: Losing LP for AFKs
Would you give back all the lp you might have gained when your opponents' DC'd? Riot stated that on average you benefit slightly more from afkers, statistically. I believe they're using the logic that 4 people lose lp (+1 afk) but 5 people gain lp. So it's a net positive. That's just my estimation. But also it seems like you're upset because you demoted but if you're good enough then keep playing and you should rank up right? This is just an unfortunate set back that ultimately shouldn't affect where you end up as far as rank goes.
: Patch 8.11 Early Look
Am I playing a different game? When I play ADC, I feel strong at level 1-3. Before anyone has items or ultis, I can use my range safely and effectively. In this League of Mobility, once players have levels and items (I'm sharing both with my support, no one else is) I basically have no chance. Even when I'm full build, I'm not looking for 1v1s in the jungle because I need my team for peel and initiation. This means that bot lane has a big target screaming "weak players here." Throughout the majority of the game as an ADC, I'm looking for farm or siege, not fight. I think this is because marksman items cost so much and we need so many of them, as well as marksmen generally aren't able to keep safe during skirmishes by themselves. If I need 10k gold before I feel strong and want to fight, then it doesn't matter what items I end up with because the entire buildup to those items was miserable. Then, even when I'm strong, I can still get jumped and killed by countless champions. How will these new items changes and runes help marksmen to feel better about being so weak throughout the game? Compare BF sword to Lost Chapter or Phage, I mean this type of disparity is a joke. This lack of gold efficiency is on top of already playing the most mechanically demanding, team dependent role in league of legends. I just can't make sense of these changes. Someone help. TL;DR Marksmen are already abused for their bad midgame, these changes strip even more power away and will create an even bigger power gap between marksmen and everyone else who wants to kill them.
: Permanent Bans are NOT Enough
Riot has actual data to back up these things. Try to keep in mind that your experience is subjective and anecdotal.
Rioter Comments
: Unfun fact: taking Dark Harvest on Ziggs in aram increases your chance of winning by 1,86%
How to properly word this: Players who take Dark Harvest on Ziggs in ARAM have a higher w/r than players who take X. Also, ARAM players suck. I find it pretty balanced that even the best ARAM players still hover around 50% w/r.
: There was no toxicity in this game, Just two teams who didnt want to waste time trying to fight a 4v5.
> [{quoted}](name=Son0fNone,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Fb1ac56w,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-03-01T10:02:49.290+0000) > > There was no toxicity in this game, Just two teams who didnt want to waste time trying to fight a 4v5. If you aren't playing to win then how is that not toxic?
: From my experience, top feels to be the best role to practice impacting the game with little emphasis on KDA. You don't carry unless ridiculously ahead, lane aggression is typically riskier due to junglers so you win through playing the map. Watching simple champ one tricks is best to learn macro, as they aren't about being mechanically superior but just good decision making during the mid to lategame, something a lot of people stuff up with.
> [{quoted}](name=Need Gold 4 Tent,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LQdw6GBE,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-03-01T09:54:20.790+0000) > > From my experience, top feels to be the best role to practice impacting the game with little emphasis on KDA. You don't carry unless ridiculously ahead, lane aggression is typically riskier due to junglers so you win through playing the map. > > Watching simple champ one tricks is best to learn macro, as they aren't about being mechanically superior but just good decision making during the mid to lategame, something a lot of people stuff up with. Singed is an extreme example of this. VS Singed you have to manage your resources very carefully at all stages of the game. Many people struggle against Singed and lose the game simply because of bad decisions. I will say though that Top DOES have less impact on the game overall, meaning that if you can learn to carry from top then carrying from Mid will be even easier. Mid is the easiest carry role to me AFTER jungle.
obsesse (NA)
: Sick KDA bro but this isn't cod
> [{quoted}](name=obsesse,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LQdw6GBE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-03-01T09:49:41.739+0000) > > Sick KDA bro but this isn't cod You can downvote this but if you lost a 29 kill game on Zed then you obviously are focusing on kills but not gaining anything but gold from those kills.
: Cant seem to win at all, losing games with 15-30 kills and fewer than 5 deaths (mid lane)
Zed and Yasuo are garbage lmao don't play those champions and you'll win more games because of it
: Cant seem to win at all, losing games with 15-30 kills and fewer than 5 deaths (mid lane)
: Just a reminder..
