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not the place for your bs there taz. go circle jerk somewhere else, where your misapprehensions about the game are more appropriate.
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Patch 7.3 notes
Can we all just take a moment
Scarizard, who's been writing these patch notes for like, forever, is leaving riot this upcoming friday.
Please, everyone /thread and thank him for his hard work.
Thank you, Scarizard. We'll miss you
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Nono, it's Please Send Tell, when somebody wants to buy/sell something in Trade Chat.
wait, people do more in tradechat than spam thunderfury? what game are you even talking about
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because even if he was perfectly balanced, which is debatable, there was no compelling reason to pick him over other artillery mages like xerath or ziggs. now there is: he can burn through tanks late game in teamfights with his ult
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STAR GUARDIAN URGOT OR GTFO
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Scarizard
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Mid Year Mage Updates - Low-Scope Mage Directions
tbh i think i know why veigar's ult blows me up, if i built ap it's because there is ap, if i didn't it's because i don't have mr. not a mystery, really. i kinda like it this way.
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i personally have 5 key fragments at all times and never any boxes, rip me
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i can't even hold all these upvotes, look at how right i am, you are plebs and i am the king bow down before me for i am your lord and master by virtue of upvotes
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tbh i love support, i play like almost exclusively support (little jungle lately but still, 90% support) and i've seriously had to consider switching my main role because i'm sick of being flamed all the time for being the support, and for having to depend on my adc who has no idea what is going on.
duo laning is much harder on the support because we have to set the tempo without an abundance of damage, and if we do bring damage, we get flamed for bringing damage. i sometimes doubt that most adcs realize what goes on around them when they're farming, how much zoning i do and how much awareness i need to have to make sure my auto-shove adc doesn't get ganked because he's pushed up with no chance of jungle assistance.
and yet when i do make a play it's just "nice job vayne"
but if something goes wrong, always my fault
it's frustrating man
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{{champion:36}} AYY BABY U WANT SUM FUK
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Meddler
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We've got a target we're aiming for, until the final work's finished and confirmed to hit the required standards it's still going to have to be described as 'soon' though.
soon, or soon™
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sounds more like people want upvotes
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garen is pretty easy to kite, whereas when j4 decides he's coming for you the best thing you can do is flash out of his ult, and aside from engage j4 actually does have both damage and tankiness lol. if you're taking j4 top you tend to go full one shot mode instead of tank, tho: is eqr auto combo is reaally strong if you build full ad
plus if garen gets behind, he has to build tank and just hope he can catch skillshots in fights or find the nemesis really low for the true damage on his ult: if j4 gets behind, he can still engage for his team, regardless of items or kda
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she's still a mid laner, is the point. just cause she's balanced for support doesn't mean she can't be a midlaner. i also wouldn't say the karma rework was a failure
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20thCenturyFaux
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Mid Year Mage Updates - Zyra Direction
a lot of people on this thread are pretty mad that it's being balanced around support, and saying she's not a true support
1. they're balancing her to make her one, so if you don't feel that way right now, maybe that's why they're changing it
2. anyone can really be a support as long as they duo and help the team, whether it's cc, vision control, or protection
3. just because your support does damage is no reason to imply your support is not a real support. Brand, Vel'Koz, and Annie all do plenty of damage, and before you say "well they're all midlaners:" Bard's not a midlaner, but take thunderlords and ignite on him and you've got yourself a kill lane, buddy. Support through damage isn't as intuitive as a cc bot like nautilus or a walking shield like braum, but it's still support.
4. Zyra mid is fine! People are complaining about Zyra's balance as a support in the way Karma was balanced as a support: guess who has been played mid multiple times this season in pro play? (hint, it's zilean: but it's also karma)
4.5: Just because she's balanced for support doesn't mean she'll be useless in mid. She's currently played way, WAY more at support than mid (about 75% of Zyra games are on support, vs 21% mid), so it makes more sense to balance her for the position in which she is most often played. That said, it's not gonna stop us /r/zyramains from taking her jungle.
