Canavar (NA)
: Ya but heres the thing, Fizz can dodge everything even tower shots with her what was it E? I think it is. Fiora can't block tower shots. I know Fiora w can do more than just stun but even still 24 secs is soo long. Especially even if you do manage to block a spell. That spell you blocked is gonna come back faster than the riposte so you can't block it again till the cooldown of your w
pretty much every fighter has a single very long cooldown spell at level 1. the cooldown goes down drastically later, and usually her first item is trinity force or black cleaver which give significant amounts of cooldown reduction. since the spell is basically an insta-win in most trading scenarios, it's completely fair for it to have a high cooldown early.
Canavar (NA)
: Reduce the cooldown on Fiora's W please!!!
but it's not just a stun, though. it's also complete immunity to anything that isn't a tower. how many abilities can you cast that will make you immune to cc AND damage? there's like, sivir e, which dodges ONE spell, and there's fizz e, which doesn't let you dodge point and click spells. also, fiora reduces her opponent's attack speed regardless, which is huge.
Rioter Comments
: The more they do things like this, the more they’re accused of and scrutinized for money grabbing by the majority of the community. They already have been criticized for their prestige skins. I’d think this event was meant as something to bring some of the reputation back. Plus, they’re likely reserving Summoner Rift recalls for Challenger recalls only, in order to make it feel really special.
emotes have overall been a success and they started out the same way
Atormsul (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=helpful rega,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=nQT7QRdu,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-06-04T02:27:30.172+0000) > > hitting a new rank for the first time is always a great feeling. it'll suck next season if you struggle to get there again, though. Yeah ,but I shouldn't have a problem. Now I'm scared to play rank because of I'm afraid of getting demoted. lol
> [{quoted}](name=Atormsul,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=nQT7QRdu,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-06-04T02:53:27.337+0000) > > Yeah ,but I shouldn't have a problem. Now I'm scared to play rank because of I'm afraid of getting demoted. lol it takes a pretty significant lose spree to get demoted back down to silver. don't worry about it :)
Atormsul (NA)
: Finally Reached Gold 4!
hitting a new rank for the first time is always a great feeling. it'll suck next season if you struggle to get there again, though.
: > [{quoted}](name=ChickenWrap,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EnaW51LK,comment-id=00080000,timestamp=2019-06-04T00:12:42.080+0000) > > https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Shaco/Abilities > > It's right there in his abilities? So, the answers, in order, are: No, you have no proof to support your point. In fact, the available evidence shows he's been performing well since as far back as 8.22, with only one patch below 50% since then. Yes, you're pretending it's okay to post rants, and really, outright lies, in GD.
> [{quoted}](name=The Ecdysiast,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EnaW51LK,comment-id=000800000000,timestamp=2019-06-04T02:23:49.227+0000) > > So, the answers, in order, are: > > No, you have no proof to support your point. In fact, the available evidence shows he's been performing well since as far back as 8.22, with only one patch below 50% since then. > > Yes, you're pretending it's okay to post rants, and really, outright lies, in GD. > [{quoted}](name=ChickenWrap,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EnaW51LK,comment-id=000b0000,timestamp=2019-06-04T02:10:11.177+0000) > > ... No. His weakest point is the start of the game. This isn't 2016 anymore. All of his skills scale with bonus AD, have almost 0 base ratios, and he only functions with items. he doesn't even get to use his Deceive properly until rank 3. > > Shaco has a weak early-game and it's also weak compared to his late-game. read?
: While he is indeed weak early game, the early game is the only time he's decent. When people say he's strong early game, they mean it relative to the rest of the game.
> [{quoted}](name=Darkdemon653,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EnaW51LK,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2019-06-04T01:45:08.627+0000) > > While he is indeed weak early game, the early game is the only time he's decent. When people say he's strong early game, they mean it relative to the rest of the game. ding dong ur opinion wrong
Rioter Comments
Kazekiba (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Faceless Shaco,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AorXe3hN,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-05-21T11:38:57.341+0000) > > of course you'd be playing that weeb music while playing with the weeb skins. i'm onto you, buddy > > always fun when the music syncs happen, though. i once had a song called "suji" start playing right after getting oneshotted by a kayn who i hadn't seen all game. not gonna link it here because it's too edgy but if you listen to the first 10 seconds you should understand why that was so funny Just comes up some Arabic dish.
the artist is maretu, that should narrow it down
: > [{quoted}](name=DUDE BRO,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dgiNmsf1,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-05-21T08:55:46.081+0000) > > Here's the fix: > > https://i.gyazo.com/051b739b662ed69b45af881d58764b6a.png > > Bramble vest is now 250 Hp + Grievous wounds only (no armor) so it's useful vs all damage. > Thornmail is also changed to build from a chain vest, so it's stats would stay exactly the same with 250 hp and 80 armor. > > Very easy change, no new items or major modifications needed. True, but what about adding a little bit of mr to it?
