: Why are Ahri and Nami getting nerfed but not Graves/Lucian/Jhin/Kassadin/Jax etc.?
Graves is op, but they shouldn't overnerf him. He deserves nerfs outside of dark harvest getting nerfed, but I hope they don't ruin him. The real problem is DARK HARVEST, which is why all of the top junglers are running it. Kass has been constantly buffed over the past year. Jhin and Lucian they shouldn't change just yet, botlane needs some time to settle ever since ADCs were pushed out. Lastly, Jax runs conqueror which is another problem rune considering all top laners except Sion run it. Right now, the major problems they should be working on fixing are dark havest and conqueror and then they should work on balancing the game from there.
: {{champion:27}}
> [{quoted}](name=BobTickleman,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kTw2xNTv,comment-id=0013,timestamp=2018-10-01T20:40:28.615+0000) > > I think Cassopeia, just because of she is in the ask riot > https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-au/2018/08/victorious-skins-more/ I looked and couldn't find any mention of her. > [{quoted}](name=ForFoxSakes,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kTw2xNTv,comment-id=0014,timestamp=2018-10-01T20:43:00.306+0000) > > Watch it be something totally nonsensical though which is usually in line with RITO > Something like {{champion:37}}. Ultimate skin, Odyssey, tons of other skins, Victorious too? Sure why not > > or a champ most people barely ever play or even consider like {{champion:41}}{{champion:96}} {{champion:27}} {{champion:68}} {{champion:127}} Well, I'm not sure any of these champions would get a Victorious skin because of Riot's criteria. Champions like Gangplank, Kog'Maw, Singed, Rumble, and Lissandra haven't made in impact on this season but they could have their time next season. > [{quoted}](name=Karakot,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kTw2xNTv,comment-id=0015,timestamp=2018-10-01T20:49:21.624+0000) > > {{champion:36}} Has been oppressive all year, in solo queue and in pro play alike. I wouldn’t be surprised if its him Me neither, he's was pretty oppressive! :3 > [{quoted}](name=Linna Excel,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kTw2xNTv,comment-id=0016,timestamp=2018-10-01T20:55:22.410+0000) > > Maybe riot is doing Ultimate Victorious Draven, a 3150RP skin that only gold and above players can get. I wouldn't be surprised after the whole "claim tickets" thing. > [{quoted}](name=Bae4Jibril,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kTw2xNTv,comment-id=0017,timestamp=2018-10-01T21:07:04.665+0000) > > {{champion:27}} uwu > [{quoted}](name=Actual Trash,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kTw2xNTv,comment-id=0018,timestamp=2018-10-01T22:56:36.884+0000) > > Orianna still deserves the one Graves took from her last year smh > > > Or Syndra Yeah hahhaah last year Orianna was so good! Syndra has been pretty good too :3
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: > [{quoted}](name=très mal,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kTw2xNTv,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-10-01T17:24:12.133+0000) > > Vayne would be nice, I wish I could play her. Jax would also be super cool, he needs skins and fits criteria but I'm not sure he made much impact this season. ALSO that is something I considered, because the pattern for both this and the role selection are both true for the existing Victorious skins. If you swap the criteria, Tristana and Corki get marked off and Warwick, Vi, and Master Yi become viable options. None of those 5 champions were too impactful this season in my opinion so it doesn't change too much :3. > > I think I messed up here, Swain did not receive a skin in the Spring, or after, and has been very impactful this season. Very good candidate! > > Jax would be a super cool one, I'd love that since I play Jax in the jungle! So much fun! > > Yeah, and brand has always made in impact at least in the lower ranks. Could be a very cool skin! > > Very true, this alongside Swain's skin being released previous to Spring make Swain and Miss Fortune very viable champions for the victorious skins. The criteria I used for very few skins was 5 skins or under, this is pretty high but I just wanted to be sure. > > I would love to see a skin for any of these champions! I ruled out Irelia since she recently received the awesome Divine Sword skin, however Swain and Taliyah are great choices. Swain would be my guess out of your three since I messed up above and