Enderkk (NA)
: Lul "not even rage in these chat logs" lul. Typical NA player. the "gg report team" kinda dude. I respect you lul. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
> [{quoted}](name=EnderStormz82,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xxbB3cyX,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2017-10-23T23:30:50.897+0000) > > Lul "not even rage in these chat logs" lul. Typical NA player. the "gg report team" kinda dude. I respect you lul. > > {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} I rarely report anyone, I don't even care honestly. I leave the end game screen immediately then move on to the next game unless I see something which I consider to be inappropriate such as threats or racism. I barely even chat in game, which is part of the point behind this post. I was honor level 3, semi flaming behavior in 2 games, and instantly chat restricted. Supposedly, the system won't punish you without consistent poor behavior, so where is it? If someone from Riot wants to step up and say that 2 games is "consistent unsportsmanlike conduct", then I'll accept it. I do not consistently portray this behavior however and 2 off-games really shouldn't have been triggering the system to give me a chat restriction. Also, to all the hate I see in this post... all I have for you is this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jvp5z4z2biw
Xidphel (NA)
: People are able to show restraint. Muting helps. As for the scale, 8. Good enough so that consistent use gets you punished.
> [{quoted}](name=Xidphel,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xxbB3cyX,comment-id=00000000000000010000,timestamp=2017-10-23T06:14:35.261+0000) > > People are able to show restraint. Muting helps. > > As for the scale, 8. Good enough so that consistent use gets you punished. If that's an 8, Riot needs to ban every person I've played with on this account for like the last 30+ games.
Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Best Ekko NA,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xxbB3cyX,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-23T05:53:38.674+0000) > > Passive aggressive remarks are just that. Are they better? Probably not. How else do you respond? Mute them? Say nothing? Honestly, yes, if the things you say aren't just you being pissed at your allies, just mute ignore and move on, what do you get out of saying anything to them? >I wasn't flaming anyone in my games. Best Ekko NA: clearly reksai loves losing Best Ekko NA: so he can lose Best Ekko NA: no Best Ekko NA: nope Best Ekko NA: im letting reksai Best Ekko NA: lose the game Best Ekko NA: since he doesn't like being useful How is this not flaming? >In the first game, I was far far far behind after getting destroyed by Pantheon. Our Jungler did nothing to help, even when I was right in front of him several times he'd turn and go the other direction intentionally, leaving me to die. Your jungler was 10/7/12, maybe they honestly believed that there was no point helping you and decided to snowball other lanes. >I went Bot after realizing how hopeless it was to stay in my lane, then got accused of being AFK. I tried to be productive, however Bot did not like that I was down there. Your score tells another story. >My statements about losing are simply implying the reality behind the Junglers decision, there isn't even anything "toxic" or unsportsmanlike about them. Team later tried forking me, like it was my fault that we were losing. You let your lane free farm and do as he pleased likely roaming while you typed and didn't really do anything to help the team. I also repeat, how is saying that the loss will be Rek Sai's fault, unsportsmanlike, how is blaming one person for a loss, unsportsmanlike? > That second game, was a curb stomp. The enemy team sat around invading my Jungle over and over again. No one followed their lanes, no one warded anywhere. Our Malphite was doing some really weird things, dying quite a lot, and usually never grouped with the team. At level 1, I was taking the other team's red, Malphite ran his laner right into me taking the red buff. Trust me, I wanted out of that game. What else can you say to try to get your team to surrender? Not say anything, and not try to get your team to surrender. Riot doesn't want people just giving up nor want people just afking or insulting people.
