Pika Fox (NA)
: Outcome is entirely automated and reviewed by the bot with no bearing to reports. The dumbed down terms the way i understand it and can best convey it is; Upon determining the flagged game is toxic, it essentially assigns a number to your account, depending on how toxic it deems it. Once you pass a certain threshold by either outright flaming or being passive agressively toxic/minorly toxic, you eventually get hit with a proper punishment. Games played without getting a valid report essentially lower the number/raise the threshold, so 1 bad game in hundreds isnt going to auto punish you. This also slows honor progress, so even if you arent being actively punished, honor is slowed. Nowhere in this equation does the bot care about how many reports were filed for determining punishment. It might care to learn what the community thinks is innapropriate, but not in the actual punishment itself. Zero tollerance stuff bypasses all this and instantly punished. (Yes, i know this is probably not exactly what riot does, but its most likely a good dumbed down explanation that functions essentially how the bot works to the best of my knowledge)
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=9OQYb9WI,comment-id=00040000000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-10T17:49:13.969+0000) > > Outcome is entirely automated and reviewed by the bot with no bearing to reports. The dumbed down terms the way i understand it and can best convey it is; > > Upon determining the flagged game is toxic, it essentially assigns a number to your account, depending on how toxic it deems it. Once you pass a certain threshold by either outright flaming or being passive agressively toxic/minorly toxic, you eventually get hit with a proper punishment. Games played without getting a valid report essentially lower the number/raise the threshold, so 1 bad game in hundreds isnt going to auto punish you. > > This also slows honor progress, so even if you arent being actively punished, honor is slowed. > > Nowhere in this equation does the bot care about how many reports were filed for determining punishment. It might care to learn what the community thinks is innapropriate, but not in the actual punishment itself. > > Zero tollerance stuff bypasses all this and instantly punished. > > (Yes, i know this is probably not exactly what riot does, but its most likely a good dumbed down explanation that functions essentially how the bot works to the best of my knowledge) Determining whether the flagged game is toxic goes hand in hand with the number of people reporting, since that gives them an idea of how many people are angered. Unless there's more transparency regarding this, I find it hard to believe given the chat log and my experience with past things I've heard and said, that the number of people reporting isn't playing a factor in algorithm for handing out judgements.
: > [{quoted}](name=moist moms,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=9OQYb9WI,comment-id=0001000000010000,timestamp=2018-08-10T17:31:18.476+0000) > > Again where is the code they posted. No one has actually referenced a link. [Here you go.](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/f/ZGEFLEUQ/d/t4BNHARj?comment=00030000000000000002) From Riot Tantram, Senior Software Engineer. >if (reports > 0) { reviewGame(); } Very simple function. 1+ reports? Trigger a review. > You're telling me now the system understands context. I am. I've been on these boards a *lot*, and have seen the system pick up both subtle and obvious behavior. Further, there is no context in *League* where calling someone a no-life whining kit or calling them pathetic wouldn't get you punished.
> [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=9OQYb9WI,comment-id=00010000000100000000,timestamp=2018-08-10T17:41:59.975+0000) > > [Here you go.](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/f/ZGEFLEUQ/d/t4BNHARj?comment=00030000000000000002) From Riot Tantram, Senior Software Engineer. > reviewGame(); > } > > Very simple function. 1+ reports? Trigger a review. > > I am. I've been on these boards a *lot*, and have seen the system pick up both subtle and obvious behavior. Further, there is no context in *League* where calling someone a no-life whining kit or calling them pathetic wouldn't get you punished. Triggering a review is not the same as the determination of the review, which I'm positive is affected by the number of players reporting. Those are two very minor "insults" in one game where context at best is very muddy, no person was directly referenced. These kind of comments often are not enough to trigger punishments given only one person had reported it.
