: > [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ZbHBeNqf,comment-id=000100020000,timestamp=2019-03-21T05:54:30.838+0000) > > The analogy is this: > > The existence of a **mitigation tool** does not absolve people of the responsibility to not require that mitigation tool to be used. The analogy is perfect in that sense. >compares shooting people to saying bad words in a competitive video game >perfect analogy
> analogy > NOUN > > 1A **comparison between one thing and another**, typically for the purpose of explanation or clarification. > ‘an analogy between the workings of nature and those of human societies’ > mass noun ‘he interprets logical functions by analogy with machines’ > More example sentences > 1.1 A correspondence or ***partial* similarity.** > ‘the syndrome is called deep dysgraphia because of its analogy to deep dyslexia’ > More example sentencesSynonyms > 1.2 A thing which is **comparable to something else in *significant respects.*** > From the Oxford Dictionary
: > [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ZbHBeNqf,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-03-21T03:48:43.420+0000) > > Shooting at someone should only be punishable by having your gun taken away. There are bulletproof vests for shooters. Way to make an analogy that has nothing to do with the actual post
The analogy is this: The existence of a **mitigation tool** does not absolve people of the responsibility to not require that mitigation tool to be used. The analogy is perfect in that sense.
: Why is it every time I see a comparison it's always so drastic like gun violence or murder when were talking about a video game here lol it ain't that serious
It’s an analogy, the basic idea is the same. But fine: Cables are a thing to lock merchandise in a store so people can’t get it out without an employee. Stealing should only punish the store because they didn’t use cables to protect their merchandise, the person stealing shouldn’t be punished. The idea is the same.
Steah (NA)
: That's a false equivalency
Steah (NA)
: On the banning system
Shooting at someone should only be punishable by having your gun taken away. There are bulletproof vests for shooters.
: Oh ok, I'm going to start doing what Kayle does then. All I can see from your comment is Kayle is the better person for stealing farm, griefing the game, wasting everyones time while she gets to do it again.
This is blind pick. You owned nothing. They cannot steal what you had no ownership of in the first place. As your title states, if you want assigned roles, play draft pick.
: It wasn't a "report her" it was more "Can we report her?" She didn't say much nor made much contact with the enemy champs just farmed and kept rotating bot and top.
That's still not okay. Them going duo top is not prohibited in blind pick. If they were obviously spamming heal just to mess with you... that's not something I understand. Are you saying they saved their heal for themselves and then used it repeatedly or what? Being selfish isn't punishable. Yeah, maybe she was being a dick to you. But you're the one that let it affect you. Riot isn't going to punish someone for trolling just because they were able to get a rise from you for one missed heal and going duo top in blind pick.
: Riot incentivises players to become toxic (long read)
Wow. You're trying to justify so hard your incorrect opinion that your feelings matter more than everyone else's.
Quatster (NA)
: Is it punishable to leave/afk a game with trolls?
You do not get to decide who is a troll or not, Riot does. Given that they do not make this determination in real time, your game does not have trolls in it at the time you are playing it. You cannot leave a game and inconvenience **any** other players. Period.
zPOOPz (NA)
: > If they weren't in his name or he came across them suddenly? Yeah, you would. I'll be honest. If my gf bought me something, I would not ask for proof of purchase or ask to see the credit card she used. That's something that can potentially end a relationship or spark some very uncomfortable conversations about trust. It is possible for a boyfriend or girlfriend to save money for a period of time and buy a surprise gift that's not necessary something he/she can afford within a single paycheck. > You screwed up. Period. Again,use this as a lesson to question suspicious things instead of just assuming everything will be alright. You know what they say about to assume something? It makes an ass out of u and me. What is the lesson here? Depends on how deep or close the relationship is, you simply do not question things such as a surprise gift or question every single gift. Boyfriends give girlfriends gifts. It's a really normal thing that does not need to be questioned in a committed relationship. If you question everything a bf/gf gives you (and you most definitely do not ask for proof of purchase or credit card used for every gift), I assure you the conversation about trust issue going to come up very often.