I've had the exact same experience but I was crushing my opponents so hard I knew we would win if we had our 5th. Around 20 minutes we could no longer really compete with the spread pressure (and in my game it was jungler DC). I'm going to be straight with you here: don't give up at 6 minutes in any game. I play Hearthstone sometimes, in that game there's a lot of RNG and you can see in certain situations that there's not a single card you could draw to make you win the game. This is called having no 'outs.' Well, there may not be any GAME outs, but for all you know a meteor could land on each one of your opponent's houses. Just play through it, mute the toxicity, if you lose then hey you fucking tried. I'm telling you, the best people, the greatest achievements,these things happen when someone tells you it's impossible. You always have a chance for a meteor, however unlikely it may be.
obsesse (NA)
: "I got banned for literally no reason" "here are all the reasons why"
> [{quoted}](name=obsesse,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=f7cFOMWN,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-02-23T23:31:53.009+0000) > > "I got banned for literally no reason" > > "here are all the reasons why" And honestly the worst part is that you're intentionally misspelling "trigger words" so as to dodge any automated suspension/banning. If you're wondering, when it comes to the absolute worst of the worst in the community, it's literally you, dude. Not only do you have ZERO remorse, you come to the boards to fire shots at riot. You feel UNJUSTLY banned, which blows my mind. you're lying about your own toxicity in order to justify it, meaning you want your actions to be okay. You deserve a perma in every sense.
: Got perma Banned for legit no reason had best kda and carried my team and was not toxic
"I got banned for literally no reason" "here are all the reasons why"
: So even like 4 years from now i can still get permaed about this? Shouldnt i just make a new acc if i want to spend money?
> [{quoted}](name=SmugSmuggy,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=KZooFx20,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-02-23T22:07:02.407+0000) > > So even like 4 years from now i can still get permaed about this? Shouldnt i just make a new acc if i want to spend money? can't you just not be fucking toxic?
: > [{quoted}](name=obsesse,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6kixY3IG,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-02-23T00:02:40.714+0000) > > ADC: ADC sucks, tanks and mages and assassins and supports are too strong > Top: ADC is op, top sucks > Mid: Get 2 shot by {{champion:119}} ADC btw > ADC: *coughs* adc 2018 lul > Jg: You’re both wrong.
> [{quoted}](name=The Wolf King,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6kixY3IG,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-02-23T00:03:51.096+0000) > > You’re both wrong. How is a made-up story wrong XD
: please delete the adc position
ADC: ADC sucks, tanks and mages and assassins and supports are too strong Top: ADC is op, top sucks Mid: Get 2 shot by {{champion:119}} ADC btw ADC: *coughs* adc 2018 lul Jg:
: > [{quoted}](name=obsesse,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=xaccyvVe,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-02-22T17:59:15.297+0000) > > Can you please list every champion in the game that deals true damage Camille Fiora Garen Irelia (i don't know if they will remove it on rework) Twitch Vayne Master Yi Ahri Cho'Gath Darius Olaf Rek'sai Vel'koz These are the ones i could think of, im sure that there are more.
> [{quoted}](name=GuardianOfHyjal,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=xaccyvVe,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-02-22T18:17:10.946+0000) > > Camille > Fiora > Garen > Irelia (i don't know if they will remove it on rework) > Twitch > Vayne > Master Yi > Ahri > Cho'Gath > Darius > Olaf > Rek'sai > Vel'koz > > These are the ones i could think of, im sure that there are more. Thanks! In many of these cases, the conditions are fairly uncontrollable. For instance, Vayne's true damage can't be mitigated, but it scales off %HP and is applied through her **auto attacks**, meaning that if you can reduce her attack speed then you reduce her damage output significantly. Tanks are really strong btw, Ornn was just nerfed because he's so damn strong at all stages. Trust me man, play tanks correctly, build correctly, and every meta tank feels like a raid boss mid to late game.
: Remove true damage from the game??