> [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xxbB3cyX,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-23T06:09:18.800+0000) > > Honestly, yes, if the things you say aren't just you being pissed at your allies, just mute ignore and move on, what do you get out of saying anything to them? > > Best Ekko NA: clearly reksai loves losing > Best Ekko NA: so he can lose > Best Ekko NA: no > Best Ekko NA: nope > Best Ekko NA: im letting reksai > Best Ekko NA: lose the game > Best Ekko NA: since he doesn't like being useful > > How is this not flaming? > > Your jungler was 10/7/12, maybe they honestly believed that there was no point helping you and decided to snowball other lanes. > > Your score tells another story. > > You let your lane free farm and do as he pleased likely roaming while you typed and didn't really do anything to help the team. I also repeat, how is saying that the loss will be Rek Sai's fault, unsportsmanlike, how is blaming one person for a loss, unsportsmanlike? > > Not say anything, and not try to get your team to surrender. Riot doesn't want people just giving up nor want people just afking or insulting people. **1. What do you get out of saying anything to them?** Good point. Brings me back to the title, it's a crime to chat in this game. You get nothing. **2. How is this not flaming?** There wasn't anything inappropriate said there, even more so when you see his score. The game was his to win, and his to lose. He felt like helping me was not the correct choice, and I thought otherwise. There isn't anything flaming about that. **3. Your score tells another story.** Nearly every single death I had in the game, was from Zed using his ultimate on me. I died once or twice to Pantheon, and every other time was a death related to Zed's massive damage hitting me in the face. I did try to help my team, however I was under farmed and didn't have items to be able to accomplish anything useful. **4. You let your laner free farm.** What do you want me to do, keep dying to him and feed him instead? He had more than enough damage to tower dive me, as well as a Jungler who would visit top side, contrasting to my own who won't even look at top lane. If he wants to free farm, he's going to free farm. There isn't anything I'm capable of doing to stop him as an under-leveled champion that he counters. **5. Not say anything, not try to get your team to surrender.** Sure, as soon as they remove the option to surrender I'll take you right up on that one.
Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Best Ekko NA,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xxbB3cyX,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-10-23T05:27:00.488+0000) > > What is there to discuss? > I didn't get banned. > There's not even rage in these chat logs, little to nothing even wrong except one single bad word which wasn't even aimed at a player. > > I don't usually talk too much in games, which is why they can't even come up with a 3rd chat log. > > There's a lot to discuss here, because the system clearly reacted based upon the people who were raging and at fault reporting me. Best Ekko NA: im so raging man Best Ekko NA: done with top Best Ekko NA: not going back Best Ekko NA: jungler doesn't want to help Best Ekko NA: then so be it Best Ekko NA: clearly reksai loves losing Best Ekko NA: so he can lose Best Ekko NA: no Best Ekko NA: nope Best Ekko NA: im letting reksai Best Ekko NA: lose the game Best Ekko NA: since he doesn't like being useful Best Ekko NA: pantheon is ekko's biggest counter Best Ekko NA: enjoy your loss report away Best Ekko NA: I've done nothing wrong Best Ekko NA: then win it Best Ekko NA: if u were capable of carrying this game Best Ekko NA: you would win without me doing much of anything Best Ekko NA: which is the point Best Ekko NA: you need me Best Ekko NA: and yet, you didn't help me Best Ekko NA: now whose fault is that? Best Ekko NA: because u guys wouldn't help me Best Ekko NA: u essentially said that u don't need me Best Ekko NA: btw I haven't anything wrong, u tilted yourself Best Ekko NA: just ff Best Ekko NA: our top is so bad Best Ekko NA: there is no saving this game Best Ekko NA: it's over Best Ekko NA: trust me You make remarks about how raging allies reported you, yet make passive aggressive ones like this like it is better? I get it, people aren't always amazing, people fuck up, no one likes have their lane thrown or not getting help, but what is the point of enticing your allies to flame you? To berate them like this. Saying I need help is one thing, but basically implying you aren't going to play the game if they don't help you is not ok, what isn't clear about that?