So sit back, calm down, and be happy that they finally put out a directions post like i am
cheers, lads
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you couldn't be more wrong, most zyra support players don't go after kills or cs. even janna will take a cs or two here or there by accident with a tornado, and frankly if my adc couldn't get a kill when i dropped a root, two slowing plants, and an ult with a knockup, he or she isn't working hard enough.
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you can only get a chest once every 7 days
if you look on your summoner profile there are 4 chests, and it says "you can earn a new chest in x more days"
if you've already gotten a chest from a game this week, you can't get another one for a bit
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same here, also part of my summoner profile isn't working, the front page where it shows champ mastery and solo rank is completely blank: not missing my champ masteries etc, just blank altogether
edit, fixed the summoner profile by relogging, the chests are shown on my profile but i can't figure out how to open
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ty, friendo
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i'm a support main i don't need to play against fiora to know she's fine. She has conditional damage output, an exploitable early game with great scaling and high mechanical play, she's exactly the way she was designed to be and just because you're salty about it doesn't mean nautilus, who has been above where he needs to be to be effective for FAR too long, doesn't deserve a bit of a balancing, and just because i'm low elo doesn't mean i don't know my stuff
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fiora is fine, she requires actual skill and risk to play. nautilus can build full tank, walk up, hit e, and chunk you for more damage than a cc bot/tank like him should be able to do on base damage alone.
if you're worried about fiora's damage, there was a good post on reddit today about how to counter her in lane.
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the 5.5 change you listed with the reduced cooldown on his e is specifically what put him into pro play. I remember because I was so excited to see it happen, LemonNation played him on support and ended up with more kills than Sneaky. He's past due for a nerf, he has been too strong for too long. He's able to put out inordinate amounts of cc with high base damage and medium cooldowns, and his tank scaling is immense. i'm not saying he's entirely broken, but there's some room for balance
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uh, no, actually, they're pretty neat and provide for strategic diversity, lucian for instance can take thunderlords to win lane or fervor to do better damage over long teamfights, jungle graves can take thunderlords to double down on his already crazy burst, or strength of ages from free stats as a reward for farming. Just because a couple champs hyper-synergize with a couple keystones doesn't mean the system is a failure
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i've apparently not made clear that i am talking about executing from melee range, like even ranged champions would have to walk in to like 50 range to get the execute
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plus i think the champions are vulnerable even in lore, but the reason they are _champions_ is because they've survived some crazy stuff and can do it consistently. eg, Gangplank.
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Sargonas
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All those things are totally kosher. :)
UGHHH thank god, this has been bugging me for months and i haven't been able to get a straight answer. tysm
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it actually doesn't proc on zyra's plant damage, so i'm not sure what it procs on yet.
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mirageofpenguins
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Heya Bui,
I've spent some time investigating your claims, and I believe I've identified a primary source of confusion:
Back towards the end of last season, you allowed another player to utilize your account for exactly 9 ranked games and one promotional series (sometimes referred to as boosting). During his brief tenure, he unfortunately employed the use of a fairly obvious scripting application, and while it may not seem like you're directly at fault, we ultimately hold an account responsible for the actions taken on it.
The damage here was significant. You were reported in just about every game you allowed him to play for you, and while we don't use player reports to determine guilt, they definitely paint a picture of the pain caused by scripting suites. There's never really a good reason to share your account, and those seeking additional security guidelines can level up [here](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201751664-Protecting-Your-Account#h2q1).
good catch, just to be clear tho: razer synapse and curse voice and like, replay software, is that stuff all good? i use razer and curse and was thinking of getting lolreplay or something to review my play to improve, u feel
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yes, because as a support it's nice knowing that we have a split push and i don't have to buy banner, and because i know if we have a fed assassin i don't have to worry as much about the enemy adc. and it's nice to know that if my mid laner is ahead (as a jungler) they'll probably stay ahead.
