Yasashi Kokoro
(EUW)
xAcidik
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=Yasashi Kokoro,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3E9MA0lJ,comment-id=00080000,timestamp=2019-07-10T02:54:37.357+0000)
>
> First of all, I am a fucking ADC main and I play Ashe nowadays. This asshole is really hard to kill. I can't kite him no matter what I do. Since I have to carry most of my games, if he kills me I know the game is lost and my teammates won't carry me (match making at its best). Am I supposed to play any adc to out play that shit? Ezreal to use E? Kai'sa to buy {{item:3157}} ? I don't know man.
Vayne.
And Tryndamere isn't your job as an ADC. It's your mage or CC tank's job. It's not your job to contain Tryndamere, it's your job to do damage to him.
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Yasashi Kokoro
(EUW)
The only reasons yall lose to Tryndamere is you don't know how to trade with him, and you all in him every time without bothering to force his ult first. When you do this, it's not the Tryndamere player that has no skill and is braindead. You just don't know how to optimize your gameplay around a champion that forces you to play the lane differently. People blind pick their main into Tryn and do badly and wonder why. Tryndamere is REALLY good into those that he counters and REALLY bad into those that he doesn't.
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TimX24968B
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=TimX24968B,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3E9MA0lJ,comment-id=0000000000010001,timestamp=2019-07-09T21:33:41.858+0000)
>
> "why isn't your skill beating me?"
>
> -me, a trynda main.
Exactly.
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Hotarµ
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=Hotarµ,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=BgucT2JG,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2019-07-08T13:52:44.560+0000)
>
> Does that situation suck? Of course.
>
> Are there games where you should surrender? Yeah, probably.
>
> Is it ever acceptable to AFK or leave? No, never.
>
> When you're in queue and you press accept, you agree to play the game out until a Nexus explodes. You can try to justify it however you want but at the end of the day AFKing is wrong and against the rules.
>
> If you want to keep AFKing, that's on you. Eventually you're just going to lose your account.
If your team is legitimately trolling you, and not just messing up or playing badly, you're feeding the trolls by sitting in the game with them. You're essentially in a 3v7, and such a game is not League of Legends. Rules aside, you queued up for a game of League and this is not a game of League. Upholding some arbitrary moral code based on the rules for player behavior in a game such as this is naive.
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D357R0Y3R
(EUW)
Because there aren't tanks in our games.
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Barkley
(NA)
I'm sad that Draven is on your shit list, but I agree with the point anyway, so have an upvote.
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Mc Raton
(NA)
He's not broken though. And he's not easy. No champion is easy just because a lack of mechanical depth. If he were easy, people would pick him up and artificially inflate their ELO and Challenger would be filled with Tryndamere mains. Where Tryndamere lacks mechanical depth, you have to make up for with decision making. Some champions, like Irelia or Zed, can win fights that they really shouldn't have gone into with an insane outplay, but Tryndamere doesn't really have that ability. Instead, a bad decision will always be punished.
Same with Garen, Annie, and every other "easy" or "braindead" champ. In reality, the only "easy" champions are the ones with the highest winrates, because their kits are the ones with the most power and the most impact on games. The "hardest" champs are the ones with the lowest winrate, because they have a lot of impact on games, but that impact is bad.
"Braindead" as a word to describe a champion is just a term born from the salt of some random hardstuck low ELO Yasuo main who believes they're really Diamond level, but they play a harder champion that doesn't give them free wins and also their teams suck all the time and the enemy teams are always better.
I'm low ELO too but I own it and know that it's because I need to improve.
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macspam
(NA)
Just depends on the matchups and comps really. But it's not that they can't be used from behind, it's more like they're useless when weak. Kai'Sa, for example, might be ultra behind at one point, then hit an important scaling powers pike and kill your whole team.
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A Less Bean
(NA)
Tryndamere and Irelia fit all of your points (perhaps minus the repetitive nature of Tryndamere). Tryndamere has a very similar playstyle to the inting Sion strat that you seem to like, but the only issue is he also poses some of the same issues as that strat, and he is kind of limited to split pushing which might make him feel repetitive to you. Still, he used to be my one trick and I definitely recommend trying him. If you try him, tune into Foggedftw2 on Twitch and use his build. Do NOT use what op.gg or mobafire say. Those builds are terrible and why people think Tryn is bad.
Irelia is a champion I added to my pool after evolving from my one-trick habit, and is honestly one of the most fun champions in all of League to play for me, as well as one of the most versatile. She can split push, teamfight, duel, build tanky or burst, and is a champion that you wont ever really master. You may be good with her, but you will ALWAYS have room to improve and discover new mechanics and combos.
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FenjaminBranklen
(NA)
I'm not defending Mordekaiser (because I don't like the ult either) but idealogies do change across 4 years...