One gift? Sure. This encompassed multiple gifts over multiple stolen accounts
: > [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3eblsdQB,comment-id=00010000000000010001000100000000,timestamp=2019-03-20T03:25:18.050+0000) > > The warning message is "hey, my boyfriend is having me add different accounts I didn't know he had to gift me from instead of using his main". That's your red flag you shouldn't have done it. Period. > > The second red flag is "hey, my boyfriend is suddenly able to afford all these gifts to me with no explanation" - again, red flag. > > Your ignoring of these red flags does not absolve you of common sense which would have dictated you be cautious and question this. > > It is as if someone comes out of a bank, wearing a ski mask, has bags that look to be filled with money, gets in your car and says drive. You driving them away would make you complicit in their crime. that is definitely sophisms, Do i have to ask why he have so many credit cards in different banks? Why he always applying new credit cards? would u get death penalty when ur girlfriend bought u some gift using the wallets she picked up on the street. So is there anything wrong when my boyfriend bought me gifts? Do i have to ask him how is he able to afford this, why his parents always send him money? And whats the word "suddenly able to afford" mean. He would prepare some surprise as gifts very often. I probably dont understand what happen to your life, lol
If they weren't in his name or he came across them suddenly? Yeah, you would. And no, you wouldn't get death penalty. You also didn't get the death penalty here. You were told that you are no longer welcome to use the Riot services. You screwed up. Period. Again,use this as a lesson to question suspicious things instead of just assuming everything will be alright. You know what they say about to assume something? It makes an **ass** out of **u** and **me**.
: > [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3eblsdQB,comment-id=000100000000000100010001,timestamp=2019-03-20T03:16:11.470+0000) > > You have to add someone for them to be able to unilaterally gift you, unless something has changed. > > As such, the OP had to willingly add accounts. The OP has admitted they knew the accounts were all owned by her boyfriend who sent her the gifts. There seems to be multiple accounts here, not just one random player you happened to get matched with. > > As far as I know, gifts are not reverted unless it can be confirmed that they were malicious. And even when they are reverted, Riot generally would contact the player, offer them the ability to either purchase the skin or have it removed. i would appreciate if the could remove the skin. The thing is I didnt know this action is breaking rules, either. And i didnt get a warning email about any Suspicious activities, the first message is perm banned.
The warning message is "hey, my boyfriend is having me add different accounts I didn't know he had to gift me from instead of using his main". That's your red flag you shouldn't have done it. Period. The second red flag is "hey, my boyfriend is suddenly able to afford all these gifts to me with no explanation" - again, red flag. Your ignoring of these red flags does not absolve you of common sense which would have dictated you be cautious and question this. It is as if someone comes out of a bank, wearing a ski mask, has bags that look to be filled with money, gets in your car and says drive. You driving them away would make you complicit in their crime.
: you know not everyone tells someone EVERYTHING about their life, right? ignorance is not a defense, but it is also not a conviction. Are you aware that there are millions of laws in the US and quite a lot of them are broken without even the police knowing it? it's illegal in a lot of locations to even set up a lemonade stand without a vendor's permit. the issue being presented is that she was given content illegally by her boyfriend using the other person's credit information. All this requires is that the purchases be refunded to the rightful owners of the credit information and if the accounts WERE NOT STOLEN, ban the account for violating the terms of use... Unless Riot can provide definitive proof that she was consenting to an illegal activity
She had to add his multiple accounts that were suspiciously all at least level 30. She should have questioned why he was having her add multiple accounts to gift her, instead of using his main. Stupidity and ignorance are not a defense.
: > [{quoted}](name=Hotarµ,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3eblsdQB,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-03-20T01:59:36.344+0000) > > I'm going to combine both of these responses into one for clarity. > > ____________________ > > Did your boyfriend purchase the account and _give you_ one of the accounts? If he purchased the accounts but used his **own** credit card or payment method for them, this might have been made in error. > > If he paid for the gifts with a payment method that wasn't his (**like a saved credit card on the account he bought**) it would be considered fraudulent since it wasn't his money to begin with. > > That starts a whole legal issue and Riot needs to take immediate action against all players associated with the punishment if they see fit. > > If you only received gifts and **not an account** from your boyfriend, you have to explain that you didn't have anything to do with fraudulent purchases and just received the gifts. Ask them to remove the gifts and review the situation again. Good luck. no, i didnt get any account or use them. i only receive gift, not account. I have nothing to do just receive gifts, they could remove the gifts and review this case. I tried to reply to the ticket, they said ticket closed and no decision could be changed. So I submit a new ticket, they forward back to the previous ticket. In this case where I should dispute?