Voldymort (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=moist moms,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=9OQYb9WI,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-08-10T17:07:27.644+0000) > > Actually it does. Merely sparking the system to investigate the report is one thing, but the number of players reporting will determin e the punishment whether you like to believe or not. You don't have access to their algorithm so you really can't say you know what you're talking about. **https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752884-Reporting-a-Player** **THINGS TO AVOID** ***Do not threaten or repeatedly tell a player you will report them. Doing so can encourage players who are already negative to continue their behavior. Whether they know they are being reported or not has no bearing to whether the system will act on them. But most importantly, repeatedly threatening or arguing with a negative player can end up derailing the game for everyone else and then open yourself up to reports and possible disciplinary action as well. Avoid negative thoughts and useless chatting with poor performing teammates! Focus on victory by muting the offending player and then reporting them at the end of the game.*** ***Do not ask other players in the match to report the offending player. It only takes one report for our systems to review a game. Additional reports will not do anything for the offending player; however as mentioned above, it could open yourself up to a report of your own; especially if you are derailing the match by constantly demanding reports of other players.*** ***Negative behavior is unacceptable regardless of the circumstances or who started it. It can be tempting to respond to negative players with negativity of your own. Our systems do not care who started the behavior and will treat each reported player based off the merits of their own case. The only way to handle these types of players is to mute them and continue playing the game followed by giving them a report at the end of the match.*** Also the algorithm was revealed a while ago: > [{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=t4BNHARj,comment-id=00030000000000000002,timestamp=2017-05-09T20:27:51.768+0000) > > 4+ reports is the same as 1. > > A report, or 9 reports, flag a game for review. > > if (reports > 0) { > reviewGame(); > }
> [{quoted}](name=Voldymort,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=9OQYb9WI,comment-id=000100000002,timestamp=2018-08-10T17:31:58.798+0000) > Also the algorithm was revealed a while ago: That code is in reference to sparking a review. Has nothing to do with how they determine the outcome of whether a person is punished.
Scuttle (NA)
: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/f/ZGEFLEUQ/d/9VrUtrJo?comment=0000000000020000000000000000
> [{quoted}](name=Scuttle,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=9OQYb9WI,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2018-08-10T17:32:44.678+0000) > > https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/f/ZGEFLEUQ/d/9VrUtrJo?comment=0000000000020000000000000000 Yeah that's just sparking a review, that tells nothing regarding the outcome of the review.
: > [{quoted}](name=moist moms,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=9OQYb9WI,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-08-10T17:07:27.644+0000)Merely sparking the system to investigate the report is one thing, but the number of players reporting will determine the punishment whether you like to believe or not. You don't have access to their algorithm so you really can't say you know what you're talking about. They've actually posted the relevant lines from the code. It literally searches for ***Reports > 0***. That's it. > "At least I have a life" is not an insult. Telling someone to "keep on whining" is not an insult. Me saying some kid is a no life flaming over a video game is teammates is probably the closest thing to an insult. "At least I have a life" has a very strong implication of "unlike you," and the system (and the community) knows that. Calling someone pathetic is an insult. Calling someone a no-life whining kid is an insult.
> [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=9OQYb9WI,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2018-08-10T17:24:34.206+0000) > > They've actually posted the relevant lines from the code. It literally searches for ***Reports > 0***. That's it. > > "At least I have a life" has a very strong implication of "unlike you," and the system (and the community) knows that. Calling someone pathetic is an insult. Calling someone a no-life whining kid is an insult. Again where is the code they posted. No one has actually referenced a link. You're telling me now the system understands context, because from most instances reported they're algorithm doesn't seem to grasp context at all. Given the nature of my comments, that's not enough for the system to make a valid claim outside of what I'm positive is the number of players reporting.
: > [{quoted}](name=moist moms,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=9OQYb9WI,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-08-10T17:08:55.721+0000) > > I've been around the system enough to know that you're wrong. I've been playing for about 6 years. I know you're wrong
> [{quoted}](name=AnAggravatedPimp,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=9OQYb9WI,comment-id=000300000001,timestamp=2018-08-10T17:21:18.599+0000) > > I've been playing for about 6 years. I know you're wrong 6 years lvl 34, ok bud
: > [{quoted}](name=moist moms,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=9OQYb9WI,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-10T17:12:35.696+0000) > > That has nothing to do with their reporting algorithm. Since your post has multiple down votes, maybe you should realize that your big ego isn't helping.
> [{quoted}](name=Summonah12369,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=9OQYb9WI,comment-id=00030000000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-10T17:19:00.523+0000) > > Since your post has multiple down votes, maybe you should realize that your big ego isn't helping. Don't really care that some guy with no valid information, you, downvoted my post.
Pika Fox (NA)
: Who do i believe... Board rando who admitted he got punished, or the guy who literally coded the system and publicly posted the code that checks for reports to prove number of reports dont matter. Hmm.
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=9OQYb9WI,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-08-10T17:13:58.892+0000) > > Who do i believe... Board rando who admitted he got punished, or the guy who literally coded the system and publicly posted the code that checks for reports to prove number of reports dont matter. Hmm. where is this posting and who is the guy?
