: Getting perma banned was the best thing that ever happened to me
I am not permabanned but I know the feels. I only play this game anytime a friend wants to play but other than that, I've stopped playing. The game is fun but it is very tilting because of the way it's so snowbally, not saying snowball is a bad thing but it can tilt players who are losing. But that's how the game always was, that if you did good you snowball and if you did bad you have a hard time and I think that's how it should work. But I've been so stressed playing this game mainly because the random people I play with want to rage quit after having a bad game or they troll. And then you got people saying that you are blaming others when you should look at yourself since it's probably your fault you lost. But they forget that this is a team game and your teammates actually impact your wins and losses just as much as you do if not more. I've moved on to playing games like monster hunter, street fighter, borderlands which have been a much better experience. I don't have to worry about trolls, feeders, afk rage quiters because at the end of the day, it only affects them but for me I get rewarded for playing good. I don't have to lose because somebody pulls me down.
rujitra (NA)
: You are making it about your skill level/rank. You are claiming that you're "so much better" than these other players and their ragequitting is stopping you from climbing. If you're unwilling to accept that you're wrong when you say things like "only me and 1 other player had the same skill level and everyone else was shit", and if you're going to continue obviously lying by contradicting yourself multiple times, there's no point to me continuing to respond. Have a nice day.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=2ULTAvch,comment-id=0001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-05T20:45:47.344+0000) > > You are making it about your skill level/rank. > > You are claiming that you're "so much better" than these other players and their ragequitting is stopping you from climbing. > > If you're unwilling to accept that you're wrong when you say things like "only me and 1 other player had the same skill level and everyone else was shit", and if you're going to continue obviously lying by contradicting yourself multiple times, there's no point to me continuing to respond. Have a nice day. please quote in the opening where i said anything about climbing? Also, how could i be complaining about climbing.... IF IM PLAYING A NORMAL GAME? does playing normal climb a person up the ranks? Are you kidding me? I thought you as a specialist would understand this and not need it to be stated. There is a thing called mmr and because of that, 2 iron players could have extremely different mmr. The skill difference between two bronze players could be immense because one person can get iron by default just for playing ranked but is not good at the game at all, while another iron could actually be a whole lot better than the former who just got iron by default. The point why i ever pointed out about me being better than my ranked is not to cry about me deserving a higher rank no. It's about, if i have such a higher skill, why am i playing against and with people in a normal game who seem like they just started playing yesterday. I can tell you how bad each player in that game played and why they all seemed like a new player. Kassadin on the enemy team, how did he play like a new player? He literally keeps walking up to me in my w e q range. I would proc electrocute on him and drop him down to half hp. After doing so, he walks back to his turret, then after a second, he walks back up as if he didn't know what just happened. So i literally wait another 15-18 seconds when my shadow is off cooldown, i walk up combo again, then switch to my shadow and proc pass and ignite for kill or ult. Obviously this kass just didnt know what they were doing or else they would realize, hey i lost half my health in 1 combo, i only have half left so i should play safe and not get comboed again or im dead. But no, the kass was like, hey that hurt but im still alive with half hp so its k, then dies. A player around my skill level as a kass would farm cs with his q at a safe distance or farm under turret and always try to stay out of my w e q ranged. A player around my skill level will not stay up and die if they have half health and literally lost half their health from 1 eletrocute combo from me as zed. I can tell you the other players and why they were like new players but i want to say you understand what i am saying. Point is, i shouldnt be having 8 players extremely below my skill level. I can understand 1 or 2 slipping in, but when 8 of them are playing like new players while im very seasoned, it's just kind of dumb.
rujitra (NA)
: If you haven't played ranked since Season 4, how do you know the current rank/skill connection? You have a lot of contradictory statements here.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=2ULTAvch,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-05T20:36:51.295+0000) > > If you haven't played ranked since Season 4, how do you know the current rank/skill connection? > > You have a lot of contradictory statements here. this board is not even a debate about what rank i am or that i deserve to be higher rank. One of the points in my board was about how i got put into a game where only me and heimerdinger had about the same skill level and all other 8 people were playing at the level of players who barely started playing league. That was not the only issue i had. The bigger issue i had was that someone rage quit and left us and ruined the game. I don't give a shit about climbing and reaching challenger or whatever you think i want, i just want a good game where every player in the game is around the same skill level relatively and people stop rage quitting. That is the biggest point. Do you have anything to say about that or are you just gonna keep trying to say i cant climb because im where im supposed to be even tho this board post is not about me thinking i deserve to be in a higher rank.
