Corvin0716 (EUNE)
: > Despite all of your valid and invalid points, it doesn't change the fact that dodge rates have increased and a select few of the champions I purchased are no longer playable because they are always banned. With 2 rerolls and the option to pick other players' rerolled champions it is very unlikely that someone has to dodge because of bad luck. Those who dodge because of the banned champions are 100% aram-only accounts. There is no reason to dodge a game just because a certain champion is banned since there is only 1/143 chance to get it anyway. It is time to get rid of aram-only accounts. Hopefully, they are going to leave aram eventually. Unlock all 143 champions is probably the best, until then bans will do.
> [{quoted}](name=Corvin0716,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NEmHlNNk,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-04-11T13:03:08.608+0000) > > With 2 rerolls and the option to pick other players' rerolled champions it is very unlikely that someone has to dodge because of bad luck. Those who dodge because of the banned champions are 100% aram-only accounts. There is no reason to dodge a game just because a certain champion is banned since there is only 1/143 chance to get it anyway. It is time to get rid of aram-only accounts. Hopefully, they are going to leave aram eventually. > > Unlock all 143 champions is probably the best, until then bans will do. I only play aram and have since it started. Aram accounts usually don't dodge over random because we get a random champion every match. it wouldn't make sense for me to dodge a queue when I get a champ I don't want. That would mean I would have to take temp bans from queueing every few matches which wouldn't be fun. It doesn't seem like you play aram all that much so I'm not sure you understand. It's all the summoners rift regular players that seem to want bans.
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: Aram bans has made things worse
Despite all of your valid and invalid points, it doesn't change the fact that dodge rates have increased and a select few of the champions I purchased are no longer playable because they are always banned.
: Got it. Make all champions available. So 10 champions are not much in comparison to 143 champions.
> [{quoted}](name=Riven Waifu,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NEmHlNNk,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-11T11:53:14.457+0000) > > Got it. Make all champions available. So 10 champions are not much in comparison to 143 champions. taking 1 champion out for every 14 does make a difference since you have to split them up into ADC AP SUP and TANK. now take out almost all of the mages. now you are taking out like 1 in 4 champions since most banned champions are AP.
: > [{quoted}](name=Riven Waifu,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NEmHlNNk,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-11T11:53:14.457+0000) > > Got it. Make all champions available. So 10 champions are not much in comparison to 143 champions. Better yet, lock the mode until you own at least 70 champions. Then it'll be fair.
> [{quoted}](name=The Ecdysiast,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NEmHlNNk,comment-id=00020000000000000001,timestamp=2019-04-11T11:56:42.805+0000) > > Better yet, lock the mode until you own at least 70 champions. Then it'll be fair. That works too, as long as all available champions are in the pool.
: > [{quoted}](name=Fliddle,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NEmHlNNk,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-04-11T11:21:33.849+0000) > > As someone who plays ARAM more than SR, I totally understand you. Though I liked some of the previous changes they made (heal relic, selection of champs your teammates rerolled), bans in ARAM was completely unnecessary and ruined the game mode for me. Getting an OP champ sometimes or having to deal with one on the enemy team and still try to win is what makes the game mode fun for me. Getting busted champs is what creates fiestas, which is what this mode is known and loved for. > > With the bans, up to 10 champions get taken out, which takes the ‘random’ away. For real, they can rename it to “AM: all mid”. Now I’m on a useless melee champ or a support 90% of the time. Needless to say, since many people, Including myself, don’t enjoy ARAM that much anymore, there’s more cases of people not trying to win or going afk. > > I hope this is a temporary thing and they will revert it after the event. If bans is something they want to keep, I’d say they give one ban to each team so it’s like one for all where the champ with the most votes is chosen (to be banned). Not entirely enjoyable but less tilting than one ban per player. "takes the random away" Uh, no, it doesn't. Not unless you have an ARAM-only account where you've specifically lowered the chances of getting a more fair champion by only buying the best ones for the mode. Which is exactly the bullshit they're trying to subdue with the bans.
> [{quoted}](name=The Ecdysiast,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NEmHlNNk,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-04-11T11:25:51.339+0000) > > "takes the random away" > > Uh, no, it doesn't. Not unless you have an ARAM-only account where you've specifically lowered the chances of getting a more fair champion by only buying the best ones for the mode. Which is exactly the bullshit they're trying to subdue with the bans. It most definitely takes the random out of it. It's like playing the lottery but now you ban the jackpot and all you can win is just enough to cover the cost of buying the ticket. You are removing champions from the pool, you are no longer rolling those random champions. You completely missed the important reason why your argument doesn't work. Either way, you can't see when their team gets a "broken" champion. And the champions aren't "broken". There are always teams that can destroy those champions. Like when you get an all tank team against one with lux, ziggs, and xerath. Tank team destroys them late game. I'm guessing you don't have a lot of experience with aram so you should probably stick to the summoner's rift discussions. And bans or no bans people will leave because they are poor sports, they just leave more often now because of the champions they roll because of the bans.
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