There is no further dispute. They have given their ruling, which from the circumstances of the case seems correct. Let this be a lesson to you to not trust people who suddenly have the ability to spend more money than they did before, or who suddenly start showering you with gifts.
: > [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3eblsdQB,comment-id=0001000000000001,timestamp=2019-03-20T02:00:23.892+0000) > > Your boyfriend got you in trouble. He made you an accomplice to his crime by involving you in it. You had to have friended these accounts for them to send a gift to you, no? You willingly did that? > > You're just as much at fault here. Just being curious , how is receiving a gift from someone who has an account purchased is a crime? for example I had a good game with someone , he added me and he saw how nice I am and sent me and sent me a gift , a skin of my main , his account was purchased , how am i supposed to know his account was purchased in case I got banned too?
You have to add someone for them to be able to unilaterally gift you, unless something has changed. As such, the OP had to willingly add accounts. The OP has admitted they knew the accounts were all owned by her boyfriend who sent her the gifts. There seems to be multiple accounts here, not just one random player you happened to get matched with. As far as I know, gifts are not reverted unless it can be confirmed that they were malicious. And even when they are reverted, Riot generally would contact the player, offer them the ability to either purchase the skin or have it removed.
Boppas (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Y62jMGQk,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-20T02:19:57.373+0000) > > Because both ruin games, and flaming is obvious, where trolling is many times indistinguishable from having a bad game? If i went lets say 0/15 on purpose and say my top told me "Can you stop inting" then I go onto be a troll spamming in chat and top says to me "You are bad at the game" and gets chat banned and me going 0/15 is okey dokey?
How does Riot know you did it on purpose?
Boppas (NA)
: Lets talk about Trolls
Because both ruin games, and flaming is obvious, where trolling is many times indistinguishable from having a bad game?
Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=wjLLszn6,comment-id=0000000100000000,timestamp=2019-03-20T02:01:16.231+0000) > > Many threads people post with an immediate 14 day ban with only one linked game of intentional feeding, griefing, or trolling. All three of those are treated the same. Huh, guess I should start changing it to you don't get banned unless it is blatant then, but I feel like even that isn't true.
"blatant" or "obvious" are opinions. The most useful thing for people on these boards is to give facts. Report. Riot will review. If trolling is confirmed, it will result in an immediate punishment. Trolling confirmation can take place by using data from more than one game, but can also be from only one game.
: guilt by association is not a thing... and Riot refuses to disclose any mention of how they determine if she was an accomplice in these crimes If someone steals a diamond from a jewelry store and gives it to their girlfriend, there's usually a profiling involved and unless the person involved was a girl with the same characteristics as the girl who had the diamond, there would be no way to prove that she was an accomplice without some physical record of plans or a witness that could not be discredited
She added accounts. She had to know they weren't her boyfriend's. Period. Yet he was playing on them and gifting her from them. There's no way she could've thought they were legitimate, unless she didn't think period. Ignorance is not a defense.
rujitra (NA)
: Why don't you show me an example of someone who got banned because they "used the chat" but didn't violate any rules then?
I'm sorry, in what world is telling someone to hang themselves or slit their neck appropriate?
Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=wjLLszn6,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-03-20T01:54:55.511+0000) > > I'm sorry this is blatantly false. Trolling is absolutely prohibited. One confirmed instance of trolling is an instant 14 day ban. > > The issue is that sometimes it is not as obvious as people like OP seem to think it is from a neutral eye. Where, I don't think I have ever seen this, though that might be the point because it IS harder to prove.
Many threads people post with an immediate 14 day ban with only one linked game of intentional feeding, griefing, or trolling. All three of those are treated the same.
: > [{quoted}](name=Hotarµ,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3eblsdQB,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-03-20T01:48:12.022+0000) > > Pretty sure this means that the accounts you purchased had saved payment methods on them (such as credit cards) and you gifted or were gifted items from them. > > Either way, you admitted to purchasing the accounts. Not Riot's fault and not something that would or should be overturned. I said my boyfriend purchased these accounts. i didnt know about it until I received these gifts. whats the reason ban my account?
Your boyfriend got you in trouble. He made you an accomplice to his crime by involving you in it. You had to have friended these accounts for them to send a gift to you, no? You willingly did that? You're just as much at fault here.
Jamaree (NA)
: Trolling once or twice isn't enough to get a punishment.