rujitra (NA)
: No you don't. You **think** you should be ranked higher. That's not true, or else you would be. People can climb from Iron IV to their actual rank in a matter of **weeks** when they deserve to. If you deserved to be higher, you would be.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=2ULTAvch,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-09-05T20:25:00.896+0000) > > No you don't. > > You **think** you should be ranked higher. That's not true, or else you would be. People can climb from Iron IV to their actual rank in a matter of **weeks** when they deserve to. If you deserved to be higher, you would be. i actually know for a fact because i actually have other accounts with a higher rank the fuck? This account i dont even play ranked, i just play this account with my friends. The whole point about the rank thing is that i know im a lot better than the people in that last game i played, but everyone on here will be like "but yous a bronze". So i just wanted to point out that im actually a lot better than what my rank says because i actually have other accounts at a higher rank when i actually did try to play ranked. But just nowadays i dont ever play ranked. I havent played ranked since season 4 and i only played provisions on this account for ranked with my friend a few months back because i got tired of people in normals and wondered if i played rank if people would actually play better and less reckless.
Jamaree (NA)
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=2ULTAvch,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-05T20:12:58.944+0000) > > Neither of those will never not be a thing, uninstall now if you agree with me, can you kindly upvote this post?
: > I am very skilled for my rank Oh, lord. This is like teenagers that say, "I'm very mature." Try a little bit of humility, dude. I'm Gold 2, and all that means is I'm a little less mediocre than a lot of people.
> [{quoted}](name=GatekeeperTDS,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=2ULTAvch,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-09-05T20:18:33.214+0000) > > Oh, lord. This is like teenagers that say, "I'm very mature." Try a little bit of humility, dude. I'm Gold 2, and all that means is I'm a little less mediocre than a lot of people. what i meant by this is that, whether i am unranked or iron or bronze, i know for a fact im a lot better than what my rank is so dont be decieved by this. Plus i have other accounts of a higher rank. The thing is, the people who i was playing against and those on my team, it's as if they've just started playing league last month while ive been playing for years. The skill gap is huge. It's just a huge wtf because it would be like a diamond going against a gold player, it would make no sense at all.
Rioter Comments
: when you ban people for flaming they get smarter and start afking. (for example if my jungler suicide on my lane early on, instead of flaming i'll just alt f4 and move on onto another account) you supported the earlier you get the later, so you have no right to complain, enjoy league of afkers now
> [{quoted}](name=alwaysperma16,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=APKayAh8,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-09-03T06:57:02.851+0000) > > when you ban people for flaming they get smarter and start afking. (for example if my jungler suicide on my lane early on, instead of flaming i'll just alt f4 and move on onto another account) > > you supported the earlier you get the later, so you have no right to complain, > > enjoy league of afkers now I'm so confused. I supported the earlier? What do you mean? How do I not have a right to complain? I'm so lost
: I meant here on the boards. The Mods don't tolerate elo shaming.
> [{quoted}](name=MiracleMorg94,realm=NA,application-id=GgNYATV4,discussion-id=h5UiWEEl,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-09-03T18:54:29.530+0000) > > I meant here on the boards. The Mods don't tolerate elo shaming. it's not really elo shaming for the purpose of elo shaming. It's just me saying that they shouldn't be even saying others are bad if they aren't even good. It's the same as saying someone shouldn't be calling others racist when they are racist too. Am I racist shaming? Furthermore, I am not saying what their name is so it shouldnt even be a problem.
: > [{quoted}](name=miightofdemacia,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=zdIc1FAo,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-03T01:28:49.768+0000) > > yeah but it's usually downvotes on posts that arent even that bad, or no upvotes at all. It's like a lot of people on league boards just downvote or never upvote. Only very few get upvoted and only those posts with a lot of upvotes get more upvotes. honestly upvoting/downvoting takes too much erg honestly i rather just get my voice out instead of "ninja" downvoting. only cowards do that.
