: I am so SICK
Heres the truth. People who play games competitively will flame, no matter what. The pros flame their teammates when they fuck up. Now some people take it over the edge with like death threats and slurs, that can never really be justified because it isn't socially acceptable anywhere. But normal flaming is just a way of venting pent up frustration, and it's psychologically speaking, healthy for the most part. I flame my friends I play with IRL. If we are playing in a competitive way...that is key. A casuals game, it doesn't really matter so theres no point to investing any passion. But if you go into the game with a hard set goal to win, and you have a backbone..u will flame if someone fucks up or is argumentative. It happens in corporate america, it happens in households. Those people still end up working with those people the next day. People do not behave like assholes in true high elo, because they either don't care because they know they can get their LP back next game...or they are in fear of being banned. If you see a toxic smurf they are probably just venting pent up rage they can't vent on their main. Seems like thats a sentiment they communicated here. If this upsets you enough that you wanted to get back at them, just submit a support ticket with that text you provided. Should be a perm since the perp admitted to sharing an account. Personally, I don't find any of that to be worth my time. Sometimes I have some fun flaming back telling them how much of a scumfuck bastard they are, but I don't really care to take more than the few seconds to tell them that.
: > [{quoted}](name=likerio,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LTcX6F41,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2018-02-09T17:00:29.758+0000) > > damn, you are on edge. you either read all of that or read the first line and got defensive, talk about insecure. i can tell you without a doubt you are bronze-silver if you have never played ranked, and on top of that you are very likely to stay there with the kind of attitude you have. Funny coming from someone who is flaming them for no reason instead of replying with a formal response like most people in this comment section.
> [{quoted}](name=Darkin Hybrid,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LTcX6F41,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-09T17:39:19.351+0000) > > Funny coming from someone who is flaming them for no reason instead of replying with a formal response like most people in this comment section. I gave you a formal response in my first post. I gave you, in my humble opinion, some very insightful advice to go with it as well. But you didn't take the time to read it. You read one line and completely misinterpreted it. Why? Because you're overly sensitive. That also explains why you rage so hard in all your games, and you come on here for advice how not to. Its easy to tilt you. People probably tilt you without even trying to. You think I'm "flaming" you for calling you on edge. Buddy, not even close. You need to adjust your attitude, for real. The only thing thats going to happen is you're going to get several accounts banned and then maybe just quit the game. But, if you're like me, you'll instead use that information as a clue to change yourself. Once you change your attitude, focus on yourself, your game gets better.
Rioter Comments
: I'm disappointed- No, FURIOUS, at these Lunar Even bundles
Who caaaaares. Its a free to play game. They are creating revenue off their free to play game as they see fit. You want to protest, stop buying. They arent going to listen to you sqwuak on these forums. Only people listening are people who think like you and you are all worthless to them in that regard. Only thing they listen to in regards to paid content is money. And for good reason. I bought pretty much everything you listed with no problem. Why? Because the content is cool enough for me to want to pay the money I paid for it. Thats all that matters. _<Removed by Moderation>_
: Northern Front Swain's hat and shoulder plates are so vivid it actually makes me not want to pick it
who cares kid, its one of the best cheap skins in the game. deal with it
: Zoe nerfs have landed on PBE
she'll be useless now and the boards will rejoice as we get another season of no skill point and click Malzahar or scripting Xeraths dominating solo que xd
: So Pro players are QQing instead of learning to play against her? Pro players called Zoe overpowered Professional. Players. People did the math and Zoe does the average damage of a burst mage full rotation Zoe doesn't do that damage every 60-90 seconds, she does it every 7 That's why Zoe is overpowered
> [{quoted}](name=MuffledGarbage,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3yE3eB1c,comment-id=000600010002,timestamp=2018-02-09T16:57:54.713+0000) > > So Pro players are QQing instead of learning to play against her? > > Pro players called Zoe overpowered > > Professional. > > Players. > > People did the math and Zoe does the average damage of a burst mage full rotation > > Zoe doesn&#x27;t do that damage every 60-90 seconds, she does it every 7 > > That&#x27;s why Zoe is overpowered umm....the burst mages also do it in 7 sec lol. pro players complaints about zoe have nothing to do with her damage. and most arent even complaining at all.
