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: for as dominate of a lane bully he is . no its not. but you want him buffed so you are gonna disagree
> [{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pRTs4v7R,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-12T03:46:33.612+0000) > > for as dominate of a lane bully he is . no its not. > > but you want him buffed so you are gonna disagree He has a 49% winrate and riven has a winrate of 52% that means Aatrox has less of a chance than riven at winning. Jax's winrate is just as high. Why is it bad that i want my champion buffed to be just as good as the other top lanners?
: well 1st off they arent the same champ so lets start there. darius only has sustain from his Q , he is immobile. aatrox is more like a riven with his Q. he dont have sustain like darius cuz of his ult. i dont think aatrox is that bad of a champ . he is a lane bully who falls of if not ahead. he gets bonus damage on passive and reduces shields and healing on a target. he gets more ad on E and on his ult. he is sitting just shy of 50% win rate in plat + elos with above average pick rate and well above average ban rate ( base line pick/ban rate is 7% )
> [{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pRTs4v7R,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-12T03:33:53.704+0000) > > well 1st off they arent the same champ so lets start there. > > darius only has sustain from his Q , he is immobile. aatrox is more like a riven with his Q. he dont have sustain like darius cuz of his ult. > > i dont think aatrox is that bad of a champ . he is a lane bully who falls of if not ahead. he gets bonus damage on passive and reduces shields and healing on a target. he gets more ad on E and on his ult. > > he is sitting just shy of 50% win rate in plat + elos with above average pick rate and well above average ban rate > ( base line pick/ban rate is 7% ) Yeah but falling off if not ahead is a unhealthy place to be at for a champion like Aatrox
: darius E just gives armor pen % it dont have to pull you in to get armor pen. its just there as part of his kit for all of his abilties/autos dont think this is what aatrox needs. he does alot of damage with is Q already and casting is 3 times his W is just used to allow him to use the Q
> [{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pRTs4v7R,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-12-12T03:08:17.493+0000) > > darius E just gives armor pen % it dont have to pull you in to get armor pen. > > its just there as part of his kit for all of his abilties/autos > > dont think this is what aatrox needs. he does alot of damage with is Q already and casting is 3 times his W is just used to allow him to use the Q okay so what would you do then? i really think aatrox could benefit from a darius E passive on his W. Darius has more sustain in a 1V1 than aatrox.
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drash79 (NA)
: If queue dodging was still not punishable, no in this meta would be allowed to play off meta. And you'll be waiting up to ten minutes every time. Sure every now or then, you'll see a team comp or player you hate. Sure you may lose, sure the game may draw out for too long. But, i rather play my game with one minor set back, then not to play at all.__
> [{quoted}](name=drash79,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ubElLTAE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-03T12:40:24.116+0000) > > If queue dodging was still not punishable, no in this meta would be allowed to play off meta. > And you'll be waiting up to ten minutes every time. > > Sure every now or then, you'll see a team comp or player you hate. > > Sure you may lose, sure the game may draw out for too long. But, i rather play my game with one minor set back, then not to play at all.__ Yeah but would you rather lose only 3 L.P or lose 21?
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: its not something you can report for and you trolling because your intended pick champion is bad is closer to being reportable offense than banning your pick not cuz the guy is a jerk that you throw the game for all other players btw, why try to win if your intention is picking a champ that will make you lose game? (just need comfirmation did you pick raka to troll them because ahri got banned or did you pick her cuz its just a champ you play mid?)
> [{quoted}](name=QuadraBananas,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ElN4ETxN,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-10-27T23:28:19.227+0000) > > its not something you can report for > and you trolling because your intended pick champion is bad is closer to being reportable offense than banning your pick Ahri is really good right now, so what do you mean? She's has no hard counters and fits into any team comp. She's one of the best mid lanners for solo que. And he banned it not becuase it was bad, he banned it becuase he wanted me to dodge because he was playing in top lane.
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Even (NA)
: He is top tier
> [{quoted}](name=I NEED YOU,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=m8jN0EAq,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-10-15T20:42:48.754+0000) > > He is top tier Where does it say that?
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meowwow7 (NA)
: by the looks of your 7/17/6 jungler the enemy jungler had the bright idea to use his better early game to invade and kill your jungler in his own jungle
> [{quoted}](name=meowwow7,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3WVABJaI,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-10-15T00:48:37.042+0000) > > by the looks of your 7/17/6 jungler the enemy jungler had the bright idea to use his better early game to invade and kill your jungler in his own jungle Then who's fault is That? Master yi should know that he loses 1v1 to khazix early game. Instead of fighting khazix he could have just let him take his camps instead of inting 1v1, I even pink warded tri bush for the kid, I can't hold his hand.
zPity (NA)
: many options for single player games. consider them. nothing worst then a toxic summoner like you. you hold your team back by flaming them with your keyboard instead of rotating with your champion. gl
> [{quoted}](name=zPity,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3WVABJaI,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-10-14T23:16:27.875+0000) > > many options for single player games. consider them. nothing worst then a toxic summoner like you. you hold your team back by flaming them with your keyboard instead of rotating with your champion. > > gl You average like 5 cs per minute nothing says why you are gold besides the fact that you get carried and play S tier champions.