> [{quoted}](name=Corrector1,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=zdIc1FAo,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-03T01:31:48.520+0000) > > honestly upvoting/downvoting takes too much erg honestly i rather just get my voice out instead of "ninja" downvoting. only cowards do that. ive written a lot of board posts and they are always downvotes no matter if its nice or not. If it's really nice, it gets basically no upvotes. If it's neutral or ranty, it always gets 1 or 2 downvotes. Idk it just makes me feel like most people on here just love to downvote or not vote at all. They only upvote if it's really good post i guess?
: > [{quoted}](name=miightofdemacia,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=zdIc1FAo,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-09-03T01:22:43.778+0000) > > You know what is funny? The board community. I complain and talk about a bad game I had, about how someone literally trolled and ruined the game, yet i get downvoted lol. its just only 1 (so far) i had those people also.
> [{quoted}](name=Corrector1,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=zdIc1FAo,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-03T01:26:12.260+0000) > > its just only 1 (so far) i had those people also. yeah but it's usually downvotes on posts that arent even that bad, or no upvotes at all. It's like a lot of people on league boards just downvote or never upvote. Only very few get upvoted and only those posts with a lot of upvotes get more upvotes.
: Yup. Nobody likes those people.
> [{quoted}](name=Telephone Booth,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=zdIc1FAo,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-28T02:01:49.136+0000) > > Yup. Nobody likes those people. You know what is funny? The board community. I complain and talk about a bad game I had, about how someone literally trolled and ruined the game, yet i get downvoted lol.
Rioter Comments
: Gotta love the players like that -.- Anyway still not nice for you to elo shame him and say he sucks. That's just as reportable as well.
> [{quoted}](name=MiracleMorg94,realm=NA,application-id=GgNYATV4,discussion-id=h5UiWEEl,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-08-29T13:28:03.077+0000) > > Gotta love the players like that -.- > > Anyway still not nice for you to elo shame him and say he sucks. That's just as reportable as well. well i didnt say he sucks in game. i literally wrote nothing to him. I just said he sucks on the post because that's my opinion on him. He was bad so he had no place to call others bad and shame others or rage quit and sit at base doing nothing
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Terozu (NA)
: I believe they release the sales schedule monthly?
> [{quoted}](name=Terozu,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=P5mNgmYQ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-11T15:20:34.630+0000) > > I believe they release the sales schedule monthly? ohh do you have a link? where do i find that sale schedule monthly?
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Kirika (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=miightofdemacia,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4mApabKK,comment-id=0021,timestamp=2019-06-25T22:54:18.704+0000) > > I hate pike. Guy can go invis to run away, and if he is out of sight will regen a large portion of his grey health and negate a lot of damage sustained. If you try to catch him, you have to worry for him turning around to hook you or stunning you because he has an omni-direction dash that not only puts a gap between you and him, but leaves a trail that stuns anyone on it? Like what? That's so stupid. I don't even want to get started on how bs and stupidly overloaded his ult is since i just want to talk about champs with too much mobility or escape. Akali also being another dumb champ that has too much escape or stall in their kit. Akali can do a smoke screen and if you don't have aoe and aim correct, you cannot hit her. Then she has an ability to throw a kunai and that projects her backward similar to caitlyn e and a stun ult similar to pikes dash stun. Fun fact: Pykes movespeed in his stealth got buffed hard...from 40 on all ranks scaling up to 60% at level 5. Cheers rito
> [{quoted}](name=Kirika,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4mApabKK,comment-id=00210000,timestamp=2019-06-26T08:38:00.973+0000) > > Fun fact: Pykes movespeed in his stealth got buffed hard...from 40 on all ranks scaling up to 60% at level 5. Cheers rito Wow.... Let me guess... He wasn't escaping enough so they want him to be harder to catch while already stealthed... despite having a dash that also stuns. facepalm
: > [{quoted}](name=miightofdemacia,realm=NA,application-id=GgNYATV4,discussion-id=q0i7oUEP,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-24T17:33:41.615+0000) > > LOL care to share your experiences with them? People are way more stubborn and cocky there just because of the fact that they think they are really good now that they have reached plat or diamond. Like so many times I've seen top laners still try to stay in lane with 5% hp and teleport ready just because they think they are safe under turret and when you ask them to back they will ignore until they get dove and they keep making the same mistake. This is just EUW on EUNE server this is 10 times worse in the same elos
> [{quoted}](name=thepowerlies,realm=EUW,application-id=GgNYATV4,discussion-id=q0i7oUEP,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-27T20:31:23.392+0000) > > People are way more stubborn and cocky there just because of the fact that they think they are really good now that they have reached plat or diamond. Like so many times I've seen top laners still try to stay in lane with 5% hp and teleport ready just because they think they are safe under turret and when you ask them to back they will ignore until they get dove and they keep making the same mistake. This is just EUW on EUNE server this is 10 times worse in the same elos Wow that seems terrible to play with. Not only do they die, they lose gold, exp, and possibly even tower.