: > [{quoted}](name=likerio,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LTcX6F41,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-02-08T22:45:46.166+0000) > > Yup. You are in elo-hell. Bronze-Silver. Where people would rather troll you and see you lose your cool than win the game or help you out, by largemajority(not all.) There is no point in having your chat active at these ranks, as all the players are pretty much garbage outside of basic laning phase. Communicate only by using your pings, focus on your game and whats happening around you, get good at 1 champ and 1 champ only, and get the fuck out of hell. Mute the other team as well, mute emotes. Mute whatever you have to so you can focus on your game. Do not expect anything out of anyone, do not expect to win. You need to learn to carry, hard, like from the brink of death I swear to god my team has to be intentionally throwing hard carry. > > People in mid Gold(3+) are generally nicer and more timid, and you can try to unmute there and see if you can start communicating normally. You start getting to high Plat(2+) the toxicity will return strong. The people in plat will be much more effective at trolling and getting you on tilt, both ally and enemy. These are the toxic people from elo hell who somehow found a way to keep one account unbanned long enough to climb up and try to bring you back down again. They won&#x27;t all caps or throw out racial slurs, they have perfected their tilt game far beyond that. You need to learn to selectively mute these people. The second you see something you don&#x27;t like, you mute. You don&#x27;t talk, you don&#x27;t tell them how you feel, they aren&#x27;t there to be your friend, they were made in some lab to try and get a reaction strong enough to get account banned. They are sick minded people, and you must mute and deny them the only thing they want, an effect on your life. > > Now, once you reach Diamond 3 or so you should be good. Diamond 4-5 imo is still full of fake diamonds, people who know they aren&#x27;t good enough to climb further basically. Those people have been stuck at Diamond probably for 3 seasons. They want to try and bring you down into the final elo hell there is. You will have to selectively mute them as well. Once you get beyond that though it&#x27;s a bunch of nice and humble people. Unless you run into Hashinshin. I haven't even played ranked on this account, so how am I "bronze, silver" exactly?
> [{quoted}](name=Darkin Hybrid,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LTcX6F41,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2018-02-09T10:11:56.760+0000) > > I haven&#x27;t even played ranked on this account, so how am I &quot;bronze, silver&quot; exactly? damn, you are on edge. you either read all of that or read the first line and got defensive, talk about insecure. i can tell you without a doubt you are bronze-silver if you have never played ranked, and on top of that you are very likely to stay there with the kind of attitude you have.
F1SHEYES (NA)
: I should probably learn to play him top lane again LOL I main jungle because it really takes the pressure off of taking trades and knowing wave management perfectly (when to freeze, slow push, etc) and I suck at CSing for Shen top should I go spell book or aftershock (my usual)?
> [{quoted}](name=F1SHEYES,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=crYOs8jg,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-09T05:56:35.247+0000) > > I should probably learn to play him top lane again LOL > I main jungle because it really takes the pressure off of taking trades and knowing wave management perfectly (when to freeze, slow push, etc) and I suck at CSing > for Shen top should I go spell book or aftershock (my usual)? Ah, thats why I first got into maining Jungle when i first started. Have you tried Jax or maybe Sejuani. Those are tank junglers that I can think of that are very strong. What exactly are you trying to get out of playing Shen. If you are trying to climb up in ranked and are pretty sure you want to play top I'd really suggest Jax. He's simple to play, like Shen and probably somewhat matches the play style of fighting you like with Shen. He's just better than Shen at carrying the game, which is what you're going to have to do to climb out of low-elo. I think you just have to rely too much with a Shen on others doing the right thing. Simple things like knowing you have ultimate and they can go for certain things. Jax you just win lane, you jump on top of people and bash their heads in. I have a IRL friend of mine who couldn't play any champ out of Silver. Then he picked up Jax last season and finally got to Diamond. You should play grasp for shen and really any tanks top IMO. Unless you are playing high elo or have found something that works better for you through experimentation/studying .
F1SHEYES (NA)
: Now we can't have stopwatch and boots {{item:3070}} Spellbook, boots, biscuit, CDR, Conditioning, Overgrowth?? For item build just go standard tank?
> [{quoted}](name=F1SHEYES,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=crYOs8jg,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-02-09T03:19:08.614+0000) > > Now we can&#x27;t have stopwatch and boots {{item:3070}} > Spellbook, boots, biscuit, CDR, Conditioning, Overgrowth?? > For item build just go standard tank? oh for some reason i thought that was next patch. stopwatch def over boots. I wouldn't go biscuit because its not really that necessary having smite with a tank champ that won't be ganking early. Go futures I guess, man the inspiration tree(rightfully) got pretty nerfed with that swap, last two slots are lackluster. Conditioning and overgrowth for sure for jng. i think titanic hydra should be your only "offense" item but I'm not sure how you play. i mean trinity force could be considered for split pushing. I like rushing bamis on shen a lot normally so you may try that as well. But I'm no shen expert. I think you are starting to see why shen is not a good jungler xd anyways yeah go trackers. establish vision. i mean you are a support champ. unless of course you want to just do something silly like PtA shen and go full attack speed.
