: I think he's pretty good He can basically shut down most AD top lanes minus a few exceptions
> [{quoted}](name=Jimmy Rustles,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OMEITpeH,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-19T03:18:59.598+0000) > > I think he's pretty good > > He can basically shut down most AD top lanes minus a few exceptions Shutting down Renekton, who's popularity just recently spiked over 12% pickrate? yea ok...
: no way you had 600 armor with two armor items and boots you were at the range of 250-300 max, and that was a full lethality lee sin with ga so most of that armor is useless
> [{quoted}](name=LuxButt99,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=T2YXuoyT,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-19T12:53:27.845+0000) > > no way you had 600 armor with two armor items and boots > you were at the range of 250-300 max, and that was a full lethality lee sin with ga so most of that armor is useless If you max W on Malphite you get way way more armor.
Rioter Comments
: Vayne eh, but Teemo is definitely hiding under Riot's radar somehow. I was so hoping the Teemo ~~gutting~~ rework was gonna go through.
> [{quoted}](name=Z3Sleepier,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=292drrqz,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-14T19:54:17.557+0000) > > Vayne eh, but Teemo is definitely hiding under Riot's radar somehow. > > I was so hoping the Teemo ~~gutting~~ rework was gonna go through. You do know Teemo is the last straw to veteran players? He is the mascot of league of legends gutting him will literally kill league quicker than anything you've seen.
: To my jungler warwick who camped aery Jayce to the point of ragequit...
Yea riiight, Hashinshin is complaining about Junglers not losing exp for camping top laners. Literally you are defending top lane by saying camping is a good strategy thus it doesn't need changes.
Rioter Comments
: Why did you make a thread just to reply to another thread?
> [{quoted}](name=Packun Flower,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dIru9Eaw,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-09T03:24:27.983+0000) > > Why did you make a thread just to reply to another thread? To raise awareness?
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: Yeah but they're gutting lux that's my problem. Also most post I see and them saying the nerfs are too much not that she doesn't need nerfs. Also where were you when karthus players wanted a rune removed just because they didn't want karthus nerfed.
> [{quoted}](name=boricCentaur1,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3Mm80Ket,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-01T23:37:33.091+0000) > > Yeah but they're gutting lux that's my problem. Also most post I see and them saying the nerfs are too much not that she doesn't need nerfs. > > Also where were you when karthus players wanted a rune removed just because they didn't want karthus nerfed. Yes but for the case of karthus, he is literally the only champion that goes dark harvest. It's not like aftershock is built only on Lux.
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: Top always gets shit on is why they don't want ranged tops. Everytime you have to deal with {{champion:67}} {{champion:17}} {{champion:133}} {{champion:112}} it feels unfair because most toplaners aren't made to deal with getting harassed from ranged all game at early levels.
> [{quoted}](name=AnnieNTraps,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EjFrjOEw,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-27T15:38:14.160+0000) > > Top always gets shit on is why they don't want ranged tops. Everytime you have to deal with {{champion:67}} {{champion:17}} {{champion:133}} {{champion:112}} it feels unfair because most toplaners aren't made to deal with getting harassed from ranged all game at early levels. Yea but most top laners gets the arsenal tool of being caught in every bad situation. While ditching ridiculous amount of damage when behind which suits them, dealing with ranged champions. {{item:3053}} {{item:3812}} {{item:3161}} {{item:3065}} etc. Lost lane? It's fine I can go farm bottom with my {{item:3077}}
: Can Teemo get his damage back on his E and shrooms?
It's true if you do the math right, {{item:1054}} + {{item:3211}} nullifies about 60% of teemo E dot damage. If teemo has 100 AP or under.
: @RiotRepertoir why would a scepter be built from a mask?
Abyssal mask was suppose to replace Abyssal Scepter.
Xavanic (NA)
: The state of shyvana
What are you talking about? Both of her build is viable, if you are fighting ap shyvana then you are getting disrespected and cheese upon. One is a cheese build while the other is a splitpushing build.
