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TrulyBland (EUNE)
: I like how you swing around numbers like "10 years" and "7 years" as a way to make it seem like your infractions are **way** further in the past than they really are, as anybody who is willing to check your previous discussion is able to check. Infractions do get wiped if you have played enough games and enough time has passed. You simply did not meet the requirements yet. As a little sidenote: I very much love the title of this thread compared to the one of your 14-day ban.
> [{quoted}](name=TrulyBland,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=04Y3ARyk,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2018-10-27T16:06:32.521+0000) > > I like how you swing around numbers like "10 years" and "7 years" as a way to make it seem like your infractions are **way** further in the past than they really are, as anybody who is willing to check your previous discussion is able to check. > > Infractions do get wiped if you have played enough games and enough time has passed. You simply did not meet the requirements yet. > > As a little sidenote: I very much love the title of this thread compared to the one of your 14-day ban. youre putting words in my mouth, i have old infractions and new ones. but they are far flung, OVER that time period. im sure you can understand what im saying, but your purpose here is to be argumentative. but whatever, if you need to believe that i received 20 infractions in 10 days or something crazy like that then just go for it, sleep well
: > and over 10 years you havent reduced the amount of infractions against my account? pathetic. > even the law wipes them after 7 years. You were punished for relatively recent behavior, not what you said or did 10 years ago. And for what it's worth, your infractions were wiped clean about 4 years ago when they updated the punishment system. > it is impossible not to get into an altercation in this game unless you are willing to roll over like a snake and crawl on your belly to allow some random bad player to win a random argument. It's impossible to get banned if you have any self control. You can respond in ways that aren't punishable, you decided not to.
> [{quoted}](name=DrCyanide,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=04Y3ARyk,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2018-10-27T12:00:47.663+0000) > > You were punished for relatively recent behavior, not what you said or did 10 years ago. And for what it's worth, your infractions were wiped clean about 4 years ago when they updated the punishment system. > > It's impossible to get banned if you have any self control. You can respond in ways that aren't punishable, you decided not to. that is simply untrue, infractions accumulate. i didnt go on some insane tirade, i had very mundane reports like everyone else. and over a period of time they just never left my record. the period of time it took to gather that many wasnt factored in. that is the problem they stacked up over time, never being mitigated. finally you will accumulate enough to be perm banned.
: I think Rito should be banning people for swearing in the chat. After all the is a goddamn mute button yet there isnt a kick button in the game. And perma banning people who are actually putting money into your game is just stupid. Just do like overwatch and put mute bans on them so they cant use chat and it will be all good...
> [{quoted}](name=THE1IKARKILLER,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=sjQEl1dZ,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2018-10-25T15:49:33.249+0000) > > I think Rito should be banning people for swearing in the chat. After all the is a goddamn mute button yet there isnt a kick button in the game. And perma banning people who are actually putting money into your game is just stupid. Just do like overwatch and put mute bans on them so they cant use chat and it will be all good... the problem is that every silly infraction you incur is stored and held against you long term. 10 years of pointless reports got me banned. it didnt have to be anything big. the report button has been weaponized and its wrong
: i regret every dollar i ever spent with this company
seems to me this argument is between people whove been reported and losers who lose the argument riot has allowed the report button to be weaponized
: Being a frequent customer doesn't mean you have the privilege to make an ass of yourself. Then again, posting logs can make me the one to look like an ass.
> [{quoted}](name=Baron Barian,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=04Y3ARyk,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-10-27T03:03:41.825+0000) > > Being a frequent customer doesn't mean you have the privilege to make an ass of yourself. > > > Then again, posting logs can make me the one to look like an ass. that that implies that these stupid infractions from stupid people are legitimate, they aremt, and neither are their sensitive feelings. the entire system is busted
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TrulyBland (EUNE)
: If you consider elementary logic - a mathematical field that is prior and a requirement to every scientific field - "word vomit" there is absolutely no point in continuing to talk to you. If you refuse to apply logic to your arguments, your arguments are literally worthless in any kind of a discussion. Read those links I sent you. Inform yourself. There's really no excuse for being this ignorant when you have all that information just the press of a button away.
