: Snowdown 2018 Pass: is it worth it?
So I went ahead and bought the pass and so now I have some base numbers to work with. 5 tokens on a PVP loss, 10 on a win, and 20 every day for first win. I'll use Master Chests as a baseline for evaluation. Master Chest = 165 RP or 150 tokens. therefore 150 tokens = 165 RP (more or less). The pass costs 1450 RP and lands 150 tokens (effectively worth 165 RP), plus a capsule (750 RP), and an icon (250 RP) so right off the bat you pay 1450 RP for 1165 RP of "product" (-285 RP value). first win of the day during the event = 20 RP/day for 4 weeks = 560 tokens = 615.9999 RP value, putting you at +330.9999 RP value if you ONLY get the first win of the day bonus. Whatever you get after that on wins and losses from PVP is just icing. So I think I can objectively say now that, yes the pass is worth it.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=HommeGoujon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9JBieIHW,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2018-11-22T20:35:04.533+0000) > > I still don't get it. WTF is going on? lol Yeah. Got me. Dunno.
> [{quoted}](name=Horrible Human,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9JBieIHW,comment-id=0000000000010000,timestamp=2018-11-22T20:41:37.298+0000) > > Yeah. Got me. Dunno. Because the BE value ends in 9 instead of being rounded up. The OP is just stuck with that 9 BE forever because everything in the game costs amounts that end in 0. That's some shit luck..... although it doesn't make the game unplayable. The game is still quite _literally_ playable. {{sticker:cass-cry}}
: Why the fuck isn't Brand being nerfed????
i agree he is very unfun to play against. his W has a good range and decent size area too, so his early lane is a pain in the ass. basically forces you under tower until he runs out of mana and has to back. Granted that leaves his more vulnerable to ganks, but I prefer not to rely on my jungler being good... or even around (hey it happens). building mobility is a good counter, but that takes a little time still that gives him advantage on lane pressure. he is about as fun to play against as a heimer. just have to let them run out of mana then hope you don't get stunned when you engage. i would be down for the area or range of his W to be reduced. I think that would make things more manageable.
: Hey, so umm, Zyra ever getting a new skin?
She will but probably nothing creative or new. Expect another "program" skin. (not saying dislike program skins, but lol skins have been pretty lacking in imagination for a while)
Rioter Comments
: "Relic Shield is still slightly overperforming compared to the other support items"
Sadolm (EUW)
: Yasuo for sure is annoying but as an adc main the one champion that makes me wanna quit league whenever i play against him is draven. You. cant. trade. with. a. draven. You just cant. He'll just deal 120 damage to you with one autoattack at lvl 1 and there's nothing you can do about that. Most of the time you either have to hard farm and make sure he never gets a kill but with his extra gold passive thats just not possible. if you become a draven god you can pretty much just carry yourself to diamond because of how fucking busted he is IMO TLDR; fuck {{champion:119}}
Yeah I ended up with draven on aram during his ftp week and immediately lost all respect for draven mains. Had never played him before. Easiest kills ever.
: As a support main...
Yeah happens quite often. You can be crushing bot lane and your other lanes just fail hard and it's gg. To be honest it's not any one role or position that wins games. It is which team fails the hardest. My favourite is when your lane is doing well but your jungle wastes their time trying to save a failing top lane, only for bot to get 4v2 ganked and lose first tower.
: I feel like Jhin should be hamlet. J4 isn't crazy enough.
> [{quoted}](name=GedweyStenr,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=X3sAxErl,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-03-26T13:47:46.282+0000) > > I feel like Jhin should be hamlet. J4 isn't crazy enough. Yeah but J4 has the whole "torn between honour and duty" thing going on which I felt fit the motif well. Also he's actually a Prince. Now, if I were casting Spiderman and someone had to be carnage. {{champion:202}} for sure.
: I like Shakespeare. He liked to do a lot of gender bending in his plays too. Where he would have young boys play as "women" characters and then have the "women" characters play as "male" characters. This was also back in the day when only men could become actors. I miss those times... http://www.auplod.com/u/pdolua802d6.png
You know, initially I had Taric as hamlet. But he's too handsome to die.
: Honest question about missing my skill shot on purpose...
Yeah I've run into this as well. If you have X intent while using an ability, and then X is achieved through that use, then you didn't miss. I still get those people who are "LOL NO U MISSED RTARD" even if you try to explain it. And yes, it is usually good to land your shots instead but that depends on the ability you're using and the situation at hand. You have a jungler near by and can make the enemy dodge towards the river? Good times.
: Xayah and Rakan
{{champion:498}} is definitely stronger than rakan.
Rioter Comments
: Ornn Game Crash
Still happening
: Does Revitalize Work With Second Wind?
