: Olaf vs. Everything 2
I stand alone 1 v 9 against my ELO
: Just because they aren't punished at a rate you want, doesn't mean they aren't punished. Does the punishment system need to be faster for it? Yes. Is there something that can be hard coded into a detection system to help? Not without banning the worse legitimate players. I also doubt you have a troll every single game. It is more likely you just want to blame someone and the simplest thing to do is go: "omg xyz is a troll."
> [{quoted}](name=Imperial Pandaa,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Fmgu0GIA,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-01-26T13:47:09.270+0000) > > Just because they aren't punished at a rate you want, doesn't mean they aren't punished. Does the punishment system need to be faster for it? Yes. Is there something that can be hard coded into a detection system to help? Not without banning the worse legitimate players. > > I also doubt you have a troll every single game. It is more likely you just want to blame someone and the simplest thing to do is go: "omg xyz is a troll." nope nearly every game...it is very rare to not have a feeder or afk or some guy keeps spamming FF when we can win etc
: > Why does riot games consistently and without hesitation punish flaming harder than any other behaviour in league, when it is the only type of negative behaviour that arguably doesn't lose people games most of the time? They don't punish it harder. Intentional feeding, for example, will get you instantly suspended for 14 days, whereas verbally abusing others will subject you to a gradually increasing punishment ladder (10-game c.r., 25-game c.r., 14-day account suspension, permanent suspension). The reason why they're more consistently issued is that chat related offences are fairly easy to detect and punish (everything is crystal clear in one's chat log(s)), whereas gameplay related offences require a bit more information to be dealt with.
> [{quoted}](name=KDA Umbra,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Fmgu0GIA,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-26T13:19:02.981+0000) > > They don't punish it harder. Intentional feeding, for example, will get you instantly suspended for 14 days, whereas people who verbally abuse others get punished in increments (10-game c.r., 25-game c.r., 14-day account suspension, permanent suspension). > > The reason why they're more consistently issued is that chat related offences are fairly easy to detect and punish (everything is crystal clear in one's chat log(s)), whereas gameplay related offences require a bit more information to be dealt with. Feeding is not punished in any of the cases I have seen and reported and watched. Trolling is not punished in any of the cases I have seen. I watched several Tahm Kinches troll team mates and throw their adc under enemy tower to throw games. Over and over. Just kept playing. I would like to see some actual data showing people who were reported versus people who received bans.
reksighs (EUW)
: The Root of Toxicity
I agree and have been saying this for years. I got several 15 days and then a perma ban on one account just for telling morons they were morons. I have had 3 people winning a game and then when I got my 3rd item and we were going to finish, they all walked into the enemy fountain over and over for 15 minutes. They even ghosted to get there quicker. I have seen ever kind of troll there is. But the only that is punished is words in chat. And for all you yappy assholes who are gonna pop up and say trolls are punished.......fuckoff now. They are not. I reported and tracked several and they just kept playing for weeks no ban. I even had one guy in 3 or 4 games one night. What are the odds? I refuse to play with any Tahm Kinch. Half of them intentionally throw games. I changed my config file so the position of chat is -100. You can move the box off the screen by dragging it in game, but mine is off the map from the beginning. No you don't need chat for anything. The only thing chat does is give people a way to antagonize and ban you. I also report every troll every game. So far it is rare that I don't have at least one a game. Used to play a lot , finally just got meh. The whole thing is rigged in favor of a small group of champs and people with better hardware and low ping. All these dash and invisible and un targetable champs that also do one shot damage are just shit to play against.
: Winning these days is about getting the best bad player.
I have noticed that all I need to have a good solid win is just a team of 5 average players who are familiar with their champs and making an effort to win for most of the game. 5 solid B1 players could move up to silver easy. But of you have all the randoms, you have to be low gold just to get out of bronze. I have so many afk, trolls, feeders, flamers etc. it is just demotivating. Most days I just log off after 2 or 3 games. I used to play 60 hours a week. Down to maybe 5 or 10 now.
