: It's fresh they will find the bad things and fix them it is not a bad thing becuase it gives you a chance to level the playing field against the players who stack everything on one person
> [{quoted}](name=super kranked,realm=NA,application-id=RaE1aOE7,discussion-id=xZrxjHUJ,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-08-15T21:40:45.711+0000) > > It's fresh they will find the bad things and fix them it is not a bad thing becuase it gives you a chance to level the playing field against the players who stack everything on one person Level the playing field? You've got 7 items across your gunslingers, and I've got 3 total all on my Varus, because I was lucky enough to get gold every neutral wave. Now your 4 item advantage turned into a 7 item advantage, because I should be double punished for bad rng. Why are my items and positioning both destroyed for a 2 piece bonus? How is anyone defending this horse shit? Remove the aoe completely. 2 piece bonus is 4 seconds to a single random unit, and 6 seconds for the 4 piece bonus. Now it can still be bullshit, but serve it's intended purpose of focusing a single unit being stacked, and not shut down the items of an entire team, while also erasing any Guardian build.
: Does Riot still do the legacy vault?
Yeah they're sipping Mai Tais somewhere on a desert island vault with Tupac, Elvis, RGMs, and the balance team.
KazKaz (OCE)
: Yet another patch where Item RNG isn't fixed
Add the Hextech for another layer of rng. The game is purely a coin flip at this point.
FSRER (EUNE)
: Give his Q base damage Make his W give him more speed Make his E travel faster And make his R supress longer
> [{quoted}](name=FSRER,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2dpUhKsO,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-08-11T12:04:36.794+0000) > > Give his Q base damage > Make his W give him more speed > Make his E travel faster > And make his R supress longer Shit man, it's Rito 2019. If you want real changes, you have to speak their language. Release a new Skarner skin Give his Q more damage Make his W do damage Make his E do more damage, add a dash to it, and make the subsequent hit knock up instead of stun Make his R do more damage Now they're listening.
: Is it just me or are people slowly not playing league anymore?
My friends list has been empty since URF last left. I'm sure it'll repopulate if URF comes back again. Ranked SR is just played to death and boring at this point, and Riot is unable to evolve and branch out. Their vault holds some fun stuff, but they refuse to open it.
YaraUwU (NA)
: Riot you arent losing players in SR to other game modes your losing them because.
I haven't played ranked in a couple of seasons, because a decade of the same shit just got boring. Until TFT, I'd only come back for URF or the occasional ARAM. Most of my Discord is in the same boat, come back for URF and then dip when Riot starts herding the cattle back to the LCS Simulator. Ranked just isn't enjoyable anymore, and removing more options won't change my opinion. It's time to evolve and focus on more game modes, not force feed the same boring shit.
Scazie (EUW)
: Every change since season 4 has just homogenised champion gameplay
I miss the days of AP Yi and Sion, AD Eve and 5 BF Kat, top lane Zac, and all of the other fun shit that kept the game fresh. Now it's all streamlined for LCS. The only thing bringing me back to this shitter are RGMs that don't even exist anymore.
Pumo (NA)
: But they brought back his ult {{champion:154}}. So we gud now fellow Zac main
> [{quoted}](name=Pumo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ThssZX5E,comment-id=00230001,timestamp=2019-07-11T20:02:29.516+0000) > > But they brought back his ult {{champion:154}}. So we gud now fellow Zac main We lost wave clear, damage, and sustain from pre rework. People forget that Zac's highest win rate was top lane as an AP sustain bruiser. Reverting the ult did nothing to make him lane viable again. He simply can't function the same without a full revert
: Nothing feels worse than loving a champion who isn't on Riot's favorite list
{{champion:154}} I stopped playing ranked a couple of years ago when they ruined my boy for those big LCS plays that I personally don't give a shit about.
: RIOT Bring back the old rotating game modes
URF, Hexakill, and OFA are the only times I come back to this game. Ranked is a dumpster fire that's been played to death for a decade. Unvault the fun shit already.