: What do you think Riot intended for Varus to be during his development?
I though they wanted Lethality Varus to be a thing, like the sniper artillery ADC, but noooo had to give him a long cooldown on his Q.
: Which champs look the funniest when they miss theire ults?
{{champion:236}} THIS GUY hands down. When this guy miss his ult its hard to not laugh.
: Man, Ryze not being nearly as free in top... What a tragedy. {{item:3070}}
> [{quoted}](name=Star PlatinumELO,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tzK6dYfN,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-06-19T15:20:30.834+0000) > > Man, Ryze not being nearly as free in top... What a tragedy. > > {{item:3070}} Yea free with that 46% winrate wooooh soo free.
: lvl 7 if you are doing well lvl 9 if you are doing ok you can instant wave clear with your spells you don't even play mages to be complaining about this...
> [{quoted}](name=Ornndyr2k19,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pUXREWEE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-19T14:54:25.966+0000) > > lvl 7 if you are doing well > lvl 9 if you are doing ok > you can instant wave clear with your spells > > you don't even play mages to be complaining about this... Yea I only play bruisers now cuz its soo much easier than play other classes. I can fall behind and still be useful, I'm rewarded for doing bad with broken item like sterak cage, spirit visage massive amounts of healing and damages for losing my lane to a range unit.
Lûnà (EUW)
: Yuumi is disappionting.
Make her like ABATHUR, let her sit in base and support from far away.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=Chembaron Yamada,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KlMcoUsv,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-06-19T14:05:13.951+0000) > > AP Sona kinda is the problem in pro play rn, tho. > Have you seen some games with her? She is nuking champions from 100% down to like 25% with just 1 Q + AA. So would any other mage with 2 or 3 items and Deathcap, lol?
> [{quoted}](name=Shirvallah,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KlMcoUsv,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-19T14:09:54.702+0000) > > So would any other mage with 2 or 3 items and Deathcap, lol? Well she is the only champion in the hole game with a long range homing abilities, the other one was the old heimerdinger he used to have a homing rocket but not anymore.
: https://media.giphy.com/media/l1IBjxTaN5uyEQWqI/giphy.gif I give you 299iq idea and this is how you respond to me. SMH
> [{quoted}](name=Relax I am noob,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tzK6dYfN,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-06-19T13:14:04.490+0000) > > https://media.giphy.com/media/l1IBjxTaN5uyEQWqI/giphy.gif > I give you 299iq idea and this is how you respond to me. SMH You could have you know, think ahead or deeper? What makes a battlemages stand out of the rest of the other mages? Tanky right? But they don't have tank stats! But they have some form of sustains right? Yea Sustains, but what kind of sustains? Shield and Spellvamp on a very low cooldown. Then you can say, they are mostly mid to low ranges champions, they do alot of sustained damages, they are played frontline times to times!
: When did Ryze ever heal himself? Ohhhhhhh. I got an idea! https://i.imgur.com/mlx8Q1l.jpg[\img] Let's see: https://i.imgur.com/OdOWvPF.png[\img] And the final touch: {{item:3146}} https://i.imgur.com/vn7RJSw.jpg[\img]
> [{quoted}](name=Relax I am noob,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tzK6dYfN,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-06-19T13:11:05.644+0000) > > When did Ryze ever heal himself? > > Ohhhhhhh. I got an idea! > https://i.imgur.com/mlx8Q1l.jpg[\img] > > Let's see: > https://i.imgur.com/OdOWvPF.png[\img] > And the final touch: > {{item:3146}} > https://i.imgur.com/vn7RJSw.jpg[\img] You know Viktor constantly shield himself? I didn't say you have to heal yourself to be called a battle mages, I said SUSTAIN thats means very low cooldown shield are considered too.
: They're not trying to nerf sona support they're trying to nerf ap sona. Also she is supposed to be a support like raka or janna.
