: EXACTLY! Playing aggressively = spending mana so with there being no mana regeneration , why the hell am I putting my life on the line to complete NOT ONE BUT TWO quests for the gold. At first, 10% CDR and mana regeneration were incentives to complete the quest or we could atleast get that item even if the quest wasn’t over. Now with this, I’d rather play safe because I play enchanter supports like Nami and Sona and THEY. NEED. MANA. especially in the laning phase. Biscuit Delivery doesn’t do shit in the larger scheme of things and now the amount of gold you get for attacking turrets and champions has been reduced from 22 to 15 so it’s like WHAT THE HELL RIOT. Honestly, I’d have started picking coin because it gives Mana + Gold but that’s gone too because I feel Riot knew this would happen. They better get this corrected because it doesn’t look good for Support Mains right now.
If you play {{champion:37}} I think you will be fine in mana. The item {{item:3114}} is worth the gold and you are able to pick it up faster. The problem is there is no real reason to ever max your q or go for trades. If you play an enchanter which will be the only reliable support type after the changes you will only be a heal bot. Which you did state in your post above.
: Patch 9.23 notes
so a quick recap of the patch notes. {{champion:84}} got buff {{champion:89}} {{champion:12}} {{champion:9}} {{champion:25}} are now dead {{champion:63}} {{champion:143}} got hard nerf {{champion:555}} {{champion:412}} {{champion:44}} {{champion:111}} got nerf support {{champion:101}} {{champion:99}} {{champion:21}} {{champion:518}} {{champion:16}} {{champion:37}} {{champion:350}} {{champion:26}} {{champion:497}} {{champion:43}} {{champion:40}} support{{champion:21}} got buff {{champion:238}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:141}} {{champion:121}} {{champion:56}} {{champion:246}} {{champion:107}} {{champion:35}} {{champion:91}} {{champion:133}} got buff Tank meta is back Mages can now use conquer effectively Melee support items are worst Bruisers across the board got nerf {{champion:122}} got buff ADC got buff with {{item:1018}} being 25% crit chance and building into more items Support can only get a maximum amount 1500 gold per game before it becomes impossible for supports to get gold from minions.
: How do i fix my mmr?
Here you go. https://na.op.gg/
: ADC and Support question
It’s because of how the wave is position. If the wave is slow pushing towards your tower you can stop it all together from pushing. If the wave is at the center you can push the wave towards their tower which they can freeze on their side of the lane. Anyother reason they are assholes who are tilted.
: Pyke Jungle
That was the whole point of the nerfs. To get {{champion:555}} out of the jungle, mid, and top lane. For a **support** it’s not to bad of a nerf which he should be. In any other lane he is complete bs to deal. Just like how {{champion:223}} is complete bs to deal with in top lane but is fine in the support for solo que. Which is upsetting for a {{champion:223}} main before the consist nerfs.
: Can we please talk about how toxic Rengar is as a character
No. Just no. Every time they so much look at that champ he is broken for 6 months and we have to deal with this bs. No, just keep him at this feast or famine state. At least this way if you counter jungle him it hurts him and is the best way to counter him.
Senamz13 (NA)
: Hook supports dominate bot lane
No. The reason why hooked supports are good is because most of the payers that are lower elo don’t know how to position. Same with shield supports, if you go to higher elo maybe you will see some Pyke that’s really is it.
: Anyone noticed the 'nErF yAsUo' threads have been non existent lately
Cancer that is worst then {{champion:157}} got added into the game.
: Aatrox: *has 3 extremely delayed and telegraphed skillshits which need to be hit in unique ways as his only damage source* Community: "no counterplay" Akali and irelia truly dint have counterplay tho
Not his Q. His ultimate had no counter play to it. He would have a ga on 140 sec cooldown. So riot removed it. I can give you a list of the things riot removed from these 3 champs alone and the reason why I didn’t vote for {{champion:102}}. When they said we will rework her like {{champion:39}} I didn’t want that.
Thilmer (EUW)
: Anybody else excited for Fiddlesticks rework?
Watch fiddle be release broken. Then have half of his kit removed because there is no to little counter play like these poor, unfortunate, fools. {{champion:39}} {{champion:266}} {{champion:84}}
: To my jungler warwick who camped aery Jayce to the point of ragequit...
Gets camped next game - “top lane sucks. Why is the jungler camping me?” Rage quits.
Shahamut (NA)
: When is Skarner going to get some love?
https://giphy.com/gifs/harry-potter-pottermore-M28rUlcjueKUE Sad times for the loneliest boy in the game.