Sillae (NA)
: Players: We want Nexus Blitz to be a Permanent Mode!
Blitz wasn't my personal favorite, but it's better than slogging through another decade of ranked. It would be nice to have a legit arcade mode where every pvp game mode is up permanently, and we had the choice of what we wanted to play. My friends list has been empty since ARURF left, and they aren't coming back until it does. Just give us URF/Blitz/OFA/Hexakill/Ascension, and stop trying to force LCS Simulator down our throats. There are too many good fucking games out now to be told what to play on League, so unvault the fun shit, and I'll come back.
: Because it's not really ever going to happen where both feel impactful. Assassins tend to fail in high-durability environments. Once tanks (or hell, even juggernauts) are meta assassins start losing usefulness. Especially in ones where there's a lot of CC and teamfighting.
> [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6c0L0ul0,comment-id=00000001000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-28T15:00:16.766+0000) > > Because it's not really ever going to happen where both feel impactful. > > Assassins tend to fail in high-durability environments. Once tanks (or hell, even juggernauts) are meta assassins start losing usefulness. Especially in ones where there's a lot of CC and teamfighting. It's not an assassin's job to deal with tanks. ADCs are supposed to bust the tanks, and assassins bust the ADCs. Right now everything busts everything instantly, and tanks in solo queue have been borderline troll picks for over 2 years(with a few exceptions due to over buffing reworks that immediately get nerfed back to shit tier).
: > [{quoted}](name=General Esdeath ,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cQobb6nR,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-06-26T21:01:11.321+0000) > > Why would they do that? It doesn't increase their profit margins at all! What, did you think this game was meant to be fun?!? I mean that's not true at all. Fun game modes are gonna make people play more. a small percentage of people play ranked, and the fact that play time and players spike when things like Nexus blitz and URF shows up proves people play MORE when there are fun temp game modes. And more games played means more chance of people buying skins and such. If people aren't playing or played minimally vs people playing more it isn't hard to see which gives a higher chance to make money.
> [{quoted}](name=CallMeBoomer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cQobb6nR,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-06-27T04:16:48.847+0000) > > I mean that's not true at all. Fun game modes are gonna make people play more. a small percentage of people play ranked, and the fact that play time and players spike when things like Nexus blitz and URF shows up proves people play MORE when there are fun temp game modes. And more games played means more chance of people buying skins and such. > > If people aren't playing or played minimally vs people playing more it isn't hard to see which gives a higher chance to make money. URF does bring a shit load of players back with their wallets, but Riot is all in on LCS. Pushing LCS and herding players back into playing LCS Simulator are their primary objectives. I absolutely hate ranked, and fun pvp game modes are all that I'll play, but we won't get them until Riot gives up on the "Sim or bust" shit. I refuse, so I'll just play other games until URF rolls back into town.
: > [{quoted}](name=Saezio,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Hab072cf,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-06-21T18:02:11.502+0000) > > You see, ezreal isn't an OP champ or anything. But he has a good fan base that want to play him. > We re not asking for nerfs on ezreal (at least I am not). > by definition, if a champ has been floating between A and S tier for 6 years I'm pretty sure they're overpowered, especially on a massive playerbase > What I would like is ezreal to be balanced around being a trinity force adc like he used to be. And have the items BUFFED for other champions. > why? trinity force has much of the same issue, the triforce build gets a frozen mallet > For example, IBG. If it was melee only, would anyone mind a lot if it was buffed to compete as a tank item vs bruisers? > Did you see my post regarding the issues pertaining to the three transformation champions and what has happened in the past? also I can't see it being any better of an item if it were 'melee only' since its current power level is the max it can be before something like fizz or ekko comes in and goes full tank > I just don't like the idea of a champion needing the items to be relevant, and at the same time be _the only champion_ on whom the items are even viable/competitive. > Again, Iceborn AND manamune are both built on jayce and have both been built on jayce since his release, they're not his core build anymore but that's simply due to imbalances in his kit regarding lethality, which riot has stated a yearning to nerf. That can't be done if there isn't a viable alternative for him to build into, and his healthiest role historically, as well as his initially intended role, was that of a B tier ADC meets a B tier bruiser. > At least that's how I perceive the situation. I just firmly disagree that a single champion should ever be the catalyst for the removal of an item, I'd rather have that specific champion have a situational nerf in relation to that item.
