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: > [{quoted}](name=xPhantomDancerX,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Y54lqxtz,comment-id=0000000200000000,timestamp=2019-09-08T01:14:39.799+0000) > > Don't know why you expect junglers to hold your hands in game. dunno why i expect junglers to match their opponents. GEE lemme just not match my own opponents in lane and see how that goes. this is what i fucking hate about junglers, they spew logic that they would never follow if they were in a lane. even worse this season is the state of the meta and how gank centric it is, why is the jungler not threatening a countergank in the gank centric meta? too difficult for him i guess, lets see what happens when laners have this same attitude, ya'll best learn how to clear without leashes cause i'm not helping any junglers anymore with the attitude towards helping your lanes and being helped that ya'll have. someone in your jungle? handle it yourself i have a lane to manage. ya'll want me to handle your jungle opponents myself while you're the same distance from the lane as him, take that away with you and realise that i will have the same attitude towards junglers as ya'll allegedly have towards laners. no leashes, no helping you guys in your jungles when you get caught out, not moving to drake you best do that yourself, not warding a lick of your jungle either i have my own lane ambitions. best of luck to you.
> [{quoted}](name=preternatural,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Y54lqxtz,comment-id=00000002000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-08T01:26:12.535+0000) > > dunno why i expect junglers to match their opponents. > GEE lemme just not match my own opponents in lane and see how that goes. > this is what i fucking hate about junglers, they spew logic that they would never follow if they were in a lane. > even worse this season is the state of the meta and how gank centric it is, why is the jungler not threatening a countergank in the gank centric meta? > too difficult for him i guess, lets see what happens when laners have this same attitude, ya'll best learn how to clear without leashes cause i'm not helping any junglers anymore with the attitude towards helping your lanes and being helped that ya'll have. > > someone in your jungle? handle it yourself i have a lane to manage. > ya'll want me to handle your jungle opponents myself while you're the same distance from the lane as him, take that away with you and realise that i will have the same attitude towards junglers as ya'll allegedly have towards laners. > no leashes, no helping you guys in your jungles when you get caught out, not moving to drake you best do that yourself, not warding a lick of your jungle either i have my own lane ambitions. > best of luck to you. And you know what's the difference between you helping the jungler and the jungler helping you? There's a whole FOUR of you guys to go around for ONE jungler, while the jungler have to predict and help all FOUR of you guys. You know what else is the jungler's responsibilities? Do or steal Dragons, Rift Herald, Scuttle, Baron, Elder Drake. Watch the map, and danger ping their laner that 80% of the time won't listen to the pings anyways. Have awareness, and know where the other jungler is at all times. Gank and countergank all 3 lanes, no matter where or what the jungler is currently doing, even when they're on the other side of the map. Hold lanes for all 3 laners, when the laners are backing, or decided they don't want to defend their own towers. Win lanes for all 3 lanes, even if the laners are hard pushing to enemy turret with 50% HP, while their opponent is at a healthy 100% HP, asking the jungler to tower dive so they can give double kill for the enemy laner. If the jungler can't win lanes for all 3 lanes but won it for 2, you already know the third laner is going to be constantly bitching and spamming "better jg wins" in all chat. Now, let's see what the typical laner has to do for their junglers. Leash? Junglers only need leash from one lane, so 66% of you laners aren't even leashing for your jungler. Help your jungler when they get invaded? It's almost a guaranteed kill or assist if you come, since the enemy jungler doesn't have a turret to run to, as they're ball deep in your jungle. You lose nothing by coming to help, and much to gain. Drake? Don't make me laugh. Does drake only benefit the jungler? Does drake only give buff to the jungler? Junglers have been doing this for so long, that people forget that drake is a TEAM buff. If a jungler solos it, without your help, the jungler just gave you buffs that you DID NOT EARN. Remember that, and don't take shit for granted.
: > [{quoted}](name=xPhantomDancerX,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Y54lqxtz,comment-id=00000002,timestamp=2019-09-08T01:09:27.999+0000) > > No one's going to abandon their half way done buff to counter gank you, unless you're full hp and getting tower dived, and they're really close by. -literally any high elo jungle stream ok, so you don't know wtf you talking about, good to know.
> [{quoted}](name=preternatural,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Y54lqxtz,comment-id=000000020000,timestamp=2019-09-08T01:10:10.539+0000) > > -literally any high elo jungle stream > ok, so you don't know wtf you talking about, good to know. Don't know why you expect junglers to hold your hands in game.
Tailypo (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=preternatural,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Y54lqxtz,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-07T21:07:55.570+0000) > > not when my jungler is the same distance from the lane as enemy jungler. I wouldnt assume your jg is planning a countergank if hes pinging you warnings, regardless of where he is.