Rozark (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Nekorus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Q1GOptsQ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-09T02:31:58.328+0000) > > damn how many mordekaisers are in this game. How do I know that OP isn't a Mordekaiser? How do I know that you're not a Mordekaiser?? How do I know that I'm not a Mordekaiser???
We are all Mordekaiser, brother. https://giphy.com/gifs/nhl-minnesota-wild-welcome-home-Ae7SI3LoPYj8Q
: Trundle? Kalista? Braum?
{{champion:48}} has been getting buff for the past few mouths. {{champion:429}} will not and should not be buff until she gets a rework because of how broken she is in pro play. Every time she is buff she is broken. {{champion:201}} I can see him needing a buff or two that would be nice.
: > [{quoted}](name=robotmaster,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VoBFBQjK,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-07-06T05:13:40.391+0000) > > Are you only looking for top laners? If so you can play {{champion:24}} {{champion:23}} {{champion:48}} is underrated {{champion:82}} {{champion:83}} > If you really want to be a dick in top lane play {{champion:67}} {{champion:518}} on hit. Well, im not looking for only top laners, im looking for all the roles, im just looking for something that i can have fun with
{{champion:3}} mid is fun with tp. Clear waves rumor at lv 6. Punch assassin in the face pre lv6. Do it all while wearing a chicken suit.
: What is the absolute best champion for me?
Are you only looking for top laners? If so you can play {{champion:24}} {{champion:23}} {{champion:48}} is underrated {{champion:82}} {{champion:83}} If you really want to be a dick in top lane play {{champion:67}} {{champion:518}} on hit.
: buff ahri
: When Is It OK To Just Surrender?!
When it’s 15 mins in and the score is 0v20 kills.
: What class is Qiyana?
{{champion:246}} by what riot has said she is a solo laner assassin. Then again riot says a lot of stuff. Like how {{champion:223}} is a support.
: Riot, can you chill out with all these champion changes?
I’m cool with changing a bunch of champions.
Spekkıo (NA)
: Seriously, you need to nerf Leona's base stats.
Your not going to like the pbe buffs then. https://mobile.twitter.com/RiotRepertoir/status/1145788148246437888/photo/1
: Please Riot, these Renek and Kled changes are terrible for toplane. What are u doing?
If you really feel that way. That no matter what you can’t beat that champ as the champ your playing why don’t you just ban them?
Zabulus (NA)
: Tahm Kench q+w???
Wait I thought the same thing.
: Nocturn and Karthus: Most needed Reworks in League
Wait. Wasn’t {{champion:30}} op for the longest time in the jg with dark harvest and was a decent mid lander too?
ThaweeOo (NA)
: Creating a Independent / Solo Marksment - ADC
We do have something like this it’s called {{champion:498}} {{champion:18}} {{champion:145}}. If you want to feel spicy you can play {{champion:203}} in the jungle and {{champion:10}} , {{champion:133}} in the top lane and finally {{champion:42}} in the mid lane.
D8J (NA)
: Pyke ult not distributing gold on ult kills?
I don’t understand in the clip you got the gold for both kills. If your talking about the “your cut” item that only happens when the last person who hit the champ you killed like the tham in the clip or you get it when they die inside your ugly and didn’t get the kill.
: A Champion's Rework
No. I want a rework for {{champion:106}} because he is weak and if they try to buff him too much he becomes a monster in lower elo and just ok in higher elo. Yes, I want all champs that are as out dated as {{champion:106}} to get reworked. I’m still wait for {{champion:54}} to get a reworked. On top of all of that running at someone and killing isn’t something I would call fun gameplay.
: Why is Sylas so ripped?
Cause bad boy needs to look good for the eye candy. Not that it’s bad thing it’s just the reason why.
: Basically every champion who has the main goal to force feed kills to his carry in the laning phase. Great examples are: {{champion:555}} {{champion:111}} {{champion:89}} {{champion:53}} {{champion:412}}
> [{quoted}](name=Chembaron Yamada,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JT34gbEc,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-06-05T16:19:26.462+0000) > > Basically every champion who has the main goal to force feed kills to his carry in the laning phase. Great examples are: > {{champion:555}} {{champion:111}} {{champion:89}} {{champion:53}} {{champion:412}} {{champion:12}} is good too.
: Serious question. ADHD affects league of legends performance?