I'm sorry this is blatantly false. Trolling is absolutely prohibited. One confirmed instance of trolling is an instant 14 day ban. The issue is that sometimes it is not as obvious as people like OP seem to think it is from a neutral eye.
: On another note I also really really really don't think that players of account levels with greater than 10 levels in difference should be allowed to join ques together, cuz that also severely skews the gameplay and makes it not fun to play.
That will create vastly longer queue times for new players.
: At least 4 people I have reported for using BRAZEN racial slurs are playing this game as of TODAY.
Did you report them for hate speech? Or did you select a random or different option?
: I understand, but surely there could be a 3 strike system in regards to Leaver Buster offenses? It could heal over time akin to the way account standing does now. Emergencies are totally understandable, but when you do it there should be something.
I mean, people have multiple emergencies. Especially parents, people on call at work, etc. They may only get called out of a game once or twice a month. Should they really suffer in ranked standing for it? Time bans (20 minute queues) and even potentially account bans for offenders I can understand, but altering Ranked I don't. There is only one thing that alters ranked changes away from what it should be - Riot server issues (Loss Prevented). And that's how it should be, otherwise it's not a true skill based system.
: Well no, of course not. But shouldn't the LP loss be deferred to the leaver AT LEAST?
So you're suggesting one person be penalized almost a full ranked division because of a legitimate emergency? If your mom was being rushed to the hospital, you'd feel fine losing 50+ LP for going to be with her? It wouldn't make you feel bad in the moment for sure, but when you came back to keep playing?
: What about a manual appeal process? I have just such a game yesterday. Would Riot support look at it and maybe take away that L me and my team had to hold because of him? Also ty for responding. I honestly never have gotten one from one of you guys.
Would you also be okay with them taking away the W you get against a team with an AFK?
: > but if it shows your summoner name and enough information for them to find the game Hmm, I'm not sure I agree that they'd do this. If I post my summoner name and brag that I inted on a Reddit post, for example, I don't think anyone who handles player support tickets is going to investigate and issue any kind of punishment based on this type of evidence.
No no, sorry, I didn't make my point clear. Posting them here or on Reddit won't do anything because the internet is too damn big to police. But if someone sends that information to Riot in a support ticket, they won't ignore it, and they can use screenshots to identify which specific game the player is reporting.
: Oh yeah? Prove it was me. Prove the picture wasn't edited.
They won't use the screenshot as evidence, but if it shows your summoner name and enough information for them to find the game they will look into their own logs of it. Screenshots are good if you can't remember exactly what game it was in as it helps Riot identify it, but they aren't used as evidence as you said they can be altered.
: Oh already planning to, thank you. Though he is currently in a game. Do I have to wait until he's out? Can't seem to do much cause it keeps trying to connect me.
You can change the password on the website here even while in game, and I believe it will automatically log anyone out who is logged in anywhere when you do. You may want to wait to confirm he wasn't sharing it first.. as it'd be a rude surprise to him if you just changed the password on him. Just my opinion, it's up to you how you want to proceed. **edit** I also want to point out that it's against the rules to share accounts with anyone, so if you can handle this without getting Riot involved that would be better. Even him sharing his password with you is against the rules, but if Riot never becomes aware of it then they obviously wouldn't do anything. If you go through Riot they may lock the account until he proves ownership.
: hard verbal abuse in post game chat, pics to prove, does posting here matter?
Riot does not use the boards for reports. You can use end game reporting for all phases of chat, including pre, in, and post game. Alternatively, you can submit a support ticket. Riot logs all chat and thus screenshots are both unnecessary and not used.
: Message to Riot - Your game is s**t.
Maybe you lost them because you didn’t deserve promoted?
: plus a majority of the player base wanted it gone having to play 8 matches per role to get a rank for each role (and your wins and losses effecting the lp of ranks in roles you already finished) was frankly annoying
I'm not sure I've seen anything supporting that Riot had data of this nature. The boards were vocal, sure, but the boards have proven many times that they don't represent the majority opinion at all. My understanding is that it was the bugs and inherent and built-in issues (such as inflating ranks and trolls when playing off ranks) that caused the removal, and that they're open to testing again at some point in the future once they brainstorm how to fix these systemic flaws in the system.