Rioter Comments
: Passive shield is kinda strong, mostly an issue in laning phase
> [{quoted}](name=WAZZZUP500,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4mApabKK,comment-id=000800010000,timestamp=2019-06-25T22:37:22.446+0000) > > Passive shield is kinda strong, mostly an issue in laning phase yasuo's wind shield passive is really annoying I have to agree. It negates a lot of damage and you have to wait till it disappears or drain it down before you can actually start doing damage. So as zed, I can't just keep poking him with q that I actually have to aim, I have to first throw a q to break his shield and hope he doesnt run back and start charging it again, while I wait for q to be off cooldown again and hope I don't waste too much energy. The same can be said with other champs minus adcs who have constant ranged auto attack damage. But then you also gotta worry about yasuo's bs windwall and all the dashes he can do onto your minions to get to you. Idk, i mean yasuo does take skill, but quite irritating to play against. I also do think some champs are naturally too beefy such as garen, darius, irelia who have a decent amount of damage in their kit.
Reksee (NA)
: Opinion: More Mobility does not make the game fun
I hate pike. Guy can go invis to run away, and if he is out of sight will regen a large portion of his grey health and negate a lot of damage sustained. If you try to catch him, you have to worry for him turning around to hook you or stunning you because he has an omni-direction dash that not only puts a gap between you and him, but leaves a trail that stuns anyone on it? Like what? That's so stupid. I don't even want to get started on how bs and stupidly overloaded his ult is since i just want to talk about champs with too much mobility or escape. Akali also being another dumb champ that has too much escape or stall in their kit. Akali can do a smoke screen and if you don't have aoe and aim correct, you cannot hit her. Then she has an ability to throw a kunai and that projects her backward similar to caitlyn e and a stun ult similar to pikes dash stun.
: yeah, when I play mid or top, it happens all the time too. Too many low elo junglers are obsessed with counter jungling, not know that it doesn't do anything in low elo. In low elo just clear and gank.....counter jungling is too risky and you'll rarely get support from you team if you get caught. Better to gank lanes and keep your team from quitting on you, then to counter jungle.
