nuclearwarpotato,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LAnwEzch,comment-id=000500000001,timestamp=2018-12-04T17:39:11.393+0000) > > Well seeing as you almost certainly got punished for your toxic behavior before this in the form of a chat restriction and 14 day ban. THAT should have told you. If you are really curious why don't you actually go check out the summoners code so that you are no longer ignorant to what behavior is socially acceptable. i did, and i tried to fight it. when i got a 14 day ban.... socially acceptable behavior on a T-rated game i would think would include the sparse use of strong language (dumb, stupid, bad, idiot, shit, fuck, and more)
: I looked at your match history and saw the 2-week long gap in your history. You were consistently insulting or harassing a teammate. The first two games, it was the jungler, the 3rd and 4th game, it was the support. Usually you were zeroing in on one player, but you were consistently negative to many players in your game.
> [{quoted}](name=Periscope,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LAnwEzch,comment-id=0001000000020002000000010000,timestamp=2018-12-04T17:28:31.534+0000) > > I looked at your match history and saw the 2-week long gap in your history. > > You were consistently insulting or harassing a teammate. The first two games, it was the jungler, the 3rd and 4th game, it was the support. Usually you were zeroing in on one player, but you were consistently negative to many players in your game. the first game if u even read i was asking for help and more help, but never received it all game. but yet they sure can harass me then report me afterwords then laugh at the fact that they won in the long game. he 2nd game i didnt even say anything out of line i was pointing out problems that we had. not even in a negitive way. the third game nautlis was trolling me as my supp, he was strait greifing me all of laneing phase. and im just supposed to let him do that to me? he didnt like the fact that i picked swain ADC so he trolled me, yet i get the consequences. the fourth game i just had a bad supp, and he was making stupid decisions and i was calling him out on it. then he decides to leave me to 1v2 cus he decided that he didn't wanna play bot lane anymore. yet i bet nothing has happend to that nautilis. again if you look MOST OF THE TIME IM ASKING FOR HELP THEN NOT GETTING IT.
Jo0o (NA)
: Multiple reports in one game are redundant. You received one or more reports in 9/20 games. That’s honestly terrible.
> [{quoted}](name=Jo0o,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LAnwEzch,comment-id=000700000000,timestamp=2018-12-04T17:32:50.220+0000) > > Multiple reports in one game are redundant. You received one or more reports in 9/20 games. That’s honestly terrible. in no way does he say that i received a report in 9 games. in the past 20. he actully SAYS. Players have reported you 9 times in the past 20 games. and no double reports are not redundant. it actually makes it worse.
larlzo (NA)
: how was i supposed to know that 5% of the people ive played with have the right to get me perma banned. its 5% 9 people out of 180 reported me. that means 171 people didnt think i was report worthy? what about the voice of those 171? can we get them? or do you only listen to the 5% that whine about everything?
> [{quoted}](name=larlzo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LAnwEzch,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2018-12-04T17:03:47.908+0000) > > how was i supposed to know that 5% of the people ive played with have the right to get me perma banned. its 5% 9 people out of 180 reported me. that means 171 people didnt think i was report worthy? what about the voice of those 171? can we get them? or do you only listen to the 5% that whine about everything? 171 vs 9... i wonder how that fight would turn out in a boxing ring.
: 9 out of 20 is 45%. It's justifies, not justify's.
> [{quoted}](name=EvilDustMan,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LAnwEzch,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2018-12-04T17:17:07.001+0000) > > 9 out of 20 is 45%. It's justifies, not justify's. Greetings, human! I am Blitzcrank Bot. My purpose is to provide a fast and thorough explanation of your recent ban. Players have reported you 9 times in the past 20 games for negative or abusive behaviors in chat - in human terms, this means giving up on games, griefing your fellow players, and generally being difficult to play with over a large number of matches and teammates.\ guess i have to reword it. cus its 9 reports in 20 games.
Xyzx (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=larlzo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LAnwEzch,comment-id=00010000000300000001000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-04T17:07:57.812+0000) > > sorry but no. there are somethings that just cant be taken away. worked around yes. but taken away no. No, they can flatout do whatever, as long as you agree...which you did. If you dont like it, take them to court... I dont recommend it since you'd lose as its legal binding which is regularly updated that you must re-agree to every update. I understand you dont like it and all, but thats how it is. If you're that upset about it, grow some thick skin ingame and deal with the kids typing, because thats all it is.
> [{quoted}](name=Chår Aznable,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LAnwEzch,comment-id=000100000003000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-04T17:16:35.606+0000) > > No, they can flatout do whatever, as long as you agree...which you did. > > If you dont like it, take them to court... I dont recommend it since you'd lose as its legal binding which is regularly updated that you must re-agree to every update. > > I understand you dont like it and all, but thats how it is. > > If you're that upset about it, grow some thick skin ingame and deal with the kids typing, because thats all it is. no they can not just "do whatever" cus you singed a contract. does not work that way. there are somethings like human rights, that can not be taken away under no circumstances. as i said they dont take it away from you. they just have ways around everything.