Can you please list every champion in the game that deals true damage
: jayce would be healthier as a bruiser than as a long ranged assassin sniper
Jayce's identity right now is that of a fighter, not a sniper, right? His playstyle centers around his versatility in combat. He's not _too_ tanky and he doesn't do too much damage. He has sustain, peel, poke, all-in potential, and utility in his kit. His w/r and play rate is healthy. He feels good to play. He has glaring strengths and weaknesses. All of this adds up to one healthy champ.
: > [{quoted}](name=obsesse,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=XfWdMsa9,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-02-22T12:00:01.783+0000) > > I don't think anyone cares about any of the things you said (Zoe E on Howling, 1v1s) you comment is 100% irrelevant
> [{quoted}](name=I Like Teemo,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=XfWdMsa9,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-02-22T14:36:35.194+0000) > > you comment is 100% irrelevant So is talking about Zoe on Howling
Rioter Comments
: jayce would be healthier as a bruiser than as a long ranged assassin sniper
Jayce is like the definition of healthy champ right now lol
: just read the patch notes
I don't think anyone cares about any of the things you said (Zoe E on Howling, 1v1s)
: > [{quoted}](name=obsesse,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=LuN2eABI,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-02-22T11:46:17.957+0000) > > I mostly agree, however champ shards can reduce cost of Mastery upgrading. Also you can disenchant them for BE to ensure that you always can afford the new champions on release. It used to feel horrible when I would open a Chest and get a champ shard. I do hope they revamp these rewards, but for the most part I'm fairly satisfied. Specifically, anything as time consuming as level up rewards should guarantee satisfying rewards, and champions are never satisfying enough. when you stack +30k BE you always can buy new champs ,and i don't worry about mastery levels .i really dont gain anything from this system
> [{quoted}](name=xMaximus69,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=LuN2eABI,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-02-22T11:49:57.256+0000) > > when you stack +30k BE you always can buy new champs ,and i don't worry about mastery levels .i really dont gain anything from this system What did you gain from the old system?
: playing League doesnt feel as rewarding anymore ,and these champion capsuls are useless
I mostly agree, however champ shards can reduce cost of Mastery upgrading. Also you can disenchant them for BE to ensure that you always can afford the new champions on release. It used to feel horrible when I would open a Chest and get a champ shard. I do hope they revamp these rewards, but for the most part I'm fairly satisfied. Specifically, anything as time consuming as level up rewards should guarantee satisfying rewards, and champions are never satisfying enough.
: I've been playing Supporick lately and I wanted to talk about it, its hella fun.
: My Hextech Chest had a key and a chest in it.
Did you get anything else in the chest? AFAIK all loot has a rare bonus reward , basically you get a do over in addition to whatever else you got. So for Lunar Revel I got a revel orb, opened it for a skin and a revel orb. Free skin!
Warios (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=obsesse,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GHnRVtsj,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-02-10T00:05:07.929+0000) > > My lane opponent was Gold 3. Other enemies were bronze. Idk the more I think about it the less it makes sense and it just infuriates me. You never said anything about your lane opponent, you just complained you got matched with someone who lost 5 games in a row, while you have lost 4 in a row.
> [{quoted}](name=Warios,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GHnRVtsj,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-10T00:07:04.009+0000) > > You never said anything about your lane opponent, you just complained you got matched with someone who lost 5 games in a row, while you have lost 4 in a row. Ahh, I see what you mean. My point was that they have 5 games played total, all 5 with the same duo partner, and all 5 were losses which they contributed t significantly. In my game alone they gave up in the first 3 minutes and barely played from that point on. Meanwhile, I did suffer a massive loss streak, felt super bad btw, but in every single game it's a relatively similar situation. I am clearly not a new player, new players should not be in my games. When they are in my games, they get utterly shit on, OR they don't contribute in any way. I'm just wondering why I'm not matched with other Gold players, for instance.
Warios (NA)
: Maybe because you also had 4 losses in a row in norm's so matched you together vs. a weaker team?
> [{quoted}](name=Warios,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GHnRVtsj,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-02-10T00:00:55.514+0000) > > Maybe because you also had 4 losses in a row in norm's so matched you together vs. a weaker team? My lane opponent was Gold 3. Other enemies were bronze. Idk the more I think about it the less it makes sense and it just infuriates me.
: Sadly RIOT does not K-Line the hostmask when they Permaban. I have a theory that most banned today are repeat Permaban offenders who have merely grown in numbers over the years.
