: Also who would use this if it was melee only?
Diana, kassadin, ap shaco ekko. It would be a niche item. However i dont think making it melee is the right proposal. If one champ was to break an item, the champ should be nerfed not the item.
: League has THE WORST ranked games experience I've ever had.
Literally just had a game where my bot laners went int otal 3/25. in a 20 minute game. 2 of their three kills was bc the enemy team was ending and inted for fun under fountain. This games matchmaking and penalty system is trash
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Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=we havent met,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JwomszEK,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-17T06:08:14.801+0000) > > You call me bias but you are literally just not reading. Morgana is the only champion support in the game that can do really well in a hook lock down meta. The day they nerf how oppressive lock down supports are BY ALL MEANS gut the fuck out of morg. > You also say that like i main morg. i dont i have like maybe 100k on 3 seperate accounts? If anything i play diana and eve, and if we are really talking bias diana has gotten the shit end of the stick for 4 fucking years. please have a seat. Wasn't talking about Diana, was talking about how you are using Blitzcrank's numbers for a reason for him needing nerfs, but ignore Morgana's 2 to 4 times higher one is all, the numbers don't lie.
I LITERALLY just told you why its so high. You have such a horrible listening problem. You must be such a nightmare to talk to irl.
Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=we havent met,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JwomszEK,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-16T23:51:08.418+0000) > > Considering morgana is literally one of the only counters to this support lock down meta no i dont think she needs buffs but i wouldnt mind her not being banned literally every other game. Lux already got her buff and im happy with it, shes not broken but shes not doing super poorly either. And contrary to w hat you think i think evelynn is down right broken. Her damage is extremely high but as most assassins, thats pretty much all shes good for. All I'm saying is you are proving my point of ignoring the numbers unless they suit your narrative. Morg has just as high as a win rate, and a FAR higher ban rate, but her numbers are ok because of your own personal bias against Blitzcrank and for Morg.
You call me bias but you are literally just not reading. Morgana is the only champion support in the game that can do really well in a hook lock down meta. The day they nerf how oppressive lock down supports are BY ALL MEANS gut the fuck out of morg. You also say that like i main morg. i dont i have like maybe 100k on 3 seperate accounts? If anything i play diana and eve, and if we are really talking bias diana has gotten the shit end of the stick for 4 fucking years. please have a seat.
: > [{quoted}](name=we havent met,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JwomszEK,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-11-16T13:35:01.272+0000) > > If a champion is thriving extremely well in high elo thats always been at least a small basis for looking at why. To mix blitzcrank among every elo and every region he has an above 50% wr with a 12% pick rate and a 36% ban rate (https://u.gg/lol/champions/blitzcrank/build?rank=overall) > Are we just playing dumb now or. You didn't explain why you said he has a 63% win rate which is verifiably false. Are YOU playing dumb?
I actually did in the edited post if you actually learned to read. There was a mix up on the actual u.gg website but thank you so much for your input
Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=we havent met,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JwomszEK,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-11-16T13:44:04.576+0000) > > My bad on the u.gg site there are two buttons for masters, one says 54% the other says 63% > > 1. It was the first thing i clicked on, its also common knowledge that d2- masters is the entry for high elo. It doesn't "suit my needs" considering challenger blitzcrank isnt over a 50% wr. But the buff was unnecessary and a lot of the playerbase would agree. Of course not, no one ever agrees that anyone except their own personal champion needs buffs, do you think people said Lux needed buffs? Or Morgana? or Eve? > 2. We wanna look at other sample sizes then? Because in that exact link theres a *40 fucking percent ban rate* for him witha 10% pick rate with a 52% winrate. I remember boards literally crucifying ahri players for her pick rates but whatever sure we can play brand new. Again, where are you getting these numbers because I see from u.gg he has 11% in worlds masters with a 50% win rate https://u.gg/lol/champions/blitzcrank/build/?rank=master_plus 17% at NA Masters https://u.gg/lol/champions/blitzcrank/build/?rank=master_plus&region=na1 with a 54% win rate You know what champion does have numbers like that though, Morgana with her 52% win rate, 44% ban (second highest ban rate in fact) in Masters, but you aren't complaining about her https://u.gg/lol/champions/morgana/build/?rank=master_plus Interesting how that works right, how people ignore numbers for champions they like because bias, hm. > And 54% in na is still a fucking good win rate Also lets acknowledge the fact that i can look you up too! You dont need to talk about me being diamond when you havent touched it except for once in season 7. So you can pull the condescending stick right out of your ass. Thanks! I'm just saying, people only really pull numbers when it suits them is all and look at higher elos then what they are.
