Pika Fox (NA)
: This isnt an MMO where the thing the tank is attacking is dumb enough to just focus the tank only all fight, you literally cannot have a tank do 0 damage in a PvP game and succeed. You would make tanks completely unplayable by default, especially since, you know, they kinda need to lane against something. If they cant threaten their lane opponent, what do you think will happen?
i remember some fond times in my mmo days. in 1 of the games i played they had a set that reduced dmg dealt by 90% but gave a huge boost to hp and a hefty dmg reduction. sadly the set didn't reduce healing so it broke the Templars/paladins.
: I loved Sightstone, but I don't know if it should be in the game again. I hate the new quest system though. The reason Sightstone was removed because it was too good. Solo laners in pro play were building it. Anybody that argues that the new vision items are worth it when fully upgraded is kidding themselves. Ruby Sightstone gave +500 health and 20% CD on all active ability items. The new support items can't hold a candle to that. Supports rarely fully upgrade their vision item anymore. Riot's philosophy is that you can't make support items too good otherwise they begin to be "abused" in other lanes. So instead of taking time to address this fundamental issue, they make changes so that such items are unappealing to solo laners. They made bot lane so volatile when they instituted the changes because Sightstone was the gate that kept mage supports in check. They had to make a choice between safety or immediately buying AP, and now they get both. The other support who was a non-mage would almost always grab Sightstone first which granted +150 health. Mages are so oppressive bot lane now as a result, and that needs to be addressed. We're even starting to see duo mages bot. Vision is still so important though. Sometimes games are won and lost based solely on someone other than the support willing to spend 75 gold on a control ward.
tbh right now tank supports are the only ones punished in income if they don't fully upgrade their item. it sucks because ap and enchanter supports income is maxed out at stage 2 instead of 3
Ekhasm (NA)
: Tanks should be doing 0 damage
the only time i've done half of my victim's hp as alistar is if i throw everything including the kitchen sink at them
: Can you get anniversary rewards from bot games?
anything that isn't a custom game counts
: Anyone has fun playing against master Yi?
using any fears when he ults and get a good chuckle as he runs from outer to inner turret before the fear wears off
: Some Concerning Observations About Gameplay
you're being too generous with that time if they focusing the tank with cc and dmg
: Old Taric Looks More Fun To Play...
tbh old taric was unhealthy and boring because he was just a stat stick and if he wasn't support he was top as the ultimate healing tank because self casting q doubled the healing he received
Xavanic (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Lost R,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hu8Esf7j,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-19T18:09:11.105+0000) > > You... do realize that other junglers do that all the fucking time? other junglers cant steal a buff from you when its near full health
-laughs in {{champion:20}} q {{summoner:11}} combo-
Nhika (NA)
: I want a Zilean rework.
tbh any stun with that amount of tenacity would be short af
Lost R (NA)
: Umm, no? Last night my team jumped on an Illaoi and she ulted us. Everyone died except me (Support Ornn), and I tanked all five tentacles hitting me repeatedly PLUS Illaoi, and I eventually managed to drop her, and still had half my health. Besides, Garen's spin is now considered an on-hit attack and procs Thornmail.
i wish the spin was an on hit spell because i've tried it with {{item:3124}} and it didn't stack at all
Mr Tyson (NA)
: I haven't been punished for anything btw. Edit: Haven't left any games either.Edit: Haven't typed anything(maybe baron) either. No toxicity. The only thing tilting me is you guys doing nothing but typing in game.
well from my time playing this on a laptop on it's last leg it would power off alot and the worst punishment i had from afk was a 1 day suspension
Mr Tyson (NA)
: League might have the most psychopathic community ever.
i ruined 4 other players experience on a round because i didn't want to play with them why am i getting low priority que? {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
Mikie74 (NA)
: Alcove is a bad idea becuzzz
engage supports are going to cheese alot with this
: Boots need to be updated
idk if we should bring back boot enchantments i still remember a janna and karma leading 3 juggernauts with the leader enchants and {{item:2065}} previous forms into my team from my first season on this game {{sticker:sg-ahri-1}}
GigglesO (NA)
: With all the negative talk about next season
i also like the mountain soul everybody gets a malph passive that scales with ad/ap/ and bonus hp
: Only people whose accounts are 10 years or older should be able to get all 10 rewards
the problem with this is you're either a "newbie" or some guy that got banned. tbh idk a single account that was active during then that wasn't either banned or someone gave up on
stoyo8 (NA)
: Please tell me there is more to the preseason
i have a feeling that the runes they listed weren't all the changed runes
: The Support Item changes: Good or Bad?
tbh the support changes for the upgrade sound good i just hope they don't lower the hp on {{item:3401}} anymore due to the hybrid stat thing being introduced
: Mundo's Ult?
where was your support during this if the kiting vayne got killed by him?