> [{quoted}](name=JustaNewb,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GRP2vjYM,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-02-09T23:49:53.220+0000) > > Sadly RIOT does not K-Line the hostmask when they Permaban. I have a theory that most banned today are repeat Permaban offenders who have merely grown in numbers over the years. Are you suggesting they're using p servers? I think the ping would be far too high. Interesting theory though
: > [{quoted}](name=stealthfox94,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=R80qOWWU,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-02-09T23:32:28.595+0000) > > Oh hey look, a "true" Star Wars fan > > > {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}} Star wars is overrated though. Books are ok sometimes and bother to try to fill in terrible plot holes. Then again there's some awful books.
> [{quoted}](name=Player Vehicle,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=R80qOWWU,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-02-09T23:37:03.499+0000) > > Star wars is overrated though. > Books are ok sometimes and bother to try to fill in terrible plot holes. > Then again there's some awful books. Star Wars is overrated, 90s babies man I tell you. "star wars is so overrated and it sucks, now SHAPE OF WATER IS A REAL MOVIE" the fuck outta here with that bull. New Hope won 7 oscars you dolt.
: Enforcement Is Universal
If toxic players cared about how their behavior affects people BEFORE they got on the boards then they wouldn't be toxic
: Dear Toxic Players,
This works perfectly until you hit puberty and realize your diaper is a decade too old.
Rioter Comments
: hey first off id like to say thanks so much for advice and insight, i only have 1 more question for you. do you think its worth climbing after gold? besides borders. in your honest opinion?
> [{quoted}](name=poeticpov,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xfuGKsE0,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-02-08T19:17:22.442+0000) > > hey first off id like to say thanks so much for advice and insight, i only have 1 more question for you. do you think its worth climbing after gold? besides borders. in your honest opinion? I'm a bit late on this reply but it really depends on you. I'm a pretty competitive person, but I don't have as much time as I'd like to play. The difference between a Gold player and a Plat player is pretty trivial; a Gold player will be mechanically decent. but they won't know subtle aspects of the game like wave manipulation, level/item spikes, map pressure, and win conditions. In other words, it starts getting very hard to actually get better at the game past Gold. This is literally why so many Master/Challenger players are one tricks, they get SO GOOD at one champion that they can muscle through a game just by being that damn skilled at their champ. Learning the subtleties is really, really hard and it always changes because of patches. On the other hand, if you're just looking for rewards then there really isn't a reason to grind past Gold. I took a month off so I've been playing normals with a newbie friend, but I hate how casual everyone is. In my solo normal games, like draft, it's not competitive at all. If I played champs I excelled at, I would roflstomp my lane opponent every single game. I'd never learn anything, I'd plateau, etc etc. TL;DR If you enjoy the competitive nature of ranked games, I say grind on. If you want rewards (and to shit on bad kids in normals) then gold it up.
: The CLIMB out of gold
Yeah man, check op.gg for champ win rates and pick rates. Last season I pretty effortlessly climbed with Ahri and she was pretty clearly busted as I kept winning even after she was nerfed. I only played around 200 ranked games total and ended the season Gold 2. I would shoot for playing roughly 500 ranked games. Most important thing is to try to win every game. Sounds easy, but this is really an attitude thing. Rallying your team, reminding them that they enemy might be more skilled but we could have better teamwork. Secondly, one trick a champ. Stop relying on other champs if you consistently lose (mine is Fizz). Don't try to counter pick in lane or pick for your team if you aren't comfortable with the champ. At Gold elo, you can single-handedly carry almost any game. In my example, Ahri, sometimes my bot would feed or top would int over and over and they would want to give up, so I'd say 'hey they kept you down early but we are all really strong bc you absorbed pressure' so we would group and Ahri's AOE would literally shit on their entire team because they're really bad. I was playing to Ahri's strengths (getting picks/roams early and melting frontline/carries in team fights). Whatever your champ is (if they're actually broken like Ahri was) you will have no problem climbing (another qualifier: if you're good enough to climb). Ignore pro play. You are not a pro.
Rioter Comments
: Why should anything have to be done about it? There isn't any rule against sending a support top. If you really hate premades that much, why not play Ranked?