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Will of Noxus
(NA)
xAcidik
(NA)
It's not worth the time and impact on your mental 99.9999999% of the time. Just FF.
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LeBrõnze James
(NA)
xAcidik
(NA)
I unironically checked to see if this was in memes.
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Yasashi Kokoro
(EUW)
Same tho.
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Zeppelins circus
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=Zeppelins circus,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9TrQjVsX,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-06-21T08:26:44.481+0000)
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> I just hope he would return to his roots and go back to the educational content. Especially the jungle ones.
Same. As an OG Nightblue fan I just miss that stuff as opposed to the constant tilt fest he streams now.
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Impractical1
(NA)
I didn't know the difference between AP and AD and built Black Cleaver on Brand.
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TrueMortal v2
(EUW)
xAcidik
(NA)
They're a business and if you expect them to keep a no-profit game mode for one that will turn profits you don't understand how businesses work. There are millions of league players, as it has one of the biggest audiences in video games, and it is human nature to be more vocal about things that you dislike than things that you do like. That just means that everytime a member of Riot sneezes, someone like you gets on the boards or reddit to complain about it.
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Wínters Dawn
(NA)
xAcidik
(NA)
Oml that would be amazing. It could reasonably cross platform too
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Periscope
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=Periscope,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=sP62E7iK,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2019-06-18T21:58:25.453+0000)
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> It was explained in a Reddit post that there is a faster report system available to streamers as well as the reasoning behind that. I can understand looking at that NB3 stream that there seemed like an entirely different process this player went through. It's *only* faster, not more accurate nor more scrutinous; the same standards are held in reviewing NB3's report as would anyone else's.
Thank you, I've been saying this constantly.
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Zed genius
(EUNE)
NIGHTBLUE DOES NOT HAVE A RIOT FRIEND
Zephyr is available to EVERYONE IN THE LPP for the EXPRESS PURPOSE of a separate place to report. THIS IS AN INTENTIONAL, and in my opinion, GOOD feature.
And ZEPHYR does not BAN people. She literally sends a message to the SUPPORT TEAM saying something along the lines of "hey, have you seen this" in order to make it higher priority.
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Illabethe
(NA)
xAcidik
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=Illabethe,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=B8vpnwEv,comment-id=001e0000,timestamp=2019-06-17T17:39:32.645+0000)
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> Because it wouldn't tilt most "mids." It would tilt their adc and top, because the one thing a top fears the most is a runaway bot lane, and because bot 1v2ing generally is a tough lane.
>
> The mid actually usually enjoys it, because they develop an absolute CS lead, and are pretty much jungle gank proof, have twice as many mid map wards, etc.
No. Mid laners hate it. A level is worth more gold in stats than a kill by a rather large margin, and the duo mid is going to be 2-3 levels down. We put the support in bot lane because despite the problem suffered by being a lower level, no matter what level and how fed an ADC is, they can always be and/or dove and they need the support.
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potchiker
(EUW)
> [{quoted}](name=potchiker,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=8h9EE9eK,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2019-06-17T20:38:15.565+0000)
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> the other player is not in the partner program
> he didnt report he talked to a rioter via discord
It's wrong to report people now? The fuck?
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ChaosReyn
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=ChaosReyn,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=8h9EE9eK,comment-id=000000010001,timestamp=2019-06-17T20:43:26.694+0000)
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> He's more in the wrong for all the shit he's been saying.
>
> Not to defend the griefer, but there's a difference in off-meta and griefing. Nub didn't want to communicate, but he also never attempted to adapt to any hardships his strat caused his team. It was griefing not because of his off-meta strategy, but for actively crippling his team and not once trying to give any fucks about it.
>
> And NB3, though he was right for reporting that shit, was toxic as hell, and *is still* toxic as hell, about anything to do with the situation.
Nah, the man literally abandoned his role and made up another. That's griefing. It's different if it were something like Flex-queue where it's a strategy you prepare with your team, but in solo queue, without giving the opportunity to your team to adapt their picks etc. to an irrelevant garbage strategy that doesn't work, you're trolling.
That said, I agree that Nightblue was and is toxic, but it's getting magnified far beyond what it is. He was not any more toxic than the at least top 3 League streamers are on a regular basis. This has been accepted by Riot forever, and they get bigger audiences for it.
People are treating this situation differently for a reason I don't entirely understand, but it is JUST a case of GENERAL toxicity and should be treated exactly the same as anyone else.
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Crescent Dusk
(NA)
Thank you God for giving this man a brain.
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MyLilFiend
(NA)
xAcidik
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=MyLilFiend,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=B8vpnwEv,comment-id=001d,timestamp=2019-06-17T17:30:20.992+0000)
>
> As someone who spends a lot of time playing support, I get constantly _annoyed_ by off-meta picks.