: > [{quoted}](name=moist moms,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=9OQYb9WI,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-08-10T17:08:55.721+0000) > > I've been around the system enough to know that you're wrong. I've been learning a lot of how to avoid looking toxic to know that YOU'RE wrong. Not me.
> [{quoted}](name=Summonah12369,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=9OQYb9WI,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2018-08-10T17:10:15.303+0000) > > I've been learning a lot of how to avoid looking toxic to know that YOU'RE wrong. Not me. That has nothing to do with their reporting algorithm.
: The amount of people reporting does NOT matter, the context in your chat logs does NOT matter. A valid report that is reporting a toxic player, no matter how many are reporting, you can get punished.
> [{quoted}](name=Summonah12369,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=9OQYb9WI,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-08-10T17:06:00.468+0000) > > The amount of people reporting does NOT matter, the context in your chat logs does NOT matter. A valid report that is reporting a toxic player, no matter how many are reporting, you can get punished. I've been around the system enough to know that you're wrong.
: >Tell me again that # of players reporting doesnt matter Sure. **The number of players reporting you does not matter.** ----------------------------- The reason you were punished here is because these lines are insults, and insulting other players isn't allowed. Whether you got one report or nine, this behavior isn't acceptable. >moist moms: this kid is some salty no life whinign about a video game flaming his teammates moist moms: keep whining its pathetic moist moms: at least i have a life top kek
> [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=9OQYb9WI,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-08-10T16:57:46.122+0000) > > Sure. > > **The number of players reporting you does not matter.** > ----------------------------- > > The reason you were punished here is because these lines are insults, and insulting other players isn't allowed. Whether you got one report or nine, this behavior isn't acceptable. > moist moms: keep whining its pathetic > moist moms: at least i have a life top kek Actually it does. Merely sparking the system to investigate the report is one thing, but the number of players reporting will determin e the punishment whether you like to believe or not. You don't have access to their algorithm so you really can't say you know what you're talking about. "At least I have a life" is not an insult. Telling someone to "keep on whining" is not an insult. Me saying some kid is a no life flaming over a video game is teammates is probably the closest thing to an insult.
Amphysvena (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=moist moms,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=1azcrc5E,comment-id=000d0000,timestamp=2018-07-28T03:16:38.517+0000) > > You statistically get as many afkers as the enemy team does. Unless you're provoking people to afk. It's really not that big of an issue When over 75% of all games have AFK:ers then it is a big problem. Wasting hours to get one game that isn´t even good quality. Just a game with the amount of players meant to play the game. Just get rid of all these people.
> [{quoted}](name=Amphysvena,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=1azcrc5E,comment-id=000d00000000,timestamp=2018-07-31T00:19:18.576+0000) > > When over 75% of all games have AFK:ers then it is a big problem. Wasting hours to get one game that isn´t even good quality. Just a game with the amount of players meant to play the game. Just get rid of all these people. Oh you have 75% of your games with afk's? That's an exaggeration if i've ever heard one. They pop up maybe once every 100.
: That YOU played. Which means very little. I definitely would just as everyone else would say it is as well. Because it is the internet. What you experience here you'll experience it anywhere else. But the fact remain all games that has open chat communication is just as toxic as this game. It's inevitable no matter where you go. You'll experience the exact same thing with open chat here as you would anywhere else. Hell, even if it's not a video game, you'll see people on Youtube or any other chats saying things just as bad what this game or any other game out there with open chat. But it'll never, I do mean never will be just this game alone. It's the internet. It's just how it is.
> [{quoted}](name=Zombie Gerbil,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=AiMYTVYd,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2018-07-29T18:42:12.432+0000) > > That YOU played. Which means very little. > I definitely would just as everyone else would say it is as well. Because it is the internet. What you experience here you'll experience it anywhere else. But the fact remain all games that has open chat communication is just as toxic as this game. It's inevitable no matter where you go. You'll experience the exact same thing with open chat here as you would anywhere else. > > Hell, even if it's not a video game, you'll see people on Youtube or any other chats saying things just as bad what this game or any other game out there with open chat. But it'll never, I do mean never will be just this game alone. It's the internet. It's just how it is. You can get it in every game but the prevalence of the toxicity in league compared to mmo's and fps's is higher. As i said it's not an internet issue like you're making it out to be.