>Of course not, no one ever agrees that anyone except their own personal champion needs buffs, do you think people said Lux needed buffs? Or Morgana? or Eve? Considering morgana is literally one of the only counters to this support lock down meta no i dont think she needs buffs but i wouldnt mind her not being banned literally every other game. Lux already got her buff and im happy with it, shes not broken but shes not doing super poorly either. And contrary to w hat you think i think evelynn is down right broken. Her damage is extremely high but as most assassins, thats pretty much all shes good for. >You know what champion does have numbers like that though, Morgana with her 52% win rate, 44% ban (second highest ban rate in fact) in Masters, but you aren't complaining about her You wanna know why morg has that wr and ban rate? Because she is one of the only champions in the game that can actually handle a lock down lane. "Gee i wonder why this champion is doing well in a meta it counters. >Interesting how that works right, how people ignore numbers for champions they like because bias, hm. Bitch the fuck you mean bias? I have a couple morgana games, oh no muh bias. >Again, where are you getting these numbers because I see from u.gg he has 11% in worlds masters with a 50% win rate https://u.gg/lol/champions/blitzcrank/build/?rank=master_plus 17% at NA Masters https://u.gg/lol/champions/blitzcrank/build/?rank=master_plus&region=na1 with a 54% win rate You wanted a bigger sample size... click NA click all ranks (https://u.gg/lol/champions/blitzcrank/build/?rank=overall&region=na1) It's almost like you just arent listening! But yet im the biased one. sure sure >I'm just saying, people only really pull numbers when it suits them is all and look at higher elos then what they are. And im just saying im picking an elo where its considered to be high elo. It's the first one i glanced at. You have an issue with it? Reach masters and then talk. idk
: If you're referring to your other comment where I've "Shamed" people for their rank, than I'm drawing a blank because I have never done that. I have brought up Rank in conversations before, but I never use Rank as a reason for why people can't have an opinion, or to insult them for being X rank. It's very important to distingush that sometimes peoples Rank does contribute to a discussion, but you need to be polite and not use it as a way to discredit someone's opinion. For example: "I don't mean any offense, but you are in Silver, and that low elo often has people who don't have the best ability to coordinate and deal with threats like Yi, which is why he thrives in lower elos". Is entirely appropriate for the boards. If you're refering to the other time where I said "It's not surprising to see this blatantly wrong information get upvoted, stay classy boards." I actually took that issue up myself with the other moderators, asking if this was an ok thing to post. It wasn't breaking any rules, but I was advised to stay away from those types of comments. And I have since, I just don't delete my own comments because I have nothing to hide when I make mistakes.