I mean something like that will effect everything in your life. There have been cases where people “grew out” of their ADHD, but in most cases it’s a part of you for life. I think the biggest part is that I get bored sometimes so I go in when I shouldn’t or try to start fights when I shouldn’t. So it a way it does effect your game play, but I would like to believe that it doesn’t effect it too much. I always think to myself don’t do something dumb, don’t do something dumb, when I’m try harding. In other words if you really want to try to be good at this game you just have to put more hours in then everyone else. It sucks and it not fair, but that is world. Best we can do is say “fuck it, what does the world know, I’ll prove it wrong” and just try your best. Their will be days where you need to tell yourself that you can’t do something, because of your disability and there will be sad days like that. You just have to keep going and go for something less ambitions to start out with then move up to where you want to be. People like us just need to work a little bit harder then the rest and that’s ok. Sorry for long post.
: Tahm, You're Fired
https://m.imgur.com/gallery/2UowRPK I miss {{champion:223}} as a support.
Anu3isII (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=robotmaster,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BfN9359w,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-29T21:10:13.011+0000) > > I would remove his aoe knock-up. Have the first person get knock-up then the rest be slowed by 30% like they did with {{champion:421}}. Make the basic kit weaker while giving the ult more impact or have it be more of an execute then it already is on full ad {{champion:59}}. 1. His AoE knock-up is a reward for landing it on multiple people. Do you really want to nerf a part of his kit that involves some skill to buff a point-and-click ability? 2. Making his ult an execute is counterintuitive. It is supposed to be an engage that traps his opponents for his team. His whole idea is that of a diver with loads of AoE disruption, nerfing that would further encourage him to go full-YOLO-AD, which isn't really the fantasy of J4.
> [{quoted}](name=Anu3isII,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BfN9359w,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-30T01:39:11.542+0000) > > 1. His AoE knock-up is a reward for landing it on multiple people. Do you really want to nerf a part of his kit that involves some skill to buff a point-and-click ability? > > 2. Making his ult an execute is counterintuitive. It is supposed to be an engage that traps his opponents for his team. > > His whole idea is that of a diver with loads of AoE disruption, nerfing that would further encourage him to go full-YOLO-AD, which isn't really the fantasy of J4. The point is too give him a new ult or a more powerful ultimate. I think his fine as he is, but if we wanted to give him a more powerful ult they would have to make him his basic kit weaker. To do so I think the best spot to start is his aoe knock-up with still rewarding landing on multiple targets. If you read the whole post you understand that we where trying to give reason as to why and how we should give him a new more powerful ultimate.
mack9112 (NA)
: He is a lane bully with no team fight potential
> [{quoted}](name=mack9112,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=VmZBRGJs,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-05-29T18:14:43.067+0000) > > He is a lane bully with no team fight potential Who becomes useless at 20 mins
: Best support to one trick poll.
How dare you sir. Not even bothering to put us tank players on the list. I say how dare you. {{champion:89}} <- best wefiu in game fight me.
: > [{quoted}](name=robotmaster,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BfN9359w,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-05-29T21:01:40.093+0000) > > Why? It’s aoe compare to single point and click. On top of that {{champion:59}} base kit has high impact with aoe slow, aoe knock-up with aoe buffs and debuffs. It’s just not as flashy as other champions ults. And what would you be willing to give up for a stronger ulti? J4 is not a weak champion by any means so doing something like making his ult impassable would require pulling a significant amount of power from elsewhere. Would J4 still feel good to play with that much of his power locked behind his ulti? Maybe not.
> [{quoted}](name=Quality Content,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BfN9359w,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-05-29T21:06:39.106+0000) > > And what would you be willing to give up for a stronger ulti? J4 is not a weak champion by any means so doing something like making his ult impassable would require pulling a significant amount of power elsewhere. Would J4 still feel good to play with that much of his power locked behind his ulti? Maybe not. I would remove his aoe knock-up. Have the first person get knock-up then the rest be slowed by 30% like they did with {{champion:421}}. Make the basic kit weaker while giving the ult more impact or have it be more of an execute then it already is on full ad {{champion:59}}.
: His ult still holds the benefit of doing AOE damage and being on a champion with very strong jungle prowess. Despite other champs having "better" versions of his ult he still has a very high presence in pro games and solo queue so I don't think his ulti is as bad as people make it out to be.