> [{quoted}](name=Hammermancer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Hab072cf,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-06-21T18:08:03.276+0000) > > by definition, if a champ has been floating between A and S tier for 6 years I'm pretty sure they're overpowered This is factually incorrect. A few years ago he was actually at 46%, and the boards would often have posts asking for buffs. Ezreal's strength or lack of has always come down to small buffs or nerfs. Small buffs have pushed him to too strong, while small nerfs have guttered him. His core items are the same items that he's been building for years. Do they nerf him back down to 46%? Or do they nerf his interaction with his on hit core items, which he's used for years, some of which were spent in a pretty bad spot?
: Rotating game mode (rgm)
Play LCS Simulator, and emulate your favorite LCS star! Watch LC$! Battle Chess, because those DoTA guys are making money! Buy skins! RGMs make people happy, but they don't make money, and that's all Riot gives a shit about at this point. This game stopped being a player friendly passion project a long time ago.
: So Riot can make a Dota Chess clone in less than half a year, but at the same time they...
Been waiting for permanent URF, One for All, Hexakill. Instead we get some Battle Chess shit to cash in on the DoTA hype. Straight up trash company.
: Apparently none of his skills are on point with what he was like before the rework (ignoring his Q, which isn't going to be reverted) Basically, his W and E are still nerfed from the rework, and now his R isn't going to be fully reverted. The whole situation is just a glorified Zac nerf that took over two years. I just want old Zac back, he never needed a rework in the first place.
> [{quoted}](name=CleverCactus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PYauYEoi,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-05-30T04:46:49.864+0000) > > Apparently none of his skills are on point with what he was like before the rework (ignoring his Q, which isn't going to be reverted) > > Basically, his W and E are still nerfed from the rework, and now his R isn't going to be fully reverted. The whole situation is just a glorified Zac nerf that took over two years. > > I just want old Zac back, he never needed a rework in the first place. Completely agree. This change still leaves him unplayable top lane, where he had his highest win rate. An AP situation bruiser doesn't work if he can't sustain and he can't bruise. A full revert is the only option, but Riot still won't admit what a horrible choice it was to rework him in the first place. Full revert or gtfo.
: Favorite rotating game mode
URF. It's the only time my Discord has friends playing League, and it brings me back together with old online buddies. Everyone on my list scatters to other games when it leaves. I also really enjoyed Hexakill on TT, but URF just brings back so many fucking people.
: [GAMEPLAY] Yasuo - Windwall is not blocking abilities when cast
Remember all those times that your projectile model actually hit Yasuo's model, only to see the wall get shit out and block it after? Yeah, we don't feel bad for you.
: > [{quoted}](name=Yandere Janná,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=mc7tKcAQ,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-05-18T16:45:27.444+0000) > > the game is fine, no one wants a tank meta. It doesn't have to be a tankmeta just because everyone doesn't oneshot
> [{quoted}](name=TrikzterzArma,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=mc7tKcAQ,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-05-18T17:01:30.390+0000) > > It doesn't have to be a tankmeta just because everyone doesn't oneshot Just ignore them. Most of the people crying about a tank meta weren't here for the tank meta. If a tank stays upright for longer than 1.5 seconds then it's a tank meta, and we all know that a 1.5 second skirmish is way too long. In 2 more years your nexus will just blow up in champ select, and people will still be bitching about a tank meta.
Red Fr0st (EUW)
: So , this revert is just for silver-gold ap zac players who want to deal damage as tank champion instead of usefull cc in teamfight?