> [{quoted}](name=TrulyBland,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=zTyuRETc,comment-id=0002000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-05T21:05:49.448+0000) > > If you consider elementary logic - a mathematical field that is prior and a requirement to every scientific field - "word vomit" there is absolutely no point in continuing to talk to you. > If you refuse to apply logic to your arguments, your arguments are literally worthless in any kind of a discussion. > > Read those links I sent you. Inform yourself. There's really no excuse for being this ignorant when you have all that information just the press of a button away. lol "you dont hold my opinion therefore you cannot reason" ive made myself clear, you have refused to argue on face value. so ill have to just stop expecting you to.
TrulyBland (EUNE)
: I'm not talking about how it reads. Those statements are literally logically equivalent. On a mathematical level. If one of them holds true the other one is necessarily also true. A --> B and !B --> !A both describe the exact same logical relation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contraposition Edit: Interestingly enough what **you** read into it is actually **not** logically equivalent to your first statement. In fact it's the common logical fallacy of denying the antecedent. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denying_the_antecedent
> [{quoted}](name=TrulyBland,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=zTyuRETc,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-01T08:25:40.483+0000) > > I'm not talking about how it reads. Those statements are literally logically equivalent. On a mathematical level. If one of them holds true the other one is necessarily also true. > > A --> B > and > !B --> !A > > both describe the exact same logical relation. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contraposition > > Edit: Interestingly enough what **you** read into it is actually **not** logically equivalent to your first statement. In fact it's the common logical fallacy of denying the antecedent. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denying_the_antecedent been taking a gymnastics class i see.....well unfortunately i have no interest in word vomit it boils down to this, your poor performance impacts your team far more negatively than their text messages impact you. you will acknowledge this reality or this problem will never be solved.
TrulyBland (EUNE)
: >calm seas make poor sailors. Yes. Seas. The sea being the challenge/problems that arise. LoL's challenge is not really meant to be a social one. >"toughen up, when you play well you will be treated well" Which is logically equivalent to the statement "if you are treated badly, you're a bad player". Apart from being straight up untrue, this is essentially blaming somebody for how **others** treat them.
> [{quoted}](name=TrulyBland,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=zTyuRETc,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2018-09-23T23:50:06.605+0000) > > Yes. Seas. The sea being the challenge/problems that arise. LoL's challenge is not really meant to be a social one. > > Which is logically equivalent to the statement "if you are treated badly, you're a bad player". Apart from being straight up untrue, this is essentially blaming somebody for how **others** treat them. no that isnt the logical equivalent, it would read more like " if you are a bad player you will be treated badly" the modern dogma of the day dictates what you just sdaid "never say anything not nice everr" it is impossible
: Do you have a different suggestion that informs players what to do when another player is toxic?
> [{quoted}](name=Periscope,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=zTyuRETc,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-09-17T06:47:23.956+0000) > > Do you have a different suggestion that informs players what to do when another player is toxic? yes....yes i do. calm seas make poor sailors. allow them to have a bad experience, or at least let them have AN experience so they then have the ability to differentiate those experiences that are actually bad. a person who does not speak or play the way you personally want them too is enough to make you uncomfortable but promoting that as a bannable offense is in and of itself....toxic. honestly i'd just like to see a tip that read "toughen up, when you play well you will be treated well"
: If we're doing insane levels of slippery slope, let's turn it around. Do we really need legions of player who aren't responsible for their own actions? What sort of human beings would this mentality foster?
> [{quoted}](name=Silent Gravity,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=zTyuRETc,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-09-17T03:19:25.329+0000) > > If we're doing insane levels of slippery slope, let's turn it around. > > Do we really need legions of player who aren't responsible for their own actions? What sort of human beings would this mentality foster? no was capable to ensuring your "comfort". thats up to you
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Pika Fox (NA)
: Lol yeah no. Either you got the other 2 recently or you left so.ething out, as LoL punishment tiers do decay over time.
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Thkw3HVE,comment-id=000200000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-05-30T13:27:23.540+0000) > > Lol yeah no. Either you got the other 2 recently or you left so.ething out, as LoL punishment tiers do decay over time. so basically you live your life based on guessed and conjecture.....good luck with that garbage
: @riot Low honor depression
ultimately you should report for griefing and leavers. you know....actual gameplay infractions. crying over text is stupid and should be frowned apon.
Pika Fox (NA)
: Given its a 14 day, either this is your third offense and you have no excuse, or you conveniently left something out.