: Problems with the rewards of "Watch and Earn"
Watch and Earn 1 Watch 3 live games or VODs from any global league on watch.lolesports.com 5 DAYS LEFT 1 / 3 After watching over 5 games. From beginning to end through all the pointless talking.
: > [{quoted}](name=nubulas2,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GNdq1U74,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2018-11-17T07:56:01.930+0000) > > Today's youth are being educated at such a high level, they have trouble understanding irony. I very well know the difference between sarcasm and irony.
> [{quoted}](name=The Spicy Crit,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GNdq1U74,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2018-11-17T10:25:57.070+0000) > > I very well know the difference between sarcasm and irony. I am sure you do. But if you really believe that, but don't....wouldn't that be sarcastic?
: Death's dance now heals for ALL damage dealt
Played it yesterday, didn't seem much different TBH. I would like a new stat screen added to end of game to show damage and healing etc for each item, like they do with runes now. Really enjoy comparing how each one affects the game play.
: It’s called «sarcastic» and «sarcasm» not «ironic» or «irony»
> [{quoted}](name=Frontline Fury,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GNdq1U74,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-11-16T07:05:22.796+0000) > > It’s called «sarcastic» and «sarcasm» not «ironic» or «irony» Today's youth are being educated at such a high level, they have trouble understanding irony.
: Hear me out. Instead of Perma-banning people for toxicity
This is one of the most annoying voice overs...I like some of the champs voices, but last year I found the mute voice and never went back. I like playing teemo, but I can't listen to him. YI and Yasou have nice voice and effects. If you wanted to really tilt people , there should be an April fools "bug" that makes ALL champs use teemo's voice and disable mute voice and mute sound.
nubulas2 (NA)
: I don't get how match making works
Same today 5 games with afk and 3 all lanes feed and throw out of 8 games. went from S5 to 100LP back to 0 to 30 and now about to get demoted. but it is all fair and balanced.
Rioter Comments
floo (EUW)
: IIrc you had 2x3 bans before. So all I'm saying is, there would be even less bans affecting each team. There's also a strategic aspect behind banning. Leave something open to play, but risk to get it picked by the enemy. Ban something and accept that you can't play it either. It's good the way it's right now.
all I am saying is that your bans should only affect the other team. Why should you be trying to limit your own team? you ban 5 from the the enemy side not your side.
nubulas2 (NA)
: B5 forced to play against gold for ranked
ok I won ONE game in all my placements and got placed as Silver 5?????? This makes even less sense to me. I have never been ranked above B3 Since S5.
floo (EUW)
: That would leave you with even less bans than before the 10 ban system. 5 bans per game would be horrible these days, where I'd like to have 20. Just because he has the option, doesn't mean it's a thing he should abuse. If you'd be in a bank and the entire staff is outside for a smoke break, you still shouldn't take money from there, just because you have the opportunity.
What you are saying makes no sense. You would still have 5 bans but your bans would only affect the other team not your team. Which is the way it should work. You are banning so they don't play the champ.
nubulas2 (NA)
: B5 forced to play against gold for ranked
update on placements....still playing against gold and silver as a B5 8 games played....7 absolute stomps and one win.
: > [{quoted}](name=nubulas2,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yWKXGAeE,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-10T10:58:51.770+0000) > > Have the same experience. Getting filled as support feels like you are along for the ride. This is why mage supports are way better in low elo. This is because a Lux or a Brand actually CAN carry the game, even as the support, so it's a lot easier to climb on these champions. The problem is the one that I fell into -- you develop a unique playstyle as you climb and it doesn't translate well into higher ranks.
I got pretty good with morg last year but I just don't like mages in league. Yeah what works to get you out of bronze doesn't work in the higher elo. I am just not trying to climb anymore, I just gave up completely. Just play a few to waste time. If I don't win one after a couple games, I play a bot game to get win of the day bonus and log off.