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> There are characters that depend on the competence of their team members. If your team member is dysfunctional, then you don't only hurt your support, but also your entire team. We shouldn't have everyone carry the world on their shoulders, especially when they are trying to improve themselves.
>
> However, there are special instances where highly-skilled players can use off-meta picks due to their vast understanding of the game. An example would be Morgana jungle, which's highly functional and could be deadly.
>
> Something bothers me about off-meta picks is the amount of confirmation bias. They may win a few games, they may also find unprepared players, they may even also continue winning due to your personal skill. If I allow someone new to play bad picks, then we teaching them bad practices.
>
> For the most part, we shouldn't enable off-meta picks. I might make a special exception for people teaming and agreeing to it. If you choose to waste your team, then feel free to go ahead.
Thank you for having intelligence.
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PekiCodex
(EUW)
xAcidik
(NA)
No, and if you do it, you're trolling. Playing off meta champs is one thing, but totally abandoning your role in favor of a new one that you have made up is fucking trolling.
Why are all of you hive-mind keyboard warriors pretending that Teemo supporting mid laners in your game without communication wouldn't tilt you? Stop. You're lying and you're just like the Teemo, riding the publicity it gets you.
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Packun Flower
(NA)
xAcidik
(NA)
Why are all of you hive-mind keyboard warriors pretending that Teemo supporting mid laners in your game without communication wouldn't tilt you? Stop. You're lying and you're just like the Teemo, riding the publicity it gets you.
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afmghost
(NA)
xAcidik
(NA)
Why are all of you hive-mind keyboard warriors pretending that Teemo supporting mid laners in your game without communication wouldn't tilt you? Stop. You're lying and you're just like the Teemo, riding the publicity it gets you.
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Yordle Gunner
(NA)
Why are all of you hive-mind keyboard warriors pretending that Teemo supporting mid laners in your game without communication wouldn't tilt you? Stop. You're lying and you're just like the Teemo, riding the publicity it gets you.
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Yordle Gunner
(NA)
xAcidik
(NA)
Why are all of you hive-mind keyboard warriors pretending that Teemo supporting mid laners in your game without communication wouldn't tilt you? Stop. You're lying and you're just like the Teemo, riding the publicity it gets you.
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Moody P
(NA)
People shall one day learn.
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Asudurga
(NA)
xAcidik
(NA)
If you mean Zephyr, learn how the system works. Zephyr is the point of contact for the LPP and does not have banning authority. The only thing she could have done was shoot a message to the support stream saying something along the lines of "hey, have you looked at this?"
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CrazyMonkeyCZ
(EUW)
xAcidik
(NA)
I mean, yeah. That game was over, it was a tilt fest, and there is no logical reason for playing it out.
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Busty Demon
(EUNE)
xAcidik
(NA)
Yeah, you're basically right.
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The Ecdysiast
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=The Ecdysiast,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=8h9EE9eK,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-17T00:43:39.342+0000)
>
> Um... the other player was streaming too.... It's not like this was a Norms match on a smurf account where he stomped on some average Joe. This was a fellow Master rank player clearly griefing.
>
> And the fact you can now submit a report ticket via Riot Support helps immensely with the speed of punishments. Nevermind the fact it was a repeat offense over several dozen games.
>
> You wanna report him for flaming, go right ahead. But Nightblue is not in the wrong for reporting someone else who was breaking the rules.
Exactly how I feel, but rip, mob mentality gets you down votes. Lol this community though.
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Sexual Girl
(NA)
Zephyr doesn't control bans, she manages the LPP.
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CarpeConundrum
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=CarpeConundrum,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=gzZVhZBd,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-16T06:11:00.186+0000)
>
> I would love for you to show me the rules, and no the "Summoner's Code" doesn't count, I've looked up and down it and have found absolutely nothing that would prohibit a player from doing what Nubrac did.
>
> Please show me where you are bound by the rules to kowtow to the expectations of peasant minded rubes who mindlessly queue game after hundredth game to play the exact same strat they've been playing for the last 8 years. Convention is the last refuge of the unimaginative and there is no rule prohibiting experimental play styles nor is there a rule that requires a player to tell his team that he is doing something unique so they can gatekeep progress by dodging queues to continue with the same stale meta.
>
> Did the Spruce Goose soar a thousand feet into the air? No, but it DID fly. It might not have flown well, but do you think the US Airforce would have AC-130 gunships without some insane man who shat in pickle jars and wore Kleenex boxes as shoes proving the concept as possible?
>
> People like you offend me, and I disagree with everything you stand for OP. But I'm not going to contact my Rito fren to have you banned.
What are you even saying.
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The Ecdysiast
(NA)
Im so glad you understand they both are human dumpsters.
