Rhojin (NA)
: Even using the word in anger, you were using it to verbally attack another player in your game. I wasn't only focusing on just the use of one word, what was more concerning to me was the way you were going after players because they were doing well. You harassed them, insinuated they were cheating because of how well they were playing and even threatened them with reports. Given the whole of the behavior in your game justifies the punishment on your account. Now in regards to nothing happening to the player you reported, you do not know that. If they were doing nothing wrong, then of course nothing will happen to them. But if they were breaking the rules in one way or another, they will see their own sort of punishment issued to their account.
So what happens when I was right and he was cheating? Then me saying that guys is cheating and calling him out is still a bad thing? Why cant i just be permanently banned from speaking to other people or having them speak to me, why can this not be a thing? I think everyone would be happier here if it was. I could no longer call cheaters cheaters and say hateful things to people, but i could still enjoy the account i put hundreds of dollars into.
AraMoOse (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=th3sidekick,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EafH9Ipx,comment-id=00040001,timestamp=2016-03-28T23:49:58.047+0000) > > I understand that. But the simple word %%%got is not hate speech. It is an English word. I used the word in a way to express anger, hot hatred. The only infractions i have ever had on this account are all related to me being angry. I did report that guy. But nothing will happen. The tribunal only attack those who are viewed as being hateful, which i was not being. I was being stupid and stubborn, but not hateful. In fact the only thing people say about that entire game long conversation is the only hateful speech i used was one word. I do not agree that i should be permanently banned. I would happily take a permanent chat restriction. Or have it to where other people cannot see what i type? That would also help on the toxicity that i was facing in those two games. Please stop treating everyone here like idiots. Directing that word at a person does 2 things 1. It is intended as an attack on THAT individual. No one here has any doubts that your intent in using this word was to attack the person you directed those words at. 2. It indirectly constitutes an attack on the entirety of the homosexual population by implying that it is a bad thing to be a homosexual. You are not a moron and thus were already aware of this. Whether or not it was a slip in the spur of the moment (and your previous records indicate it isn't), this ban the community's way of saying 'we just don't want to play with people who behave like this". My final point is to highlight the fact that you are threatening to stop playing as a result of your permanent ban. Do you not understand that is the point? If this is how you are going to play, then Riot (and myself), would be VERY happy to see you take your business elsewhere. Go piss in someone else's pool
Using a word in reply to what he said does not constitute an Attack on an individual. It means i was frustrated. Im not attacking a population. I didnt say I WANT TO KILL ALL THE GAYS!!!! no i said "you %%%got". thats all. Secondly im just frustrated because instead of understanding what im saying, everyone on here is attacking me for using ONE ENGLISH WORD they dont like, and so now its okay to be hurtful to a person because it seems right. So its perfectly acceptable for you to verbally abuse me, however its not okay for me to say one thing that people are taking to mean something IT DOESNT EVEN MEAN!!! %%%got doesnt mean homosexual...
: Actually it is for one. Secondly you brought politics into it, and that is a far worse offense.
Actually it isnt. The word %%%got is not hate speech. I did not degrade anyone's sexuality or sexual preference. Secondly if politics is a worse offense than that, i dont understand why half the community isnt banned with the hatred towards other political candidates.
: > I was off having an off game, that coupled with the other players who didn't get punished and after two games I'm permanently banned from League of Legends? You have been given 2x 10-game chat restrictions, 2x 25-game chat restrictions, and a 14-day ban (which warned you the next would be a perma) before this. Not to mention the numerous penalties prior to the implementation of the escalation system. > This is unfair. If the above points were not enough, your chat log from game 1 contains hate speech. We have stated many times that we have a zero tolerance policy for hate speech. Behavior like this is not tolerated in the League of Legends community.
And you say behavior like this isnt tolerated yet i experience it in every single game. Literally every single game i have played i have experienced language abuse. If this is something you guys dont tolerate, why dont you eliminate it. Stop banning peoples ability to play, and ban their ability to talk. makes so much more sense.
: > I was off having an off game, that coupled with the other players who didn't get punished and after two games I'm permanently banned from League of Legends? You have been given 2x 10-game chat restrictions, 2x 25-game chat restrictions, and a 14-day ban (which warned you the next would be a perma) before this. Not to mention the numerous penalties prior to the implementation of the escalation system. > This is unfair. If the above points were not enough, your chat log from game 1 contains hate speech. We have stated many times that we have a zero tolerance policy for hate speech. Behavior like this is not tolerated in the League of Legends community.
Its not hate speech.
Rhojin (NA)
: You were verbally abusing, harassing and using hate speech towards players in your game because they were doing well. Doing well in a game is not trolling, cheating or against the rules. If you feel that someone may be breaking the rules you have the option to submit a report, attacking them only risks your account receiving a punishment. Looking into your account you have previously received multiple chat restrictions and a two week suspension for your continued negative behavior in games.