: > [{quoted}](name=KFCeytron,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=JJ0EW4XM,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-03-19T13:49:32.060+0000) > > Your chat was toxic. You earned that punishment, which was a perma because you kept having toxic chat after being told to stop over and over again. So, i got someone that was inting and calling him with 0 attidute and replying to him that he is crying after he said the same thing to me is toxic? Well done riot
> [{quoted}](name=MK Kypaj6ep MK ,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=JJ0EW4XM,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-03-19T13:57:06.432+0000) > > So, i got someone that was inting and calling him with 0 attidute and replying to him that he is crying after he said the same thing to me is toxic? Well done riot Your behavior is not dependent on anyone else. You were toxic again after your 14 day ban.
: > [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=zheEAhMI,comment-id=00010000000000010000,timestamp=2019-03-19T08:08:45.804+0000) > > For someone in software, you seem to not even have a basic understanding of how passwords are stored. No competent person older than 12 stores passwords, they store an encrypted (hashed) version. From this hash, it would take millions of years to brute force going backwards to the password. However, if one knows the correct password, they simply run it through the same hash algorithm and it outputs the same hash - thus how passwords are checked. > > No Riot employee has access to your password. Very few have access to your password hash. > > Sounds to me like you got struck by a phishing scam website that you inadvertantly plugged your info in on. I understand that passwords are stored by hash, you just completely missed my meaning. I'm saying it's doubtful the password was cracked (or ever seen) at all. You don't know much about cyber-security do you? Much more likely that it was human error and since it wasn't human error on my end (no viruses, I know what sketchy sites look like), the conclusion is that the human error was probably on the end of riot support who has access to resetting accounts' passwords without needing to "crack" them. Ergo either it was on accident or someone making money. The world runs on money so..... the latter is somewhat likely
> [{quoted}](name=Minimac2000,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=zheEAhMI,comment-id=000100000000000100000000,timestamp=2019-03-19T08:56:15.307+0000) > > I understand that passwords are stored by hash, you just completely missed my meaning. I'm saying it's doubtful the password was cracked (or ever seen) at all. You don't know much about cyber-security do you? Much more likely that it was human error and since it wasn't human error on my end (no viruses, I know what sketchy sites look like), the conclusion is that the human error was probably on the end of riot support who has access to resetting accounts' passwords without needing to "crack" them. Ergo either it was on accident or someone making money. The world runs on money so..... the latter is somewhat likely But your email stayed the same? I'm sure some Riot employees have access to change passwords.. but I don't think support does, and I'm sure it's all logged. Given that to my knowledge Support tickets are answered by a third party (to improve time zone and language control around the world) it seems odd that they'd participate in this sort of a cover up and we wouldn't have heard of it. I encourage you to review some of the phishing sites nowadays - Google has made a quiz on them over the past few months. I think the answers will surprise you. Even the URLs are getting harder to spot.
: > [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=zheEAhMI,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-03-19T00:20:05.139+0000) > > They really can’t. Authentication requires username and password to be entered exactly. There is no manner to “crack” an account without knowing these two things - which would require brute force. A password with four random words, even if they’re all lowercase, has enough “entropy” to take **over 1000 years to crack using brute force**. Randomized mobile verification most commonly uses a 6 digit number, but sometimes an 8 or 4 digit number. 10 * 10 * 10 * 10 * 10 * 10 is only 1,000,000 - only one million choices to try and crack. That would take mere seconds on today’s computing power. So no, it’s not more secure than a secure password. > > The only way a password becomes insecure is through negligence - either via being gullible and falling for a phishing attempt, allowing a keylogger/other malicious software onto your computer, or otherwise. Idk, I got an account stolen within two weeks of today, just found out today actually reset my password for all my other accounts, reported the account, and scanned my computer and no viruses detected so far. Plus my password was alphanumeric+symbol digit AND longer than 12 digits and this account still got stolen. I'm in software and that doesn't sound mathematically possible to me, so my bet is there's someone inside Riot selling inactive accounts
> [{quoted}](name=Minimac2000,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=zheEAhMI,comment-id=0001000000000001,timestamp=2019-03-19T08:03:48.045+0000) > > Idk, I got an account stolen within two weeks of today, just found out today actually reset my password for all my other accounts, reported the account, and scanned my computer and no viruses detected so far. Plus my password was alphanumeric+symbol digit AND longer than 12 digits and this account still got stolen. I'm in software and that doesn't sound mathematically possible to me, so my bet is there's someone inside Riot selling inactive accounts For someone in software, you seem to not even have a basic understanding of how passwords are stored. No competent person older than 12 stores passwords, they store an encrypted (hashed) version. From this hash, it would take millions of years to brute force going backwards to the password. However, if one knows the correct password, they simply run it through the same hash algorithm and it outputs the same hash - thus how passwords are checked. No Riot employee has access to your password. Very few have access to your password hash. Sounds to me like you got struck by a phishing scam website that you inadvertantly plugged your info in on.
