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: He had life steal and magic resist You had a wonky build with no morellonomicon or any defensive stats. You whole point is that ad Mr items are better than zhonyias yet you didn't even have seekers It's no surprise that he beat you. Also why the attack speed and lichbane? You lose damage when you auto attack on Cass
> [{quoted}](name=Pink Leg Warmers,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nvzusWN2,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-11-05T12:53:14.313+0000) > > He had life steal and magic resist > > You had a wonky build with no morellonomicon or any defensive stats. You whole point is that ad Mr items are better than zhonyias yet you didn't even have seekers > > It's no surprise that he beat you. > > Also why the attack speed and lichbane? You lose damage when you auto attack on Cass Dude. Go on the practice tool and use this build and you will see, it has the highest damage output on Cass than anny other build. The attack speed helps her to get her autu attacks off before her E cancels it.
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: Serious Talk: People need to chill out about the Balance Team
that life in general. You can be 100% great at your job, but the one time you make a mistake, heads will roll.
Mye (NA)
: Maybe now we'll start seeing him less in the jg and more as a passive botlaner.
> [{quoted}](name=Mye,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XRIyeRB0,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-10-25T13:05:53.630+0000) > > Maybe now we'll start seeing him less in the jg and more as a passive botlaner. Makes me wonder if riot actually has a balance team. I'm starting to think all they have is a department that consist of 1 staff member.
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Kai Guy (NA)
: Think about how she feels to play if you did not, Then add in all the widely incorrect ideas people have on how to play her. Every time some one tells me she cant gap close I just get irritated, you can cut folks off so they have to move into your range for a shot at safety. Or you can ulti backwards. Then some ones gonna be all like OMG THATS NOT WHAT YOU USE IT FOR... when that same persons complaining that hes struggling to grab kills because she has no mobility/gapclosers. You cast R to blink and kill some one. Your down R, you up a kill. You cast R to kill some one and get blinked back, Your R is on cd and your up 1 kill, but instead of using it to blink then snag a kill on a low target, people go ham for the "execute" Mind you her E has a %hp and her Q is strong point blank and vs charmed targets. So we see this play, sneak up to range, Flash, Ultimate out. Your now down a very long cd SS, up a kill and ulti is on cd. Just W, R, EQQQ or WRQeqq at that point and save the flash.
Honestly i don't really see any reason to play without smart cast. The past of the game is to fast for one to not use it.
Kai Guy (NA)
: Quick question, do you use smart cast?
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Nhifu (NA)
: Why do melee champions have such slow attackspeeds? (Skills)
Because melee champs are kiteable. So they have to hit harder rather than faster because each auto attack means your champ is standing still rather than moving. Hence 2 hard auto attacks are better than 3 softer/faster ones because you spend less time standing still.
: Sounds problematic for the age restriction xD
> [{quoted}](name=Timethief49,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ra0YT6XG,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-10-23T13:47:22.820+0000) > > Sounds problematic for the age restriction xD Good point, but that went out the door with Urgot ult
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Poske (EUNE)
: Rant Coming from a Mage/Ap assassin main? CAN WE LIKE OVERHAUL ENTIRE AP ITEMIZATION?
It due for an overhaul but i upvote to add pressure to riot. We want an update now
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: Edit: Well the alternative is that Void and magic damage champions get effectively slightly nerfed.
They just need to add some mpen to another item or something
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Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: October 11
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: [Idea for a Rune] "In times of need"
really cool idea for supports. riot wont do it tho as they already filled all there runes slots
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: October 6
Meddler, Manamane, doesn't need a buff, it needs to be reworked as only Ez, uses the item. It needs to appeal to more champs
: Aurelion Sol and Runes Reforged
try using summon aerie instead tho i found the damage was pitiful.
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: why is riot happy that intended mid lane mages zyra/morg now only function as supports?
you forgot {{champion:43}} . To add to ur point, they also removed {{champion:28}} AD scaling to make sure she works in her intended role. The need to do the same with the champs u listed
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: Riot, no, please don’t do this to Ornn..
I want to be able to build full damage on Ornn. He needs some scaling
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Raoul (EUW)
: I am so tired of the League of ADCs
Just look at the new runes. They get 3 keystones dedicated to them while mages have to share theirs with supports. At least it not like this season where mages, assasins and supports had the same tree
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: September 26
Meddlar, which keystone are battle mages suppose to use?
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: {{champion:516}} actually isn't that durable. He just builds tank and has butt loads of CC.
> [{quoted}](name=Grizzlpaw,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qXEZaBrf,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2017-09-24T19:53:39.979+0000) > > {{champion:516}} actually isn't that durable. He just builds tank and has butt loads of CC. Yea i woud just love to build him damage, but his has almost no ap ratios.
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: Statikk can crit. That's probably why he has it doing 227.