> [{quoted}](name=boricCentaur1,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KlMcoUsv,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-06-19T12:51:10.114+0000) > > They're not trying to nerf sona support they're trying to nerf ap sona. > > Also she is supposed to be a support like raka or janna. But thats the problem, we LOVE AP sona its fun, its not broken or anything, its fun to play she has relatively big weakness being the lowest health champion and mid ranges and no mobility and no escapes. WE HATE support Sona because its booring, it makes you not feel like a carry when she feels like a carry when you play her.
: that damage nerf isn't really big tho i think the aura dmg nerf is more notice-able
> [{quoted}](name=Ornndyr2k19,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KlMcoUsv,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-19T12:19:59.461+0000) > > that damage nerf isn't really big tho > i think the aura dmg nerf is more notice-able 20% is alot on AP, 20% of 1000 is 200 for example. 20% of 400 is 80.
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: > [{quoted}](name=taleofsonata,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GuAdjnLO,comment-id=000400000000000000010000,timestamp=2019-06-17T16:41:35.487+0000) > > Top laners will complain about anything thats ranged and that they have a hard time getting close to. I dare you to pick {{champion:122}} {{champion:86}} {{champion:23}} {{champion:48}} {{champion:54}} {{champion:31}} {{champion:2}} and get counter picked by {{champion:67}} or karma top, see how fun it is for you before going 'toplaners are cry babies' its braindead mindless gameplay thats not fun for both sides
> [{quoted}](name=5StackUltOneShot,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GuAdjnLO,comment-id=0004000000000000000100000001,timestamp=2019-06-18T03:56:58.073+0000) > > I dare you to pick {{champion:122}} {{champion:86}} {{champion:23}} {{champion:48}} {{champion:54}} {{champion:31}} {{champion:2}} and get counter picked by {{champion:67}} or karma top, see how fun it is for you before going 'toplaners are cry babies' its braindead mindless gameplay thats not fun for both sides Remind you this is a team game, can't wait to camp that Vayne top with Rek Sai
: You think a kennen auto-attacking from range vs a melee trying to cs is putting in any effort? No, it's stupid to get free items for just AA-ing an enemy. You're also using the argument "you picked the wrong champ" which is just invalid.
> [{quoted}](name=kapitulera på 15,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lEbadxZL,comment-id=000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-18T09:29:13.721+0000) > > You think a kennen auto-attacking from range vs a melee trying to cs is putting in any effort? No, it's stupid to get free items for just AA-ing an enemy. You're also using the argument "you picked the wrong champ" which is just invalid. Kennen has no kill pressure vs a tanky melee champion, he even has trouble pushing them out of lane.
: Kleptomancy is a cool design and all
Klepto is for late game champion that almost have 0 Kill pressure in lane.
: You know , maphite scales off armor and not MR right? I DO AGREE, protobelt needs to cost more. But other than that no problem from me
> [{quoted}](name=Agent Apple ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GuAdjnLO,comment-id=0015,timestamp=2019-06-17T23:30:07.200+0000) > > You know , maphite scales off armor and not MR right? > I DO AGREE, protobelt needs to cost more. But other than that no problem from me Protobelt falls off hard late game, the damage becomes harder and harder to land at some points and the damage isn't worth it with the risk you take. It's used early for waves clear and damage, and late game its used for engage and waveclears.
: why is ashe in range of darius? ashe can kite darius. also darius would be dead by now anyways
> [{quoted}](name=AirKingNeo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GuAdjnLO,comment-id=000600000001,timestamp=2019-06-17T17:50:36.661+0000) > > why is ashe in range of darius? ashe can kite darius. also darius would be dead by now anyways Because deadman's plate give free 100 movement speed for just walking?
: Malphites problem isn’t his items.
> [{quoted}](name=Luminiferous Cat,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GuAdjnLO,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-06-17T17:12:20.393+0000) > > Malphites problem isn’t his items. Malphite problem is his items, he used to be seen in competitive plays and was a pretty popular pick too. There are champions who have never been on the competitive scenes before why would malphite be the problem?