T0NES (NA)
: Is Riot's ban hammer automated or is there someone actually reviewing the bans?
If that word was hate speech, the system didn't make a mistake in punishing you. If you've never been banned before, you should ask Riot to reduce to a 14 day ban. If you have, then you ignored your warnings and you're unfortunately out of chances.
rujitra (NA)
: Why don't you show me an example of someone who got banned because they "used the chat" but didn't violate any rules then?
> [{quoted}](name=WarmAndCrispy,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=2E55zakW,comment-id=00040000000000000000000000000001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-03-19T05:33:47.985+0000) > > because loosely written rules can easily be interpreted by ppl like u to fit your argument. Any hint of negativity and the morally superior bandwagon ur on always shows up ready to shame and insult. So show me proof of this happening? Lots of words, no proof.
: You don't have better things to do than to entertain this dialogue? No wonder Boards are a poor place to get attention. The admins waste their time with this drivel instead of productive, and helpful posts. I just read ANOTHER post about tracking Honor progress, TONS of community support and radio silence from the admins and Riot. But here you are. Typing away. Feeding into the anguish of another human being, instead of dropping it and addressing real issues... Am I making myself heard?
I have no affiliation with Riot dude. I'm literally just another League player. I can't do anything to make changes or address issues. My posting on this thread doesn't change any of Riot's responses or lack thereof to other threads. Am I making myself heard?
zLvKNelly (EUW)
: Once again proving you have absolutely no experience with this system...
Why don't you show me an example of someone who got banned because they "used the chat" but didn't violate any rules then?
: There are methods to get a person's place of origin as long as theyre connected to the web. Hell, Jensen did it before he became a pro (that's why all the pros always joke about "don't piss off Jensen or he'll offline us!", or "call Jensen" when they need someone to lose. xD) but there's a very low chance he's actually going to do anything. If you're worried, send Riot a support ticket, but they're gonna pretty much tell you that you shouldn't have accepted that friend request. and send you on your way.
For these to work, you'd have to know their IP. Connections to games, as well as anything else through Riot's client, go through Riot servers, which do not pass this information on (or shouldn't). Thus, the only way someone from League would get your information is if you use third party sites and connect your League account to them, or if Riot has a massive server security hole.
zLvKNelly (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=2E55zakW,comment-id=000400000000000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2019-03-19T00:00:07.150+0000) > > How? If they did nothing wrong, how would they be banned? because a lot of them will have used the chat and thus be bannable
Using chat is not against the rules. You will not get banned no matter how much you use chat unless you are violating the rules.
: ***
Dude, I don't make the rules. Riot does, based on what **a vast majority of players** think. You, me, or any other one player can disagree, but the point of these boards is to explain why people got punished, not say "the rules suck". If you want to have that discussion, feel free to open your own thread on the rules.
: selective editing doesn't mean my point is invalid.
You were warned. You chose to forget that warning. Thus, you chose to not heed that warning. You are now suffering the consequences of not heeding that warning. You. You. You. You. Notice that there’s nothing in there about anyone else. It is your actions and your responsibility.
: Wrongfully banned?
It does not matter how many people report. More people reporting does not increase the chance of a punishment. By repeating what they said, you became a voice for them to spread hate speech to other players. You are just as at fault as they were. **However**, in the past, sometimes, Riot has reduced punishments for this if you submit a support ticket and express that you know what you did wrong. To answer your last question, yes, it is wrong. There is never any acceptable reason to repeat toxicity or be toxic. Period.