Jamaree (NA)
: Team game, you want your individual to be the only thing that matters, play a single player game.
> [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3WVABJaI,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-10-14T23:02:51.971+0000) > > Team game, you want your individual to be the only thing that matters, play a single player game. If it's obvious that I'm better then my entire team then I should be placed with a team thats ay my skill level.
DabDog (NA)
: because you aren't consistent clearly.
> [{quoted}](name=DabDog,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3WVABJaI,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-10-14T23:08:44.538+0000) > > because you aren't consistent clearly. Okay so if my jung is 7/17 is that my fault that he died? or is it his fault for feeding the opposing jungler. If my entire team is averaging 11 deaths and I only have 5 does that mean I'm better then them? Yes it does. I should gain LP for that
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Moody P (NA)
: new aatrox is infinitely more offensive
> [{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JLYJyc9v,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2018-10-13T17:40:46.433+0000) > > new aatrox is infinitely more offensive I'm not gonna deny that. I prefer a more aggressive play style that's why the old Aatrox was my main becuase his playstyle was counter intuitive compared to most champions, old Aatrox wants to go all in and go ham other champions play more safe and methodical, or some just want to use insane mobility to outplay their opponents. Aatrox didn't have insane mobility, aatrox wants to jump in and kill everything, his old kit rewards aggression. I do love the rework I don't dislike it, after some time of getting used to him he's stating to grow on me. I want both champions new Aatrox and old Aatrox .
Pika Fox (NA)
: No.
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JLYJyc9v,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-10-13T17:03:12.767+0000) > > No. Yes
: Old Aatrox was a problematic champ. Bringing him back isn't a good thing. Yes, there are plenty of other problematic champs, too, and I think they should all get the same treatment down the line.
> [{quoted}](name=RenownedWheat42,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JLYJyc9v,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-10-13T17:02:11.554+0000) > > Old Aatrox was a problematic champ. Bringing him back isn't a good thing. > > Yes, there are plenty of other problematic champs, too, and I think they should all get the same treatment down the line. He wasnt played 24/7
: Did you every listen to Riot??? They clearly stated why old Aatrox was a giant problem champion. Aatrox is never being reverted, drain tanks are impossible to balance. Thats exactly why Swain (my favorite champion) got a rework also, and im okay with it, i understand why old Swain was kinda unhealthy.
> [{quoted}](name=Dethflash,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JLYJyc9v,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-10-13T17:05:51.971+0000) > > Did you every listen to Riot??? They clearly stated why old Aatrox was a giant problem champion. Aatrox is never being reverted, drain tanks are impossible to balance. Thats exactly why Swain (my favorite champion) got a rework also, and im okay with it, i understand why old Swain was kinda unhealthy. Did you not hear me? Aatrox was a drain tank becuase of his old W bloodthirst I'm asking that they give new Aatrox the damage portion of his old W not the healing part, his W had two actives that could be switched. Im askimg that they give the damage part and his old passive without the revive and the AOE nuke part of his old R with the Attack speed
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: > [{quoted}](name=sagabeast,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YGpOvqnY,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2018-10-11T22:51:32.560+0000) > > But why is that bad it's not like he was played all the time. The people who played him where his mains. And he had a laughable early game. He only became a problem and oppressive if he was fed. > He was litterallly the most garbage champion for nearly 2 years untill right before the rework. Sorry if I penta > Killed the enemy team on my main? Aatrox was a god teir pick before his rework Imagine if Maokai's healing was enough that he never died. That's bad. Aatrox stayed bad to prevent that from happening. This game can't support healing on that scale from AA.
> [{quoted}](name=Ðeath XIII,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YGpOvqnY,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2018-10-11T23:03:39.910+0000) > > Imagine if Maokai's healing was enough that he never died. That's bad. Aatrox stayed bad to prevent that from happening. This game can't support healing on that scale from AA. But it's okay for red kayn to Q through 3 people and heal back to full health?
: Because only Marksmen are allowed to stat check
> [{quoted}](name=Mordepool,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YGpOvqnY,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-10-11T22:45:43.872+0000) > > Because only Marksmen are allowed to stat check Jax and yi are about as stack check as old aatrox. Except that Aatrox was able to kill both of them.
: Aatrox was stat check because if he could outheal the damage you put out as a melee champion you couldn't kill him. You aren't using Stat Check correctly. Old Swain would be a DPS check if he had infinite mana.
> [{quoted}](name=Ðeath XIII,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YGpOvqnY,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-10-11T22:21:56.484+0000) > > Aatrox was stat check because if he could outheal the damage you put out as a melee champion you couldn't kill him. > > You aren't using Stat Check correctly. > > Old Swain would be a DPS check if he had infinite mana. But why is that bad it's not like he was played all the time. The people who played him where his mains. And he had a laughable early game. He only became a problem and oppressive if he was fed. He was litterallly the most garbage champion for nearly 2 years untill right before the rework. Sorry if I penta Killed the enemy team on my main? Aatrox was a god teir pick before his rework
: He was removed for having a generic and unfun, overcomplicated kit and barely being played by anyone else than his 3 korean mains
> [{quoted}](name=Skullgetti,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YGpOvqnY,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-10-11T21:36:43.000+0000) > > He was removed for having a generic and unfun, overcomplicated kit and barely being played by anyone else than his 3 korean mains I mained him, so he did have people who played him. Just becuase he was unpopular doesn't mean he was unfun to play. He was my favorite champion
: I'm not sure if Kai'sa is a stat check champion... or feast or famine. I've been behind and came back with good play, and been ahead ... and gave up my lead by being an idiot. Aatrox was able to do neither of those. Couldn't catch up, and unless monumentarily bad like 'walked 4 towers deep into your fountain bad'. He wouldn't lose his lead.