> [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xxbB3cyX,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-23T05:35:04.764+0000) > > Best Ekko NA: im so raging man > Best Ekko NA: done with top > Best Ekko NA: not going back > Best Ekko NA: jungler doesn't want to help > Best Ekko NA: then so be it > > Best Ekko NA: clearly reksai loves losing > Best Ekko NA: so he can lose > Best Ekko NA: no > Best Ekko NA: nope > Best Ekko NA: im letting reksai > Best Ekko NA: lose the game > Best Ekko NA: since he doesn't like being useful > > Best Ekko NA: pantheon is ekko's biggest counter > Best Ekko NA: enjoy your loss report away > Best Ekko NA: I've done nothing wrong > Best Ekko NA: then win it > Best Ekko NA: if u were capable of carrying this game > Best Ekko NA: you would win without me doing much of anything > Best Ekko NA: which is the point > Best Ekko NA: you need me > Best Ekko NA: and yet, you didn't help me > Best Ekko NA: now whose fault is that? > Best Ekko NA: because u guys wouldn't help me > Best Ekko NA: u essentially said that u don't need me > Best Ekko NA: btw I haven't anything wrong, u tilted yourself > > Best Ekko NA: just ff > Best Ekko NA: our top is so bad > Best Ekko NA: there is no saving this game > Best Ekko NA: it's over > Best Ekko NA: trust me > > You make remarks about how raging allies reported you, yet make passive aggressive ones like this like it is better? I get it, people aren't always amazing, people fuck up, no one likes have their lane thrown or not getting help, but what is the point of enticing your allies to flame you? To berate them like this. Saying I need help is one thing, but basically implying you aren't going to play the game if they don't help you is not ok, what isn't clear about that? Let's put it this way, on a scale of 1-10, how bad are these two logs? I didn't sit there calling everyone retards and idiots like I see other people doing on a daily basis in this game. The fact is, even if I was slightly out of line with my aggression, there's only two games and they are very minuscule. If this is punishable, there should be far more people permanently banned in this game.
Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Best Ekko NA,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xxbB3cyX,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-10-23T05:27:00.488+0000) > > What is there to discuss? > I didn't get banned. > There's not even rage in these chat logs, little to nothing even wrong except one single bad word which wasn't even aimed at a player. > > I don't usually talk too much in games, which is why they can't even come up with a 3rd chat log. > > There's a lot to discuss here, because the system clearly reacted based upon the people who were raging and at fault reporting me. Best Ekko NA: im so raging man Best Ekko NA: done with top Best Ekko NA: not going back Best Ekko NA: jungler doesn't want to help Best Ekko NA: then so be it Best Ekko NA: clearly reksai loves losing Best Ekko NA: so he can lose Best Ekko NA: no Best Ekko NA: nope Best Ekko NA: im letting reksai Best Ekko NA: lose the game Best Ekko NA: since he doesn't like being useful Best Ekko NA: pantheon is ekko's biggest counter Best Ekko NA: enjoy your loss report away Best Ekko NA: I've done nothing wrong Best Ekko NA: then win it Best Ekko NA: if u were capable of carrying this game Best Ekko NA: you would win without me doing much of anything Best Ekko NA: which is the point Best Ekko NA: you need me Best Ekko NA: and yet, you didn't help me Best Ekko NA: now whose fault is that? Best Ekko NA: because u guys wouldn't help me Best Ekko NA: u essentially said that u don't need me Best Ekko NA: btw I haven't anything wrong, u tilted yourself Best Ekko NA: just ff Best Ekko NA: our top is so bad Best Ekko NA: there is no saving this game Best Ekko NA: it's over Best Ekko NA: trust me You make remarks about how raging allies reported you, yet make passive aggressive ones like this like it is better? I get it, people aren't always amazing, people fuck up, no one likes have their lane thrown or not getting help, but what is the point of enticing your allies to flame you? To berate them like this. Saying I need help is one thing, but basically implying you aren't going to play the game if they don't help you is not ok, what isn't clear about that?