: > [{quoted}](name=nubulas2,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=i4BjZkhj,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-10T11:51:40.393+0000) > > I have the right and the ability to throw your game No, that's griefing, is against the rules, and results in a 14 day ban when caught. And before your say "banning my hover is griefing too!" No it's not. No one has ever been punished for banning another person's pick, but you do get banned for intentionally throwing games (like you're proposing).
> [{quoted}](name=DrCyanide,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=i4BjZkhj,comment-id=00030000000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-10T12:15:23.448+0000) > > No, that's griefing, is against the rules, and results in a 14 day ban when caught. > > And before your say "banning my hover is griefing too!" No it's not. No one has ever been punished for banning another person's pick, but you do get banned for intentionally throwing games (like you're proposing). "results in a 14 day ban when caught" nope never once...after literally years and hundreds of samples. And yes any troll behavior IS griefing as you are through direct action intentionally causing me grief. All semantics aside. I don't really care what the king troll riot says about either one. You ban me, don't expect me to help you win a game right after that. And a lot of other people seem to feel similarly. So do all your not bannable troll shit and I will throw your passive aggressive troll game and not get banned.
Vuxem (NA)
: Why is a silver 3 and a diamond 3 player allowed in the same fucking game?
https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/general-discussion/YydIO8ws-b5-forced-to-play-against-gold-for-ranked?comment=0000000000010000 I agree.
: If we didn't have the right to do it we'd either be locked out of doing it or punished for doing it. The group that doesn't have "the right" are those threatening to troll or feed. Riot bans new champions in the LCS until the LCS has been on that patch for a week. The same respect *should* be shown to the rest of the player base.
> [{quoted}](name=DrCyanide,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=i4BjZkhj,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2018-11-09T18:26:55.210+0000) > > If we didn't have the right to do it we'd either be locked out of doing it or punished for doing it. The group that doesn't have "the right" are those threatening to troll or feed. > > Riot bans new champions in the LCS until the LCS has been on that patch for a week. The same respect *should* be shown to the rest of the player base. You have the right and ability to ban me. I have the right and the ability to throw your game and ping the shit out of you and vote no on every FF and cntrl-G you every time you die and KS you and steal every cs I can. You're right if I don't get banned for it, it must be ok to do.
floo (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=ı Sona ı,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=i4BjZkhj,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-09T11:41:54.371+0000) > > Well, I do that fairly often. If I don't believe their pick is beneficial to the team competition, banny banny ban ban. Its not to be mean, its just to increase the over all chance of winning as a whole, in my personal opinion. Just because it's your opinion doesn't mean you get to decide what others are supposed to play and what not. Ask them to change their champ, otherwise this isn't the way to go.
Well he has a point. He should not be ale to ban other team mates champ, but since he has the option, he can elect to troll people with it. I would love to be in charge for a few months and push through a bunch of small anti troll patches like not being able to ban your champ in select. I would even go so far as to allow a person to select a champ that their team has already banned. You should be immune to your team mates bans. The bans should only affect what the other team can pick not you.
: > [{quoted}](name=Faneseeker,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=i4BjZkhj,comment-id=00000002,timestamp=2018-11-09T14:12:59.752+0000) > > What other decides to play is never your business. Banning someone else's hover just because you think is a bad choice makes you a humongous troll. You legit thinks you are better than other people do you. > > I was right to call your post out from yesterday. One that seemingly filled with care but really is inflated with cynicism and narcissism. > > Bad Sona. That I have sympathy for players who have lost their accounts/will miss out on end of seasons rewards does not disallow myself the opinion of what I believe is best for my team during a match. >Just because it's your opinion doesn't mean you get to decide what others are supposed to play and what not. Ask them to change their champ, otherwise this isn't the way to go. Well, I mean, technically I am given the option to decide that. I respect your opinion on the matter though. >And who tf are you to judge what other people should play? I've read your post completely, and I feel there is a lot of charged emotion behind it. This is exactly what I'm talking about in and around the game. We are all chess pieces on the board, actually, as we get into League. Amumu would be Rook, Ezreal would be a Bishop Kha'Zik would be a Knight, Diana would be a Queen, and Sona would be King. ;D Haha no but seriously, I do not ban teammates picks because "I feel like it," don't be silly. Its after a fair analysis of the current team comp as it unfolds that allows me to make such a determination. I respect that you believe that I should let others play whatever they want so they can enjoy the game as they please, however by saying that you takeaway my right to be able to play the game however I want in a way aimed to not only have a fun time but also to win. My way involves strengthening my team composition even if another player feels bitter at me for it. While you may think that's being mean, it really isn't.