> [{quoted}](name=The Big Piece,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=0ylEBx7G,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-02-01T08:28:43.373+0000) > > Why should anything have to be done about it? There isn't any rule against sending a support top. If you really hate premades that much, why not play Ranked? Well if our ADC knew beforehand, they could have picked something better than Kalista to send into a 2v1 lane. My understanding is that roles are assigned for a reason, and that if you want to go off meta you should either A. be in a full premade or B. discuss beforehand and let team know what you'd like to try.
: Are you playing draft or blind?
> [{quoted}](name=The Big Piece,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=0ylEBx7G,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-01T08:38:56.026+0000) > > Are you playing draft or blind? I play draft when I'm trying to work on champs or a new role, ranked when try harding.
Rioter Comments
: 20 minutes for 5 games is WAY too long
> [{quoted}](name=Presiasus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Pe8PPbvA,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-11-19T20:32:32.778+0000) > > It's absurd, you get queue banned because you dc or afk from 2 games over a 3 week period? > > Incredible. > > Here's the best part, if you MISS the queue for any reason, sorry starting over! > > End of the day, this is absurd and way too long. Maybe for 2 games? Maybe 10 minutes for 5 games? But 20 minutes for 5 games is absolutely fucked and I don't know how anyone can defend the shit. > > Not surprised though, Riot punishes players like they're a fucking first grader. > > No foul language in our game!!!! Get the fuck off the internet pussies. bro to be totally honest they're giving you a punishment that takes under 2 hours to complete. You'll be begging for longer queues once they ban your account for 2 weeks.
: I was hinking about changing my mouse wheel click to actually do something useful, but would this get me banned, because its modification of game files?
> [{quoted}](name=Snapp2Kill,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=n6Z8gx0M,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-11-18T00:54:43.337+0000) > > I was hinking about changing my mouse wheel click to actually do something useful, but would this get me banned, because its modification of game files? As far as I know, no, as it nets you no advantage. We should be able to change this in-game.
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Penteano (NA)
: Is there a way to invert MB1 and MB2 functions?
you can manipulate all key bindings in the game config, i have changed mine so that left click is attack click move, right click is the same, and mouse wheel button is standard left click. This disables the mouse wheel, however, which can be annoying for some. For my setup, it works. You can customize it however you like though I can't post a link of any sort of guide.
Broporo (NA)
: HE'S SO FLUFFY!!!!! Double check your account, you should see that 4 RP added ^_^
> [{quoted}](name=Broporo,realm=NA,application-id=osqw6G4M,discussion-id=JsakPG9B,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2017-09-22T02:50:26.935+0000) > > HE'S SO FLUFFY!!!!! > > Double check your account, you should see that 4 RP added ^_^ Thank you, and thank you {{summoner:30}} I wasn't sure if it would qualify for a drawing let alone a poro {{sticker:sg-soraka}}
Altaria (EUNE)
: So.. what's the deal with Ahri S ranks?
> I went 20/5/21 with Ahri, 146 creeps, 2 turrets downed, 18k gold Not enough CS for how long that game went.
Altaria (EUNE)
: So.. what's the deal with Ahri S ranks?
It's not based solely on KDA
Broporo (NA)
: Sure thing, but imma have to ask for your best drawing of a poro first! Doesn't need to be good, lord knows I'm a terrible artist xD
> [{quoted}](name=Broporo,realm=NA,application-id=osqw6G4M,discussion-id=JsakPG9B,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-09-22T02:19:32.802+0000) > > Sure thing, but imma have to ask for your best drawing of a poro first! Doesn't need to be good, lord knows I'm a terrible artist xD [My best poro bro](https://imgur.com/a/5tbk6)
Broporo (NA)
: Sure thing, but imma have to ask for your best drawing of a poro first! Doesn't need to be good, lord knows I'm a terrible artist xD
> [{quoted}](name=Broporo,realm=NA,application-id=osqw6G4M,discussion-id=JsakPG9B,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-09-22T02:19:32.802+0000) > > Sure thing, but imma have to ask for your best drawing of a poro first! Doesn't need to be good, lord knows I'm a terrible artist xD Wait, didn't MS Paint get deleted? Give me 1 minute.
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