> [{quoted}](name=Tailypo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Y54lqxtz,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-09-07T23:30:49.741+0000) > > I wouldnt assume your jg is planning a countergank if hes pinging you warnings, regardless of where he is. Exactly. When junglers are pinging you warning, it means exactly that: "Danger! Back off!" Not, "Go in! I'm coming in to counter gank!".
: not when my jungler is the same distance from the lane as enemy jungler.
> [{quoted}](name=preternatural,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Y54lqxtz,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-07T21:07:55.570+0000) > > not when my jungler is the same distance from the lane as enemy jungler. No one's going to abandon their half way done buff to counter gank you, unless you're full hp and getting tower dived, and they're really close by.
: If the jg pings you that the enemy jg is coming in and you dont leave...
45% of the time? Give me a break. More like 80% of the time.
: You ever feel like...
Which champs are aids?
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: > [{quoted}](name=xPhantomDancerX,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=u1o9M3RI,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-30T10:47:42.445+0000) > > Have the dumbass adc ward it. They never use their wards anyways. That usually doesn't happen in Silver, idk about Gold. The problem is, due to the amount of available mobility and damage+CC, you'll be locked down and (likely) killed even if you're as far from their vision as you could possibly be at that time. Your vision doesn't extend to your whole screen, after all. Is the only answer to just waste your ward? What about the Lv1/2 cheese ganks, then?
> [{quoted}](name=Kitsuné Orrion,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=u1o9M3RI,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-30T12:44:36.928+0000) > > That usually doesn't happen in Silver, idk about Gold. > > The problem is, due to the amount of available mobility and damage+CC, you'll be locked down and (likely) killed even if you're as far from their vision as you could possibly be at that time. Your vision doesn't extend to your whole screen, after all. > > Is the only answer to just waste your ward? What about the Lv1/2 cheese ganks, then? Your support can ward for the lvl1/2 cheese ganks.
: How do I deal with the Lv1 4/5-man invades?
Have the dumbass adc ward it. They never use their wards anyways.
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: > [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iB8JkrEG,comment-id=0012,timestamp=2019-06-24T15:39:24.439+0000) > > Because theyre playing at the same skill level you are. I fail to see the issue here. It's the same shit with these guys everytime. Rather they like it or not the average skill level is in fact SILVER, and if they have any issues playing with fresh 30 accounts they can fix that by NOT BEING AVERAGE. It's so easy for someone to just 1v9 their way into plat if they actually took the time to **Learn The Game**.
> [{quoted}](name=2Charmnot2Charm,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iB8JkrEG,comment-id=00120000,timestamp=2019-06-24T21:15:32.506+0000) > > It's the same shit with these guys everytime. > > Rather they like it or not the average skill level is in fact SILVER, and if they have any issues playing with fresh 30 accounts they can fix that by NOT BEING AVERAGE. > > It's so easy for someone to just 1v9 their way into plat if they actually took the time to **Learn The Game**. This coming from someone who's somehow plat 4 with 4 wins and 6 losses with a total of EXACTLY 10 games played this season. What, are you scared to play more and get dropped to iron 4? Of course it's people like you who's arrogant and up on your high horse, sprouting BS about 1v9ing. Who did you get to play 10 games each year to get your account to platinum so you can brag about it on the forums?
Naymliss (NA)
: The thing he's trying to get at is- what's the point of you saying someone doesn't understand the game when players at your elo dont really understand it any more than they do?
> [{quoted}](name=Naymliss,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iB8JkrEG,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-24T12:42:45.124+0000) > > The thing he's trying to get at is- what's the point of you saying someone doesn't understand the game when players at your elo dont really understand it any more than they do? You're delusional if you believe that people in silver are at the same level as people who should be in iron 4.
: > [{quoted}](name=xPhantomDancerX,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iB8JkrEG,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-06-23T15:17:00.105+0000) > > KDA doesn't win games. You can go 30/0, not hit a single tower, inhib, or nexus, and still lose the game. > CS doesn't win games. You can AFK farm all game and not contest dragons, rift, elders, or barons, and still lose the game. > > Map awareness wins games. Warding wins games. Objectives wins games. Killing dragons, rift, elders, baron, towers, inhibs, and the nexus wins game. Knowing WHERE you're needed and WHEN you're needed wins games. > > AFKing farming jungle when enemy team is 5 man mid with baron and your team is 4 man trying to defend does NOT win you games. Recalling in a bush 2 feet away from a team fight that your team is barely winning with FULL HP does NOT win you games. AFKing farming when your laner is spitting top and taking towers after towers when your team is too busy defending the other 2 lanes does NOT win you games. AFKing farming right next to dragon, rift, elder, or baron when your team is contesting them does NOT win you games. Coming into a fight 1vs5 ONLY after your entire teams gets wiped out does NOT wins you games. > > So please, spare me the stats. How come ur Silver for 3 seasons if you know all this stuff ? Bad teams? Yeah, you were the OP, didn't notice. So this is basically a "I shewld be Pletinum but me teams is holdin me bacc" thread. Out of your 803 games played in silver this season, this one game wouldn't impact your climb at all, stop crying and get good at the game, it's that simple. Everyone is learning new things in League every day. Even challenger players. But the difference between us and them is that they acknowledge their mistakes and don't blame their teammates for losses. Of course, not every game is winnable, but this thread is a joke forreal. While i admit that there is a problem with putting new players in mid silver even if they win 0 games, they aren't going to impact your climb that much. I understand the frustration, i have been there. We have all been, you're not the first one or the last one. And you will climb.... eventually.