> [{quoted}](name=Buckeye2002,realm=NA,application-id=GgNYATV4,discussion-id=tLokTifA,comment-id=00000001000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-25T18:14:29.195+0000) > > yeah, when I play mid or top, it happens all the time too. Too many low elo junglers are obsessed with counter jungling, not know that it doesn't do anything in low elo. In low elo just clear and gank.....counter jungling is too risky and you'll rarely get support from you team if you get caught. Better to gank lanes and keep your team from quitting on you, then to counter jungle. Agreed. I honestly don't see how people think getting raptors is better than your bot lane getting killed by their adc, support, and jungle and then they take your bot tower. but worth cuz you got raptors right? LOL
KingMufu (EUNE)
: Trollers
I don't condone trolling when I say this but it's way too hard to ban or punish someone without a clear pattern of them having the intent to lose. The biggest problem is that there's no official rules about how to actually play league other than what the community has been saying where you have to have 1 top, 1 mid, 1 jungle, 1 support bot, 1 adc bot. But the thing is, that's not an actual rule and that's where a lot of issues lie. But you have to understand that the game is always evolving so riot doesn't want to completely shut down new ideas by banning anyone doing something different. If they did, we would never have junglers in the first place. Riot made jungle camps so that people can get extra gold and exp to catch up or to get a further lead, but not for a single champ to just farm those camps for laning phase. It was because people started trying out farming jungle to give solo exp/gold to top while getting their own gold exp from jungle that junglers eventually became a thing. If those people got banned for trying something new then we would never have a jungler role. If you want to say the game's been out so long and needs to have set roles as a rule, there are always new things being discovered. There was a time when funneling a jungler was really strong, but if you were to ban anyone from doing something weird then funnelers would have gotten banned for doing something out of the 1 tank top, 1 fighter jungle, 1 mage/assassin mid, 1 support bot, 1 adc bot. So again it's hard to ban someone because you can't just ban them for trying something new. Riot wants players to try new things out so the game is not stale and hence why they constantly patch the game making changes to champs and giving reworks to spice up the game. And I think it really does work. I'd get bored if I have to do the same thing over and over. Again, I don't condone trolling, but riot is at a bad spot if they ban anyone for doing something out of the norm unless they reach a pattern that the specific player is not trying their best to win and just purposely trying to make it harder for their teammates to win.
: Many mages are heavily nerfed in ARAM but they are still decent. ADC is the stongest class right now.
> [{quoted}](name=HP Crookshanks,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8HwOFezA,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-06-24T21:13:52.615+0000) > > Many mages are heavily nerfed in ARAM but they are still decent. ADC is the stongest class right now. Yeah I sorta agree with this that adcs are very strong in arams, They still have their squishy weakness but ive had very hard matches where the enemy has 2 or more adcs. I lost a game where there were 4 adcs and 1 diana while we had 2 tanks, 1 mage, 1 yummi, 1 jayce who was going more for the duskblade youmuu build instead of adc build. Those adcs all focus and rekt us as well as taking our towers easily.
: Mages have both +/-. Most mages usually have some sort of CC to either engage or disengage. Miss a skill shot and you are caught between a rock and a hard place. Also, a lot of mages have longer range than assassins, bruisers, and adc. This gives advantage to mages in aram in regards to kiting with their abilities. I agree that AD does more consistent dps, mages are more do short burst to zone out dmg dealers and by the time dmg dealers comes back, their cooldowns are back up again. When it comes to mana problems, either they aren't managing their abilities correctly or just trying to harass or poke. There are items and runes to help them. On the sorcery rune, manaflow band might help with mana consumption but doesn't give defensive bonus like nullify orb. {{item:3802}} also helps. AOE + CC and/or heals + shields
> [{quoted}](name=Ramen Tank,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8HwOFezA,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-06-24T21:31:48.056+0000) > > Mages have both +/-. Most mages usually have some sort of CC to either engage or disengage. Miss a skill shot and you are caught between a rock and a hard place. Also, a lot of mages have longer range than assassins, bruisers, and adc. This gives advantage to mages in aram in regards to kiting with their abilities. > I agree that AD does more consistent dps, mages are more do short burst to zone out dmg dealers and by the time dmg dealers comes back, their cooldowns are back up again. > When it comes to mana problems, either they aren't managing their abilities correctly or just trying to harass or poke. There are items and runes to help them. On the sorcery rune, manaflow band might help with mana consumption but doesn't give defensive bonus like nullify orb. {{item:3802}} also helps. > > > AOE + CC and/or heals + shields All of this sounds pretty good and I can see mages doing a lot better in higher skill games. Sigh, I'm just in those games where most players, maybe even myself, don't know how to utilize a mage properly and feel underwhelming especially in arams where all in teamfights happen often.
: Assassins are generally the weakest in ARAM. Mages are all over the board. Some are great. Others not so great.
> [{quoted}](name=BigBellBrute,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8HwOFezA,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-06-24T21:42:08.773+0000) > > Assassins are generally the weakest in ARAM. Mages are all over the board. Some are great. Others not so great. Hmm are they? What about pike, yi, katarina though? (i know kat is kinda a mage, but i feel like they sorta fit the assassin bill) They seem to do really well especially pike and kat with their reset aoe ult. Rant Why the heck does riot think it's fair to give pike an aoe ult that resets... AND DOES TRUE DAMAGE? I dont even care if there is a wind up time. That is bs. Even darius you have to be close up, and have 5 stacks first, then your ult isn't even aoe. I'm not saying darius ult is weak, but pike's is like darius but a lot better.
