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: I don't think any amount off buffs will fix AP-EZ in a healthy way now. Befor the rework, the aoe from W was a good selling point that gave a reason to go AP rather than AD, same with the more reliable poke gained from it. Now there is no real destinction, unless you increase his singletarget burst potential to LB levels which would be rather unhealthy, or you compensate the lost aoe with a stronger ult, which also might become rather problematic. The changes to his W just destroyed the very fundation for AP-EZ.
> [{quoted}](name=Sire Hippington,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6QxfKhNA,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-10-18T13:04:43.554+0000) > > I don't think any amount off buffs will fix AP-EZ in a healthy way now. > Befor the rework, the aoe from W was a good selling point that gave a reason to go AP rather than AD, same with the more reliable poke gained from it. > > Now there is no real destinction, unless you increase his singletarget burst potential to LB levels which would be rather unhealthy, or you compensate the lost aoe with a stronger ult, which also might become rather problematic. > The changes to his W just destroyed the very fundation for AP-EZ. I think if they lower the ult cooldown per rank as well as the damage reduction through minions would be a decent buff. The ult is predictable and easy to miss up close. Making it less position reliant in terms of how many minions it hits with a lower cooldown would be a decent healthy buff I think.
: Heaven forbid champions have to put themselves in risk. I honestly didn't see anything wrong with the Xerath script that would just sit in fountain and AoE the whole map with Q. /s lol
> [{quoted}](name=Hethalean,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6QxfKhNA,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-10-18T12:30:08.279+0000) > > Heaven forbid champions have to put themselves in risk. I honestly didn't see anything wrong with the Xerath script that would just sit in fountain and AoE the whole map with Q. /s lol I get what you are saying, the point I'm making though is that he didn't have to do that before to get his W damage off. Now he has to and the damage done is relatively the same and is now single target instead of AOE. There wasn't any compensation for that. AP Ez simply got nerfed and its not like it was OP or broken.
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Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: October 17
Ez ult loses too much damage through minions, this makes ap ez weak
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: Because all of her abilities, particularly her passive, scale with AP?
> [{quoted}](name=AvantelWings,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aWsEU1N2,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-10-17T15:06:53.232+0000) > > Because all of her abilities, particularly her passive, scale with AP? Well thats kinda my point though. If I build AP Lucian, my ratios suck. If I build AP Ez, my ratios are decent but I can still miss skill shots. When I build AP Kaisa, the damage is reliable with good AP Ratios. The point I'm getting at is why does riot allow her to be the only ADC that is actually viable with an AP build. What about the other ADCs with AP ratios? Like Lucian? Why are they left in the dark when it come to AP builds. Riot might as well remove those AP ratios if they are not going to make the champ decent if they build AP.
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: Shit, liandries ashe is fun as fuck in aram.
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aWsEU1N2,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-10-17T15:02:38.164+0000) > > Shit, liandries ashe is fun as fuck in aram. Its fun but you can't carry hard like that. Kaisa is actually viable full AP
Pika Fox (NA)
: Ezreal, varus, tristana (moreso pre marksman rework but still fun), kog maw, miss fortune
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aWsEU1N2,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-10-17T15:01:48.809+0000) > > Ezreal, varus, tristana (moreso pre marksman rework but still fun), kog maw, miss fortune Most of these champs except for maybe Varus, can't carry like Kai'sa using an AP.hybrid build. The rest tend to be gimmicky
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: I use muramana i would use it more if as a fighter i wasnt locked into buying 4 defensive items defensive boots and a defensive damage item.
> [{quoted}](name=LordGeovanni,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=n37z5G7i,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2018-08-13T20:28:15.689+0000) > > I use muramana i would use it more if as a fighter i wasnt locked into buying 4 defensive items defensive boots and a defensive damage item. I works well with this {{item:3043}} {{item:3025}} {{item:3110}}
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: MAJOR user friendliness issue with Evelynn THAT CAN EASILY BE FIXED!!!
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: What if Illaoi builds it and hits the enemy champ, her E's soul and the items soul?
> [{quoted}](name=AnAggravatedPimp,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OWJLu3lP,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-08-06T13:47:53.020+0000) > > What if Illaoi builds it and hits the enemy champ, her E's soul and the items soul? the item is Ap. she wouldn’t want to build it, but I’d imagine the item soul should get canceled in favor of hers.
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: So u wanna bring to the game even more damage? Nice... seems we haven't enough damage.
> [{quoted}](name=WøOxer,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OWJLu3lP,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-08-06T13:43:20.889+0000) > > So u wanna bring to the game even more damage? > > Nice... seems we haven't enough damage. this isn’t adding damage, this is just letting mages have an easier time with mobility in a healthy way.
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: > [{quoted}](name=xxxMadLionxxx,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bwpjBaeB,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-07-26T18:18:40.608+0000) > > I thought is was a new item riot created specifically for mages to go bot lane. Which failed btw cause all mages now need a mana item first. ummm doran's ring is a mana item. mages have gone bot lane before this item existed, I really don't see what the problem is.
> [{quoted}](name=Chibi Bronzlife,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bwpjBaeB,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-07-26T18:23:45.854+0000) > > ummm doran's ring is a mana item. mages have gone bot lane before this item existed, I really don't see what the problem is. Dude, do you even play mages?
: uuuugh spellbinder isn't really a damage focused item, it's a utility item that enhances damage stats, it's more beneficial for supports who get less AP overall imo.
> [{quoted}](name=Chibi Bronzlife,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bwpjBaeB,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-07-26T18:16:32.210+0000) > > uuuugh spellbinder isn't really a damage focused item, it's a utility item that enhances damage stats, it's more beneficial for supports who get less AP overall imo. I thought is was a new item riot created specifically for mages to go bot lane. Which failed btw cause all mages now need a mana item first.
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