You are just a troll asshole and you enjoy this passive aggressive bullshit.
: I would say banning someone's champ on purpose is more toxic than half the things that get you punished in this game
> [{quoted}](name=Hi Im Danksley,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=i4BjZkhj,comment-id=00000002000100000000,timestamp=2018-11-09T18:38:35.726+0000) > > I would say banning someone's champ on purpose is more toxic than half the things that get you punished in this game Yep. Most of the actual troll behavior is not even punishable but calling them an asshole is.
: > [{quoted}](name=Faneseeker,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=i4BjZkhj,comment-id=00000002,timestamp=2018-11-09T14:12:59.752+0000) > > What other decides to play is never your business. Banning someone else's hover just because you think is a bad choice makes you a humongous troll. You legit thinks you are better than other people do you. > > I was right to call your post out from yesterday. One that seemingly filled with care but really is inflated with cynicism and narcissism. > > Bad Sona. Why does Riot even allow banning hovers? Shouldn't the button grey out instead of pop up a warning?
> [{quoted}](name=Hi Im Danksley,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=i4BjZkhj,comment-id=000000020001,timestamp=2018-11-09T16:46:53.243+0000) > > Why does Riot even allow banning hovers? Shouldn't the button grey out instead of pop up a warning? I have made the same observation.....just don't allow team mates to ban your pick. Simple. But riot enjoys the troll phase of the game and anything that tilts people and leads to a chat restriction or account ban is great for the game. Ban my champ then feed and troll all game...nothing wrong with any of that. Respond to the troll with a fuku or asshole? oohh no can't have that......banned!
: Well, I do that fairly often. If I don't believe their pick is beneficial to the team competition, banny banny ban ban. Its not to be mean, its just to increase the over all chance of winning as a whole, in my personal opinion.
"its just to increase the over all chance of winning as a whole," Nope, it only means that one player will most likely lose their position to an unfamiliar champ or tilt or just don't care. If you ban me, you better hard carry. You have already reduced my ability and my desire to help you before the game starts.
: > [{quoted}](name=moooooooooooo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=i4BjZkhj,comment-id=000000000000000600000000,timestamp=2018-11-10T02:56:15.863+0000) > > xd mayb thats why you are silver :P the rank shaming is real in here.
> [{quoted}](name=FatedDarkly,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=i4BjZkhj,comment-id=0000000000000006000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-10T04:58:10.757+0000) > > the rank shaming is real in here. Your rank determines how right you are in forums like your kills determine how right you are in game. Especially when they are actually wrong.
: People like you are the reason i choose my champ after ban phase.
> [{quoted}](name=Wolfcub2000,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=i4BjZkhj,comment-id=0000000000000001,timestamp=2018-11-09T12:48:15.518+0000) > > People like you are the reason i choose my champ after ban phase. I used to but now I always pre select so I know if I am playing with an asshole before the game starts. Like I always gank early to see if the laner will even help.
: > [{quoted}](name=Who Fed Ru,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=i4BjZkhj,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-11-09T11:58:28.254+0000) > > Tip: > > It doesn't increase your chances of winning at all if you already tilt your teammates before the game even started and force them on a pick they probably can't even play as well. Or they just go and troll what is just as understandable because you trolled them. While on the surface it may seem like trolling, it is merely to form a more adequate team composition. I can understand that you might not see it that way, however I view League of Legends as a chess game with lots of colors. The more pieces with different capabilities on your side the more likely you are to win. To play the game successfully you have to devoid yourself of the emotions most players choose to take with them into the game. If you tilt from having the character you want to play banned by a teammate that is merely a lack of maturity on your/their part. There are lots of characters to choose from, pick another. But that's the only character i'm good at and this is ranked! … politely, you should go train in normal so that you can play multiple characters and positions ahead of time.