I understand that. But the simple word %%%got is not hate speech. It is an English word. I used the word in a way to express anger, hot hatred. The only infractions i have ever had on this account are all related to me being angry. I did report that guy. But nothing will happen. The tribunal only attack those who are viewed as being hateful, which i was not being. I was being stupid and stubborn, but not hateful. In fact the only thing people say about that entire game long conversation is the only hateful speech i used was one word. I do not agree that i should be permanently banned. I would happily take a permanent chat restriction. Or have it to where other people cannot see what i type? That would also help on the toxicity that i was facing in those two games.
: > [{quoted}](name=th3sidekick,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EafH9Ipx,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2016-03-28T23:29:28.105+0000) > > I have played so many games since then. I figured it would de-escalate. and allow me to vent some of the rage. You dont even see what my team was saying to me. Thats the worst part. I lost control of my anger when our ori started feeding You don't vent your rage by plowing forward and continuing to play. You're just asking yourself to get even angrier by doing that. I did the same exact thing, and I ended up receiving the same punishment as you have. Now that it's happened, I strongly advise you take a bit of time to think about whether it was worth it or not, and what have you learned from all this. The answer may not come right away, but when it does, you'll likely feel better about yourself.
Im seriously thinking about leaving league and trying to find legal recourse to get money back. If i invested this much into it and its the community judging on what is hate speech and what isnt. Ive got some lawyer buddies who are looking at this right now. This is so frustrating. There is no clear Hate speech, on the use of the word %%%got. People just brand you as being hateful because they dont like that word. If this word is considered hateful you shouldn't be allowed to type it in the first place, period. The only other reason i can think is that they are ok with certain types of people using the word but not others.
alasarcher (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=th3sidekick,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EafH9Ipx,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-03-28T23:23:46.421+0000) > > How is this hate speech???? Are you serious? You used worst homophobic slur. th3sidekick: you %%%got Have u any idea how many people have suffered abuse and this name calling cause of their sexual preference? Saying this is equal to calling black person a N word. Wishing another holocaust to jewish people. Or telling women that they belong in kitchen. That word is one of worst words u can use anywhere. In civilized countries people have been losing jobs cause of hate speech and usage of such slurs.
Wait, me using the word %%%got, is the same as telling a Jew to go to the holocaust? even though i didnt mention anything at all about hatred towards the gay population? You sir/ma'am are overly sensitive to English words. This is not HATE SPEECH!!
: > [{quoted}](name=th3sidekick,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EafH9Ipx,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-03-28T23:25:36.928+0000) > > Who the hell says that was homosexual? a %%%got means a lot of things. It doesn mean i hate gay people. I have many gay friends. This is another point. Delusional, in denial, permaban well deserved.
serene am i hurting your feelings? why do you keep personally attacking me, I feel offended just as much as the use of the word %%%got. How do i request a 14 chat ban on this for you?
alasarcher (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=th3sidekick,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EafH9Ipx,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-03-28T23:25:36.928+0000) > > Who the hell says that was homosexual? a %%%got means a lot of things. It doesn mean i hate gay people. I have many gay friends. This is another point. Have u actually considered that person u said it to is actually homosexual, and that he suffered bullying, abuse and even physical attacks and was called that word many times in his life? Or some other person in that game? U know how much it could hurt someone to see someone using that word in game where he came to have fun and relax?
he didnt come to have fun and relax, he was int feeding at 0/7 at 5 min..
: How you perceive and intend it is irrelevant; it's how everyone else does. If the general population sees it as offensive then you should expect that people don't agree with your use of it, even if you explain it to them. The League community is largely against this type of behavior. http://41.media.tumblr.com/9e09c443f5588af41a40256b9a800bef/tumblr_nngyufgvGN1snexhzo1_1280.jpg
You do know that that guy says REDACTED a lot. He is the sole reason i still use the word like its meant to be. Good use of that meme though.
: RIP. It's a shame you didn't post here when you got your 2 week ban. We would've told you how close to getting perma'd you were.
I have played so many games since then. I figured it would de-escalate. and allow me to vent some of the rage. You dont even see what my team was saying to me. Thats the worst part. I lost control of my anger when our ori started feeding
: Where's game 3?
never had it. i was banned from 2
: > th3sidekick: you %%%got Homosexual slurs are hate speech.
Who the hell says that was homosexual? a %%%got means a lot of things. It doesn mean i hate gay people. I have many gay friends. This is another point.
alasarcher (EUNE)
: Hate speech is serious offense. Yes this is worth perma ban.
How is this hate speech????
: With his use of hate speech, it's possible he didn't go through all the punishment tiers first.
How is this hate speech?
: Sorry man. Permabans are not the first punishment you get. Maybe you should have stopped using chat at the 14 day ban. EDIT: Also this: > Another thing is the fact my ability to play this game is solely left in the hands of the Trolls that caused me to rage in the first place is unacceptable. You're letting other people control your emotions. They are not forcefully doing so, you are letting them. I highly suggest you work on that.
thats the whole point. i got a 14 day restriction and played like 30 games then i played these two and got permabanned.
: I feel bad for the unfortunate souls that had to play with you. Good riddance.
What are you talking about?
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