: Zoe nerfs have landed on PBE
Ya. I'm going to guess these get reverted, because she will be pretty useless if all these things go through.
: Preparation for ranked (or rather, the lack thereof)
People are trying harder in ranked. And playing their main champion. If you can't consistently get like a 10-15:1 KDA in norms vs people using first time champions or trying troll things, you won't be doing very good in ranked. You need to improve on your champion. This is my advice I climbed to diamond 2 last season: you are playing WAAAAY too many champions. I look at your match history for ranked and you play some mid, some adc, some top, no jungle but you mentioned it. You aren't going to climb very fast to where you want to go doing this. It's just not possible, there are so many little things you need to be doing with those champs that you need to study from online content and perfect. Choose one champion, one role, and dodge everything else. Dodge if you don't like your team comp. Dodge if their bot lane beats your bot lane. Dodge if your jungle is playing off meta. Dodge every game and don't play if you have to. In your elo, you need to be able to stomp people, every single time. From one role, and solo carry your team as if they were all trying to lose. Literally, 1v9. Thats my advice. First thing I would do is just start playing one champ only and do it for a couple months until you know you have improved enough to have a better performance in your ranked games.
F1SHEYES (NA)
: Help getting S rank on Shen jungle
I recommend playing something else. That isn't going to let you climb xd. All jokes aside, you do need to rush Tiamat. Go Unsealed Spellbook, Stopwatch, Boots, CDR rune. Swap to TP, and focus on split pushing lanes in mid game. Your ganks are going to be weak, so I'd focus on farm early. Problem is invade is not very safe for this champion.
: Riot's balance team at it again: reducing diversity in the jungle
Seems to me their answer to scaling ADC meta is to buff everyone else. The AP items, if they go live as is, will certainly be a massive boost to mid-lane. This is a buff for jungle in low-elo and a nerf for LCS.
Rexxiee (NA)
: Kog down to 46% wr from 52%
yup. kog is in the shitter, but rightfully so for the most part. his wr will go back up slowly as people realize rageblade is no longer viable on him with the nerfs to his w.
Cunky (NA)
: You're level 23 and talking about bronze-silvers. Please respond to this on your main or something, because it makes this seem fishy as fuck.
you claim to be the prince of uganda. i don't believe you
Couffe (NA)
: Sounds like you're an ADC main
> [{quoted}](name=Couffe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lw8aj0xm,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-02-08T23:16:25.281+0000) > > Sounds like you&#x27;re an ADC main Jungle actually.
Couffe (NA)
: And here I'll give you numbers. Tristana has been above 50% winrate the past several patches. 15% of games she is picked. For some comparison Lee Sin has a 10% pick rate and a 48% winrate. The fact that Tristana has been like this for so long is ridiculous. Another example is Twitch he has always sat above a 52% winrate, though he doesn't have as high of a pick rate. Top lane is pretty boring right now bruisers are insanely bad and get out damaged by tanks. The really only viable junglers in higher elo are tank junglers. For example Warwick's winrate has been 53% for a while now. Tanks deal more damage than bruisers and can one shot like assassins. The only tanks that don't get murdered by an adc is Maokai and Sejuani. Adc's can click on someone and get 3 autoes off and instantly kill someone. With high attack speed they kill people insanely fast and it isn't fun to play against at all. The stats don't lie.
Well, as a high elo Jungle main I can assure you that tank junglers are not the only viable junglers. Have you heard of Nidalee? Kha'zix? How about our girls Evelynn, Camille, or Vi? Or maybe you'd prefer some Rengar or Shaco. 15% pick rate isn't that high, Tristana is nothing compared to Ezreal or Vayne during strong patches. Tristana's jump out of CC is annoying, but she's not a problem. Kogmaw was a problem, and they did in fact justifiably nerf him this newest patch. Top lane is just as boring as any other lane, nothing to really be said here.