> [{quoted}](name=Red Fr0st,realm=EUW,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=xXA81uAL,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-05-13T18:42:15.225+0000) > > So , this revert is just for silver-gold ap zac players who want to deal damage as tank champion instead of usefull cc in teamfight? A tank champion? Zac's highest win rate pre rework was top lane as an AP sustain bruiser. Much like Darius does with AD, Zac would build his core damage item, go into tank items, and trade with damage and sustain. There are no shields, armor/res buffs, mitigation, or "tank" abilities/passives in his kit. He gave up damage and sustain for the Q and R, which left him unplayable in the lane. He has become a glorified LC$ cc machine. I like the new Q, but the old one did have it's place as reliable aoe and ranged poke through minions. The new Q even with it's old cd still won't make him viable in the lane, and with a longer cd it's still a borderline troll pick top lane. I'd personally prefer a full revert, so that he could once again be the sustain bruiser off-carry that he was for the years leading up to the horrible rework.
: I cannot get over the fact that Zac got reverted before Skarner
Is Zac getting a full revert or is it just his ult? A revert of just his ult does absolutely nothing, because he lost too much damage and sustain for the Q and R. If the ult gets reverted, but his damage remains in the gutter then he'll be in the same spot that he is now. Zac's highest win rate pre rework was top lane, that's a large reason why Zac mains want the full revert. He went from being an AP sustain bruiser to a support jungle who can't sustain and can't bruise.
mack9112 (NA)
: Zac top was viable when his sustain was overbearing. In his previous state he had absolutely no dueling tools which meant he had no top lane potential. The champion has some of the best ganks in the game and you can’t balance him around having that strength and being a laner he has too much power in his e with its engage potential to put power in the rest of his kit. I have played a lot of him through my time with this game.
> [{quoted}](name=mack9112,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VEWNTpdF,comment-id=0000000200000000,timestamp=2019-05-17T02:37:14.232+0000) > > The champion has some of the best ganks in the game and you can’t balance him around having that strength and being a laner But you can, and they did. 50% wr jungle and 50-51% top lane with under 2% pick rate for the BETTER PART OF TWO YEARS. His top lane was hit or miss, with matchups he did really well against and others that he got completely shit stomped regardless of player ability. 50-51% win rate with under 2% pick rate is the definition of balance. I don't know where all this "overbearing" shit is coming from considering that he was played at 2% with 1/8th of that 2% being top lane. Bruisers are supposed to be overbearing in the lane, but Zac was far more forgiving to play against than the AD bruisers and fighters who run the fucking yard. >Zac top was viable when his sustain was overbearing. The last buff to his sustain(his W) was in patch 4.11, which was 5 years ago, about 2 years before his peak in top lane.
mack9112 (NA)
: He is not a laner
> [{quoted}](name=mack9112,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VEWNTpdF,comment-id=00000002,timestamp=2019-05-17T00:50:18.867+0000) > > He is not a laner Well maybe in bronze. Gold+ top lane was his highest wr. He spent the better part of 2 years with 50% jg wr and 51% top lane wr, which is better than the current 47-48% jg and unplayable in a lane. "This champ goes here" and "this champ builds these items every game" is one of the reasons why this game went to shit. If something off meta ever reaches Riot's ears, it gets curb stomped out of the boring manipulated meta. Zac top was fun to play(for his mains) and refreshing to see.
: Zacs ult revert
He needs the full revert. The Q is nice, but Zac had his highest win rate top lane as an AP sustain bruiser. We gave up too much damage and sustain for the Q and R. Revert everything so that he can be allowed to deal damage and be viable in the lane again.
: Shameless League Clone
Does Mobile Legends have URF or Hexakill? If so, I'll trade in this shit ranked LCS Simulator for some silly fun.
: Zac n Cheese Skin Idea
If it came with a full revert, I'd buy any Zac skin.