that and make it proc on spells
: tank grevious wounds item
your only real option is to ban vlad tbh, champ is busted beyond belief
: Gotta love it when that music hits at JUST the right time
of course you'd be playing that weeb music while playing with the weeb skins. i'm onto you, buddy always fun when the music syncs happen, though. i once had a song called "suji" start playing right after getting oneshotted by a kayn who i hadn't seen all game. not gonna link it here because it's too edgy but if you listen to the first 10 seconds you should understand why that was so funny
: Probably not, yeah. This one is just adding a guarantee to something that was a frustration before. Which is probably fine. Though I would've preferred that they guarantee it _can't_ rather than guaranteeing that it _can_.
not entirely the case here- the clone now auto-moves which makes it impossible to do some things that we used to with it as far as baiting goes, so there's still a tiny bit of tradeoff. i doubt that jumping over walls was even remotely part of their thoughts with this, and again if shaco's not allowed to have damage i'll take anything i can get as far as other tools
: Yeah, exactly. I'm not shitting on Shaco players. I'm saying exactly that-- he needs some of his unfairness removed so that he can have flat damage put into his kit.
> But changes like this, that buff his unfair mechanics rather than his strength are only gonna require nerfs to power. I agree, but I don't think this changes is a massive buff and probably won't require any new nerfs to him to make up for it.
: > [{quoted}](name=SnackerMore,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OUHAzycn,comment-id=00000000000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2019-05-15T19:32:39.022+0000) > > He's not super easy to get fed with though, he has garbage sustain, low health and resistances and box reliant for camp clears, if somebody counter jungled then he'd be useless and far behind meaning he's unable to gank as often. Let me make this part clear again HE ONLY HAS 2 USEFUL ABILITIES FOR JUNGLING, one of them being a passive. Meanwhile other champs like lee sin has a kit that's useful for everything, whether it be killing or jungling. Except every Shaco main can do it easily consistently, because of the fact that--while unique-- his strengths aren't actually _difficult_ mechanics to pull off. His useful-for-jungling abilities allow him to either take no damage at all from the first buff or take the first two camps simultaneously, something no one else but Ivern can come close to doing. Lee's actually a good comparison to use. Practice with Lee is rewarded with mastery of his more difficult kit. Practice with Shaco, on the other hand, is rewarded with mastery of his more _unfair_ kit. None of Shaco's mechanics requires particular skill to pull off, but once you do have them down there's little to no counterplay (especially since the removal of pinks oh so long ago). Lee, on the other hand, requires tight timing and aim. The difference is, if you wanna have a seemingly unfair advantage over the enemies as Lee, you have to be a good Lee. If you want to have an unfair advantage against the enemies as Shaco, you only have to know how Shaco's kit works. And Riot knows this. They can't give too much extra offensive strength to a champion who has a blink and stealth on the same ability (compared to how they removed something similar to that when they reworked Akali, or every other invisibility that isn't also movement), stronger first clear than most champions, and a near champion-strength pet with no condition and a blink on top (the only similar example being Mordekaiser, who needs to get a kill/assist within a time period to get his). This change to his ultimate is probably too strong in Shaco's favor, to be honest. But with how overloaded his kit is they can't give him flat buffs to his damage.
most of us shaco mains have been asking to have control wards reveal him for a long time in exchange for some more damage
: > [{quoted}](name=Faceless Shaco,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OUHAzycn,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-14T23:58:24.641+0000) > > https://youtu.be/MH1Oe5TPzPE > ya yeet Well there you go. OP's wrong. It can hop over walls when it shouldn't even be able to do that, so the range is actually too large.
it's always been able to do that, but until this patch it was random whether you'd actually be able to get yourself over the wall or not.
: > [{quoted}](name=Faceless Shaco,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OUHAzycn,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-05-14T23:46:28.394+0000) > > this is not true. it's a blink. you can go over walls with it. would you like a video or do you wanna trust that maybe someone with my name knows what she's talking about A video would be nice, yeah. It'd also prove OP's point wrong anyway.
https://youtu.be/MH1Oe5TPzPE ya yeet
: ***
this is not true. it's a blink. you can go over walls with it. would you like a video or do you wanna trust that maybe someone with my name knows what she's talking about
: Funny Thing With Jungle...
the scuttler changes this patch are WAY better than anything that's been going on beforehand with the jungle this year. junglers ALWAYS get flamed, so just mute everyone. focus on your own play
: i know this has been said a million times
sylas was pretty dark and edgy, wasn't he? aatrox and pyke? i think last year had more dark characters than cute ones
: What is YOUR most hated game inconsistency?