: {{item:3147}} {{item:3814}} {{item:3142}} {{item:3036}} {{item:3071}} . Should we call all AD assassins OP too? Along with the marksmen and divers&juggernauts who can build both {{item:3071}} {{item:3036}} ? If having a lot of penetration in your build was all it took to be OP then the list would be near endless. And infact AD would be stronger because they have access to both {{item:3071}} {{item:3036}} while mages "only" have {{item:3135}} . There is also no armor equivalent of {{item:3194}} .
> [{quoted}](name=Thefrostyviking,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GuAdjnLO,comment-id=00070002,timestamp=2019-06-17T17:00:08.487+0000) > > {{item:3147}} {{item:3814}} {{item:3142}} {{item:3036}} {{item:3071}} . > > Should we call all AD assassins OP too? Along with the marksmen and divers&juggernauts who can build both {{item:3071}} {{item:3036}} ? > > > If having a lot of penetration in your build was all it took to be OP then the list would be near endless. > > > And infact AD would be stronger because they have access to both {{item:3071}} {{item:3036}} while mages "only" have {{item:3135}} . > > There is also no armor equivalent of {{item:3194}} . True, but the thing is why bruisers don't complain about AD assassins? Because they get in range and dies to bruisers. The only AD assassins that doesn't get in range and does well vs them most of the time are???? You guess it, {{champion:126}} {{champion:133}}
FSRER (EUNE)
: Me: _Looks up at Magic penetration items_ Sees {{item:3135}} 70 ability power +300 Health +40% magic pen 2650 gold {{item:3165}} +70 Ability Power +300 Health +15 Magic Penetration +grievious wounds 3000 gold {{item:3020}} Boots that straight up give magic penetration _Meanwhile_ You get all 3 magic resist items and you die from the enemy mage because he spammed 50 times Q W E within 5 seconds and he is still full mana while staying backline the entire time while at the same time the entire enemy team focuses you because you are the tank. Malphite has nothing to do with what you say anyways because he is played at toplane where, if you hadn't noticed, mostly consists of AD champions and armor kinda synergises with this entire kit, so your point does not stand and if you want to talk about winrates, Ahri, Akali, Annie, Anivia, Aurelion, Cassiopeia and of course Lux, are sitting up there with 50%+ winrate for a long time now without receiving any attention. But of course, it won't take long until this post of mine goes to -10 if not below threshold because every mage main is over here and downvoting anything that talks about their champions being overpowered.
> [{quoted}](name=FSRER,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GuAdjnLO,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-06-17T16:35:47.859+0000) > > Me: _Looks up at Magic penetration items_ > Sees > {{item:3135}} > 70 ability power > +300 Health > +40% magic pen > 2650 gold > > {{item:3165}} > +70 Ability Power > +300 Health > +15 Magic Penetration > +grievious wounds > 3000 gold > > {{item:3020}} > Boots that straight up give magic penetration > > _Meanwhile_ > You get all 3 magic resist items and you die from the enemy mage because he spammed 50 times Q W E within 5 seconds and he is still full mana while staying backline the entire time while at the same time the entire enemy team focuses you because you are the tank. > > Malphite has nothing to do with what you say anyways because he is played at toplane where, if you hadn't noticed, mostly consists of AD champions and armor kinda synergises with this entire kit, so your point does not stand and if you want to talk about winrates, Ahri, Akali, Annie, Anivia, Aurelion, Cassiopeia and of course Lux, are sitting up there with 50%+ winrate for a long time now without receiving any attention. > > But of course, it won't take long until this post of mine goes to -10 if not below threshold because every mage main is over here and downvoting anything that talks about their champions being overpowered. Malphite is meant to counter champion that builds armor, how is a meta in which AD champions are dominant top lane not have a counter to them but ranged champion? Armor tanks used to counter AD champions top, now they are straight up obsolete and useless, because they have that anti-snowball theme to them. That's what made bruisers main piss their pants and thus they added huge amount of shred armor, true damage and ridiculous amount of self sustain, etc. And how they tried to help Armor tanks to deal with that? Make bramble vest cost 1000 and have grievous wound. Buffing damage to every armor tanks instead of ARMOR itself. And look what happened to tanks, TAHM KENCH is broken because of the amount of damage buffs he receive. He literally does more damage than darius at level 3. They gutted his supportive role, Nautilus can't even go top lane anymore and is forced to support, Galio can't go top anymore and is a support now,
FSRER (EUNE)
: And everyone alongside toplane mains, despites those champions and begs riot to nerf them
> [{quoted}](name=FSRER,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GuAdjnLO,comment-id=00040000000000000001,timestamp=2019-06-17T16:37:32.072+0000) > > And everyone alongside toplane mains, despites those champions and begs riot to nerf them Top laners will complain about anything thats ranged and that they have a hard time getting close to.