Bull fucking shit. I am not playing to satisfy tour sense of what the forced meta is. I never dodge when they ban my champ. I want to help you asshole lose every time you pull that arrogant shit. You should dodge if your sensibilities are offended by my off meta pick. The very fact that there is a meta is judgmental enough. Why do we have over 140 champs if we are only supposed to play 20 of them and only 3 are viable for each lane? I play what I want to play. Banning my champ is not a good way to win the game. I don't feel you should have your behavior rewarded. Maybe ask me to change and make a suggestion based on some information and I while I may or may not change, at least you are not a douche bag.
AR URF (NA)
: You know what the worst kind of league player is?
You know what the worst kind of league player is? Your mom? I get my champ banned all the time from people who seem to think I should play something else. As if they are the one to make this decision for me. And they even tell me. "That wasn't a good pick, pick a real champ." But that is the champ I am good at or feel like playing. OK...so I pick the one they want me to play, usually come tank shit I have to read the abilities on the way to lane and try to figure out how the scale or what to buy as I realize my runes are all wrong for this champ. And predictably I don't do well and get flamed etc etc. But I picked the unfamiliar champ you said I should pick over the champ I have a 60% win rate with.....so you should be happy.
Vuxem (NA)
: Why is a silver 3 and a diamond 3 player allowed in the same fucking game?
https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/general-discussion/YydIO8ws-b5-forced-to-play-against-gold-for-ranked?comment=0000000000010000 Happens to me quite frequently. I have never been out of bronze so why am I EVER matched against gold and silver? Even went against a few plat players. Yes in ranked.
Seenan (NA)
: Is it a plausible idea to adhere a matchmaking queue for certain amounts of deaths?
or just put them in low priority que like a dodge timer currently does. Give them time to cool off or go do something else and get them out of the system at the same time.
Kaisha (NA)
: Its not a team game, it never was. That was the point of DOTA, teamwork meant little, fed was all that mattered. Honestly the nonsense that gets thrown around on these boards. If you guys actually like MOBAs (and not just DOTA/LOL clones) go play some of the originals. AoS (they were called AoS games back in the day, not MOBA for a reason), ToB, etc... Games where teamwork mattered and items didn't make you god mode. The entire point of DOTA was that you could get a couple lucky kills, get the right items, and solo the opposing team. That's the very anti-thesis of teamwork.
> [{quoted}](name=Kaisha,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yWKXGAeE,comment-id=000a00000000,timestamp=2018-11-10T01:59:53.521+0000) > > Its not a team game, it never was. That was the point of DOTA, teamwork meant little, fed was all that mattered. > > Honestly the nonsense that gets thrown around on these boards. If you guys actually like MOBAs (and not just DOTA/LOL clones) go play some of the originals. AoS (they were called AoS games back in the day, not MOBA for a reason), ToB, etc... Games where teamwork mattered and items didn't make you god mode. > > The entire point of DOTA was that you could get a couple lucky kills, get the right items, and solo the opposing team. That's the very anti-thesis of teamwork. And also how LOL works now. Pick a hyper carry , get lucky early kill with ignite cheese or your jung is your buddy for first 6 minutes and that's it, you won. Unless the other team plays objectives and does not chase you through the jungle into an ambush over and over.
: Hate to disagree with you, but I am Honor 4 and hard stuck silver. I got there by keeping quiet about ally mistakes, joking with allies/enemies, and focusing on my game and what I need to do to improve. I consider myself among the most sportsmanlike players at my elo and it does not have any significant impact on the outcomes of my matches. It doesn't reduce the trolls I get, the flamers I get, the afk's I get. It doesn't reduce the number of times 3+ allies of mine suffer 10+ deaths each. It does nothing to stop the number of times my teams have thrown after securing a lead AND baron. It all boils down to luck. You need to have big win streaks to offset your losses to climb the ladder and that requires being matched with competent players regularly or matched against players who are even less competent about the game mechanics and the champions they play than your team. Either that or you DO have to hard carry your teams by playing at a skill level well beyond that of your current elo. Don't confuse this with me complaining about my experience. I've long since made peace with it and I continue to focus on the one thing I can control and change. And that's me. Maybe, one day, I will make gold or higher. But I'm better off content with what I have than I am allowing frustration consume me over what I have yet to accomplish or achieve.