> [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xxbB3cyX,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-23T05:35:04.764+0000) > > Best Ekko NA: im so raging man > Best Ekko NA: done with top > Best Ekko NA: not going back > Best Ekko NA: jungler doesn't want to help > Best Ekko NA: then so be it > > Best Ekko NA: clearly reksai loves losing > Best Ekko NA: so he can lose > Best Ekko NA: no > Best Ekko NA: nope > Best Ekko NA: im letting reksai > Best Ekko NA: lose the game > Best Ekko NA: since he doesn't like being useful > > Best Ekko NA: pantheon is ekko's biggest counter > Best Ekko NA: enjoy your loss report away > Best Ekko NA: I've done nothing wrong > Best Ekko NA: then win it > Best Ekko NA: if u were capable of carrying this game > Best Ekko NA: you would win without me doing much of anything > Best Ekko NA: which is the point > Best Ekko NA: you need me > Best Ekko NA: and yet, you didn't help me > Best Ekko NA: now whose fault is that? > Best Ekko NA: because u guys wouldn't help me > Best Ekko NA: u essentially said that u don't need me > Best Ekko NA: btw I haven't anything wrong, u tilted yourself > > Best Ekko NA: just ff > Best Ekko NA: our top is so bad > Best Ekko NA: there is no saving this game > Best Ekko NA: it's over > Best Ekko NA: trust me > > You make remarks about how raging allies reported you, yet make passive aggressive ones like this like it is better? I get it, people aren't always amazing, people fuck up, no one likes have their lane thrown or not getting help, but what is the point of enticing your allies to flame you? To berate them like this. Saying I need help is one thing, but basically implying you aren't going to play the game if they don't help you is not ok, what isn't clear about that? Passive aggressive remarks are just that. Are they better? Probably not. How else do you respond? Mute them? Say nothing? I wasn't flaming anyone in my games. In the first game, I was far far far behind after getting destroyed by Pantheon. Our Jungler did nothing to help, even when I was right in front of him several times he'd turn and go the other direction intentionally, leaving me to die. I went Bot after realizing how hopeless it was to stay in my lane, then got accused of being AFK. I tried to be productive, however Bot did not like that I was down there. My statements about losing are simply implying the reality behind the Junglers decision, there isn't even anything "toxic" or unsportsmanlike about them. Team later tried forking me, like it was my fault that we were losing. That second game, was a curb stomp. The enemy team sat around invading my Jungle over and over again. No one followed their lanes, no one warded anywhere. Our Malphite was doing some really weird things, dying quite a lot, and usually never grouped with the team. At level 1, I was taking the other team's red, Malphite ran his laner right into me taking the red buff. Trust me, I wanted out of that game. What else can you say to try to get your team to surrender?
Jamaree (NA)
: You don't actually want discussion, you don't see what is wrong, you are just here to rant and have people who were also fairly banned rally on your side, so what was the point of this post?
> [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xxbB3cyX,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-10-23T05:24:46.684+0000) > > You don't actually want discussion, you don't see what is wrong, you are just here to rant and have people who were also fairly banned rally on your side, so what was the point of this post? What is there to discuss? I didn't get banned. There's not even rage in these chat logs, little to nothing even wrong except one single bad word which wasn't even aimed at a player. I don't usually talk too much in games, which is why they can't even come up with a 3rd chat log. There's a lot to discuss here, because the system clearly reacted based upon the people who were raging and at fault reporting me.
Rioter Comments
: I think a better question is why do players with Riven in their names always act like this
> [{quoted}](name=Gríff,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LtYJXehA,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-09-05T02:40:52.129+0000) > > I think a better question is why do players with Riven in their names always act like this Hi, I'm back. Does this help your ego any?
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Darkrown (EUNE)
: Dragon Trainer Heimerdinger
This would be such a good Ultimate skin for Heimer. :O
: No champions should have access to %damage reduction except for tanks and MAYBE juggernauts
Everyone is always complaining about ADC's, they have always been strong in all seasons. They are ranged DPS who are meant to be able to kill if they aren't dealt with. They don't have the word "carry" in their name just to make their title look good. * Mage & Assassin > Attack Damage Carry * Attack Damage Carry > Tank & Bruiser * Tank & Bruiser > Burst The champions who are supposed to be capable of taking down ADC's do their job just fine. The Attack Damage Carry's who are meant to kill tanks, also do their job just fine. Tanks are not meant to even be capable of 1v1'ing an ADC. The only logical and realistic reason that a Tank should be able to was is if their team has an item / gold lead. If an Attack Damage Carry has a lead, they SHOULD be able to kill anyone, because that's what their job is. It's up to the other team to figure out a method to stop them with teamwork and outplaying them. If you think Tanks were any better in early seasons, you're way wrong. I'm just gonna drop this here so you knuckle heads understand that ADC's have NEVER been weak and aren't supposed to be. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXohtE2SRPg
: It's good that players need more champions to enter ranked, it keeps the noobs out a little longer until they might get a clue about how the game is played.
> [{quoted}](name=Shuyin178,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KkWN00E9,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-06-23T23:35:57.120+0000) > > It's good that players need more champions to enter ranked, it keeps the noobs out a little longer until they might get a clue about how the game is played. The thing is, ranked and normal draft have the same requirements. Players leveling their accounts are unable to play Normal Draft due to the very high requirement of 20 champions and not enough available champions to purchase while leveling. It's pretty painful that I am forced to Support almost 99% of my games leveling this account simply because I am unable to unlock more champions. Most of these games I also could be winning, if I wasn't in the Support role.. thus it's taking me longer than it should to level as well.