FSRER (EUNE)
: Me: _Looks up at Magic penetration items_ Sees {{item:3135}} 70 ability power +300 Health +40% magic pen 2650 gold {{item:3165}} +70 Ability Power +300 Health +15 Magic Penetration +grievious wounds 3000 gold {{item:3020}} Boots that straight up give magic penetration _Meanwhile_ You get all 3 magic resist items and you die from the enemy mage because he spammed 50 times Q W E within 5 seconds and he is still full mana while staying backline the entire time while at the same time the entire enemy team focuses you because you are the tank. Malphite has nothing to do with what you say anyways because he is played at toplane where, if you hadn't noticed, mostly consists of AD champions and armor kinda synergises with this entire kit, so your point does not stand and if you want to talk about winrates, Ahri, Akali, Annie, Anivia, Aurelion, Cassiopeia and of course Lux, are sitting up there with 50%+ winrate for a long time now without receiving any attention. But of course, it won't take long until this post of mine goes to -10 if not below threshold because every mage main is over here and downvoting anything that talks about their champions being overpowered.
> [{quoted}](name=FSRER,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GuAdjnLO,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-06-17T16:35:47.859+0000) > > Me: _Looks up at Magic penetration items_ > Sees > {{item:3135}} > 70 ability power > +300 Health > +40% magic pen > 2650 gold > > {{item:3165}} > +70 Ability Power > +300 Health > +15 Magic Penetration > +grievious wounds > 3000 gold > > {{item:3020}} > Boots that straight up give magic penetration > > _Meanwhile_ > You get all 3 magic resist items and you die from the enemy mage because he spammed 50 times Q W E within 5 seconds and he is still full mana while staying backline the entire time while at the same time the entire enemy team focuses you because you are the tank. > > Malphite has nothing to do with what you say anyways because he is played at toplane where, if you hadn't noticed, mostly consists of AD champions and armor kinda synergises with this entire kit, so your point does not stand and if you want to talk about winrates, Ahri, Akali, Annie, Anivia, Aurelion, Cassiopeia and of course Lux, are sitting up there with 50%+ winrate for a long time now without receiving any attention. > > But of course, it won't take long until this post of mine goes to -10 if not below threshold because every mage main is over here and downvoting anything that talks about their champions being overpowered. {{item:3083}} +{{item:3065}} , gets blown up to 70% hp by Syndra full combos, Hold on a minute, *Stands Stills for 5 sec* 100% hp. Bruisers: I think I'm ok now, lets go fight the syndra again. Meanwhile syndra: everything is on cooldown. Another scenario: {{item:3065}} {{item:3091}} {{champion:19}} , try to get me under 90% hp I dare you.
: Karma gauntlet top currently dominating, lux aftershock bot currently dominating WITH morgana, most mages go mid and dominate vs anything no yasuo zed talon. bRuIsErs bROkEN
> [{quoted}](name=FiveAneurysms,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GuAdjnLO,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-06-17T16:05:24.326+0000) > > Karma gauntlet top currently dominating, lux aftershock bot currently dominating WITH morgana, most mages go mid and dominate vs anything no yasuo zed talon. > > bRuIsErs bROkEN HP items, no resistance darius 0/12, catches ashes with E, proceeds to one shot her. Mages needs item to do that, Bruisers don't their own strength is innate meaning that they don't need items to do what they do now.