: Removing Celestial Body is such a fucking unbelievably stupid decision IT HURTS
Lol Singed main in 2k18. Glad your version of your champ is in the shitter. Nothing more annoying than a champ that can go 1-20 and still have an impact on the game.
wildfox99 (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=likerio,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cE2upZzr,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-02-08T22:16:00.441+0000) > > Taliyah is getting an **SSG** Skin in July. Super Saiyan God? {{sticker:sg-lulu}}
lol. Samsung Galaxy. Crown selected Taliyah for his skin. Look at SKT skins last year for a quality comparison and they should be a little bit better than those given that the quality of skins keeps getting better every year.
: Everyone tries to tilt me on purpose, suggestions how to deal with it?
Yup. You are in elo-hell. Bronze-Silver. Where people would rather troll you and see you lose your cool than win the game or help you out, by largemajority(not all.) There is no point in having your chat active at these ranks, as all the players are pretty much garbage outside of basic laning phase. Communicate only by using your pings, focus on your game(you are there, you are garbage as well---trust me you own up to this you improve) and whats happening around you, get good at 1 champ and 1 champ only, and get the fuck out of hell. Now people say how do you know what to do with my team in a certain situation. Basically, you need to just follow with what they are doing if you know you can come in and clean up, and you know they are committed to it. You do no initiate anything yourself unless you know you can pretty much 1v9. Too much commitment problems in low elo. Mute the other team as well, mute emotes. Mute whatever you have to so you can focus on your game. Do not expect anything out of anyone, do not expect to win. You need to learn to carry, hard, like from the brink of death I swear to god my team has to be intentionally throwing hard carry. People in mid Gold(3+) are generally nicer and more timid, and you can try to unmute there and see if you can start communicating normally. You start getting to high Plat(2+) the toxicity will return strong. The people in plat will be much more effective at trolling and getting you on tilt, both ally and enemy. These are the toxic people from elo hell who somehow found a way to keep one account unbanned long enough to climb up and try to bring you back down again. They won't all caps or throw out racial slurs, they have perfected their tilt game far beyond that. You need to learn to selectively mute these people. The second you see something you don't like, you mute. You don't talk, you don't tell them how you feel, they aren't there to be your friend, they were made in some lab to try and get a reaction strong enough to get account banned. They are sick minded people, and you must mute and deny them the only thing they want, an effect on your life. Now, once you reach Diamond 3 or so you should be good. Diamond 4-5 imo is still full of fake diamonds, people who know they aren't good enough to climb further basically. Those people have been stuck at Diamond probably for 3 seasons. They want to try and bring you down into the final elo hell there is. You will have to selectively mute them as well. Once you get beyond that though it's a bunch of nice and humble people. Unless you run into Hashinshin.
: Everyone tries to tilt me on purpose, suggestions how to deal with it?
Yup. You are in elo-hell. Bronze-Silver. Where people would rather troll you and see you lose your cool than win the game or help you out, by largemajority(not all.) There is no point in having your chat active at these ranks, as all the players are pretty much garbage outside of basic laning phase. Communicate only by using your pings, focus on your game and whats happening around you, get good at 1 champ and 1 champ only, and get the fuck out of hell. Mute the other team as well, mute emotes. Mute whatever you have to so you can focus on your game. Do not expect anything out of anyone, do not expect to win. You need to learn to carry, hard, like from the brink of death I swear to god my team has to be intentionally throwing hard carry. People in mid Gold(3+) are generally nicer and more timid, and you can try to unmute there and see if you can start communicating normally. You start getting to high Plat(2+) the toxicity will return strong. The people in plat will be much more effective at trolling and getting you on tilt, both ally and enemy. These are the toxic people from elo hell who somehow found a way to keep one account unbanned long enough to climb up and try to bring you back down again. They won't all caps or throw out racial slurs, they have perfected their tilt game far beyond that. You need to learn to selectively mute these people. The second you see something you don't like, you mute. You don't talk, you don't tell them how you feel, they aren't there to be your friend, they were made in some lab to try and get a reaction strong enough to get account banned. They are sick minded people, and you must mute and deny them the only thing they want, an effect on your life. Now, once you reach Diamond 3 or so you should be good. Diamond 4-5 imo is still full of fake diamonds, people who know they aren't good enough to climb further basically. Those people have been stuck at Diamond probably for 3 seasons. They want to try and bring you down into the final elo hell there is. You will have to selectively mute them as well. Once you get beyond that though it's a bunch of nice and humble people. Unless you run into Hashinshin.