Rioter Comments
Bultz (NA)
: Can we gut morgana's shield already
It does go down and it only blocks magic damage and cc. Adcs still cut through it, as do towers and literally anyone's basic attacks. If you see her throw it up it means someone else isn't shielded. Shift your focus. Also then you know it's on cool down for at least 10s. It's like any other ability. Use your Windows of opportunity.
: Pretty disappointed
{{item:3098}} upgrade this LAST {{item:1001}} upgrade this only after getting at least one full item Now I see you're playing mostly {{champion:37}} {{champion:497}} {{champion:143}} And by the looks of your skill picks and runes it seems like you're setting yourself up to fail by getting overcomplicated. (unsealed spellbook can be great, if you know when/what to change, those champs are great but have a lot in their kits to keep track of) Try to simplify your game and give yourself concrete objectives. For instance, you're buying control wards and that's awesome. But your overall wards placed per game is still pretty low. I improved my warding by challenging myself to have a vision score at *least* double the number of wards I placed every game. Lane pushed and adc wants to back? Ward enemy blue or dragon. Pick a simple champ and stick with them. Really learn all the ins and outs. Watch YouTube videos for tips. Play around with different rune builds until you find something that works well. The game is always changing so your builds will have to as well. Don't just learn what the best runes or items are. Learn WHY. That will help you develop your own builds more effectively. Don't dive for kills that aren't garunteed (wait until enemies are below 1/2 health). Be content with getting one hit in and walking away. Staying alive is more important than getting a kill. Always. If you don't know where the enemy jungler is then save your snares/stuns/cc and assume you will get ganked. Use them to save your adc. Assume your adc is an idiot and you will have to save their life. Be prepared to always. However, if they try something stupid (like a tower dive with no vision and enemies with lots of health) dont feel obligated to die with them. Know when to walk away from a fight. Don't push past the river unless you know where their jungle is (preferably top). You will die. If your adc is tanking hard, despite your efforts, and first tower has been taken, go support whoever is doing well. Is your top steamrolling? Great. Go help them get a tower. That can be a bit more tricky if it's your jungler taking off. Then I'd say if they have a habit of ganking a certain lane then that's where you want to be. Feel free to bounce between lanes to help, but don't travel the jungle alone unless you know where all the enemies are. The best defence is a good offense. You left bot to help mid, now your bot is getting pushed and your adc is mad at your because they are 2-9-1. Tough shit draven, if you are 3 or 4 manning another lane and plowing towers without remorse, the enemy WILL back off of your towers. *NB: this does not apply if they are at your base and taking inhibitors.* Ahhh that's all I can really think of for now. Good luck out there! Oh and if you're getting stressed just go play an ARAM.
Rioter Comments
: Need some community help for a school marketing project I'm doing involving Riot & League
1) 5-6 years roughly 2) I enjoy the replay-ability of it. Yeah it's the same map and objectives, but compositions are always different, skill levels change, and how it plays out varies from game to game, all of which provides different challenges and experiences within a familiar context. Probably the same reason games like Diablo and Pokemon are popular. 3) I think what makes sense for them to make is a game more focused on the lore aspects of league. They would likely want it connected to league in that way because there's an established market and customer base. Perhaps that might lead them to a dungeon crawler (ie Diablo) or to an rpg style game (ie final fantasy, chrono trigger). But those games take lots of time and money. So theyd be more likely to release smaller fun games, maybe 8bit style like they have in the past. Like a league style candy crush or something they can pump out easy with good accessibility and potential revenue. 4) I've always wanted a game mode that focused on the rich stories and world built up behind league. Like a 5v5 map that was noxus vs demacia exclusively would be amazing. Stuff like that.
meowwow7 (NA)
: i like conqueror
True damage is such bullshit. The game would be better off without it.
: I think you are right. Stand in bush Place E wait for the perfect time, walk out of bush and BOOM stunned adc or both
I'm curious how long the first blade from E will stay and the cool down on it. Also I think being a little squish for melee support will be a challenge. But Q refresh could make it easy to dive for relic procs and get out again.
Nismø (NA)
: High Quality Skins for Supports
Root: ok. *gives lux another skin* {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=swanington,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=pGyUo7w6,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2018-03-20T15:33:50.800+0000) > > {{champion:81}} {{champion:114}} {{champion:145}} {{champion:10}} {{champion:240}} {{champion:497}} {{champion:35}} {{champion:27}} {{champion:91}} {{champion:142}} > > Sorry I couldn't stop after 5.... DISQUALIFIED! DISQUALIFIED!!!!! GUARDSSZZZZZZ!!!!!! SEIZE THIS INDIVIDUAL IMMEDIATELY!