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Thkw3HVE,comment-id=0002000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-05-29T13:44:11.136+0000) > > Given its a 14 day, either this is your third offense and you have no excuse, or you conveniently left something out. 3rd offense in 9 years???? even a real record gets cleaned after 7. regardless, you cant sneeze the wrong way without getting into an argument in this game. this system just punishes people who stay around very long. and i left nothing out, thats wishful thinking on your part
Pika Fox (NA)
: No, you apparently have a recent streak of being toxic. How long youve played is irrelevant. You could have lived 80 years, but its not like youre going to be called a "mellow individual" for committing a crime in your 80s.
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Thkw3HVE,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2018-05-29T00:01:58.728+0000) > > No, you apparently have a recent streak of being toxic. How long youve played is irrelevant. You could have lived 80 years, but its not like youre going to be called a "mellow individual" for committing a crime in your 80s. the game log I pasted was the entire evidence against me that i was provided. assuming anything on top of that is nothing more than conjecture. and calling what i did "crime" is like getting in trouble for not being happy when someone throws a pie in your face, or cuts your tires.
Pika Fox (NA)
: Ban wasnt wrongful. You were being a dick to other players, therefore you were punished, and if it was a ban you have done this repeatedly. Given youve probably ruined 50-100 games, i dont think you have any room to argue that it isnt deserved.
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Thkw3HVE,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2018-05-28T23:06:11.529+0000) > > Ban wasnt wrongful. You were being a dick to other players, therefore you were punished, and if it was a ban you have done this repeatedly. Given youve probably ruined 50-100 games, i dont think you have any room to argue that it isnt deserved. pretending there is one person in this or any other situation would be your error. But judging by the tone of your post you came at this from an angry emotional state. Which is the real problem in the end, its too easy to solve your problems with a report button. It washes away your fault in the situation. and ive played thousands and thousands of games since 2009. So it takes almost 10 years to accumulate enough reports to get a 2 week ban? sounds like a pretty mellow tempered individual if you ask me.
Pika Fox (NA)
: You regret nothing, and im sure riot doesnt regret the ban. Neither would i.
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Thkw3HVE,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-05-28T06:42:19.715+0000) > > You regret nothing, and im sure riot doesnt regret the ban. Neither would i. ofcourse you wouldn't, because the section players who wish to wrongfully ban players "who were mean to them" are far more vindictive that those who openly tell you that you play poorly. at no point will this be productive or helpful. riot has to take this beat stick away from its lowest common denominator of players.
: The cost of poor performance is and should only ever be losing more games than average. That is it. As you can see, Riot is not going to indulge in your desire to insult other players for whatever reason.
> [{quoted}](name=AeroWaffle,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Thkw3HVE,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2018-05-28T04:04:05.188+0000) > > The cost of poor performance is and should only ever be losing more games than average. > > That is it. > > As you can see, Riot is not going to indulge in your desire to insult other players for whatever reason. nope they wont, they didnt make this decision. if they had it would never have happened. but there is nothing wrong with criticism, indeed it is needed. i didnt insult anyone until all other attempts at communication failed, since that is obvious form the log and you refused to acknowledge it i have to assume it was intentional. no person on this earth is comprised entirely of good will, it is finite. implying otherwise is disingenuous. and apply behavioral policy around it is futile. my goal here is not to lift my ban, its to open the eyes of the willfully ignorant, or those who(like you i suspect) derive some catharsis pleasure from telling other people how your emotions should dictate their lives. its time for the system to evolve, its as outdated as the sjw ideology that spawned it
: People are not obligated to follow your advice in the game. If they were rude about it that's its own problem but they have control over their character, not you.
> [{quoted}](name=AeroWaffle,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Thkw3HVE,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-05-28T02:26:55.489+0000) > > People are not obligated to follow your advice in the game. If they were rude about it that's its own problem but they have control over their character, not you. so basically "they can be horrible in multiple ways and you better like" yea...no thats unacceptable. it is neither healthy not helpful to reward poor performance, and i will not indulge in it. "i dont care who started" is an inaccurate position to take and harmful to the wronged parties. and frankly if you can't see that then you are part of the problem
: Mute, report after the game and move on. Retaliating will always be your fault, no matter how much they provoked you.
> [{quoted}](name=DerMangoJoghurt,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=pzgTK3Pq,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-05-27T13:43:56.950+0000) > > Mute, report after the game and move on. > Retaliating will always be your fault, no matter how much they provoked you. you just described the problem, not the solution
: You didn't defend yourself, you retaliated. But since you regret nothing I guess there's no problem. Just keep in mind the 14-day ban is usually the last chance for you account. The next punishment might be a permanent ban.