1. auto attacks pull you out of stealth before the attack actually goes, so if someone has slightly more movespeed than you, you're just a sitting duck if you're a melee champ (wukong, shaco, akali) 2. if you're camouflaged, you get a little eye above you if you're visible to turret (twitch, rengar, evelynn, pyke). if you're invisible, you do not get an eye above you, but are still seen (vayne, wukong, shaco, leblanc). this means that a lot of the time you can't actually be sure if someone had the opportunity to see you or not while ganking midlane, for example. 3. fuckinG MINION BLOCK
: Another champion getting some reverts? That's great for all the zac players! Do you think you guys could join in on the lane nidalee discussion and look at reverting her somewhat back to 5.1? There has been alot of posts about why the changes in 5.2 really messed her up and how she was not properly balanced after.
just revert shaco and then everyone can be happy :D
: Would it be better if Ignite didn't proc Dark Harvest?
It doesn't. And it would be better if it did. I have no idea what you're playing to think that it does.
: > [{quoted}](name=regalini alfredo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TdevVHLu,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-05-10T04:37:53.783+0000) > > I haven't finished enough of the missions yet, but don't the ones from this event exist in Rift? Yes, just got out of a game with my Warband kill animation and I love it!
: >" I doubt Riot will actually do this, but what do you guys think? Any interest?" In regards to the spawn ceremony-- Remember that emotes used to be temporary flairs during events too. I distinctly remember the original VS. event having emotes that could temporarily replace your mastery emote. Now look. We have a ton. I imagine if they gain enough popularity there's a good chance Riot inevitably monetizes them and makes them permanent. Finishers are a bit more iffy imo, we had the finishers for events like URF and nexus blitz, but they, at least in my opinion, tend to be sort of flashy and distracting which has the potential to disrupt gameplay.
I haven't finished enough of the missions yet, but don't the ones from this event exist in Rift?
Rioter Comments
: Udyr Early game Dragon clear is Way to safe.
he also can't gank as well as evelynn so this here is what you call "a tradeoff"
: Is master yi over powered?
he's very strong but pretty useless without peel unless he's very very ahead
Ökami (EUNE)
: I think it's time to revert Dark Harvest
dark harvest is a support mage rune taken by zyra and brand and pretty much nobody else. assassins literally have one viable rune option in their tree if they want to actually assassinate people
: Post MSI Gameplay Improvements
any news on whether you'll make dark harvest actually be an assassin rune instead of a support mage rune again? assassins only actually have one viable rune option right now and it's making your game stale
Lutsi (EUW)
: Duskblade {{item:3147}} Blackout makes it so hard to counterplay assassins.
not really? have you tried buying ninja tabis?
: That, and I think the item has a bunch of other problems. Like only poke AD casters want mana, but no poke AD casters outside of Ezreal deal their poke damage through on-hit effects. So like the mana makes it poke, the scaling makes it mid-game/late-game, the on-hit...Put it all together, you get an AD, poke, mid-game/late-game on-hit caster. Which is Ezreal, and no one else.
hmm? sounds like it would be okay on kayle
: I don't think these are bad ideas. Primary protection in promotion series is something we have planned. I think the challenge with making splashing heavier is you get to a point where you're basically giving players a single rank since you're splashing so much. Our idea going in was there would be a good balance point, but we haven't reached it so far. Thanks for the ideas!
just making splash be like half of the LP change for the role you just played would probably balance that out a decent chunk, at least for those of us in lower elos.
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: February 20
I have a thought relating to the bounties if it's not too late- could you have it just show how much every champion is worth to kill them? It'd help reduce some of the confusion as to how much bounties are worth (some people thought a 1k bounty was worth 1300 gold) and it would also make it more clear when someone who's behind should be less of a target.
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: February 15
Hey we've been waiting a while now and it seems like you've still done nothing to stop Karthus being the most oppressive thing to ever exist, any news on that?
: Champion Weaknesses in 2019
Can you guys please figure out why Lissandra is an acceptable champ to pick blind right now? this isn't okay.
Meddler (NA)
: Continuing to land AAs and spell hits that stack Conqueror in the first place will extend its duration. We're talking at present about whether or not DoTs/periodic damage (e.g. Sunfire) should refresh stack duration or not even though they won't add stacks. Galio wise still discussing what we should/shouldn't do. Changes certainly hit him hard, very convinced he was quite out of line though beforehand.
the new conqueror feels really odd on champs like sivir/talon whose boomerangs seem like they should get two stacks on, and especially odd on singed who would actually be a pretty decent user of conqueror if his q could actually stack it at all. any plans on ironing those out or is it working as intended there?