: A month or two ago, many people were saying this game was dead
the only thing related to the game itself was urf other than that it was announcing spinoffs. the series and it's universe isn't dead, but the game that started it has seen better days
: {{item:3311}} Was because {{champion:28}} was using it in Jungle. (No. I'm not talking about the Jungle item/Support item exclusive patch; that came later) I was the pioneer of the Nomad's Ornn build :S. And {{item:3307}} is what I was referring to in the statement; In Season 7, Adcs were duo Relic shielding. The introduction of MELEE adcs to bot lane was a direct result of that nerf, and they figured out quickly that Yasuo could sub for an adc. Then it was nerfed again, to only activating within 2000 range of another ally.
well atleast it wasn't like in the earlier seasons where {{item:3302}} could proc on jungle monsters
: Or double {{item:3098}} , since there's now an AD build ST. Just don't farm. Poke with Caitlyn. Get the quest done, and then start building. Adcs/Supports can also decide whose a better farmer. If Morgana wants to wave clear, she can do so, while the adc sits back and trinkets. Wasn't this why they started nerfing support items?
{{item:3098}} was due to poke champs in solo lanes combined with klepto, and {{item:3301}} due to passive top lanes like orrn and shen
: Duo support bot NEW META?
double {{item:3302}} meta here we come!
94372148 (NA)
: Can we fucking just nerf assassins so that the game if fucking playable?
tbh it isn't a class problem that the game is suffering it's too much dmg in runes
Jikker (NA)
: Is no one gonna talk about URF?
the fast! {{champion:202}}
: Preseason 2020 Gameplay: Rise of the Elements
i'm curious to what is going to happen to the income procs since we won't be able to upgrade our items on demand, and upgrading them increased the income right now
: Lol i immediately though smash bros
> [{quoted}](name=WAZZZUP500,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Vcg4guG5,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-16T04:29:04.036+0000) > > Lol i immediately though smash bros same
Rioter Comments
: Preseason 2020 Gameplay: Rise of the Elements
i have a bad feeling about rengar when the ocean drake spawns {{sticker:sg-ahri-1}}
: Which champion has the most powerful ultimate buff?
either {{champion:12}}, {{champion:44}}, {{champion:10}}, {{champion:23}}, or {{champion:24}} (passive effect that is)
: 20% stat increase is tripple gold?
i'm talking about pyke ult and yuumi but ok
: Now that being tanky is no longer effective.
tbh it feels like the main problem tanks have is runes there's quite a bit of dmg in every rune tree, but outside of the resolve tree there is little to no defensive options
Juice (EUNE)
: So you're saying this secondary useless rune is as important as summoner spell? I have to play around this SECONDARY rune as I would have to play against Ignite? Does this person have to play around my Bone plating and Overgrowth (which gives me 100 hp in late game) or around my Demolish? Maybe around the 12 AD i get for killing 10 people in game ? Time warp tonic + corrupting potion is exact same thing as the old red pot cheese from season 3, it gives you damage AND HP boost to secure any all in, save you from tower dives, negate ignite damage, and not to mention it gives sustain to champs who's only weakness is lack of sustain. Once they have taken 3 shots of tonic I have to go back too, since I will probably be lower HP from all the trading and them outsustaining me throughout the whole thing.
tbh they should be paying attention to your bone plating and demolish. bone plating can throw off a rotation's dmg, and demolish can get tower plate gold quite easily
Kelg (NA)
: How does something like reworked Garen get through to live?
your talking about a balance team that let a skill that now triples kill gold and a champ that just attaches itself to allies into live. this isn't new
: tanks in current meta
pick oriented tanks or "tank" with an alternative build rip
: Remove garens tenacity.
even if the guy didn't use his split second tenacity he still used both tenacity runes available so what were you expecting with a 1 second root
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: August 23
of course those rotating games modes are going to do well since they're the only game modes that get rotation time
: The Amazing World of Gumball is the only good cartoon left
i think the main reason that is is because cartoon network banishes the new shows to early mornings or during school hours
: Update On Nubrac's Ban
i think it's kind of weird they say it's bannable to leave an adc alone yet i'm getting notes that i should roam more and we got {{item:3117}} to help with it. what happened since September that made high elo as unwarded, and easily punishable as the other elos
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: ADCs aren't weak, but I finally understood why people think they are
i agree on most points, but you say adcs don't need farm/push/wave control knowledge to lane and then complained about getting ganked lvl 2 by the camile/nid making you burn flash
: My favorite part of fighting Vayne
whatever happened to bringing a skill shot champ with {{item:3364}} to mess her up?