> [{quoted}](name=The Spicy Crit,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iB8JkrEG,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-06-23T22:17:16.984+0000) > > How come ur Silver for 3 seasons if you know all this stuff ? Bad teams? > Yeah, you were the OP, didn't notice. So this is basically a "I shewld be Pletinum but me teams is holdin me bacc" thread. Out of your 803 games played in silver this season, this one game wouldn't impact your climb at all, stop crying and get good at the game, it's that simple. Everyone is learning new things in League every day. Even challenger players. But the difference between us and them is that they acknowledge their mistakes and don't blame their teammates for losses. Of course, not every game is winnable, but this thread is a joke forreal. While i admit that there is a problem with putting new players in mid silver even if they win 0 games, they aren't going to impact your climb that much. I understand the frustration, i have been there. We have all been, you're not the first one or the last one. And you will climb.... eventually. I've never said once in the thread that I shouldn't be in the rank that I'm currently in, so maybe you should get off your high horse and stop use rank as an argument? "I'm higher rank than you, therefore I'm right and all your points are invalid?" Silver is where a whole 1/3 of the entire player base is at, and I don't mind admitting that I'm just another average player. But I would rather get an AFK player than a player that doesn't know what the hell he's suppose to be doing. At least with an AFK on the team we would know when to play safe, and get picks to maybe win the game as difficult as it might be. But with the expectation of another 5th player that doesn't actually exist, this all goes out the window. It's not the LP losses that's frustrating me, it's the fact that I actually had to play a game with them that frustrates me. I would rather riot just deducts 100 LP per week from my account than put me in games with these newly leveled up level 30 players. Also, it wasn't just me that was upset with that game, my entire team was upset with that new player, when it's not even his fault. Riot shouldn't even be placing him in our games in the first place.
: I'm assuming this was with your last ranked match around an hour ago? making sure this is right, the jax went 14/10 w 240 cs? he's in bronze, which for someone new to ranked (I assume, his win/loss ratio is kind of all over the place) isn't that bad
> [{quoted}](name=MordridtheBlack,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iB8JkrEG,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-23T11:44:55.529+0000) > > I'm assuming this was with your last ranked match around an hour ago? > > making sure this is right, the jax went 14/10 w 240 cs? > > he's in bronze, which for someone new to ranked (I assume, his win/loss ratio is kind of all over the place) isn't that bad KDA doesn't win games. You can go 30/0, not hit a single tower, inhib, or nexus, and still lose the game. CS doesn't win games. You can AFK farm all game and not contest dragons, rift, elders, or barons, and still lose the game. Map awareness wins games. Warding wins games. Objectives wins games. Killing dragons, rift, elders, baron, towers, inhibs, and the nexus wins game. Knowing WHERE you're needed and WHEN you're needed wins games. AFKing farming jungle when enemy team is 5 man mid with baron and your team is 4 man trying to defend does NOT win you games. Recalling in a bush 2 feet away from a team fight that your team is barely winning with FULL HP does NOT win you games. AFKing farming when your laner is spitting top and taking towers after towers when your team is too busy defending the other 2 lanes does NOT win you games. AFKing farming right next to dragon, rift, elder, or baron when your team is contesting them does NOT win you games. Coming into a fight 1vs5 ONLY after your entire teams gets wiped out does NOT wins you games. So please, spare me the stats.
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: > [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fl4P7tX3,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2019-06-21T22:53:16.495+0000) > > Sure, but then their scary Kayn has itemized for tank-busting and your carries at least get off a little easier. Mission accomplished. I mean, issue is its more than a tank buster now that base armor is applied.
> [{quoted}](name=Ragnaveil,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fl4P7tX3,comment-id=0000000000010000,timestamp=2019-06-21T23:00:26.021+0000) > > I mean, issue is its more than a tank buster now that base armor is applied. Maybe I should just ban kayn.