Xyzx (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=larlzo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LAnwEzch,comment-id=000100000003000000010000,timestamp=2018-12-04T16:25:49.317+0000) > > no riot can not take away any rights bestowed by the bill of rights and human rights agreed upon. Yes they can if they make a legal binding contract in which you willfully agree to(ToS)
sorry but no. there are somethings that just cant be taken away. worked around yes. but taken away no.
: Because in just under half your games you seem to have a negative attitude. Also, I don't thibk Blitzbot tells you how many people reported you, but how many games you were reported.
Greetings, human! I am Blitzcrank Bot. My purpose is to provide a fast and thorough explanation of your recent ban. Players have reported you 9 times in the past 20 games for negative or abusive behaviors in chat - in human terms, this means giving up on games, griefing your fellow players, and generally being difficult to play with over a large number of matches and teammates. direct quote from the bot himself.
: Unless they changed Blitzbot, he should be telling how many games you were reported for, not how many people.
Greetings, human! I am Blitzcrank Bot. My purpose is to provide a fast and thorough explanation of your recent ban. Players have reported you 9 times in the past 20 games for negative or abusive behaviors in chat - in human terms, this means giving up on games, griefing your fellow players, and generally being difficult to play with over a large number of matches and teammates.
: So seeing as they very rarely go straight to permaban you have probably been chat restricted and been banned for 14 days before this. You probably should have realized by now that how you have been acting will result in punishment. They warned you and it appears that you did not heed it. It also seems that you have a trend of being toxic. It does not matter how "justified" you are or if your teammate "deserved" it. Being toxic in retaliation is the same as being toxic in the first place. I am sorry that you were not able to realize that your behavior would continue to get you reprimanded.
how was i supposed to know that 5% of the people ive played with have the right to get me perma banned. its 5% 9 people out of 180 reported me. that means 171 people didnt think i was report worthy? what about the voice of those 171? can we get them? or do you only listen to the 5% that whine about everything?
larlzo (NA)
: Where in this justify's me being perma banned? what did i do that was so bad i got perma banned?
I just cant believe that elementary insults can out weigh- me buying signiture addition SSG gnar to support SSG... buy dark star cho'gath for charity. all the good games ive had. the friends i made. my first penta-kill ever (shyvana jung btw). just because i have a temper and i call people names in a T rated game that you would hear outside of a middle school when they get out of school. i just cant believe i have to say good buy to all these things because of elementary insults. i have had this account sense 2014
: haha really? you are free to express your emotions all you want, "man I'm kicking some ass!" "that was a poor teamfight by us" "I can't fucking believe they stole that Baron" all of these are expressing emotion without insulting and flaming others if you can't "express yourself" without cursing at and belittling people, then you have a lot of growing up to do
i would take "that was a poor teamfight by us" as harassment your telling me i play bad. the thing is anyone can take anything anyway. they can turn anything into a negative comment.
: Correct me if I'm wrong: Your permaban was in August. You had a 2-week ban that started on 8/7/2018.
: Correct me if I'm wrong: Your permaban was in August. You had a 2-week ban that started on 8/7/2018.
you are right, all it took was 6 days of people harassing me to get me to blow up again and call them idiots. and get perms banned. almost like the game is ment to do at low elo people love to piss each other off and then laugh when they get someone banned as if it was the right thing to do.
: yes, it is the rules are layed out for you before you play your first game. if you cant follow them, it's on you good luck little guy{{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
so your saying i cant show my feeling in game? your saying i dont have a right to show my emotion in game?
larlzo (NA)
: why do people down vote the truth? cus it hurts and is bannable?
PH45 (EUNE)
: After 14-day ban even mild toxicity will result in a perma. 14-day ban is considered the last warning, at which point you should drop all negativity out since at that point you are being heavily monitored for toxicity.
i mean how can i do that when elementary things like calling people idiots and bad are so bad they felt they needed to perma me. if i cant talk in chat at all. then give me a perma chat restiction or something. not a ban from the game for basic stuff.
: no little fella, YOU need to reform
no i dont, i did not say anything beyond the scope of 13 year old kids mind. elementary name calling is just that. basic if i can be banned for something so basic, its not me that needs to reform.
: > [{quoted}](name=Imperial Pandaa,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LAnwEzch,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-12-04T16:22:44.044+0000) > > 45%* > > In the last 45% of your games, not 5%. i think it means 9 people in his last 20 games. thats 180 players total.
9 people in the last 20 games. reported me if you do the math there are 10 playerrs per game take 1 away for me... 9 other players 9x20= 180 9/180 = .05 5% of people reported me and got me banned
larlzo (NA)
: Honestly, i'd rather take a permanent chat restriction over a ban for this behavior. i didnt tell anybody to do any bodily harm to themselves or others. i didnt call anybody anything you wouldnt hear on a school playground. (aka bad, idoitc, stupid) the game is rated T for teen right? TEEN Content is generally suitable for ages 13 and up. May contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling and/or **infrequent use of strong language.**
why do people down vote the truth? cus it hurts and is bannable?