>It's very important to distingush that sometimes peoples Rank does contribute to a discussion, but you need to be polite and not use it as a way to discredit someone's opinion. For example: "I don't mean any offense, but you are in Silver, and that low elo often has people who don't have the best ability to coordinate and deal with threats like Yi, which is why he thrives in lower elos". Is entirely appropriate for the boards. That EXACT phrase gets flagged by moderation as rank shaming which is AGAINST THE RULES HONEY. PLEASE, you're almost doing my job FOR Me at this point. >If you're refering to the other time where I said "It's not surprising to see this blatantly wrong information get upvoted, stay classy boards." I actually took that issue up myself with the other moderators, asking if this was an ok thing to post. It wasn't breaking any rules, but I was advised to stay away from those types of comments. And I have since, I just don't delete my own comments because I have nothing to hide when I make mistakes. That too, but you've also said much much harsher things about the people who post. It was disrespectful and unnecessary. If you dont like the way people on boards speak, i have a really REALLY simple fix. Stop moderating! Otherwise, constructive feedback is much more appropriate and as a moderator you are expected to uphold to higher standards than the average op. There's a reason you got picked, now please start acting like it
Jamaree (NA)
: 1, where are you getting your info from because what I'm looking at has him at 50%. https://u.gg/lol/tier-list?rank=master_plus 54% in NA though https://u.gg/lol/tier-list?rank=master_plus&region=na1 2. Why are you using masters elo as a zone of balance, why do you even care about masters when you are diamond, why do players only look up numbers when it suits their needs but utterly ignore them when it doesn't? 3. The sample size of Master is FAR too tiny to use anyway.
My bad on the u.gg site there are two buttons for masters, one says 54% the other says 63% 1. It was the first thing i clicked on, its also common knowledge that d2- masters is the entry for high elo. It doesn't "suit my needs" considering challenger blitzcrank isnt over a 50% wr. But the buff was unnecessary and a lot of the playerbase would agree. 2. We wanna look at other sample sizes then? Because in that exact link theres a *40 fucking percent ban rate* for him witha 10% pick rate with a 52% winrate. I remember boards literally crucifying ahri players for her pick rates but whatever sure we can play brand new. And 54% in na is still a fucking good win rate Also lets acknowledge the fact that i can look you up too! You dont need to talk about me being diamond when you havent touched it except for once in season 7. So you can pull the condescending stick right out of your ass. Thanks!
Antenora (EUW)
: Master+ winrates are inaccurate due to the extremely small sample size. Use Diamond+ or Platinum+
Diamond and plat both have around a 51%-52% wr so... he also has a high pick rate and a pretty strong ban rate.
Dynikus (NA)
: It's not gamebreaking because the sample size for that winrate is too small to be statistically relevant. Riot doesn't look at winrate in high elo, they look at presence.
If a champion is thriving extremely well in high elo thats always been at least a small basis for looking at why. To mix blitzcrank among every elo and every region he has an above 50% wr with a 12% pick rate and a 36% ban rate (https://u.gg/lol/champions/blitzcrank/build?rank=overall) Are we just playing dumb now or.
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: Per your removal message: > This content has been removed as not being appropriate to the Gameplay sub-board. We expect posts here to be relevant to League of Legends and ##be generally constructive in nature. This would include builds, matchups, tactics and the like. ##Posts that are largely complaining should be directed to either RANT or General Discussion. Emphasis added to the relevant parts. While there may have been discussion happening in the comments, the main post itself did not meet those qualifications. You are welcome to either re-post your exact content in **General Discussion**, which does not have those requirements, or you can expand on your original post, and re-post to Gameplay.
Gameplay discussion goes in Gameplay, The OP is not required to give every instance of idea on how to do it. "Gee, i wonder who can also contribute to the **conversation** and add more thoughts on how to add counterplay to x champion" If only there was a comment section that allowed conversation and discussion to happen! Oh wait, there is. There's a reason you have 151 downvotes, ass.
: > But apparently the moment people become mods they enforce their own personal agendas with impunity. If you believe there is an instance of a Moderator abusing their power, you're free to visit us on our Community Discord and hit up a Herald about potential mod abuse. Just like comments or posts, if something isn't following the rules, people need to report it so the issue can be seen and dealt with accordingly.
Oh we do, it just doesnt matter because you've violated rules at least twice, (I've reported both instances) and its very VERY clear you aren't moderating correctly. Others see it too. Yet here you are. You should learn how to be professional. Truly. I mean this in the most genuine non hateful way. It's incredibly annoying to see moderators break rules and just get away with it.