> [{quoted}](name=Quality Content,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BfN9359w,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-05-29T20:45:47.848+0000) > > His ult still holds the benefit of doing AOE damage and being on a champion with very strong jungle prowess. Despite other champs having "better" versions of his ult he still has a very high presence in pro games and solo queue so I don't think his ulti is as bad as people make it out to be. Why? It’s aoe compare to single point and click. On top of that {{champion:59}} base kit has high impact with aoe slow, aoe knock-up with aoe buffs and debuffs. It’s just not as flashy as other champions ults. {{champion:82}} has 2 damage abilities, {{champion:164}} has 1 high damage ability and 2 smaller damage abilities. {{champion:59}} has 2 high damage and 3 smaller damage abilities if you can hit his e. I think having a low impact ult (which I don’t think is the case) is fair for a champ like this.
: Tear upgrade for supports
{{item:3174}} isn’t this basically the same thing? Late game scaling item that gives mana, ap, and shielding. I meant be wrong as what you by tear scaling item.
: Unpopular opinion, but I think Dark Star Karma is fucking amazing.
{{sticker:sg-lux-2}} I don’t think it’s an unpopular opinion.
: Any "No meta" thing is troll until a pro plays it, and it's annoying
I’ve been proven wrong on dumb shit before and won game against dumb shit. However, if you do something that is not just off meta, but something that doesn’t make sense and lose the game because your 0/5 then you deserve to be flame. Like full on-hit {{champion:4}} I’ve seen this work before, but I also know that it was a one time deal and the only reason why it worked was because the guy was a smurf. 200 cs by the 20 min mark is not normal for a silver games. Do dumb shit like this in normal games.
: > [{quoted}](name=robotmaster,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xhMhPeVi,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-05-28T17:29:17.580+0000) > > Rule 1 of {{champion:74}} & {{champion:420}} you never gank the lane. > Rule 2 NEVER GANK THEM. Did you watch the video?
No. It doesn’t work. At least not for me. Just assumed that it’s the normal 1v2 {{champion:420}} play.
: 3/1 Illaoi with tabis crushing Irelia, me and my JG 2v1 her and this happens. Balanced right?
Rule 1 of {{champion:74}} & {{champion:420}} you never gank the lane. Rule 2 NEVER GANK THEM.
: What Does Yuumi Even Offer??? Remove Yuumi Please
I agree she doesn’t bring anything new to the game or is as effective as other supports. {{champion:497}} {{champion:37}} does her job better. I kinda wish they took the idea of taking two champs into one mega champ. Like {{champion:236}} gains adaptive force from 30% ap of {{champion:350}} whenever she w on him. I think that would be cool and new.
: can we purge the Yuumi topics please?
Welcome to the league of legends boards. This tread has been going on for a good 7 years, maybe even 8 years. It’s something you learn to tune out.
: Said I Loved You but I Lied
Wait, so do I need to up a joint to understand the songs or is the songs a lie and it’s them just smoking joints.
Ayanleh (EUW)
: Create a rune that makes manaless champions build mana items
Don’t forget this thing. {{champion:8}} Also she is annoying. {{champion:55}} Least not forget the monster that was {{champion:84}} for how many mouths? Instead of health and ap what if it’s mr?
: Being/not being played is just the subject of buffs/nerfs.
> [{quoted}](name=TogetherWeHunt,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=n3ZEW7Yf,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-05-13T14:06:29.223+0000) > > Being/not being played is just the subject of buffs/nerfs. It’s also shows how good something is or how fun it is to play them. Volibear has either.
Manxxom (NA)
: How I feel when there is a nautilus, bitz, pyke, and thresh on the enemy team
It just so happens that each one of them have a knock-up. {{champion:157}} >:)
: Vote for Fiddlesticks or Nocturne
{{champion:106}} he has been bad forever. {{champion:9}} is playable as a support at least. {{champion:56}} was just played in pro and sole que. {{champion:102}} is playable as a weird ap melee / mid range thing. {{champion:36}} is played as an anti magic/ap tank. Volibear isn’t playable and has been in that state for years. Fiddle’s kit out dated, but he is play as a support and a jungler at the end of season 8. When was the last time you can say that volibear was playable? With that said it’s a lighting bear. I want to have fun playing a lighting bear. Instead of a bear that runs in and give people a little shock.
: Vote Nocturne Because...
Slythion (NA)
: Who did you vote for?
{{champion:106}} he has been bad forever. {{champion:9}} is playable as a support at least. {{champion:56}} was just played in pro and sole que. {{champion:102}} is playable as a weird ap melee / mid range thing. {{champion:36}} is played as a anti magic/ap tank.
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