> [{quoted}](name=AeroWaffle,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Thkw3HVE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-05-28T00:18:02.771+0000) > > You didn't defend yourself, you retaliated. > > But since you regret nothing I guess there's no problem. Just keep in mind the 14-day ban is usually the last chance for you account. The next punishment might be a permanent ban. please hold the wordplay....my actions were obviously reactionary and this entire point of view leaves out the fact that you can't be nice to people in this game it simply doesnt work, i asked him multiple times in as reasonable manner as i could to adjust his gameplay....he refused and continued to back talk I'm not the problem here, an neither are many others who fall victim to the passive aggressive use of a report button.
: Yep. Or just outright remove the chat like they did with the in-client public chat all those years ago. As we can now ping pretty much everything, and jungle timers are available to everyone, there's no longer a need for it. We can make friends when games are over.
> [{quoted}](name=Declovone,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ruZpTPyg,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2018-05-27T23:09:51.481+0000) > > Yep. Or just outright remove the chat like they did with the in-client public chat all those years ago. As we can now ping pretty much everything, and jungle timers are available to everyone, there's no longer a need for it. > > We can make friends when games are over. i wouldnt be against that at all
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POMA (EUW)
: Can riots make asking for reports while game is still going a bannable offense?
maybe its time to stop allowing a report button to be used as a weapon. ban leavers and griefers and just leave it at that. the mute button is there for a reason, use it
zoe sucks (EUW)
: Perm ban
seems to me you get punished for winning an argument, regardless of the cause. kind of like punishing a person for getting cancer ultimately you make these decisions in a vacuum against 1 person, when there are multiple of people involved most of the time. thats not just wrong....its incorrect
: i think thats your computer's fault not riot's..it's not like they come into your pc and mess it up with viruses and stuff to make sure that it doesn't run for your computer and works for mostly everyone else's.
> [{quoted}](name=ChromaSpell,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=nQw38JR2,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-12-03T05:15:02.532+0000) > > i think thats your computer's fault not riot's..it's not like they come into your pc and mess it up with viruses and stuff to make sure that it doesn't run for your computer and works for mostly everyone else's. if i had been disconnected, it can say "you have been disconnected" im fine with that, it told me nothing....just sat on the loadscreen until they started and ended it oh...also got "leaver bustered" for my trouble
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Jon1174 (NA)
: I don't think giving first blood is a good reason to be stuck on a 4v5 because by that logic 5 people can invade the enemy jungle kill one person and they are stuck in a 4v5 and what do you count as before combat because combat can start within the first minute
> [{quoted}](name=Jon1174,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JvL2kJRh,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-12-02T20:56:27.600+0000) > > I don't think giving first blood is a good reason to be stuck on a 4v5 > > because by that logic 5 people can invade the enemy jungle kill one person and they are stuck in a 4v5 > > and what do you count as before combat because combat can start within the first minute their time isnt the only time that is important, mine is also if they wanna remake do it before combat
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: explain how you came to this thought
> [{quoted}](name=Insanity Song,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WV9phQvW,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-11-29T06:52:12.338+0000) > > explain how you came to this thought Had it for a long time actually when a person plays poorly all they do is talk about "report report report" they leave that game thinking "yea....it wasnt my feeding it was him being mad about it" do you remember the old days? the only shield you had was to play better....and so people did
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: I'd honestly prefer they just revert the changes they made during the marksmen rework and bring back the previous iteration of Kog'maw. While he may have been a bit weaker, the change to Runaan's Hurricane alone (making it provide movement speed and crit chance) would have been enough to bring him up. He used to be far more versatile with multiple viable AD and AP builds and the ability to weave spells between his basic attacks without losing damage. I miss the old Kog'maw.
> [{quoted}](name=EndlessSorcerer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8qNnwYEF,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-03-10T00:56:21.692+0000) > > I'd honestly prefer they just revert the changes they made during the marksmen rework and bring back the previous iteration of Kog'maw. While he may have been a bit weaker, the change to Runaan's Hurricane alone (making it provide movement speed and crit chance) would have been enough to bring him up. > > He used to be far more versatile with multiple viable AD and AP builds and the ability to weave spells between his basic attacks without losing damage. > > I miss the old Kog'maw. i absolutely agree this was a needless experiment and we are poorer for it
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: Gameplay update: juggernauts
why didn't you just put atma's back in the game? overbalance isnt fun
: I have time warner cable and I am having the problem all the time and it is getting to point I dont want to play anymore. I have spent a lot of money on this F2P game and would like to play. I just cant stand the 20min QUEUES!! I would not be in the problem if Riot would fix this. I really enjoy this game and it would be a shame to just quit but if I cant play it then i will have to stop. Riot staff if you even care then comment of these concerns of your fans.