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Kei143 (NA)
: But... how could you play a lot and still be lvl 61? I play around 6-8 hrs a week and I'm lvl 91. Unless you are using an alt account, inwhich just makes things confusing for the people analyzing you. Either that or maybe you aren't as ho portable as you think, and are getting validly reported.
> [{quoted}](name=Kei143,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=6d9aJggO,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2018-07-28T13:03:57.790+0000) > > But... how could you play a lot and still be lvl 61? > > I play around 6-8 hrs a week and I'm lvl 91. Unless you are using an alt account, inwhich just makes things confusing for the people analyzing you. > > Either that or maybe you aren't as ho portable as you think, and are getting validly reported. I'm higher level than you. I was in the same situation as this guy where I hardly talked and muted all. I barely got level 2 like a month ago when I got punished in February. Shit's gonna take months for him to regain level 2. I'm not sure if it's even possible for him to get rewards at this point with the rate of honor progress between level 0 to 2.
: Any game with open communication will have toxic people. Just because you leave one game with open chat due toxicity doesn't mean you'll avoid it. Unless you stick to games like HearthStone, Gwent or maybe Overwatch without chat turned on. Welcome to the internet.
> [{quoted}](name=Zombie Gerbil,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=AiMYTVYd,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-07-29T04:28:57.559+0000) > > Any game with open communication will have toxic people. > Just because you leave one game with open chat due toxicity doesn't mean you'll avoid it. > Unless you stick to games like HearthStone, Gwent or maybe Overwatch without chat turned on. > > Welcome to the internet. I wouldn't say it's an internet issue. There's a certain level of nastiness in this game's community that isn't prevalent in any other online game I ever played.
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Amphysvena (EUNE)
: Just permaban all the AFK:ers. That should make my winrate double. Last 14 games. 2 was without afks. Seriously something wrong with this game. If someone is afk for more than say 5 minutes you should be able to leave the game and have the afk:er lose all the LP. I don´t give a shit about exploits. This isn´t even a game anymore.
> [{quoted}](name=Amphysvena,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=1azcrc5E,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2018-07-27T22:46:03.249+0000) > > Just permaban all the AFK:ers. That should make my winrate double. Last 14 games. 2 was without afks. Seriously something wrong with this game. If someone is afk for more than say 5 minutes you should be able to leave the game and have the afk:er lose all the LP. I don´t give a shit about exploits. This isn´t even a game anymore. You statistically get as many afkers as the enemy team does. Unless you're provoking people to afk. It's really not that big of an issue
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Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=moist moms,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=F0cFQUle,comment-id=00000001000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-07T12:45:27.009+0000) > > I'm getting it like a full day later So, you care about first win of the day but don’t want to take the 10 to 20 minutes to just do a bot game to get it but in turn would rather keep suffering through actual games, alright, makes sense to me.
> [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=F0cFQUle,comment-id=000000010001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-07T12:48:04.187+0000) > > So, you care about first win of the day but don’t want to take the 10 to 20 minutes to just do a bot game to get it but in turn would rather keep suffering through actual games, alright, makes sense to me. Again, I literally don't know why you call it suffering. You're comprehension skills lul.
Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=moist moms,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=F0cFQUle,comment-id=000000010001000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-07T12:40:46.935+0000) > > I play the game cause i like the game, I have an issue with the BE system. What's so hard to understand? If you are playing it because you like it, what is the problem you will get the win eventually
> [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=F0cFQUle,comment-id=0000000100010000000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-07T12:44:25.251+0000) > > If you are playing it because you like it, what is the problem you will get the win eventually I'm getting it like a full day later
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Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=moist moms,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=F0cFQUle,comment-id=0000000100010000,timestamp=2018-06-07T12:20:48.174+0000) > > FWOTD is like the majority of your BE gains, which is exactly my point on why do I have to play a game mode i don't enjoy to get it? As opposed to sitting pissed off hating the experience to get a win?
> [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=F0cFQUle,comment-id=00000001000100000000,timestamp=2018-06-07T12:23:09.906+0000) > > As opposed to sitting pissed off hating the experience to get a win? I play the game cause i like the game, I have an issue with the BE system. What's so hard to understand?
Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=moist moms,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=F0cFQUle,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2018-06-07T12:12:17.442+0000) > > Literally doesn't solve my issue At the point where you are forcing yourself not for enjoyment of the game but just for the meager amount of BE and EXP, why even force yourself to play man?