Rewt (NA)
: All of those are ok, but lets be real here. Whens the last time you saw an Azir do anything other than be completely useless.
> [{quoted}](name=Rewt,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8HwOFezA,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-06-24T23:45:34.748+0000) > > All of those are ok, but lets be real here. Whens the last time you saw an Azir do anything other than be completely useless. lmao
: I can't take ARAM seriously. Nice game design, Rito. There's no rhyme nor reason to it. I keep expecting there to be some sort of strategy, but nope, it's jerk around mid for 20 minutes and the team that engages first usually loses. I still don't know what the acceptable strategies about dying for items are.
> [{quoted}](name=Jenna Bandelow,realm=NA,application-id=GgNYATV4,discussion-id=q0i7oUEP,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-25T00:28:31.999+0000) > > I can't take ARAM seriously. Nice game design, Rito. There's no rhyme nor reason to it. I keep expecting there to be some sort of strategy, but nope, it's jerk around mid for 20 minutes and the team that engages first usually loses. I still don't know what the acceptable strategies about dying for items are. lol yeah, it really depends on the champions you get. Some can poke a lot, some are strong in picking someone off, some are stronger in all in fights, and some are just really bad. I'm look at you ivern LOL
: Except if I try to imitate the twitchy pro player movements, then when I go to attack what I want to again, I end up clicking the wrong thing (or clicking the ground right in front of them, thereby running straight towards them when I didn't mean to, which can and does result in me - if not dying outright - being punished.
> [{quoted}](name=Jenna Bandelow,realm=NA,application-id=GgNYATV4,discussion-id=o5kAWVuP,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-24T23:32:30.052+0000) > > Except if I try to imitate the twitchy pro player movements, then when I go to attack what I want to again, I end up clicking the wrong thing (or clicking the ground right in front of them, thereby running straight towards them when I didn't mean to, which can and does result in me - if not dying outright - being punished. Yeah I get ya. It even happens to me sometimes even after all my practice, mistakes still happen. I just wish newer players didnt have to play adc because they are missing out on a lot of damage since they don't know how to attack and move while other champs are so easy and do so much damage. Aka garen, yi, nasus. Easy to play for beginners and very strong without the need to move in between attacks at a lower elo.
: I've seen a couple of Nasus players carry just by split pushing. It's been a close thing, one of those games being a base race between him and a Twisted Fate, but Nasus and Tryndamere are juuuust %%%% enough to get away with winning by themselves that way sometimes.
> [{quoted}](name=Jenna Bandelow,realm=NA,application-id=GgNYATV4,discussion-id=elj0oBha,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-25T00:53:53.145+0000) > > I've seen a couple of Nasus players carry just by split pushing. It's been a close thing, one of those games being a base race between him and a Twisted Fate, but Nasus and Tryndamere are juuuust %%%% enough to get away with winning by themselves that way sometimes. Yeah nasus can win, but what I'm saying is eventually, you get to the point where you can't even carry as nasus anymore. That's if you keep winning a lot cuz the system will keep trying to match you with higher skilled opponents while you win and give you lower skilled teammates. Slowly but surely until you eventually lose
: League matchmaking AI....
The matchmaking is terrible and puts you in unfair matchups often. The community has a lot of bad manners. The game is extremely unbalanced and some champs just have a larger total power budget than others. But the game is great and addicting :P
: Player Equality, Player Behavior, NB3...
First of all, nb3 did get punished now. Second, I agree with the part that streaming shouldn't even be a factor to ban on league. Third of all, Nubrac does this normally from what I'm told and does not just do it to rake in attention from streamers or target specifically big streamers. Fourth of all, why is this still being brought up when there are a bazillion posts about it already? Fifth of all, I hate pike and tahm kench, just delete them from league :P
JancevFTW (EUNE)
: This game is a fucking joke
i laughed at the tahm kench part LOL. It's funny because it's somewhat true.