Naalith (NA)
: It's definitely cool, I think they should either do that or a cinematic trailer (not talking about the ones using in game footage) for each champion. Pyke had an awesome cinematic trailer last year and lots of characters in the past have gotten an awesome one as well. Unfortunately most cinematics go to skin lines now, which is cool but not as cool as revealing a new in-universe character. I think for the lore before reveal thing though, Ornn was probably my favorite of all time. Reading about he and the other gods through folk tales was awesome. Sylas and Illaoi were awesome too.
Meddler (NA)
: Overall looks like she's in an ok spot, though 9.2 likely left her a bit weaker. Looks like that's probably felt more in Diamond+, as with a range of other champs. I don't think she needs immediate changes, but do think she's one of around a dozen champs we should be monitoring pretty closely as jungle play stabilizes over another week or two.
eve's e and w are both bugged. e doesn't apply onhit effects and w is resetting aggro on some large monsters. is that what you guys call a perfectly good state
: Y'know, I have a cookbook project... Are you on the /r/loreofleague Discord server? You can find me and the document on there.
: I think I know what you're talking about - pushing a Minion to the corner of a turret so that the enemy minion wave outnumbers your own, and pushes through the lane faster? AFAIK, it's pretty difficult to get to work correctly (especially since sometime in, what, 2017? Riot worked on Minion pathfinding to mitigate a vast majority of pathfinding manipulations for wave management.), and while it is exploiting a bug to manipulate waves, I'm not 100% sure about whether or not it's punishable. You should probably send in a [Support Ticket](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new) asking about it, just to be sure.
I sent in a ticket and they said it was fine. Thanks
Ada Wong (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=shacowo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Becz6Kk6,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-01-30T07:47:45.544+0000) > > Here's a video. I guess I'll send in a support ticket like Umbral Regent suggested if you guys aren't sure. > https://youtu.be/rfUZJXHnkwQ Oh i'm going to try thhat now does it just work in top lane?
It's possible to do in other lanes, but I'm not really sure how to do it because playing botlane is cancer.
Rioter Comments
: I think I know what you're talking about - pushing a Minion to the corner of a turret so that the enemy minion wave outnumbers your own, and pushes through the lane faster? AFAIK, it's pretty difficult to get to work correctly (especially since sometime in, what, 2017? Riot worked on Minion pathfinding to mitigate a vast majority of pathfinding manipulations for wave management.), and while it is exploiting a bug to manipulate waves, I'm not 100% sure about whether or not it's punishable. You should probably send in a [Support Ticket](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new) asking about it, just to be sure.
Well, a "friend" of mine may have spent a couple of hours in practice tool figuring out how to get it down with a degree of consistency.
: No, it's not cheating, as long as you using in game mechanics without the use of devices that control your movement.
> [{quoted}](name=ı Sona ı,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Becz6Kk6,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-01-30T07:51:27.206+0000) > > No, it's not cheating, as long as you using in game mechanics without the use of devices that control your movement. Apparently players have been warned that doing it in Collegiate Season will cost their team an immediate forfeiture.
Hotarµ (NA)
: I don't think so, honestly. There has previously been mechanics that give you an advantage (duo jungling comes to mind as the most stand-out example) that weren't intended and nobody was punished off of that. If you have a video of this tactic I'm interested in seeing it, but overall I wouldn't worry. If anything it'll get patched out.
> [{quoted}](name=Hotarµ,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Becz6Kk6,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-01-30T07:27:27.156+0000) > > I don't think so, honestly. > > There has previously been mechanics that give you an advantage (duo jungling comes to mind as the most stand-out example) that weren't intended and nobody was punished off of that. If you have a video of this tactic I'm interested in seeing it, but overall I wouldn't worry. If anything it'll get patched out. Here's a video. I guess I'll send in a support ticket like Umbral Regent suggested if you guys aren't sure. https://youtu.be/rfUZJXHnkwQ
Rioter Comments
: Best champion pool for season 9?
just spam pantheon jungle and sit on lanes cuz jungle is useless lol
: Sorry you feel that way, but we will moderate comments that are rule breaking. The criticism he leveled was otherwise untouched. If you wish to discuss this moderation, feel free to reach out to us in the [Boards Discord](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/7rtKBZLi-boards-moderation-discord-verification) or on the Discuss the Boards subforum.
> [{quoted}](name=Periscope,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=l9dAamVL,comment-id=0000000000030000,timestamp=2019-01-25T15:48:39.939+0000) > > Sorry you feel that way, but we will moderate comments that are rule breaking. The criticism he leveled was otherwise untouched. > > If you wish to discuss this moderation, feel free to reach out to us in the [Boards Discord](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/7rtKBZLi-boards-moderation-discord-verification) or on the Discuss the Boards subforum. i can't believe staff are assuming genders in 2019 frankly
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