> [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=F0cFQUle,comment-id=000000010001,timestamp=2018-06-07T12:17:44.864+0000) > > At the point where you are forcing yourself not for enjoyment of the game but just for the meager amount of BE and EXP, why even force yourself to play man? FWOTD is like the majority of your BE gains, which is exactly my point on why do I have to play a game mode i don't enjoy to get it?
Vhan8765 (NA)
: "I can't get my First Win of the Day because I can't get a win! Instead of going into a bot game to get it, let me complain about the need to actually win to get my First Win of the Day!" Hello? {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}}
> [{quoted}](name=Vhan8765,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=F0cFQUle,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-06-07T12:17:23.937+0000) > > "I can't get my First Win of the Day because I can't get a win! Instead of going into a bot game to get it, let me complain about the need to actually win to get my First Win of the Day!" > > Hello? > {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}} Why would i want to play a bot game? Like why should i have to play a mode i don't enjoy to get a normal amount of BE?
: you can burn through a bot game in 12 minutes....
> [{quoted}](name=fatherdarius,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=F0cFQUle,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-06-07T12:12:53.132+0000) > > you can burn through a bot game in 12 minutes.... Why should i have to? What is the reason for requiring a win? their whole spheal about the new BE system is that it's front loaded
Jamaree (NA)
: Why not just play an ARAM?
> [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=F0cFQUle,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-06-07T12:11:08.475+0000) > > Why not just play an ARAM? Literally doesn't solve my issue
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Pika Fox (NA)
: You dont get "less and less". There are set amounts of BE each capsule can contain (including disenchanting). Which ammount you get is random, but averages out to be more than you could have gotten with IP u less you played a rediculously high ammount of games per session. Also, exp to level caps out, slowly increasing per level up to the tenth level then drops back down to the 0th level of exp and climbs again once you hit level 100 or so.
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yLht3WQK,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-05-26T13:27:30.715+0000) > > You dont get "less and less". There are set amounts of BE each capsule can contain (including disenchanting). Which ammount you get is random, but averages out to be more than you could have gotten with IP u less you played a rediculously high ammount of games per session. > > Also, exp to level caps out, slowly increasing per level up to the tenth level then drops back down to the 0th level of exp and climbs again once you hit level 100 or so. When the system started out I received minimum 900 per capsule. Then they took of 90 BE and the minimum was 810. Now they seem to have taken off another 90 BE for a minimum of 720. The only way it ays out is if as you said you play 1 or two games a day. And two if you get the champion shards you desire for the discount. Otherwise its a joke.
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Snowman Arc (EUNE)
: How is it his elo level, when you say that games are considered by the team and not by him?
> [{quoted}](name=Snowman Arc,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OmfxNzWr,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2018-05-25T12:03:53.728+0000) > > How is it his elo level, when you say that games are considered by the team and not by him? Because he's a member of the team???
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: > [{quoted}](name=moist moms,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OmfxNzWr,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-05-25T08:45:12.926+0000) > > Wishful thinking, it's a team game and the game is won as a team not by one person. If games were solely won off the back of one individual frequently, people would be complaining a shit load that something's broken and op. If that is true then it means climbing is luck based since one person doesn't mean as much as the team and the team is randomly chosen.
> [{quoted}](name=LetMeCarry1983,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OmfxNzWr,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-05-25T08:58:55.724+0000) > > If that is true then it means climbing is luck based since one person doesn't mean as much as the team and the team is randomly chosen. Playing better than average and better than your elo doesnt necessarily mean carrying. Could just be consistently making one or two less mistakes that costs you the game
: The game should be called Coinflip Legends.
That means you're playing at your elo level if you're sitting at a 50% win-rate. I hate taking riot's side on things but you being at a 50% win-rate is a clear indicator their match making works. There's 10 players in the game and you expect yourself to be the carry in every single game you play? and not any of those other 10 players that are also just as good as you? Wishful thinking, it's a team game and the game is won as a team not by one person. If games were solely won off the back of one individual frequently, people would be complaining a shit load that something's broken and op.
: I'm level 4 while laners are 6... ridiculous
> [{quoted}](name=atomicwit,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eRtmVXoA,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-05-23T17:38:37.315+0000) > > I'm level 4 while laners are 6... ridiculous ikr, you gank and you do like 1/8 of their health bar in damage while they maul you to death cause you're so far behind
: Loss Prevention???
dude i got +6 lp for one of my wins today
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: I mean, what are you expecting from this kind of thread? being upvoted by people that, like you, can't seem to win games ? Having 14%wr on Nautilus over 14 games can't ONLY be riot's fault, be realistic somehow. You have only played 51 games so there's no "omagad 50% forced win rate" if that were true you wouldn't have 33%wr.