I agree about 80%. If you added to the toxic it WOULD be worse. But you are right. No amount of effort on your part will counter 4 morons heel bent on losing.
Kaisha (NA)
: And of course being support you're blamed at the end for everything. Bad KDA... you're dragging the team down. Good KDA, you're stealing kills. As support there's nothing you can do to get yourself out of ELO hell solo short of sheer dumb luck. Its funny because the better I play, the less likely I'll win. If I've gone away from a bit and come back, I'm rusty, I don't know the items/changes/new champs, no idea what is what or where to go, missing skill shots, I'll win most games. After getting back into the groove, solid item builds, understand new champs/mechanics, nailing skill shots like a pro... loss after loss after loss. As a solo support, my performance in game has no bearing on the outcome of the game. Unless you are a carry or assassin, you don't matter.
> [{quoted}](name=Kaisha,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yWKXGAeE,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2018-11-10T02:05:33.099+0000) > > And of course being support you're blamed at the end for everything. > > Bad KDA... you're dragging the team down. Good KDA, you're stealing kills. > > As support there's nothing you can do to get yourself out of ELO hell solo short of sheer dumb luck. Its funny because the better I play, the less likely I'll win. If I've gone away from a bit and come back, I'm rusty, I don't know the items/changes/new champs, no idea what is what or where to go, missing skill shots, I'll win most games. After getting back into the groove, solid item builds, understand new champs/mechanics, nailing skill shots like a pro... loss after loss after loss. > > As a solo support, my performance in game has no bearing on the outcome of the game. Unless you are a carry or assassin, you don't matter. Have the same experience. Getting filled as support feels like you are along for the ride.
SHerv (NA)
: What is holding them back is communication perhaps. Everyone has access to chat in champ selection for a reason, even if you are suspended or limited in game. Tell you're team of your intentions. Instant absorption of winning philosophy and mentality is a real thing!
> [{quoted}](name=SHerv,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yWKXGAeE,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-09T20:32:27.740+0000) > > What is holding them back is communication perhaps. Everyone has access to chat in champ selection for a reason, even if you are suspended or limited in game. Tell you're team of your intentions. Instant absorption of winning philosophy and mentality is a real thing! dude the thing holding you back in low elo is having to play with 4 morons who want to steal every cs and KS and then feed and flame and spam FF for 40 minutes and then afk. In every fucking game I stopped caring at all about rank 2 years ago. Why does rank even matter? The point of the game is to waste time and learn to ignore morons better. Having fun stopped in S5 for me.
: Soon™
> [{quoted}](name=TheHobbits,realm=OCE,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=5z4jm2tE,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-11-09T21:34:03.530+0000) > > Soon™ when will then be now? soon
Rioter Comments
Kaisha (NA)
: I came back after years away (quit in Season 4) and played for 2-3 weeks. In that time, of all the games I played, there were only 2 games where the team ahead by 5 kills didn't win. 2... out of nearly 100. This whole 'turns into a win'... yeah just doesn't happen.
> [{quoted}](name=Kaisha,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=1IQJb7ve,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2018-11-10T02:17:41.977+0000) > > I came back after years away (quit in Season 4) and played for 2-3 weeks. In that time, of all the games I played, there were only 2 games where the team ahead by 5 kills didn't win. 2... out of nearly 100. > > This whole 'turns into a win'... yeah just doesn't happen. Happens in bronze a lot because you bronze but so is the other team. Farm it up and run away until eeryone is lvl18 ad full build and the smowball things is less of an issue. They should make the top level come around 12 minutes....or just not have a top level and let people keep leeling up and scale up to 50. OR Imagine if you leveled up only to lvl 6 and all your stats were scaled to 1-6 rather than 1-18. Each level would be bigger but you would dely those level 6 power pikes until later. OR you start with all abilities and each level up just made each ability a little stronger. Of course some balancing would be required .... yeah we don't have balance now , why would need it ever? Woudl be a fun game modes they could put up for a couple months.