> [{quoted}](name=Bob the Toastr,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2svX9zv8,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2017-09-24T16:00:40.858+0000) > > Statikk can crit. That's probably why he has it doing 227. Yea but the crit from shiv gives a lot of burst at the start. So it gives burst and sustain damage
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Häxel (EUW)
: i see you tried to compare similar items passive or statwise like ludens/stattiks, zhonyas/ga. But why you compared pd with morellos? Morellos is a cdr grievoius wounds item. Grievious wounds would be mortal reminder (instead of lord dominiks for example). But for Cdr wise you need to compare morellos to essense reaver (essense reaver statiks ie could be a sivir/xayah itembuild). Than again i would say that neither, rabbadons deathcap or guardian angel are coreitems at the moment. While you go definetly for exampel liandrys atm you don't go lethalaty items mostly on adcs. And just lets compare mr items, which dominate atm much more. {{item:3165}} 2900 vs 3400 {{item:3508}} {{item:3020}} 1100 vs 1100 {{item:3006}} {{item:3151}} 3100 vs 3400 {{item:3031}} {{item:3102}} 3000 vs 3250 {{item:3156}} {{item:3285}} 3200 vs 2600 {{item:3087}} {{item:3135}} 2600 vs 2600 {{item:3033}} 15950 vs 16350..... wait. that costs an adc 400 gold more? ok, we again switch liandrys with rabbadons and at the same time we switch maw with mercurial cause the ability removal is more similar to banshees. than we have {{item:3165}} 2900 vs 3400 {{item:3508}} {{item:3020}} 1100 vs 1100 {{item:3006}} {{item:3089}} 3800 vs 3400 {{item:3031}} {{item:3102}} 3000 vs 3600 {{item:3139}} {{item:3285}} 3200 vs 2600 {{item:3087}} {{item:3135}} 2600 vs 2600 {{item:3033}} 16650 vs 16700... oh. 50 Gold more for ad, but nearly the same. Strange. Did you optimize to let it look better for ap? But what would be the conclusion? Sure, there are some cheap ad items like the {{item:3086}} line or {{item:3035}} line but at the same time {{item:1038}} line (beside ga), {{item:3134}} line, the mr line for ads (beside wits end), the {{item:1053}} items, {{item:3078}} and {{item:3124}} are all over 3k gold. And mages have cheap options as well too: {{item:3116}} , {{item:3152}} , {{item:3157}} (could get cheaper preseason with "timewatch"), the {{item:3010}} line and fckn {{item:3041}} : a 1400 gold item, that you can build out of a start item and which can give with you with his 20 baseap and 25 stacks up to 145 ap, making it 273.48% gold effizient. You only have not to die and to make kills or assists. Ads don't have such an item anymore. mabye zeal needs to get adjusted. Maybe ap itemization as whole (looking especialy at rylais and rabbadons). But the golddiffrence isn't that terrible as you try to describe it.
> [{quoted}](name=Häxel,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NlEk6LNH,comment-id=001c,timestamp=2017-09-24T12:21:06.370+0000) > > i see you tried to compare similar items passive or statwise like ludens/stattiks, zhonyas/ga. But why you compared pd with morellos? Morellos is a cdr grievoius wounds item. Grievious wounds would be mortal reminder (instead of lord dominiks for example). But for Cdr wise you need to compare morellos to essense reaver (essense reaver statiks ie could be a sivir/xayah itembuild). Than again i would say that neither, rabbadons deathcap or guardian angel are coreitems at the moment. While you go definetly for exampel liandrys atm you don't go lethalaty items mostly on adcs. And just lets compare mr items, which dominate atm much more. > > {{item:3165}} 2900 vs 3400 {{item:3508}} > {{item:3020}} 1100 vs 1100 {{item:3006}} > {{item:3151}} 3100 vs 3400 {{item:3031}} > {{item:3102}} 3000 vs 3250 {{item:3156}} > {{item:3285}} 3200 vs 2600 {{item:3087}} > {{item:3135}} 2600 vs 2600 {{item:3033}} > > 15950 vs 16350..... wait. that costs an adc 400 gold more? ok, we again switch liandrys with rabbadons and at the same time we switch maw with mercurial cause the ability removal is more similar to banshees. than we have > > > {{item:3165}} 2900 vs 3400 {{item:3508}} > {{item:3020}} 1100 vs 1100 {{item:3006}} > {{item:3089}} 3800 vs 3400 {{item:3031}} > {{item:3102}} 3000 vs 3600 {{item:3139}} > {{item:3285}} 3200 vs 2600 {{item:3087}} > {{item:3135}} 2600 vs 2600 {{item:3033}} > > 16650 vs 16700... oh. 50 Gold more for ad, but nearly the same. Strange. Did you optimize to let it look better for ap? But what would be the conclusion? Sure, there are some cheap ad items like the {{item:3086}} line or {{item:3035}} line but at the same time {{item:1038}} line (beside ga), {{item:3134}} line, the mr line for ads (beside wits end), the {{item:1053}} items, {{item:3078}} and {{item:3124}} are all over 3k gold. And mages have cheap options as well too: {{item:3116}} , {{item:3152}} , {{item:3157}} (could get cheaper preseason with "timewatch"), the {{item:3010}} line and fckn {{item:3041}} : a 1400 gold item, that you can build out of a start item and which can give with you with his 20 baseap and 25 stacks up to 145 ap, making it 273.48% gold effizient. You only have not to die and to make kills or assists. Ads don't have such an item anymore. > > mabye zeal needs to get adjusted. Maybe ap itemization as whole (looking especialy at rylais and rabbadons). But the golddiffrence isn't that terrible as you try to describe it. I didn't compare Essence reaver because it is not in the typical build of an ADC. Only few of them use it{{champion:236}} and maybe {{champion:21}}
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