: No, they said that the numbers show that not just the returning people but long-time players leave due to URF. https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/2017/12/ask-riot-urf/
> [{quoted}](name=King Shadow Lord,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=No9Yhfx8,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-06T23:05:52.307+0000) > > No, they said that the numbers show that not just the returning people but long-time players leave due to URF. > https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/2017/12/ask-riot-urf/ So URF brings in a bunch of players who otherwise don't play(like myself and several rl friends), then loses those same players plus some people who were playing LCS Simulator prior to URF's arrival? So basically, during URF the player base is at it's absolute HIGHEST, but for some reason they vault the game mode. Now you'll probably parrot some more bullshit Riot rhetoric about "but players could have too much fun and get burned out", "player feedback", or "but the old client". It would make more sense to offer URF permanently if it brings in and retains more players. But URF isn't LCS, and Riot is all the fuck in on pushing customers into watching LCS or playing LCS Simulator like the pros do. They need VoD hits, and a new crop of kids eating the ranked placebo and shitting themselves for near meaningless borders. Ranked is shit for many reasons, and none of them have anything to do with the vaulted RGMs that a lot of players would rather be playing.
: I thought Riot said URF makes people leave League. Wonder why they made URF an item then :thinkingface:
> [{quoted}](name=Z3Sleeper,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=No9Yhfx8,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-05-06T18:12:52.823+0000) > > I thought Riot said URF makes people leave League. Wonder why they made URF an item then :thinkingface: Let's be fair. URF brings people back to League. URF going back in the vault makes those people go back to whatever game they were playing before URF.
: Please stop making us watch LCS/MSI/w/e for quests.
They do it for the same reason that they vault up all the custom games people would rather be playing over another decade of the same boring LCS Simulator bullshit. LCS is all that matters. They'll hide fun game modes, ruin champions, and try to force us to watch something that isn't even fun to play anymore imho. League can't be fun because of LCS, but they don't give a fuck.
: Thresh is secretly the old Morgana in disguise.
> [{quoted}](name=DCYOUNG888,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=6I3uxH2W,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-05-03T21:08:43.662+0000) > > Thresh is secretly the old Morgana in disguise. Visual update into several consecutive nerfs incoming.
Sarutobi (NA)
: The general rule of thumb is if you cannot dedicate 60mins don't play. If you can only play got a certain amount of time play the other game modes. That's why they were made!
> [{quoted}](name=Sarutobi,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=tqWAhPtz,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-05-03T14:53:40.079+0000) > > The general rule of thumb is if you cannot dedicate 60mins don't play. If you can only play got a certain amount of time play the other game modes. That's why they were made! If only they had a vault full of alternative fun game modes that they could release permanently at any point...
: So why were rotating game modes removed?
1. Too hard to keep them updated. 2. You'll get burned out, and lose interest, even though you've been essentially playing the same thing since WC3. 3. Player feedback. 4. Old client. These are the bad excuses we've been given over the years. Want the real reason? Riot is all in on LCS, and they need us playing LCS Simulator.
: Blue Essence
The BE is actually even more useless when you own all of the champions. I have like 60 unopened capsules, because 2 mouse clicks isn't worth my 'reward' for leveling or gaining honor.
Colte (NA)
: just watch it from torrent and you dont get spoiled {{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}}
> [{quoted}](name=Colte,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Zop60ipE,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-04-30T02:57:08.108+0000) > > just watch it from torrent and you dont get spoiled {{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}} Dude that's some low rent ghetto shit. The quality and experience are just as important as the story. Just fork over the 10 bucks for the finale, and actually enjoy it.
: FUN FACT THERE WAS MORE FUCKING DAMAGE IN THE LAST SYSTEM VS RUNE REFORGED!! there are reasons to hate it why being up something clearly wrong. Mobility creep is fucking just bs since your mad you can't kit a skill shot. Pyke is fine he has less in his kit then thresh or sona wtf is your problem? Zoe is a burst mage so yeah her doing a lot of damage is fine it's the same as an other burst mage. There basically just assassins with more range and utility. Name me one unnecessary rework? Since you probably can't or you have a really stupid reason.