: How Does Anyone Enjoy This Game In Its Current State?
I just play arams. It's a lot less frustrating and toxic if you compare it to summoner's rift. And since arams is faster pace, you get stronger faster as adc because you get gold a lot faster and start with more gold at the start. Much more enjoyable imo except you can't pick your own champ. That sometimes can be both a good and bad thing though.
Morbys (NA)
: They nerfed his support viability, they buffed his top lane viability, by a ton. People who say he isn't broken are delusional. He is broken, does he have counters, of course, but they aren't as strong against him as ppl think.
> [{quoted}](name=Morbys,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=d8a7cZz9,comment-id=001c0000,timestamp=2019-06-24T18:35:29.772+0000) > > They nerfed his support viability, they buffed his top lane viability, by a ton. People who say he isn't broken are delusional. He is broken, does he have counters, of course, but they aren't as strong against him as ppl think. Ah I see. I hate tahm kench lol. But they should also nerf/rework pike :P
Exin0 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=miightofdemacia,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8HwOFezA,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-24T18:29:19.611+0000) > > Yes definitely not all mages are bad. Zyra is also a very powerful mage imo. Huge damage and some cc. Idk, maybe it's just the elo im at in arams and the players playing mages are just not utilizing the mage to it's fullest. It is arams after all. And maybe the other classes I mentioned are more skill-friendly. Just hate having a team full of mages or 3 mages in arams, usually means high lose chance. They are loosing by attrition and until you complete tear you will go dry fast without option of replenishing, CD is same story and also mages need items to do damage they dont kill with only tome but assassin can with only dirk and biggest problem is MR is counter them hard they just cannot do anything to 4k hp MR tank who can just stright walk to them and kill. Generaly mages are reduced do CC bots while ADs do brunt of damage.
> [{quoted}](name=Exin0,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8HwOFezA,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-24T18:49:26.043+0000) > > They are loosing by attrition and until you complete tear you will go dry fast without option of replenishing, CD is same story and also mages need items to do damage they dont kill with only tome but assassin can with only dirk and biggest problem is MR is counter them hard they just cannot do anything to 4k hp MR tank who can just stright walk to them and kill. Generaly mages are reduced do CC bots while ADs do brunt of damage. Yeah, I always build tear a lot on mages especially in arams because fights and skirmishes happen very frequently. That's why I buy it on champs I don't normally buy it on such as annie, ziggs (i dont play ziggs unless i get him in arams), oriana. Tear is just such a great mana item. And almost all mage champions who rely heavily on cooldown, I always get ludens first. It's such a great ap item with passive and 20 cdr.
: Even if I run out of mana I still auto as a mage. Even autos proc scorch and the other one that I can not think of the name of XD.
> [{quoted}](name=ChaosLordMadis,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8HwOFezA,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-24T19:00:30.356+0000) > > Even if I run out of mana I still auto as a mage. Even autos proc scorch and the other one that I can not think of the name of XD. Yeah but again maybe it's because it's arams and people playing don't know how to auto attack as a mage. In arams in the games I play, most people who get mages who dont have auto based attacks like teemo, kayle, azir, tend to sit back and never auto attack. They just do a few spell rotations, then sit in the back and run back and forth. It looks almost like they don't know whether they should go in or not but i know it's really just they are waiting on cooldowns or mana. But in those moments, they could still auto attack while everyone is going all out, but they don't.
GreenKnight (EUNE)
: And then you remember that Veigar and Brand exist...
> [{quoted}](name=GreenKnight,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8HwOFezA,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-24T18:08:17.076+0000) > > And then you remember that Veigar and Brand exist... Yes definitely not all mages are bad. Zyra is also a very powerful mage imo. Huge damage and some cc. Idk, maybe it's just the elo im at in arams and the players playing mages are just not utilizing the mage to it's fullest. It is arams after all. And maybe the other classes I mentioned are more skill-friendly. Just hate having a team full of mages or 3 mages in arams, usually means high lose chance.
Rioter Comments
: NERF TAHM INTO THE GROUND
I've always thought tahm was broken. Then a few months back they said they nerfed him and all tahm kench mains were crying and I haven't heard about him until recently this week. I thought he was nerfed? Is he still strong even with the nerf or did he recently get a buff?