Salron (NA)
: nah lowering barrel duration is a smart change to make his laning less oppressive against melees I just don't get why the nerf carries on into the rest of the game
Now you're contradicting your own OP. I think we are done here.
: Why is this game still so popular?
Stop complaining about skins. It's a business. They are going to make skins that make money most the time, and sometimes that aligns with what the small portion of community that complains nonstop on this board wants. You're comments on game balance are hilarious. Zoe has to full combo E+Q+R+AA to do any sort of oneshot and she has to have a large gold adv. Nidalee can Q+R+W+AA(proc electrocute)+Q+E+AA all in the same time and do much more damage at earlier levels with no gold advantage. Sounds like you don't know how to play Nidalee because she's a feast or famine early game champ. You get ahead and your Q will do as much as a Zoe full combo. TLDR: You're a noob, do us all a favor and uninstall.
GripaAviara (EUNE)
: If the boards can't see a problem in veigar
NO NO NO, its Zoe who is broke. xdxdxdxd. Veigar is much stronger in low elo for you guys. I suggest banning him or Xerath.
: The truth hurts about skins
Taliyah is getting a very good skin in July, courtesy of SSG Crown.
: Someone should make and post this meme :P
Taliyah is getting an SSG Skin in July.
Salron (NA)
: @Riot Why are you nerfing GP's mid-lategame
gp is overperforming in late game xd. every lcs team is firstpick/ban/counterpick him every game and going solely for a scaling comp. that being said, reducing his barrel duration is not going to do anything but remove free vision in small areas. the scurvy change is a big one and going to make his early game sustain more difficult. to the person posting about zed...zed is poor in the current meta. also this "buff" does nothing but reduce his ult cd at max level. its not significant enough for you to probably even notice in your bronze/silver games. Now, Talon got some good buffs, so you better move that onto your permaban list if you wanna keep that 1.3 KDA u got on Lux above 1:1.
hotarse (NA)
: Hey, if you believe some people, Lux is a better version of Zoe, and it's absurd for anyone to say that Zoe is OP. lmao.
> [{quoted}](name=hotarse,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AUEA2Bol,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2018-02-08T14:46:55.691+0000) > > Hey, if you believe some people, Lux is a better version of Zoe, and it&#x27;s absurd for anyone to say that Zoe is OP. lmao. Well Lux is better than Zoe by the numbers in Low-elo. More so now than ever with nerf. She has more poke in lane and more reliable damage output in team fights. Zoe is very hit or miss in low-elo because people can't hit their skills as reliably in pressure situations. The good players in Diamond+ can though. Zoe is kind of an assassin champ imo. She's very useful at getting picks and getting backline but you have to hit your combo's or you are not doing anything. Meanwhile, most crit building adcs can 4-5 shot front line with 3 items. I hope League does form more champions in the way of Zoe. She's very unique and very fun to play. She's flashy, all or nothing, and mechanically diverse. I think if she proves to be too powerful in a few patches, her nerfs should be focused on how slippery she is. Similar to a Vayne or an Ahri I find the most annoying thing about these champs to not be their CC or crazy burst but how easily they can just get out of a lot of bad positions they put themselves in. I also think shields need to be significantly nerfed as they remove chances for outplay.
Rioter Comments
Kazc44 (EUW)
: Skins for champs like taliyah and sol
Rito is a business, and for the most part they do a good job of satisfying their customers creative desires. Taliyah is getting an SSG skin in the summer that will be very good quality.
Rioter Comments
: Whelp... Tracker's Knife and Skirmisher's Sabre are gone on the PBE.
yup this can't be good. game is losing more and more agency. riot better listen up or it will be a swift death for their business.
: Did I deserve it? Where was I in the wrong?