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The Kombinator
(EUNE)
> [{quoted}](name=The Kombinator,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EtmNNO86,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-14T09:45:43.647+0000)
>
> I will not, if he is an idiot. I play mainly protector support, but there are rules, that the ADC needs to understand.
>
> 1. You are not frontliner. I can't save you, if you get pulled into the middle of 5 enemies. And there is no support, that can.
>
> 2. If we lost botlane, then we lost. Get over it. Pushing, and dying 5 more times will not make us stronger than them. Play safe, and wait for jungler. We can try again after 6. Also if they are 6, and we are not, then don't go fighting.
>
> 3. If you are weak, and another teammate is strong, then i gona protect him instead, if possible. A 4/0 Yi worths more, than a 0/3 Jinx.
>
> 4. I'm not on you 24/7. There are certain circumstances when i abandon you for shorter/longer times. I always ping, if i do, and if you ignore it, then that's your fault. For example helping out our jungle against counterjungling, or warding, or if i'm low health.
I think the legitimacy of your points shouldn't overshadow what the OP is saying, because you guys don't necessarily conflict with each other. The OP is mostly talking about when he gets dove in the middle of his team and the enemy team faces no consequence, then flames him.
If your priority is someone else, and you understand that, and expect your ADC to have a rough time and don't flame them for it, then all is good, which the OP alludes to. He says something along the lines of, he's okay with getting dove and killed if his team wins the 4v4 and/or doesn't flame him for dying with a lack of peel.
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Chocolate Frost
(NA)
The fact that this sometimes happens doesn't mean you shouldn't peel.
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CloakAndGrenade
(NA)
Truthfully, you're the best human for actually understanding this.
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Salron
(NA)
xAcidik
(NA)
Thank you, OP, for being the only one who understands they're both human trash XD.
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CytheGuy
(NA)
The moment you guys say you wouldn't report this Teemo, you automatically lose any credibility especially if you're an ADC player lmfao.
That said, Nightblue should face an even harsher punishment for what he did, being a celebrity streamer who showed the behavior that he did.
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KazKaz
(OCE)
Play an AD assassin and try that, you don't do damage unless you build double lethality first lmao.
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OneMustFall
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=OneMustFall,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=PQXy7f7m,comment-id=0071,timestamp=2019-06-15T18:38:10.089+0000)
>
>..Removed by Moderation..
Exactly my point.
That said, NB3 was toxic and should be sanctioned too.
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Yordle Gunner
(NA)
They should both be banned. Nightblue is a toxic 2 year old and the Teemo was trolling ez.
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Rewt
(NA)
I mean I do see how he can be annoying to players, I just don't see what makes him broken. The OP says:
"too many escapes, dashes, invisibility, cc and too much damage and resets"
Breaking it down, if he dashes to escape, he has exactly one dash, two escapes (though usually you'd have to use both escapes to make an escape on par with J4 or LeBlanc, and can never have anything even close to Akali), invisibility IS the escape, and if CC is your problem then really, it means you got hit by all his abilities, and as an AD assassin it means you're dead, regardless of whether those abilities had CC at all. The Damage claim is pretty irrelevant considering he's an ASSASSIN, and his W doesn't even do damage, and while his resets are kinda crazy, it's the defining factor of his kit and what makes him actually useful.
In fact, I think the most busted thing about Pyke is his gold printing ability, and honestly, it shouldn't be a mechanic in League. He can ult for a champion that previously had no comeback potential and get them back into the game, and each of his ult executes gives 2 kills worth of gold, meaning going 2 for 1 in an early skirmish can actually be worth (if it doesn't fuck your wave too hard), and going 2 for 2 can put you at a 2 kill lead, which is honestly totally busted.
If they nerfed Pyke, that's an area I'd like to see nerfed, honestly.
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Glaricion
(NA)
xAcidik
(NA)
By "the least influential role" do you mean the role that a player has used for years now to get ranks 1, 2, and 3 at the same time, and then went to two more regions and did the same because people complained that it was NA and illegitimate? That role?
I agree that Riot gives no fucks, but top lane is the only role that can carry when every other role loses, it's just the worst at snowballing other lanes too (usually).
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The thigh guy
(NA)
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Heko The Man
(EUW)
I can't make myself understand the Pyke hate, I'll be honest. Especially when the figurehead for his class is Zed, one of the least punishable champions in this game. At least if Pyke commits his E to an all in he can't use it to escape lol.
And the hatred for solo lane Pyke is just because when people face him and expect it to be bad they get omega-stomped. Playing against Pyke the way you should by pushing and forcing him to struggle with his lack of waveclear as solo lane Pyke limiting his ability to roam, instead of constantly trying to all-in and trade with someone who has fairly decent sustain will yield much better results
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