: > [{quoted}](name=RacoonHunter,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=g53JK9pg,comment-id=00080000,timestamp=2019-11-15T20:31:34.354+0000) > > Actually the post in question did have constructive elements in it. I guess you allow other moderators to post rants (see post about Clash and Dynamic que) but not others in a similar vein. Mods change around every few months or so. For example Academy Kayn is a player made moderator. I dont know whats the criteria to become a mod. But apparently the moment people become mods they enforce their own personal agendas with impunity.
I remember when academy kayn blatantly attacked several boards members and shamed them based on rank. Honestly it's so depressing seeing people get all power hungry like that
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Rokuroú (EUW)
: Senna is a bit nuts
She has a good win rate for someone who just came out... i made a post like 2 days ago talking about how she was a little busted and it got mass downvoted- LMAO
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Infernape (EUW)
: Probably because it's literally impossible to gauge a champion's balance on the PBE. A lot of players are playing on 90+ ping as the server is in LA and have either frequent disconnections or just flat out delays because of ping and you have challengers like Pants are Dragon playing against low elo players
People in california literally play on 70-80 ping outside of pbe and i play euw regularly at 170 ping. Not an excuse. It shouldn't take every single player to determine if senna is overloaded. On top of that are we REALLY pretending like a multi billion dollar company wasnt able to foresee this? Sure whatever
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: 2 months ago, btw. No reason to not be prepared.
I'm sorry where does it show that qiyana prestige and rivens prestige would be in the same exact event? They put true damage in with the immortal journey loot which really feels kinda crappy since most of the playerbase cant grind the fuck out of an event daily. On top of that, that article didnt seem like common knowledge, it seemed like "well this is here if you actively search for it".
Colte (NA)
: 10 days is 1000 tokens (unless you don't play as much) people that heard about the qiyana prestige skin waited for it. why release it late? to make people buy the orbs.. {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
Yeah i was thinking that. You would literally have to eat sleep breathe league of legends from now until the event ends to MAYBE get it Super annoying
: They already said Prestige Qiyana was coming with the World Pass almost a month ago though. Which is why the pass is almost 6 weeks long, by the way.
When did they say that? Because to me that didnt feel like common knowledge until literally about a week ago.
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: Looked at his rates at all tiers on [u.gg](https://u.gg/lol/champions/bard/build) (which you should *always* be using instead of op.gg, since it's closest to Riot's internal metrics and it's not a useless piece of shit like op.gg is), he does tend to have a pretty high winrate...but he also has more than poor enough of a playrate to compensate that. That winrate would be a concern *if* he didn't have that playrate. But...with it being as it is...
He has a 56% wr in masters.... are we really pretending like bards damage and kit isnt super heinous. He has literally never had a nerf. At all. And i also dont like conflating small play rates and win rates. If a champion's kit itself is just a bit overbuffed it's going to be strong regardless. Ekko's pickrate is pretty low mid but he's still busted as fuck. Which is often why pick rates are indicators of balance. There are a lot of factors in it.
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: Entire season infact because no one noticed how OP it was until the end of summer split and it was buffed in 7.2 I think
Ardent meta was literally 2 years ago. And even during ardent meta, lock on picks still got played.
: Censer is for actual supports and Riot does not like actual supports.
You are absolutely right. Senna and Pyke are very evident of that
Moody P (NA)
: The swiftness? Ardent meta was half a season
Pretty sure even when it was ardent meta there were some lock down picks that were very strong. Pyke has been broken since release. Longer than ardent. Try again
: Hook champions aren't really much of a problem. If you're complaining about Pyke then I'm sure you can make a separate post for that or read one of the other million Pyke hate posts. But the other hook champions aren't too bad. Thresh and Naut especially are just average champions right now.