I feel sorry for you dude. You definitely didn't deserve anything, as others have said "its only a chat ban" those lead to further suspensions. Next thing you know, you go afk because your internet goes down for 10min and you have a 14day, or you go 6-11 and get reported for int by pre-made and you have a 14day. The system is automated and nobody reviews your chats unless a support ticket is opened. Riot has decided that it is in their economical best interest to punish people like you within the confines of this system, keep that in mind. Don't believe what anyone says about it being a community thing, its an economics thing, although I personally have no data or research to determine the motive yet. 1 thing I do know for certain is that a threshold of reports has to be hit in order for a chat to be run through their system. Enemy team chats are not valued. So if you know/feel you may have been reported in recent games, your account is at much higher risk of being audited by the system. You could open a support ticket, it's pretty hit or miss. Really depends on who you talk to. Some people on the support team will look at the context of your chat and see how it built up slowly from a frustrating situation that was being escalated by your team and not you. Some will not look at it this way, and you will not receive any sort of help. My advice for the future: mute all. It's only human to react in a defensive way when being accused/being harassed. Despite what everyone in this pseudo-pc community seems to believe, the natural instinct for anyone but a sociopath or someone with strong self-confidence is to vocalize a defense when under duress in a social situation(LOL chat), rather than run from it(mute). It's one of the most team based communicative games, which means its sucks to do this and you are going to have to suffer through several games of inevitable loss going through the motions due to lack of cooperation. Also means you will have to use your pings much more efficiently in hopes to keep these experiences at a minimum possible. Do not spam ping at your elo, people will ignore you. Also, do good in the game or they will ignore you as well. I would advise you not to erroneously think you can handle the chat better in the future. You will eventually be worn down to a breaking point. Everyone wants to blame everyone but themselves and be as impactful as possible in this community...keep in mind its by majority coddled entitled millennials playing this game. Basically, they simply want to justify their beliefs that it is "your" fault to the furthest degree possible, and that degree in League is to give a report that will get an instant feedback validating their beliefs that you were the sole reason of detriment to their game experience. From a psychological perspective as well, its very rewarding for someone to have the option to "report" its a way of venting and offloading the burden of failure that was just experienced. Also, giving players an instant feedback report confirmation note or whatever it is, also naturally releases dopamine in the brain, which basically trains the brain into naturally wanting to do it again to get to that reward of neuro-chemical bliss. That's basically how you get the cesspool of chat/troll that is bronze. Anyways, there is no logic with them, they are sick children really, warped by culture/circumstance. That's why I advise not engaging in chat, and cutting it off at the stem with mute-all. If for whatever reason this predicament worsens and the worst happens, simply make another account. It's what most of people do. The .006% they state to you is a completely warped statistic. In actuality, it's pretty close to 1/3. Almost 1/3 of players who have created a League of Legends account have received a permanent ban at some point in their career. No other game has this sort of system in place, so do not feel out of place if you do receive this eventually. If you happened to purchase RP on said account and there is no way of recovering it to be viewable or playable, I advise you contact your financial institution and put forth a chargeback. Despite League of Legends ToS stating you forfeit these rights, there is nothing they can do legally to contest this because (without referencing some legal terms and statutes I'm not privy to knowing off the top of my head) its basically bullshit. Riot Games has an abysmal F rating by the BBB, and for good reason. I wish you the best of luck on the rift bud, just try to keep a cool head, realize you are better than the people flaming you and focus on getting really good with "your" game. I found it best to play around the people basically in low elo. You gotta like see if they are going to full on commit to something or not, then go with it yourself. Don't expect anything out of them in terms of following up or providing certain mechanical outplays.
Chermorg (NA)
: Um, in my opinion if I'm leashing and the jungler fails to smite properly *that is not my fault*. I'm trying to do them a favor and leash it as long as possible so they have the health and mana to continue their jungle pathing. There's an icon on the buff meter that shows you how much damage your smite will do... and the health bar of the camp is pretty obvious. If the jungler can't smite properly, that's not my fault. People blaming the jungler isn't good, but the jungler also shouldn't go blaming others.
> [{quoted}](name=Chermorg,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=q6mwER31,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-02-01T18:48:28.839+0000) > > Um, in my opinion if I&#x27;m leashing and the jungler fails to smite properly *that is not my fault*. I&#x27;m trying to do them a favor and leash it as long as possible so they have the health and mana to continue their jungle pathing. There&#x27;s an icon on the buff meter that shows you how much damage your smite will do... and the health bar of the camp is pretty obvious. If the jungler can&#x27;t smite properly, that&#x27;s not my fault. > > People blaming the jungler isn&#x27;t good, but the jungler also shouldn&#x27;t go blaming others. ??? Taking a Jungler's first buff should be a reportable offense beyond beginner levels. It's literally int. In what braindead world do you live where it would ever be the JUNGLERS fault. As a laner, you walk away when its at 200-400 HP, no questions asked. It happens in pro play, it happens in solo que, it happens in my fucking noob friends bellylint 5 blind pick A-sol Garen bot lane duo games. And you're supposed to be an "advisor" to the game...jesus fucking christ.

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