: > [{quoted}](name=Ragnaveil,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fl4P7tX3,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-21T22:51:13.214+0000) > > Yes and no. If he buys a LW, you are practically fucked either way. Sure, but then their scary Kayn has itemized for tank-busting and your carries at least get off a little easier. Mission accomplished.
> [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fl4P7tX3,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2019-06-21T22:53:16.495+0000) > > Sure, but then their scary Kayn has itemized for tank-busting and your carries at least get off a little easier. Mission accomplished. If riot aren't going to take off true runes damage, at least remove the armor penetration in items.
: > [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fl4P7tX3,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-21T22:38:48.612+0000) > > Percentage-based damage scales on your health, so buying more health *will* increase the damage dealt to you. Armor is the best solution to reduce the damage you take, although Armor+Health also works. Yes and no. If he buys a LW, you are practically fucked either way.
> [{quoted}](name=Ragnaveil,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fl4P7tX3,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-21T22:51:13.214+0000) > > Yes and no. If he buys a LW, you are practically fucked either way. What's a LW?
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: Does anyone use Shield Bash? It seems like it would be good on anyone with a shield but the numbers are so low and the scaling so tank oriented that I can't see anyone outside of top taking it, which kind of only leaves Riven and Urgot.
> [{quoted}](name=Metal Janna,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ethY3X2M,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-05-22T01:21:03.312+0000) > > Does anyone use Shield Bash? > It seems like it would be good on anyone with a shield but the numbers are so low and the scaling so tank oriented that I can't see anyone outside of top taking it, which kind of only leaves Riven and Urgot. It would be used more if more champs can actually use it. Since the majority of champs doesn't have shield this rune is completely useless to them.
: > [{quoted}](name=xPhantomDancerX,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ethY3X2M,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-22T00:51:19.662+0000) > > Yes. What are we changing manaflow band to cuz not every champ has mana
> [{quoted}](name=Jimmy Rustles,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ethY3X2M,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-22T00:56:13.520+0000) > > What are we changing manaflow band to cuz not every champ has mana Except the majority of champs HAVE mana. Noticed I'm only complaining because most champs DOESN'T have shields. Why are you so blind to that?
: I think it's fine if a rune is niche. I wish some more of them were, but I also think the balance team is a bit out of ideas for what to put in the resolve tree since a lot of them are really uninspired. Not every champion has to use any rune. Garen can't use aftershock, and a lot can't use sudden impact but they're fine.
> [{quoted}](name=A Girl Supp Main,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ethY3X2M,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-05-22T00:53:24.834+0000) > > I think it's fine if a rune is niche. I wish some more of them were, but I also think the balance team is a bit out of ideas for what to put in the resolve tree since a lot of them are really uninspired. > > Not every champion has to use any rune. Garen can't use aftershock, and a lot can't use sudden impact but they're fine. Yeah, but at least a lot more champs have hard CC compared to shields.
: > [{quoted}](name=xPhantomDancerX,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ethY3X2M,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-05-22T00:50:37.906+0000) > > Yes. No
> [{quoted}](name=Jimmy Rustles,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ethY3X2M,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-22T00:50:53.947+0000) > > No Yes.
: No
> [{quoted}](name=Jimmy Rustles,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ethY3X2M,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-05-22T00:48:35.707+0000) > > No Yes.
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: it seems to be since match history says different
> [{quoted}](name=SLX Raigus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1J7EITsJ,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-04-17T22:10:04.465+0000) > > it seems to be since match history says different And what exactly does match history say? https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/3023180180/235127295?tab=stats
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: Why is that a good system? It should be giving you both better teammates and better opponents so the game is evenly matched. Giving you the same level teammates but better opponents means that 4/5 of your teammates will be outmatched.
> [{quoted}](name=Bob the Toastr,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sMnzETq8,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2019-04-12T15:07:45.568+0000) > > Why is that a good system? It should be giving you both better teammates and better opponents so the game is evenly matched. Giving you the same level teammates but better opponents means that 4/5 of your teammates will be outmatched. The fact is that they don't even bother giving you the same teammates with better opponents. They give you WORSE teammates with better opponents.
: Yeah same issues with LP gain for me this year, currently I am even +18 for a win and -18 for a loss. Feels bad.
> [{quoted}](name=Dweeebles,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=grQRBZ0k,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-04-10T19:01:30.580+0000) > > Yeah same issues with LP gain for me this year, currently I am even +18 for a win and -18 for a loss. Feels bad. You think that's bad. I'm currently winning at 14 lp and losing at 20 per game.
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: whahaha gets nerfed for 7 patches straight IRAEILIA OPPPPP
Gotta love those 5 movement speed nerfs.
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