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Akrid415 (NA)
: URF not fun anymore
lets not forget the gross overbuff to champions that didnt need it. ah yes the kalista autod me twice for 2000 damage it makes sense. seriously riot cant do shit right ever
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Naalith (NA)
: Great, another interesting new champion that's gonna be deleted due to pro play
>Great another champion overloaded to filth bc riot cant fucking make a new champion without tacking on old champ abilities on steroids FTFY
: This is how events should be like
There shouldnt be "more reward" in a f2p game. u get plenty of chests and keys. You are guaranteed at least like 5+ chests with keys to open if u maintain good honor. No i dont think riot should be handing away free skins constantly. They are a business first and foremost. Saying its just for one shitty orb is u being ungrateful for free skins. especially when u can buy a pass thats 15$ for an ass ton of rewards. Its OPTIONAL. Just like skins and cosmetics are all optional. an anniversary reward system shouldnt be the go to of "f2p" games. The game is free to play. as are most mobas. But they are still a business, so they sell cosmetics for you to purchase if u so choose. Stop with this stupid boards echo chamber. this is literally why no one takes this site seriously. you all whine and complain and want free shit.
: > [{quoted}](name=we havent met,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0Wzk5KzG,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2019-10-25T21:15:33.269+0000) > > No you dont, youve never even played kalista in 3 seasons according to op.gg > No one likes playing kalista. Shes been dogshit for like 3 seasons because they dont know what to do with her I play support. I fucking love supporting Kalista.
You play support meaning uve never touched kalista. meaning u know nothing of how horrible she feels to play. just shut up! just shut it down!
: About players on urf
Its fucking trash lmao. People get all sweaty try hard and bust out shit like aftershock riven or protect the carry teams where its 4 ardents one hyper carry its fucking disgusting. Like the community is just so garbage. Instead of playing whats 4 fun they abuse certain things they know are gonna be op . I fucking hate this community id rather play with urf intelligent ai
: I fucking love current Kalista. You realize all marksmen are kiting marksmen right? They're the DPS class. If one **doesn't** have to kite then the developers fucked up by giving them too much burst.
No you dont, youve never even played kalista in 3 seasons according to op.gg No one likes playing kalista. Shes been dogshit for like 3 seasons because they dont know what to do with her
GreenKnight (EUNE)
: ...Morgana got it too?
Morgana got picked as mid lane morgana. She wasnt picked as a support
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itaiIKi (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Anivia Hentai,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2vTE4cGm,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-10-24T19:15:27.547+0000) > > > Its really disappointing to grind to gold Grind to gold? Getting gold is a piece of cake.
Not for everyone it isnt. The same could be said for someone saying diamond is a piece of cake.
: Revert Asol
Classic boards circle jerk! Asol literally has the highest win rate in mid lane 56.74% The only matchup statistically that he is hard losing is against zed. I swear to fucking god this is why people dont take boards seriously. They always cry for buffs when their champion is actually really good right now.
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: Why Are Karma Players Upset about the Phoenix Video?
Karma fans are upset because they can literally never be happy. ever. On a lighter meme note, karma fans arent happy because karma lost hers. (Karma fan joke if you didnt catch it)
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: > [{quoted}](name=Yordle Skywalker,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=26e281Jt,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-09-26T01:58:15.642+0000) > > I dont think Karma is dead. Her kit will keep her being a broken champ no matter what. If not broken, annoying or toxic, just as Akali, yes she has negative winrate, bad stats, oh well, she still toxic, annoying and broken for many people, no matter if they keep nerfing her, her kit is the "problem". Seriously, karma is one of the least toxic champs to play against...and I say that as someone who never plays her outside of aram. I seriously don't know where your head is at if you complain about karma being toxic, when there are at least 30 champs who are more toxic.
If you've never been bullied out of lane by karma caitlyn then im envious of you. karma has always been either useless or extremely oppressive.
: They killed Karma and replaced her with Orianna as the utility mid laner.
Orianna has always outranked karma in pro play utility mids lmao. what even is this comment..
: You already do demote if you constantly play with negative wr. Eventually your lp losses will outweight your gains and you will demote.
Of course typical boards members talkin shit about things they dont know. There are diamond and master players who statistically lose more than they win but they stay in that elo. on top of that, many players can play a decay game once a month and stay in the elo despite having a negative wr.
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