> [{quoted}](name=oOBestEveNAOo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=pGyUo7w6,comment-id=00080000,timestamp=2018-03-20T15:36:24.697+0000) > > DISQUALIFIED! DISQUALIFIED!!!!! > > GUARDSSZZZZZZ!!!!!! SEIZE THIS INDIVIDUAL IMMEDIATELY! I mean 10 is like 5 twice. So maybe I'm just being highly efficient?
: Delete 5 Champions Thread
{{champion:81}} {{champion:114}} {{champion:145}} {{champion:10}} {{champion:240}} {{champion:497}} {{champion:35}} {{champion:27}} {{champion:91}} {{champion:142}} Sorry I couldn't stop after 5....
: Is Ornn still worth playing?
Really fun and shines in teamfights. (knocking up 5 people feels amazing). Also still a viable tank cc support.
: > [{quoted}](name=swanington,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=wgOwfZr5,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-03-19T18:14:58.410+0000) > > If you're getting any honour from premades those also don't count. Other than that I'd say just hang in there. It'll go up. I play alot more solo then my friends too and have gotten up to 4 honors many times.. Why do riot reward me with keys saying I'm getting alot of honor but never giving me a checkpoint? AND if I am not eligable for a checkpoint why did i start in honor rank 2 and not honor rank 0? The thing with friendly honors dont count is old, its from the old old old system. Riot said in the new honor system page that 2 premade honors equals 1 non premade honor. (They said it in different words atleast). Something about "if you got 2 premade honors or 1 non-premade honor last game you will have a honor flare the next game". In that logic 1 non premade honor equals 2 premade honors but if It's the same logic whilest getting a checkpoint i don't know. Could just be for the flare. ty for the responses though, keep em coming.
> [{quoted}](name=Tobbetobster,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=wgOwfZr5,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2018-03-19T18:28:36.524+0000) > > I play alot more solo then my friends too and have gotten up to 4 honors many times.. Why do riot reward me with keys saying I'm getting alot of honor but never giving me a checkpoint? AND if I am not eligable for a checkpoint why did i start in honor rank 2 and not honor rank 0? > > The thing with friendly honors dont count is old, its from the old old old system. Riot said in the new honor system page that 2 premade honors equals 1 non premade honor. (They said it in different words atleast). Something about "if you got 2 premade honors or 1 non-premade honor last game you will have a honor flare the next game". In that logic 1 non premade honor equals 2 premade honors but if It's the same logic whilest getting a checkpoint i don't know. Could just be for the flare. > > ty for the responses though, keep em coming. Ahhh sorry the info in my last reply was inaccurate. I started at honour 3 so I got a little turned around. I double checked on the riot page (https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/featured/honor) So yeah it does go up to 5 and everyone (unless you've been punished/stripped of honour) starts at at least level 2. Myself I'm currently sitting at 3-2 Perhaps they have a system in place that only they are aware of to keep the community roughly in the same place at the same time. It does seem like people "honour up" in waves. But I highly doubt it's something they would announce if honour progression wasn't genuinely organic.
: > [{quoted}](name=swanington,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=wgOwfZr5,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-03-19T17:55:09.717+0000) > > It's not a bug it just takes a long time. Remember, it goes for the whole season and there's only 4 levels of honour so people won't be hitting honour 4 until maybe 6-8 months from now. > I haven't seen anyone past honour 2 tier 2 yet. Pretty sure that's where the front of the wave is. I know but as I said I have friends who get way less honors from both strangers and premades and they still have honor rank 2 checkpoint 2-3. I have atleast 5 friends in a close circle who get way less then me every day and still get the checkpoints now. Why do I have to wait?
> [{quoted}](name=Tobbetobster,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=wgOwfZr5,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-03-19T18:02:00.496+0000) > > I know but as I said I have friends who get way less honors from both strangers and premades and they still have honor rank 2 checkpoint 2-3. I have atleast 5 friends in a close circle who get way less then me every day and still get the checkpoints now. Why do I have to wait? If you're getting any honour from premades those also don't count. Other than that I'd say just hang in there. It'll go up.
: Could we perhaps discuss Nami?
Nami is fine. Sure I would love to see 4 bounces on her W but honestly that might be too strong. And yeah her bubble can be tough to land (especially against super mobile champs) but it's probably for the best. People who end up in the bubble die.
: Why won't I get an honor checkpoint?
It's not a bug it just takes a long time. Remember, it goes for the whole season and there's only 4 levels of honour so people won't be hitting honour 4 until maybe 6-8 months from now. I haven't seen anyone past honour 2 tier 2 yet. Pretty sure that's where the front of the wave is.