: You were insulting your teammates in a game that you're supposed to be coordinating with them. >so you say that calling peoplle stupid, bad and idoits. is grounds for permanent ban? Your entire punishment history is taken into account before a permanent ban is issued. You were told after a 2-week ban that this would be the next step.
out of 20 games 9 people reported me. not counting me there are Max 180 other people i played with. 5%. i dont understand how 5% of people can have so much power over me. elementary insults.
: You were insulting your teammates in a game that you're supposed to be coordinating with them. >so you say that calling peoplle stupid, bad and idoits. is grounds for permanent ban? Your entire punishment history is taken into account before a permanent ban is issued. You were told after a 2-week ban that this would be the next step.
so you just agree that elementary insults are grounds for a permanent ban? riot needs to reform.
Xyzx (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=larlzo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LAnwEzch,comment-id=0001000000030000,timestamp=2018-12-04T16:08:46.019+0000) > > the thing is, the freedom of speech says. u can say what you want as long as it does not effect another person's pursuit of happiness. your freedom of speech is gone the instant you agreed to ToS by riot.
no riot can not take away any rights bestowed by the bill of rights and human rights agreed upon.
: oh that doesn't actually apply in this setting. riot has the right to set their own rules on their own servers, and no where in the constitution says you're free from the consequences of what you say. riot didnt actually stop you from saying what you wanted, they just warned you if you did say something objectionable, you run the risk of being punished/suspended
riot cant just say ill take this law from america but i wont use this law on our servers. no if they have US servers they must comply to the rules of the USA
: Assuming you had previous bans, then yes. At this point if you're better off just not saying anything because as shown by someone else's suspension, arguing itself is bannable, whether it helps the game or not. Concerning your situation specifically, you should probably read the summoner's code. Just an example: "Someone who is unfamiliar with what you consider playful may take your comment as an attack and react unfavorably."
so because we live in 2018 and being a white strait male is offence to people. i dont think just cus 5% of people got offended on what i said i should be perma banned
: thats 100% true, but flaming them back is retaliation, which is just as bad because fighting toxicity with toxicity just breeds more. muting them ensures they dont piss you off to the point where you do say something stupid. report them afterward and you get off scott-free
: of course not, i personally don't believe any chat based offenses deserve a permanent ban, but my opinion isn't exactly the reason we're here. we are only here because it happens consistently enough to actually be a problem, and you were warned for your 14 day ban. but riot only does it because they have to, they did have permanently scaling restrictions at one point, but canned it because when people couldn't flame they just soft inted. edit: by "any" chat based offenses, allow me to correct myself, i mean for minor chat. hate speech of course is terrible and should warrant it.
i tried to fight my 14 day ban cus it was for the same thing. yet as you see nothing. simple name calling should not be perma bannable.
Jøkèr (NA)
: Freedom of speech is a right for all human beings. That's cool. Let me shout some racist shit for an hour in public and see the consequences of my actions.
the thing is, the freedom of speech says. u can say what you want as long as it does not effect another person's pursuit of happiness.
Jøkèr (NA)
: First of all, you must have been penalized a few times before reaching a permaban. So that alone doesnt help your case. For you to consistently shit talk against other players (whether they deserve it or not) is prolly the reason you got banned. Just because someone is being an asshat in chat doesnt mean you should stoop to their level and be one too. Literally just hit the mute button. Whether you have thick skin or not doesnt mean shit if in the end you are gonna be tilted. The mute button is everyone's friend. Like honestly I'm not trying to be rude but reread everything you typed at without even thinking of the game and ask yourself again whether the permaban was needed or not. It's as if you were writing a novel while playing the game each time.
i was told if i have to mute someone they are doing something against the TOS and should be punished. so i should never have to mute anyone (came directly from a ticket btw)
: You were insulting your teammates in a game that you're supposed to be coordinating with them. >so you say that calling peoplle stupid, bad and idoits. is grounds for permanent ban? Your entire punishment history is taken into account before a permanent ban is issued. You were told after a 2-week ban that this would be the next step.
i tried to fight that too, as it was for the same reason SIMPLE name calling. and how can i coordinate with my team? when they REFUSE to help me after i helped them? ill go back and look at my ticket and find the orginal 14 day ban games if you would like me to. I. E. leashing for a jungle then asking for a gank but not receiving one.
: oh i edited before you posted, but to save you the trouble, its referring to the CHAMPIONS use of it, not other players.
but still you think that simple name calling is worthy of a permanent ban? when it can be heard from my favorite streamers, other players, and in public places in real life?
: content. as in in game content. chat is not considered in game content. its a feature. notice how even ESRB says "online interactions not rated", and infrequent use of strong language is referring to the *champions* use of them, such as kled, not other players. also flaming them is against the rules you agreed too.
content generally suitable for ages 13 and up. end of sentence next sentence "may contain... infrequent use of strong language.
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