: won a 3v5 with vayne and yasuo. link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdCoixWd_yU I wanted to give up too lol. I'm guessing the yasuo was either getting boosted or he was one tricked AF.
> [{quoted}](name=SpaceEnk,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=1IQJb7ve,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2018-11-10T03:52:33.080+0000) > > won a 3v5 with vayne and yasuo. > > link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdCoixWd_yU > > I wanted to give up too lol. I'm guessing the yasuo was either getting boosted or he was one tricked AF. that yasou was less effective than most I have seen. The team you were against was just real bad at stopping the 3 of you. > [{quoted}](name=SpaceEnk,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=1IQJb7ve,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2018-11-10T03:52:33.080+0000) > > won a 3v5 with vayne and yasuo. > > link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdCoixWd_yU > > I wanted to give up too lol. I'm guessing the yasuo was either getting boosted or he was one tricked AF. I won a 3v5 as Udyr but it took over an hour and I was just being stubborn. Ended with 51/3. I thought that was amazing and was the ost outrageous thing I could imagine. The very next day I lost to a Yi who had 52 kills.
: won a 3v5 with vayne and yasuo. link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdCoixWd_yU I wanted to give up too lol. I'm guessing the yasuo was either getting boosted or he was one tricked AF.
> [{quoted}](name=SpaceEnk,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=1IQJb7ve,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2018-11-10T03:52:33.080+0000) > > won a 3v5 with vayne and yasuo. > > link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdCoixWd_yU > > I wanted to give up too lol. I'm guessing the yasuo was either getting boosted or he was one tricked AF. that yasou was less effective than most I have seen. The team you were against was just real bad at stopping the 3 of you.
: > [{quoted}](name=nubulas2,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YydIO8ws,comment-id=0000000000010000,timestamp=2018-11-08T15:24:01.306+0000) > > You are missing the point. Which is expected. Typically the point has to be repeated in every response. > All my accounts are bronze. I don't have any effect on your games if riot will stop trolling me. > Yes it is rude but this is expected. You are all flaming trolls. > > If I were matched accurately, I would be where I should be and there would be no issue. And where should you be then
> [{quoted}](name=Arcanine19,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YydIO8ws,comment-id=00000000000100000000,timestamp=2018-11-08T15:25:41.559+0000) > > And where should you be then not gold is my point. probably never go above S3 And even this is not the point. People hyper focus on the level of people and make a lot of judgments. The elo system doesn't work in LOL and never has. Not since S5 anyway. Every placement I have to play against people I have no chance of beating. And in every promo I have to win against people who are ranked above me. The point of ranking up is to show that you can beat the people below you consistently. If I always win against B1 for example, I would definitely be S5. But just because I can't beat S3 doesn't mean I am B5. Anyway doesn't matter, they wont fix it. I did the same experiment 5 times with same result. After my first year playing, I hit about my level. My best is probably around low silver. With study and more champ knowledge I might creep up to mid to high silver, but without a better PC and better dexterity, I'm not going above silver. But I can't get there. Right now, you need to be carried or be gold to go from bronze to silver. Which doesn't make much sense to me. Not that the rank matters at all. It is just an observation that the system fails in every case I test. Promos should not be any different than any other game, but they are ALWAYS way more difficult. Why is that?