AlvaaQ (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=zheEAhMI,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-03-19T00:20:05.139+0000) > > They really can’t. Authentication requires username and password to be entered exactly. There is no manner to “crack” an account without knowing these two things - which would require brute force. A password with four random words, even if they’re all lowercase, has enough “entropy” to take **over 1000 years to crack using brute force**. Randomized mobile verification most commonly uses a 6 digit number, but sometimes an 8 or 4 digit number. 10 * 10 * 10 * 10 * 10 * 10 is only 1,000,000 - only one million choices to try and crack. That would take mere seconds on today’s computing power. So no, it’s not more secure than a secure password. > > The only way a password becomes insecure is through negligence - either via being gullible and falling for a phishing attempt, allowing a keylogger/other malicious software onto your computer, or otherwise. I wont argue over what can be hacked and what cant be hacked, but do u not agree that we should be notified of our account activity? It doesnt even have to be sent via sms, it can be sent via email (obviously it wont be spam as it will only occur on ip address change)
> [{quoted}](name=AlvaaQ,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=zheEAhMI,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-03-19T00:38:20.921+0000) > > I wont argue over what can be hacked and what cant be hacked, but do u not agree that we should be notified of our account activity? There are pros and cons to that setup, the main pro being helping people take action sooner, but the main cons being that if your League account is hacked it’s also likely other things are, not catching everything because it has to be “abnormal”, giving people hassle when they’re in a different location even when it’s still them... etc. I’m presuming Riot has weighed the pros and cons and determined it’s not worth it at this time.
Valicke (EUW)
: Yeah but sould I do about such a messages ? Its like threatening me and I dont even know how he knows where Im froma and for fun fact after he gone (probably just dropped me from friend list) my mouse cursor started shacking :D and it never shacked before I couldnt do anything just shut down pc, should I be worried about it and do smth or just ignore
If you are feeling physically threatened you should contact your local police department. If you are worried for your computer security, you should take appropriate action such as running anti-malware and anti-virus software.
rujitra (NA)
: That they named themselves either after the German words for "my fight/struggle" or after a book. Doesn't mean they agree with the book. You are taking A+B=C and now talking about Q, something that is far off and only tangentially related.
> [{quoted}](name=Twisted Circle,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=rhHTQzpm,comment-id=00030000000100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-03-19T00:01:52.874+0000) > > So let me get this straight. If you saw the name "Mein Kampf" on a North American server, with the spelling changed but including capitals, you're claiming you would think it was someone trying to speak German. > > You're also trying to tell me you'd name yourself after a book you don't agree with. > > Have I gotten your arguments right yet? Wait a minute, you said it was Mein Kampf. **You’re now saying that the spelling was changed**. Which is it? You’re being inconsistent here. And dude, I’d name myself any name I thought was cool. Maybe someone tried out names, and decided on this one because it was a well known book that wasn’t taken by someone else. You’re literally making **so many assumptions and leaps in logic here** and ignoring all other possibilities, and you’re asking someone to be punished because you don’t agree with the other possibilities. By the way, there’s many people in the USA that speak German as a primary language.
AlvaaQ (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=zheEAhMI,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-03-18T22:57:45.862+0000) > > The only people who would sign up for it are those who are least likely to be hacked in the first place. You have to be pretty oblivious or willfully negligent in your computer security to let an account get hacked. > > A simple password of four random words put together, even if they're all lowercase, is more secure than cracking 2FA using brute force. Accounts can still be cracked no matter the difficulty of the pass and the precautions u take, at least with my solution we can know if theres been activity on our acc so that we can swiftly deal with the situation before any dmg is done. And do u know how hard it is to get on an account with randomised mobile verification? They are going to need to get your email pass aswell.
> [{quoted}](name=AlvaaQ,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=zheEAhMI,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-03-19T00:09:34.555+0000) > > Accounts can still be cracked no matter the difficulty of the pass and the precautions u take, at least with my solution we can know if theres been activity on our acc so that we can swiftly deal with the situation before any dmg is done. And do u know how hard it is to get on an account with randomised mobile verification? They are going to need to get your email pass aswell. They really can’t. Authentication requires username and password to be entered exactly. There is no manner to “crack” an account without knowing these two things - which would require brute force. A password with four random words, even if they’re all lowercase, has enough “entropy” to take **over 1000 years to crack using brute force**. Randomized mobile verification most commonly uses a 6 digit number, but sometimes an 8 or 4 digit number. 10 * 10 * 10 * 10 * 10 * 10 is only 1,000,000 - only one million choices to try and crack. That would take mere seconds on today’s computing power. So no, it’s not more secure than a secure password. The only way a password becomes insecure is through negligence - either via being gullible and falling for a phishing attempt, allowing a keylogger/other malicious software onto your computer, or otherwise.
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