he has not received a recent skin and Taliyah has been played in the jungle most of the season. > > I agree, Marksmen could probably be excluded, which means Tristana and Corki are no longer candidates. Mundo might be a valid pick since he was overplayed this season and did have a lot of solo queue play as well as the huge impact on the lcs. Fiddle was also flavor of the month so that could be valid too, he is played support now so that would be pretty cool. > > He has been pretty strong this season, but in my opinion Jax is always in meta. If it is a Jax skin though, I'm going to probably get excited since he is one of my favorite champions to play jungle. > > Me, an ex Anivia player: Yes, Anivia please uwu > > I've seen a lot of Swain votes, and I think you all have the right idea. I messed up too, he didn't even received a new skin in Spring. He is a huge candidate for this season! > > Mundo would be very cool, and was very impactful in competitive and solo queue this season so I could see him being picked. I would agree with Kai'Sa because of her impact but I think she has too little skins to fit the criteria unfortunately. In one or two years though I could see her getting it, she's super popular and is a candidate for most skin lines. > > Thank you all for the awesome responses :3 But Jax got God Staff Jax this year. :I
> [{quoted}](name=Sweet Tennessee,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kTw2xNTv,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2018-10-01T17:39:38.156+0000) > > Neither Sion or Jhin have a small number of skins though, and both been highly impactful for the year. They both have 5 or less, which is the criteria I used. > [{quoted}](name=Jeddite,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kTw2xNTv,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2018-10-01T17:40:06.073+0000) > > It's gonna be Zoe. > > /wretch > /woodchipper Oh god no hahaha > [{quoted}](name=ForFoxSakes,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kTw2xNTv,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2018-10-01T17:57:45.564+0000) > > https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/gnIXKRYd-that-victorious-time-again > I think {{champion:50}} {{champion:7}} {{champion:91}} I think it's going to be Swain, LeBlanc has 5 skins or less which is why I doubt she'd get the skin. Although, she very well could. They never said how many skins was "many skins". > [{quoted}](name=Top Deck,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kTw2xNTv,comment-id=000f,timestamp=2018-10-01T18:20:12.029+0000) > > Sion ez, even though i hate him Maybe, he has a pretty low amount of existing skins though. > [{quoted}](name=The Dreamwalker,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kTw2xNTv,comment-id=0010,timestamp=2018-10-01T18:32:50.717+0000) > > My money is actually on {{champion:114}} or {{champion:24}}. (Even though I would love to be biased and say {{champion:21}}). Both of those would be great, however I don't personally feel like Fiora has had a massive impact on this season. Jax however, has been relevant this season, but he is every season so it's kind of a toss-up for him. > [{quoted}](name=Cheini,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kTw2xNTv,comment-id=0011,timestamp=2018-10-01T19:12:33.040+0000) > > i would guess {{champion:163}} or {{champion:142}}.. however it just doesn't feel right with their charas so probably Swain orrr maybe Jax idk I agree, Swain and Jax are two very likely candidates. Taliyah and Zoe however, don't really have too much of a chance even though they'd be pretty cool. > [{quoted}](name=Noor Sakata,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kTw2xNTv,comment-id=0012,timestamp=2018-10-01T19:36:31.846+0000) > > Tbh it feels like it wil be for Fiora or Kassadin , but Swain plz ! > + Aren't Ahri and Nidalee got Challenger ? Challenger isn't Victorious, Championship, or Conqueror On this Riot [thread](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752944-Guide-to-Legacy-and-Limited-Skins#h3q4) Challenger and Conqueror are listed under the same category. So I counted the Challenger skins the same as I would Conqueror. > [{quoted}](name=Vlada Cut,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kTw2xNTv,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-01T19:57:55.353+0000) > > But Jax got God Staff Jax this year. :I God Staff Jax came out January 11th, before spring. So it fit under the criteria I used, and under that criteria is a viable pick for the victorious skin.