> [{quoted}](name=TheDandyFetus,realm=NA,application-id=osqw6G4M,discussion-id=VELJQxAO,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-07-22T04:00:08.050+0000) > > I have time warner cable and I am having the problem all the time and it is getting to point I dont want to play anymore. I have spent a lot of money on this F2P game and would like to play. I just cant stand the 20min QUEUES!! I would not be in the problem if Riot would fix this. I really enjoy this game and it would be a shame to just quit but if I cant play it then i will have to stop. Riot staff if you even care then comment of these concerns of your fans. agreed this is a game breaking issue
: Do you have Time Warner cable? Seems to be issues with TWC and rito lately
> [{quoted}](name=skarymof0,realm=NA,application-id=osqw6G4M,discussion-id=VELJQxAO,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-07-21T21:30:10.339+0000) > > Do you have Time Warner cable? Seems to be issues with TWC and rito lately no sir, i have at&t dsl it isnt ideal but i live in rural north carolina, and cable connections simply arent an option further more this is a new problem, so i dont think it a consequence of my internet itself i feel like it is a client side issue
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: Given my experiences in Nemesis Draft this week, I'm actually pretty sure that ADC Zilean would be legitimately terrifying to go up against. If you think that AD Fizz or a Jayce ADC or an all-in-focused bot lane is "trolling", you're delusional.
> [{quoted}](name=Matthias9119,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=RM81HE89,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2015-02-22T17:33:35.596+0000) > > Given my experiences in Nemesis Draft this week, I'm actually pretty sure that ADC Zilean would be legitimately terrifying to go up against. > > If you think that AD Fizz or a Jayce ADC or an all-in-focused bot lane is "trolling", you're delusional. so....entire teams of meta breaking feeder nonsense is a delusion? im sorry...thats argumentative conjecture and nothing more every character has a tool kit and going against that is making your job harder it isnt competitive
: 1. AD Fizz is arguably as good as AP Fizz since his recent changes. 2. Jayce/Vi sounds like a terrifying kill lane. Jayce hyper carries almost as hard as someone like Jax but is harder to shut out early. If the opponents don't respond to it well you'd destroy them. 3. Sion mid is weird, but the roam potential is there with his ult.
> [{quoted}](name=Matthias9119,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=RM81HE89,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2015-02-22T16:17:21.120+0000) > > 1. AD Fizz is arguably as good as AP Fizz since his recent changes. > > 2. Jayce/Vi sounds like a terrifying kill lane. Jayce hyper carries almost as hard as someone like Jax but is harder to shut out early. If the opponents don't respond to it well you'd destroy them. > > 3. Sion mid is weird, but the roam potential is there with his ult. attack speed zilean is viable too...if you are a pro
: IN RANKED a fail duo, a mid sion and a ad fizz IN ONE GAME
ohhh i forgot to mention the duo jayce adc and vi support : P
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: Please, if you are going to be childish and not play through a game, dont queue ranked.
i main adc....very often i get last pick "griefer" types as support in their scorn they often refuse to do their job in impede mine intentionally i have quite literally...played my last game with that shit when i get a griefer i leave...period why? because i have better things to do
: "stfu"
it is no ones duty to respect your opinion or advice do not give it without being asked
: "Other" option when repoting someone
giving butthurts a report button was the worst thing that ever happened to this game reporting afk/ leavers? good hurts the game reporting griefers or enemy assisting? good it hurts the game reporting "he was mean to me?" horrible....supports thin skin mentalities when there was no report button you tried to play better so you wouldnt get yelled at now the report button wipes away any responsibility to improve
: Mobile Champions should deal at least 20-40% less damage in their full combo than Immobile Champions
man..i main kog'maw while i enjoy the fact that i can play a difficult character at a higher level than most others sometimes it is painfully obvious that i must work much harder at the same job yes...mobility should be balanced better kassadin is a great example...he got what he deserved i have two options....make sure i can kill them before i am reached or refuse to trade but honestly, i dislike playing easy stuff i dont revel in kill streaks when i feel it was due to character power and not my own skill
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