AidanWR (NA)
: I understand if it's a champion that typically doesn't go damage, or a hard ability to hit. Like Sion, his q takes skill to figure out, but it deals a lot of damage. However, Neeko's ult is on a champion that builds straight damage, is the same AoE as a Nunu ult, with a chance that you don't even see it coming if she plays it right, that also stuns, and has a base damage of 650 with an ap ratio of 130%. Plus she has a root that can Morgana bind an entire team so that they have to take her ult unless they can get out of the root in time. My problem with Neeko isn't that she's broken, it's just that they made her a fairly reliable burst mage with heavy cc and an escape. That's like giving Syndra a dash so she could get in range to one-shot people with her ult, or escape
> [{quoted}](name=AidanWR,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qq9gxAmW,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2019-06-23T20:54:01.759+0000) > > I understand if it's a champion that typically doesn't go damage, or a hard ability to hit. Like Sion, his q takes skill to figure out, but it deals a lot of damage. However, Neeko's ult is on a champion that builds straight damage, is the same AoE as a Nunu ult, with a chance that you don't even see it coming if she plays it right, that also stuns, and has a base damage of 650 with an ap ratio of 130%. Plus she has a root that can Morgana bind an entire team so that they have to take her ult unless they can get out of the root in time. My problem with Neeko isn't that she's broken, it's just that they made her a fairly reliable burst mage with heavy cc and an escape. That's like giving Syndra a dash so she could get in range to one-shot people with her ult, or escape Yeah I can agree with what you mean. It kind of feels like all newer champs or updated champs get extra stuff into their kit. An example I think of right away is zoe and how they give her a really easy setup if you land her sleep. I'm not sure how hard it is to land t he sleep, but once you hit it, you have all the time in the world to do any combo you want. The delay and then the sleep after gives the zoe and any teammate more than enough time to position and combo off the sleep and I think it's kind of dumb. Even if the cc isn't that long, the delay just makes it so easy for anyone to react to it. RANT Pike, talon, and akali are two other champs that I find stupid, pike being new and akali/talon wit recent rework. I find it dumb that they have so much burst damage, hard cc except for talon, get so much escapes while others don't even have an escape. Pike can go invis, can omni-direction dash that leaves a trail that stuns anyone in it, and he can negate a lot of damage dealt to him with his grey health that only he and tahm kench has while everyone else bleeds dry unless they have built in sustain. Akali having a smoke screen that makes her very hard to hit unless you have aoe because you CANT auto attack her while she is in her smoke and invis, then she has a stun in her ult that is somewhat similar to pike's dash stun, then with no ult she can use a throwing kunar ability similar to cait which when combined with her smoke makes her create a lot of distance from her and the one who was about to take her down. Then you got talon where if you don't hard cc him and burst him down, he can jump away very easily because despite the medium long cooldown on terrain, there is so much terrain to jump to that it doesn't even matter unless you are purposely wasting all the terrain jumping for no reason. It's so hard to catch a talon when he can jump to so many terrain with a no mana cost, short second cooldown parkour ability and if you get to him he also has an invis ult that he can turn around and burst you if you are squishy.
: depends on a lot, like the strength of the champion, their health, the mana they'll spend on the cc, and the cooldown.
> [{quoted}](name=EthreainAmbusher,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qq9gxAmW,comment-id=000f,timestamp=2019-06-23T20:56:54.255+0000) > > depends on a lot, like the strength of the champion, their health, the mana they'll spend on the cc, and the cooldown. That's true too. In a few small cases though, i feel some champions with hard cc need nerf on their damage or something because having medium to high damage on hard cc kit is kinda too much imo. Or at least, skill shot no cc abilities should get a buff to make up for lack of hard cc.
: Try playing with plat and low diamond players. They will make you forget about the gold ones
> [{quoted}](name=thepowerlies,realm=EUW,application-id=GgNYATV4,discussion-id=q0i7oUEP,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-23T21:53:02.739+0000) > > Try playing with plat and low diamond players. They will make you forget about the gold ones LOL care to share your experiences with them?
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