> [{quoted}](name=boricCentaur1,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2hf8FHrf,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-04-29T12:10:08.497+0000) > > Name me one unnecessary rework? Since you probably can't or you have a really stupid reason. **Before** - An AP sustain bruiser, sitting around 50% wr with 2% pick rate, for the better part of 2 years, and had his highest wr top lane. **After** - An AP sustain bruiser pretending to be a tank. Overloaded with cc and stripped of damage to the point that he practically heals enemies when he hits them, and had his sustain nerfed on top of it. He was sacrificed to LC$, reworked out of the lane and out of a fucking identity. His mains were told to fuck off, after years of being arguably the most balanced champion in the damn game. Unwanted, unwarranted, and un-fucking-necessary. White knight all you want, some reworks are absolute shit, and this one tops the list. {{champion:154}}
AIQ (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=MYSTlCFLOW,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7IQ3PsQP,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-04-29T08:35:18.374+0000) > > yeah we want a full zac revert {{champion:154}} Wait you'd rather have his old Q over this one? I'm not a Zac main, but that would seem like a down grade. The new R is much worse, but that Q is insanely better.
> [{quoted}](name=AIQ,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7IQ3PsQP,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-04-29T14:34:22.186+0000) > > Wait you'd rather have his old Q over this one? I'm not a Zac main, but that would seem like a down grade. The new R is much worse, but that Q is insanely better. The new QR cost him his damage, sustain, and ability to top lane, which was where he had his highest wr. He's an AP sustain bruiser pretending to be a tank now. Just revert the whole fuckin thing.
: "Alright, Darius! Looks like it's your turn for buffs!"
Where's the Riot dartboard for champion reworks that no one wanted or asked for? {{item:3073}} {{champion:154}}
: It's because MOBA genre itself is phasing out.
> [{quoted}](name=Abibyama II,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=t1Tjk0Au,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-04-28T19:31:44.056+0000) > > It's because MOBA genre itself is phasing out. Pretty much. Some of us have been playing this same shit since Dota on WC3. I just don't enjoy it anymore. Riot refuses to evolve and unvault the rgms. At this point I'm only interested in playing URF or Hexakill, and nothing else here is worth my time. Instead of evolving they do the opposite, keep game modes vaulted, and attempt to force feed a stale game, balanced around an absurd minority.
: Why does Riot give us things we want, only to take them away?
SC2 is dead as fuck, and custom games have no problem filling, with hundreds to choose from. RGMs won't ruin queue times and if they do then maybe people are just burned the fuck out after a decade of doing the same shit. Riot refuses to evolve. It's just a steady dose of force fed LC$ Simulator. URF doesn't keep me from playing ranked, ranked keeps me from playing ranked. Personally, I don't give a shit about ranks, borders, or who the best professional team is. I just want fun games when I get home from work, and ranked feels like a second fuckin job.
: So let me get this straight.
{{champion:154}} {{champion:98}} {{champion:3}} {{champion:113}} aren't for you. They belong to LC$ now. LCS seriously turned this game into an unfun piece of shit. When is the next RGM?
Bazerka (NA)
: Thank you everyone
I wish that I could care my way into a full Zac revert and more permanent RGMS. Since URF is gone and Zac got ruined, being salty on the forums is how I play League now.
: Riot should be more careful with reworks.
> [{quoted}](name=VolatileAkali,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MppHdafz,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-04-21T11:07:47.049+0000) > Just be careful, I don't want other communities to get fucked by reworks. {{champion:154}} At least the Akali and Aatrox mains can still play their champs in a lane without being reported for trolling.
Leetri (EUW)
: They removed URF because it made twice as many people quit the game permanently as normal. And it's not people quitting cause URF ended, they quit while the mode is still available. In short, URF kills the playerbase.