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: I like how ekko is so interactive in lane.
Here are some numbers to help you understand why Ekko is a champion who has to passively clear waves, I used Riven as an example: --> --> --> --> --> --> --> --> Lv. 1 Riven (80 AD, 0 AP) Base Health: 558 Auto Attacks: 3 @ 80 AD = 240 Q [Rank 1]: Cooldown: 13 Seconds After Q1 80 AD = 126 damage Passive: 60 damage Total Damage: 426 damage ---- Lv. 1 Ekko (20 AP, 55 AD) Base Health: 580 Auto Attacks: 3 @ 55 AD = 165 Q [Rank 1]: Cooldown 11 seconds 55 AD = 0 damage 20 AP = 118 damage Passive: 46 damage Total Damage: 329 damage ---- Riven vs Ekko Lv.1 Attack Spd: Base = .625 (Equal) Ekko Remaining Health (First Engage) = 154 (2 Auto @ 80 AD) Riven Remaining Health (First Engage) = 229 (5 Auto @55 AD) **Note** -- Real damage reductions vs Armor & Magic Resist not applied, however wouldn't necessarily change the result (As both have similar base Armor & MR) -- --> --> --> --> --> --> --> --> As you can see, Ekko does not do well in the early game. While this doesn't take into consideration Keystones, it gets even worse as he's out damaged completely regardless so factoring that won't help at all. Even say Ekko re-engages at the perfect time when Riven's Q is still on cool down, the 2 second gap will only be enough for a Q + Auto, which still won't be enough to bring down Riven before she kills him with plain auto's. It's a hard world for Ekko players. You farm the best you can all game and hope you can make some big plays mid to late game.
: when does a "bad game" turn into intentional feeding, when does constructive criticism turn into...
> [{quoted}](name=Pink Leg Warmers,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kwhuEfAj,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-06-21T20:26:30.503+0000) > > flame > > serious question. > > having just watched a rakan not peel for his Xayah adc iofc asked him first why not then asked him to do so, his and the teams answer > > "stop flaming and blaming him" > > having just watched my 3/13 kindred invade the enemies red and then become 3/14 i ofc asked why are you even trying to do it, he says > > "i'm having a bad game" > > so when does a bad game turn into mindless feeding and criticism to flame? For me, the difference is whether or not the player is actually doing anything that would show he's dying on purpose. For example: * Running into the enemy's towers, dying to them over and over (running it down mid). * Running into the enemies and dying without trying to fight them. * Spamming attempts at killing enemies with no regards to the surroundings or past results (1v1'ing the enemy Jungler, dying, then charging at them again into a 1v3 to attempt fighting the enemy Jungler once more). There are definite intentions in all of these actions, which shows they aren't trying to win the game anymore. Anything outside of this, is likely just a difference in skill, getting outplayed, lag, or the enemy being too far ahead in items and gold to deal with reasonably.
: Please Make "Target Champions Only" a Toggle
: I like how ekko is so interactive in lane.
1. Ekko doesn't really have any high AP ratios and his base damages were nerfed due to tank Ekko being too safe. He takes 1+ items to even do remotely decent damage (compared to the massive damage many Top laners can do from level 1.. like Riven, Renekton, and Fiora.). Instead he's forced to rely purely on items like Hextech Revolver and Sheen early on to deal any type of decent damage. - 2. Ekko requires either a huge lead or multiple spell rotations to have any kill pressure, early his cool downs are fairly long for the small amount of base damages and ratios they have. - 3. Early into the game, Ekko also has some pretty huge mana problems.. this alone prevents Ekko from being able to kill anyone with sustain. - 4. At no point in the game does Ekko ever acquire any sustain aside from his ultimate, meaning if he takes a bad trade he's immediately forced into backing to base. - 5. Both Ekko's Q (the returning portion) and W are fairly difficult to land. Ekko is really annoying to deal with, but as a whole Ekko is far from an easy champion to use. Punishing Ekko any harder with further nerfs would almost make him unplayable, if anything he needs left alone or even some slight buffs to his W + E.

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