: Can riot please Nerf Tahm Kench
Riot: yea sure we're going to Nerf Support Tahm.
Moody P (NA)
: I don't think you read my post correctly. Nobody is saying these champions are fine RN, doesn't mean MR is a good stat
> [{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GuAdjnLO,comment-id=00040000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-17T15:54:42.149+0000) > > I don't think you read my post correctly. Nobody is saying these champions are fine RN, doesn't mean MR is a good stat Every MR items that is 2nd tier is cost efficient, because of the amount of additional stats they all gives and extremely strong passives that comes with it. Bruisers mains are super lazy when it comes to finishing their items build, {{item:3077}} {{item:3057}} and they sit on these items for a long time.
Moody P (NA)
: nobody defends these champions, unlike mages
> [{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GuAdjnLO,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2019-06-17T15:35:12.041+0000) > > nobody defends these champions, unlike mages Yea so they can boost themself in rank by spamming it, mages always have to change champions everytime. Meanwhile DURR DURR DURR match history Camille, Camille, Irelia, Camille, Irelia, Irelia.
Moody P (NA)
: Mages: dominant in 3 lanes. Maybe he has a point.
> [{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GuAdjnLO,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-06-17T15:14:33.966+0000) > > Mages: dominant in 3 lanes. Maybe he has a point. Bruiser dominant in 3 lanes too, Top Mid Jungle and maybe ADC times to times. Camille can jungle, go mid, go top same goes to riven.
: I mean, Protobelt is strong while being really cheap so idk. Also he said there should be similar dmg tank items({{item:3068}} {{item:3025}} {{item:3075}}) for mr as well, which sounds reasonable.
> [{quoted}](name=CrazyMonkeyCZ,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GuAdjnLO,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-17T14:04:49.029+0000) > > I mean, Protobelt is strong while being really cheap so idk. > > Also he said there should be similar dmg tank items({{item:3068}} {{item:3025}} {{item:3075}}) for mr as well, which sounds reasonable. Protobelt falls off soo hard late game, its only an early game item.
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Zardo (NA)
: Here's an idea- revert all the nerfs and NERF AFTERSHOCK FOR RANGED CHAMPIONS
> [{quoted}](name=Zardo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1lXmMcGJ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-17T12:56:04.700+0000) > > Here's an idea- revert all the nerfs and NERF AFTERSHOCK FOR RANGED CHAMPIONS It is already nerfed for everyone, literally aftershock doesn't make you do more damage it makes you tanky for 2.5sec on a 35sec duration thats all it does. Every single other runes is all about DMG, DMG, DMG. Lethal Tempo = more damage Conqueror = more damage and healing Press the attack = more damage Arcane Comet = more damage Aery = more damage and shielding and healing etc. LEAVE AFTERSHOCK ALONE
: What role carries the hardest in low elo?
Bruisers is the role that carry the hardest, because you can fight everyone and the fact that they don't know how to deal with one is hilarious. They will go 1 by 1 vs a bruisers.
: Do you think Pyke's 80 percent heal is a bit much?
Well, he can't build health. Question answered, to make up for not being able to build health he needs to have some sort of hp regen.
Jamaree (NA)
: Everyone and their mother was complaining about Tahm is why(personally didn’t see it, but maybe mains counter him so that is probably why.)
> [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GyGANwEU,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-13T00:38:56.588+0000) > > Everyone and their mother was complaining about Tahm is why(personally didn’t see it, but maybe mains counter him so that is probably why.) Tahm Support is horrid, thats his primary role its the lowest winrate support. His off role top laner is doing much better than his support. Riot is only nerfing Tahm support and not nerfing tahm top.
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