> [{quoted}](name=Leetri,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Mo3o6Ewi,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-19T22:25:30.065+0000) > > They removed URF because it made twice as many people quit the game permanently as normal. And it's not people quitting cause URF ended, they quit while the mode is still available. > In short, URF kills the playerbase. Lowest number of friends online during URF, 14. Highest number of friends online since it left, 4. URF is fucking HUGE. There are a lot of players who only come back for URF. They are a player majority who represent a vocal minority, because none of my friends come to the forums or say shit when it leaves. We just reluctantly scatter back to other games, and wait for it's return. URF left, and my Discord is back to a mix of friends playing PoE, WoW, Grim Dawn, DoTA customs, etc. I love URF because it brings me back together with a lot of old D2/SC buddies. URF doesn't kill ranked when it leaves, ranked has been dead for a long time for a lot of us, and nothing is bringing it back for us. Make URF permanent and I'll come back with my wallet.
: Riot recently made the best addition ARAM ever got just to remove it mere days later...
URF not being permanent, Blitz is gone, ARAM bans are gone, and TT is still an active dumpster fire. Riot is forcing us to play LC$ Simulator by removing anything else that anyone finds fun. "Play ranked. Watch LCS. You like those things. They're fun. Other game modes aren't. Old client. Feedback." Anything that keeps us away from another decade of the same old stale shit gets self sabotaged.
: The only thing that will make this even better is if Zac's Q gets reverted as well {{sticker:zombie-nunu-hearts}}
> [{quoted}](name=Zacaroni Salad,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=wlGaL2WZ,comment-id=0047,timestamp=2019-04-13T00:49:48.014+0000) > > The only thing that will make this even better is if Zac's Q gets reverted as well {{sticker:zombie-nunu-hearts}} If his Q and R both get reverted, they can give him back his damage and sustain as well. The Q R is why he was gutted as bruiser. Without all of the 'BIG LC$ PRO PLAYZ CC BRO' his damage can come out of the toilet so he can lane again. There's only 2 things that can bring me back to this game, URF/ARURF or top lane Zac.
Lexy123 (EUNE)
: Dota 2 arcade is hands down best way to do it. Riot even has plethora of game modes already to start it off. 1forAll URF Nexus Blitz Dominion Ascension All of these are fully fleshed out ideas that are amazing and feel extremely satisfying to play.
> [{quoted}](name=Lexy123,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ERVjwgPx,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-04-14T10:37:21.312+0000) > > Dota 2 arcade is hands down best way to do it. Riot even has plethora of game modes already to start it off. > > 1forAll > URF > Nexus Blitz > Dominion > Ascension > > All of these are fully fleshed out ideas that are amazing and feel extremely satisfying to play. This would be enough to get me and my rl buddies back. I want silly fun throwaway games, not stressed try hard ranked.
: Post MSI Gameplay Improvements
> [{quoted}](name=RiotScruffy,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=wlGaL2WZ,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-04-12T16:58:22.664+0000) > > * **Zac** - We’re currently testing a mostly reverted version of the Ult with a few improvements to help it have more clear gameplay and understandable impact. Don't stop there. Zac needs a full revert. Prior to this horrible rework, Zac's highest win rate was top lane, as an AP sustain bruiser. You took his damage, his sustain, and his ranged aoe. He is absolutely unplayable in the lane. Jungle Zac? Support is your most auto filled role. Zac is a support who goes jungle, incapable of dealing damage or functioning without the more competent team. You can't even tell the good Zacs from the bad ones anymore. You completely took his identity as a bruiser. Now I see him called a tank. He has no shields, defensive buffs, or mitigation. He's an old sustain bruiser who can't sustain anymore, so now he's just lost. The entire kit must be reverted for him to regain his laning tools and his damage. We never asked for this horrible rework. Give this poor bastard his identity back, and give the Zac mains a reason to play him.
: A Zac revert would be nice
His highest win rate was top lane, where he functioned as an AP sustain bruiser. The rework gutted his damage, survival, and range, making him unplayable. This rework wasn't asked for or needed. Riot embarrassed themselves with this shit rework.
no0kiee (EUW)
: this game is broken, today i quit, cya guys.
I quit ranked solo when Zac got reworked into this new shit jungle support thing for LCS or whatever. I haven't uninstalled in hopes of URF returning permanently, or by some chance Riot finds the interdimensional wormhole that can get Hexakill to the new client. Good choice OP, because this game is just bad now.
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