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: i could see it being vayne or jax :o i considered nocturne but you ruled that out :< i thought role meant like marksman assasin etc XD
> [{quoted}](name=l MrD l,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kTw2xNTv,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-10-01T09:19:15.023+0000) > > i could see it being vayne or jax :o i considered nocturne but you ruled that out :&lt; i thought role meant like marksman assasin etc XD Vayne would be nice, I wish I could play her. Jax would also be super cool, he needs skins and fits criteria but I'm not sure he made much impact this season. ALSO that is something I considered, because the pattern for both this and the role selection are both true for the existing Victorious skins. If you swap the criteria, Tristana and Corki get marked off and Warwick, Vi, and Master Yi become viable options. None of those 5 champions were too impactful this season in my opinion so it doesn't change too much :3. > [{quoted}](name=AmazoX,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kTw2xNTv,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-10-01T10:05:41.380+0000) > > Probably {{champion:50}} I think I messed up here, Swain did not receive a skin in the Spring, or after, and has been very impactful this season. Very good candidate! > [{quoted}](name=Dark Royalty,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kTw2xNTv,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-10-01T11:29:33.228+0000) > > Jax pls Jax would be a super cool one, I'd love that since I play Jax in the jungle! So much fun! > [{quoted}](name=Mythmaster28,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kTw2xNTv,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-10-01T13:29:21.766+0000) > > Brand would be very nice!!!{{champion:63}} Yeah, and brand has always made in impact at least in the lower ranks. Could be a very cool skin! > [{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kTw2xNTv,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-10-01T13:52:12.225+0000) > > MF (I believe) is still a valid candidate since her most recent skin, Gun Goddess, was released March 22nd. And, despite the many changes around Marksmen this year, she&#x27;s remained relevant throughout the season so far. > > The only other champion out of that list that made a significant impact is Jax. > > Also, what criteria did you use for &quot;very few skins&quot;? Was it Classic +2 or Classic +3? You also need to take into account that team skins do not count towards the normal skin count. So Jhin&#x27;s team skin would not count in his total giving him Classic +3. Very true, this alongside Swain's skin being released previous to Spring make Swain and Miss Fortune very viable champions for the victorious skins. The criteria I used for very few skins was 5 skins or under, this is pretty high but I just wanted to be sure. > [{quoted}](name=Keystone Cowboyz,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kTw2xNTv,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-10-01T13:55:10.875+0000) > > yeah the criteria you set are right. In particular cant be the same role or have one, and imo biggest is had to have an impact this season. > > My opinion is that it will be a mid lane champion this year. > > My bets even though some of these champs got a skin this year > > {{champion:39}} {{champion:50}} {{champion:163}} I would love to see a skin for any of these champions! I ruled out Irelia since she recently received the awesome Divine Sword skin, however Swain and Taliyah are great choices. Swain would be my guess out of your three since I messed up above and he has not received a recent skin and Taliyah has been played in the jungle most of the season. > [{quoted}](name=Alzon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kTw2xNTv,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-10-01T14:31:24.938+0000) > > Could probably exclude all ADCs too, since Ashe and Varus received the last Championship and Conqueror skins. Plus Graves was kinda meant to be a marksman, and he got the last Victorious skin. Other than that, idk what was super popular back then. I know Fiddlesticks was FOTM and Mundo was overplayed in pro, but that’s about it. I agree, Marksmen could probably be excluded, which means Tristana and Corki are no longer candidates. Mundo might be a valid pick since he was overplayed this season and did have a lot of solo queue play as well as the huge impact on the lcs. Fiddle was also flavor of the month so that could be valid too, he is played support now so that would be pretty cool. > [{quoted}](name=Kimchi870,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kTw2xNTv,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2018-10-01T14:33:58.946+0000) > > Yes, {{champion:24}} is a very viable contender, seeing how strong he has been this season He has been pretty strong this season, but in my opinion Jax is always in meta. If it is a Jax skin though, I'm going to probably get excited since he is one of my favorite champions to play jungle. > [{quoted}](name=XxDRAGONsAK47xX,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kTw2xNTv,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2018-10-01T14:44:33.529+0000) > > Anivia pls uwu Me, an ex Anivia player: Yes, Anivia please uwu > [{quoted}](name=Scuttle,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kTw2xNTv,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2018-10-01T16:15:41.365+0000) > > nah. Meowkai came out the same year as Victorious, in April. Anything that got a skin before April is fair game > > #SWAIN I've seen a lot of Swain votes, and I think you all have the right idea. I messed up too, he didn't even received a new skin in Spring. He is a huge candidate for this season! > [{quoted}](name=Jenks3,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kTw2xNTv,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2018-10-01T17:09:50.161+0000) > > My guesses are {{champion:36}} or {{champion:145}} . Mundo would be very cool, and was very impactful in competitive and solo queue this season so I could see him being picked. I would agree with Kai'Sa because of her impact but I think she has too little skins to fit the criteria unfortunately. In one or two years though I could see her getting it, she's super popular and is a candidate for most skin lines. Thank you all for the awesome responses :3
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