: > [{quoted}](name=nubulas2,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YydIO8ws,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-11-08T13:41:10.491+0000) > > Just start us out as B5 and skip the whole placement mis match. Most people are below gold anyway and if you are not and win over 60% or some number, then move those guys up. Why dont you just play on your main account then. If you know that you aren't good at the game why do you keep creating more accounts just to demote all the way back to bronze? You're one of those that make it impossible for some players that are trying their best to get out of silver and then get placed with people like you on their team just to bring them down... Srry If i sounded rude, but thats what I think about what you're doing
> [{quoted}](name=Arcanine19,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YydIO8ws,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2018-11-08T14:42:50.833+0000) > > Why dont you just play on your main account then. If you know that you aren't good at the game why do you keep creating more accounts just to demote all the way back to bronze? You're one of those that make it impossible for some players that are trying their best to get out of silver and then get placed with people like you on their team just to bring them down... Srry If i sounded rude, but thats what I think about what you're doing You are missing the point. Which is expected. Typically the point has to be repeated in every response. All my accounts are bronze. I don't have any effect on your games if riot will stop trolling me. Yes it is rude but this is expected. You are all flaming trolls. If I were matched accurately, I would be where I should be and there would be no issue.
Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=nubulas2,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YydIO8ws,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-11-08T13:41:10.491+0000) > > currently in ranked with new account. > > 2 games in a row...both horrendous losses and team mates are all pissed. What am I supposed to do? I told them at beginning of game, I can't beat gold players, even in a favorable match up. I don't have the dexterity and PC hardware or knowledge of other champs abilities. > > Same thing happens on every account. I made a few just to test this. > > On one account, I lost 18 games in a row then won one then lost one and was placed in bronze after all that. > > Just start us out as B5 and skip the whole placement mis match. Most people are below gold anyway and if you are not and win over 60% or some number, then move those guys up. Why are you playing on a new account?
> [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YydIO8ws,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-08T13:42:11.828+0000) > > Why are you playing on a new account? Why not? Why is this even the question? Anyone playing a new account will get the same result as me. I have played norms until level 30 and have never played above B3 even on a good day so why does riot think I need to play against gold and silver in placements is the question.
nubulas2 (NA)
: B5 forced to play against gold for ranked
5 in a row so far flamed whole game and this one asshole keeps trying to get people to report me My support leaves and I am 1v3 can't do anything YAY so fun so balanced can't wait until the next patch comes out.
Jamaree (NA)
: Where are you playing against Gold players?
> [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YydIO8ws,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-08T13:12:27.175+0000) > > Where are you playing against Gold players? currently in ranked with new account. 2 games in a row...both horrendous losses and team mates are all pissed. What am I supposed to do? I told them at beginning of game, I can't beat gold players, even in a favorable match up. I don't have the dexterity and PC hardware or knowledge of other champs abilities. Same thing happens on every account. I made a few just to test this. On one account, I lost 18 games in a row then won one then lost one and was placed in bronze after all that. Just start us out as B5 and skip the whole placement mis match. Most people are below gold anyway and if you are not and win over 60% or some number, then move those guys up.
Rioter Comments
: Lawsuit Filed Against Riot Games
seems like a balance issue
Xäyąh (NA)
: Ah yes, if one team is having issues we kick an enemy who is just trying to make the most of his game! And better yet, if you’re having a good game, and DARE have a pingspike? kicked and match ended.
> [{quoted}](name=Xäyąh,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QJZGuV5A,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2018-10-12T10:42:05.915+0000) > > Ah yes, if one team is having issues we kick an enemy who is just trying to make the most of his game! And better yet, if you’re having a good game, and DARE have a pingspike? kicked and match ended. could be tweaked, its a base idea. ping spike does not effect average ping much.
: None of us like it because that would be a *horrible* way to do it and punish not only the leaver but also every single other player in the game.
> [{quoted}](name=Eragonawesome,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QJZGuV5A,comment-id=00090001,timestamp=2018-10-13T06:14:38.114+0000) > > None of us like it because that would be a *horrible* way to do it and punish not only the leaver but also every single other player in the game. Yeah it would elminate all those easy 4v5 wins you love so much
Pika Fox (NA)
: Sucks to be you. Play the game.
no idiot, it sucks for all of us except the trolls of course, which you sound like.
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