> [{quoted}](name=Hethalean,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YGpOvqnY,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-10-11T21:47:46.729+0000) > > I'm not sure if Kai'sa is a stat check champion... or feast or famine. I've been behind and came back with good play, and been ahead ... and gave up my lead by being an idiot. > > Aatrox was able to do neither of those. Couldn't catch up, and unless monumentarily bad like 'walked 4 towers deep into your fountain bad'. He wouldn't lose his lead. Yes he could he was reliant on items to be effective. Same with kaisa. If you split pushed all game when behind as Aatrox after a certain point you would have your items and be really strong. You shouldn't talk about him if u know nothing. I mained him . Go look at my match history I got Quadra on Kaisa and that was because she's stat check.
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: {{item:3085}} ???
> [{quoted}](name=ZackTheWaffleMan,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UuMtYdGd,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-10-10T20:25:45.415+0000) > > {{item:3085}} > > ??? Only ranged champions can build that.
: If they did this, it would only do it on the first target hit and it would be lame. Riot doesn't like the idea of AoE abilities proccing onhits in an AoE because they are afraid to do cool stuff. But to be fair it would be really stupid with Tiamat since that item is so easy to rush.
Yasuo Q is and Aoe in line upfront of him and it's apply onhit, imagine if yasuos Q didn't apply onehit effects, it would be one if not the worst ability in the game lol
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: The skins have been revealed already - Bewitching Janna, Trick or Treat Ekko, and Count Kledula.
These skins look really lame. I honestly expected a lot better from riot. A bewitching skin for a janna? A vampire skin for a goofy champion like kled?
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saltran (EUW)
: Yeah no, she first needs small gameplay tweak and specially towards her ability to fucking save her supp for free and also Drake/Baron dmg with E cap. Then she may be balanced.
You didn't have to down vote do you not want riot to see this and acknowledge that this champiom exist?
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: > [{quoted}](name=Luigi Tortellini,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zrg4GFry,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2018-10-06T01:55:24.869+0000) > > spoken like someone who's never played the champion. How could going from silky smooth drain tank auto attacker, to a clunky riven with a little lifesteal for lane bullying possibly feel the same? Because "Right click, higher stats win, but also come back to life if you lose" is not a healthy design. You don't have to like new Aatrox and he might have problems, but the skill bar for him went from in the ground to up in the clouds.
> [{quoted}](name=MorganFreemanBot,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zrg4GFry,comment-id=000000010001,timestamp=2018-10-07T00:15:44.462+0000) > > Because "Right click, higher stats win, but also come back to life if you lose" is not a healthy design. > > You don't have to like new Aatrox and he might have problems, but the skill bar for him went from in the ground to up in the clouds. A GA does the same shit so should we remove GA from the game too? Since anyone can build and get an Aatrox ultimate?
mack9112 (NA)
: Plenty of people like aatrox and his damage is absolutely fine what in the world is this post. Champion difficulty went up with rework from a garen level to a riven level so of course alot of old mains don't like him. Basis of champion identity was retained with new opportunities of skill expression.
> [{quoted}](name=mack9112,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zrg4GFry,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2018-10-06T08:28:34.968+0000) > > Plenty of people like aatrox and his damage is absolutely fine what in the world is this post. > > Champion difficulty went up with rework from a garen level to a riven level so of course alot of old mains don't like him. > > Basis of champion identity was retained with new opportunities of skill expression. That's not true. Aatrox was not easy to play before the rework he was a melee adc, if you couldn't attack move click correctly you couldn't stick to a target. He didn't have a point click gap closer or movement speed buffs from any of his abilities, two of his abilities where skill shots so if you weren't good with him he was garbage. The new Aatrox is lot easier to play then the old one. He presses Q for his damage. If you didn't play the old Aatrox then stfu becuase you don't know what you are talking about. How dare you compare garen to the old Aatrox. I dont like the new Aatrox becuase of his difficulty you moron, I dislike him becuase he isn't Aatrox, he's riven 2.0.
: You are trolling right? Idk much about AAtrox late game , but what I know it , he always 1v4 us , and to kill him he usually kills 1 or 2 with him every time I see him
> [{quoted}](name=Noor Sakata,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zrg4GFry,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2018-10-06T14:26:01.357+0000) > > You are trolling right? > Idk much about AAtrox late game , but what I know it , he always 1v4 us , and to kill him he usually kills 1 or 2 with him every time I see him Well if you play shit like Syndra then of course Aatrox will destroy you
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