: I like how dmg is so high, I can get destroyed by a player 3 divisions lower than me.
no armor against a lethality stacking pantheon, and you wonder why it only took a few attacks to kill you?
GigglesO (NA)
: Armor pen is causing this damage meta....
that's alot of armor with only 900 extra hp built so what is that armor protecting?
: I just heard new players default MMR is now iron
you get to see what ranked you can be just from the 1st placement match. i'm thinking what they mean is you start off placements in iron and can go up based on placements
: > [{quoted}](name=SnugglePuggle94,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nBwfKXVg,comment-id=00160000000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-06T21:36:01.985+0000) > > Champions just delete right through that armor anyway so it barely helps. > > You can't do that when you have 3 or more enemies coming for you and your ADC at the same time. Actual supports have real disengage tools to be able to get away from multiple, if not all enemies. > > And it's true. Pyke is a frustrating pile of shit just like Neeko will be. Pyke doesn't delete through armor. " Actual supports have real disengage tools to be able to get away from multiple, if not all enemies." This is not true. Pre-6 supports Alistar: Can push 1 with W and stuns the other one with Q (stun 2 with Q while getting chased is unreliable), E unreliable you gotta stay in kill range for too long. The result -- 1 enemy left Bard: can stun a max of 2, The result -- 1 enemy left Braum: Q slows 1 target, The result -- 2 enemies left Janna: Q can hit 1-2 enemies depending on who you target, The result -- 1 if you target botlane, 2 if you target the jungler. Karma: Can speed boost multiple allies pre-6 gets you to safety. Leone: Q stuns 1 and E another but you end up behind enemy lines, The result -- 1-2 enemies depending if you want to sacrifice or not. Lulu: Q slows for 80 decaying over 2sec. and you can hit 1-2 depending on who you target and W polymorphs 1 of them, The result -- at least 1 enemy. Morgana: Q stuns 1 of them, The result -- 2 enemies left. Nami: Q stuns 1-2, you either stun the jungler or try to stun both the supp and adc, The result -- 1-2 enemies left. Rakan: personal favorite, you can go in with W stun the enemy botlane and E into safety, this one can get away from multiple enemies too. Sona: no stuns, 1 slow on her E, The result -- 3 enemies left. Soraka: Q slow 30% not a lot, E silence (root unreliable takes 1.5 seconds to actually root you), The result -- 1-2 enemies left. Tahm Kench: can eat you and run away so can get you to safety. Taric: E stun can hit 1-2 enemies depending on who you target, The result -- 1-2 enemies left. Thresh: Q hook and E flay can possibly get you both to safety. Zilean: Q stun is unreliable (you gotta land 2 bombs on top of each other), E slow can hit 1, The result -- 1-2 enemies left. Now Pyke, Q stuns 1 and E can hit 1-2 enemies depending on your exit path, The result 1-2 enemies left. See how there are only a few real supports who can disengage from all enemies pre-6?? Now stop calling champions "frustrating pile of shit" just because you don't know how to play against them.
for taric's e you got to take into consideration of the dual cast because you can get a full team with it
: So, tell me How is {{champion:53}} gonna help you escape from {{champion:266}} {{champion:120}} {{champion:69}} {{champion:81}} {{champion:12}}
from past experience you will only be able to delay 2 but that involves a suicide
saltran (EUW)
: I kinda dislike him because usually the Pykes I get are like afk in lane and do nothing. But having worse kda because he gets kills? That's the most irrelevant fact about Pyke lmao, why do you guys care about that.
i dislike him because every time i pick him the enemy support usually picks braum, alistar, tahm kench, or zilean. a lot of times my adc wants me to engage when the minions are in between us, and my e would put me in tower radius.
: Neeko is surprisingly fun to play against
i can't wait to link a neeko with my w as taric and she transforms into me so that we can have double gem beam
: Let's talk about nerfing veigar (hello riot)
the key is to win before he stacks too much but ofc that's going to be hard on aram since it's always a 5v5 and his box being very big for the map
: > [{quoted}](name=meowwow7,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fwaW5jxb,comment-id=00000002,timestamp=2018-12-05T16:23:22.669+0000) > > for a better outcome go ap on zed. he has no cc, and i'm pretty sure none of his abilities have ap scaling {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}} No because bronze cant handle zed Plus it has to be an actual build even if its subpar Full ap jayce spamming melee w?
> [{quoted}](name=KABLUMP,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fwaW5jxb,comment-id=000000020000,timestamp=2018-12-05T16:25:01.797+0000) > > No because bronze cant handle zed > > Plus it has to be an actual build even if its subpar > > > Full ap jayce spamming melee w? crap i forgot bronze exe crashed when a zed's in game so yeah jayce outside of top should do
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