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ha, no, that is a shitpost
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is this a "shitpost," we don't stand for that sort of thing here
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ever try skipping the red/blue buffs and hitting the smaller camps first to get more exp? i've seen it on other junglers with weak early clears and it's had some success. for instance instead of gromp/blue/wolves, go gromp/wolves/scuttle/blue or something like that
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zyra main here, what are you running for runes/masteries, or more to the point, how do you stay healthy for your clear? the few times i've jg zyra, i rarely come out of my 3rd camp at over a quarter hp, and i rarely do a full clear without backing before level 4
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zyra jg is op
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the amp was unbalanced, and the movespeed on her q is to give her better mobility when her ult is down. the *potential* change to her e doesn't really punish her that much, it just allows for counterplay, since if you can charm an engaging enemy it makes it pretty difficult to engage upon an enemy like ahri who already has a lot of mobility to avoid being engaged upon
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before the s6 preseason marksman update, i would've said {{champion:42}} without question
now..... it's a little tough. that's a tough metric to define this early in the season
i'd say {{champion:111}} and {{champion:150}} are both good candidates, along with {{champion:421}}
{{champion:54}} is a good candidate because no matter how poorly you do in lane you can always come back and be malphite at some point, hitting an ult in a teamfight could mean the game (although one could say because he is able to be effective no matter what he is a little unbalanced: i would disagree)
but i think my choice for the absolutely most balanced is {{champion:412}} , as he has a reasonable amount of counterplay if you are good enough to dodge his skillshots, but still provides plenty of strength for a team in zone control and lanterns. just aside from that, he's also a champion with great rewards for playing him well, but not the most punishing experience if you're not a Diamond 1 thresh main.
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upvote the shit out of this
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i've always wanted this but i imagine it's a fairly low priority for riot, would be great to see it show up tho
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ask yourself:
what if the reason there are more "i'm quitting" posts is because there are more players overall, so there are more players to quit
for instance
10 people join, 3 people quit as opposed to before when 6 people joined and 1 people quit (these aren't actual figures i'm just illustrating my point)
that's still 7 people staying, up from 5, but there are more people quitting because there are just more people to quit
do u get me
league is more popular than it's ever been, it was the most popular game in the world last year and tickets for the next IEM Katowice sold out in under 1 minute.
i don't think riot is too concerned that their player base is shrinking.
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{{champion:33}}
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-When you save the adc but they burn summoners anyway
(WHY DID YOU FLASH THE LANTERN)
-When your adc leaves lane without you and you get to last hit at turret for a sec
-When you sneak a deep ward and it results in killing the enemy jg in their own jg
-When you turn the aggro/gank around
-When you make a sweet roam mid even though you're a terrible ganker
-When your adc pings the cannon to tell you "take it"
-When you dodge the skillshot, but your adc gets hit because they were standing right behind you
-When you land the blind skillshot into the sidebrush
-When you get kills defending your pink wards
-When you, the support, steals dragon
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always grasp in top lane tanks, i think. and you could get real cheesy and go first item thornmail if you wanted, but i'd stick to just sunfire cape and hug turret, your turret waveclear on naut is pretty respectable if you're maxing w or e so it should be doable
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Somebody played that in a game I was in and I thought they were trolling. Fast forward 20 minutes and the support Illaoi was the only positive player on the team other than me, and we ended up carrying hard. Never underestimating that again!
Still not sure if it's...good. But anything can be good if the person playing it knows what they're doing
the trouble is that illaoi support basically always wins lane because her e is so strong, but she doesn't have enough engage to net lane kills, so while you win lane so hard that your adc Flame horizons the enemy adc, illaoi comes out of lane with less assists than your average support. i've hard carried games from the botlane on illaoi, just letting my vayne free farm into a duo lane, and finished the game at 0/4/7 in a 40+ kill game, with no assists in lane because the pressure i exert is too much to trade into safely.
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no it's like some actual real junglers i just forget who cause i don't jungle much
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ThEntropist
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Pink Wards, Potions, etc...
a couple champs are missing the jungle page if they take smite, other than that just what you said i think
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i'll give you the {{champion:81}} , i'd also say {{champion:202}} right now because no one knows how to properly lane with him.
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i've seen him twice in a week, riddle me that one
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