Jamaree (NA)
: If you have a Little Caesars near you, you get a free pizza April 2nd.
Can only be redeemed in "the 50 United States&..". I guess Canadians don't watch basketball. (they do, but I as one don't. I just love pizza and am sad). {{sticker:sg-janna}}
: Basic List of all the imbalances within every role & aspect of the game
: The life of a support main
{{champion:75}} support is so much fun. The slow is massive and you can tank really well. Don't get nearly as fed as solo lane but that's true whenever you take a non-support (i.e. mage) bot.
: New Epic skin: Resistance Illaoi
I hope this doesn't mean deep space illaoi is off the table for good. It was still an awesome concept.
: The shop should have some kind of mechanism to understand that if I ddint buy a skin last time on your shop on a 50-70% discount , i wont buy it this time so it should at least offer something new,also a 20% discount on a 750 skin not an attractive offer.
> [{quoted}](name=II Skillrex II,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=k3uTspUd,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2018-03-15T21:03:57.241+0000) > > The shop should have some kind of mechanism to understand that if I ddint buy a skin last time on your shop on a 50-70% discount , i wont buy it this time so it should at least offer something new,also a 20% discount on a 750 skin not an attractive offer. Honestly anything less than 50% off is a joke. What's the point of 20% off? I'll just wait til it goes on regular sale or I find the shard.
SkyeMoon (NA)
: I wouldn't mind unstoppable, I just thought he did too much max % hp dmg with W + brittle proc. I just wanted the brittle dmg to be down
Yeah riot definitely changed the wrong things. People: ornn does too much damage with W. Riot: ok. We'll take away unstoppable. =/ Definitely feels very weak to play with him now. Using unstoppable correctly took good judgement and could turn a fight around if done well. Now it's a very lackluster feeling skill.
Slythion (NA)
: 5 custom rune pages vs. 2?
2 editable rune pages is what you get if you haven't bought any before/after the reforged change. Then there's a handful of preset pages you have access to but can't edit.
: Question For Other Janna Mains
Coin is still better. Janna's AP scaling isn't huge (70% on the shield = an extra 14 shield protection from frost fang). Besides if you're running celerity, coin gives you movement speed plus 5%cdr right away. Plus I'm pretty sure it generates more gold on average, but I want to double check that since the changes. As for boots, I find W and items (you know I'm running twin shadows because why wouldn't you) provide enough that I always get either merc treads or ninja boots depending on the enemy team. Don't need the extra cdr from lucidity and honestly mobas are awful the second you get hit or want to hit something. Embrace your strengths! Edit: coin also has a built in mini-manaflow band.
Raw (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=swanington,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bk7g16jU,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-03-14T05:48:48.452+0000) > > Fuckin toasted and eveything. I has pepper jack cheese and I spread some herbs & spices cream cheese in it for flavor. http://www.auplod.com/u/oduplaa3270.png
> [{quoted}](name=Raw,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bk7g16jU,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-03-14T05:54:47.091+0000) > > I has pepper jack cheese and I spread some herbs & spices cream cheese in it for flavor. > http://www.auplod.com/u/oduplaa3270.png I love shen too but FUCK RIOT EAT THE SANDWHICH.
Stacona (NA)
: Zyra Re-Imagined Ability Kit
I love the idea of the popup flower and your idea to place seeds is interesting. But I'm standing still for 1.5s in lane is leaving yourself wide open. Definitely going to get you some punishment. Also I dislike the idea of the cursor guided vines. But I also dislike playing sion.
Raw (NA)
: Riot, I made you a honey turkey sandwich.
: Overgrow rune
Overgrowth is hella weak no matter where you are on the map.
Seen (NA)
: If this game positions were north american animals...
I can't tell if I'm more off put by the inaccurate animal descriptions or the choice of representing support as roadkill.
Kythers (NA)
: Post things here that I will complain about
: Feel really relieved and happy when not playing LoL, extremely angry and exhausted when playing it
Maybe try different modes or builds than you're used to? Stay away from ranked so there's less pressure to win. Or better yet, find a group a players to play with that you know don't take it too seriously. I find it helps to be joking around with friends (usually on discord) while playing. Really takes the edge off.
: Should new released champions be allowed in ranked right away?
Definitely not. You basically have to waste a ban to make sure they don't appear because everyone knows new champs will come out broken (either too strong or too weak). Test that shit out in norms. Does PBE get early access to new champs? If not, should it?
: OMG STEVEN UNIVERSE CONNECTION TO NEW CHROMA
{{sticker:slayer-pantheon-rainbows}}
: Bloodstone is a serious/cheap dark skin
Seriously sucks. Taric skins atm are basically chromas.
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