> [{quoted}](name=Azorlebleu,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=3s7goRLT,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-04-27T09:28:04.842+0000) > > I mean, what are you expecting from this kind of thread? being upvoted by people that, like you, can't seem to win games ? > Having 14%wr on Nautilus over 14 games can't ONLY be riot's fault, be realistic somehow. > You have only played 51 games so there's no "omagad 50% forced win rate" > if that were true you wouldn't have 33%wr. It's a joke bruh why you so abrasive?
: > [{quoted}](name=moist moms,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=3s7goRLT,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-04-27T09:05:30.974+0000) > > 9 games in a row. Pretty certain rito is playing some sick joke on me. Or you are just tilted. Take a break, don't play for a day or two.
> [{quoted}](name=Arisha the Dark,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=3s7goRLT,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-04-27T09:15:20.893+0000) > > Or you are just tilted. Take a break, don't play for a day or two. I did take a break, this is day 2
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CppL (EUW)
: Dont stand near minions ,and force her to chose wave clear or harras.Her E is the only wave clear she has and it cost shit load of mana.
> [{quoted}](name=CppL,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aJw12c17,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-04-17T03:44:25.831+0000) > > Dont stand near minions ,and force her to chose wave clear or harras.Her E is the only wave clear she has and it cost shit load of mana. You ever play lucian or any other low range adc against her as supp? yeah probably not I shouldnt need to be 40 feet away from my auto range from the closest minion to avoid that shit
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Lapis (OCE)
: Which jungler should I learn?
not jax, they took away green trinket
: So buff every Jungler just because they nerfed Lee Sin?
> [{quoted}](name=Baron Barian,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jf7YE5qQ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-02-23T00:05:20.951+0000) > > So buff every Jungler just because they nerfed Lee Sin? Literally has nothing to do with Lee sin. Although I don't think his solution is valid, Junglers are more dependent on vision because they play in a much larger area of the map (mostly invisible). The team depends on them for onjective control. Essentially they killed a lot of jg gameplay and nerfed champs that use green, aka tanks, bruisers, support jglrs, objective jglrs, ward-hopping jglrs, and fiddle.
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: > [{quoted}](name=moist moms,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ieYvgGlJ,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-02-14T09:27:40.809+0000) > > As I predicted some kid making an opinion of a game mode he apparently doesnt even play. Try going bot lane alone as any champion for the first 5 minutes. The challenge isn't winning the game, the bots doing nothing but sit there attacking you zoning you off until you play passive and out farm them. Literally not fun at all. a lvl 69 player that has issues with beginner bots such a joke. Riot does not make the bots for you exclusively. Go play a custom game and do a 1v1 against a bot if you want to "have fun" but i guess that even then having someone that can auto you once in a blue moon is going to be too much for you to handle
> [{quoted}](name=ZephyrDrake,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ieYvgGlJ,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-14T09:35:02.595+0000) > > a lvl 69 player that has issues with beginner bots such a joke. Riot does not make the bots for you exclusively. Go play a custom game and do a 1v1 against a bot if you want to "have fun" but i guess that even then having someone that can auto you once in a blue moon is going to be too much for you to handle "Auto you once in a blue moon" Play the game mode before you try and act like you know what you're talking about. You seem to just and want to attack people rather than address the issue. So typical of this cringy community of losers with no life. I'm so sorry that I think they need to improve the game to make it more realistic and friendly to play rather than frontloading the shit out of the champions and making them play like idiots by buying tons of potions, never farming, and only attacking the players. Such a quality game mode.
: if beginner bots are giving you any form of challenge then something is horribly wrong with the way you pay the game
> [{quoted}](name=ZephyrDrake,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ieYvgGlJ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-02-14T09:22:03.056+0000) > > if beginner bots are giving you any form of challenge then something is horribly wrong with the way you pay the game As I predicted some kid making an opinion of a game mode he apparently doesnt even play. Try going bot lane alone as any champion for the first 5 minutes. The challenge isn't winning the game, the bots doing nothing but sit there attacking you zoning you off until you play passive and out farm them. Literally not fun at all.
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