Rioter Comments
: Why high damage meta is ruining Jungle, and making it far too skill oriented.
My problem with the overall catch up experience BS is that if you happen to get an internet outage, game crash because Riot client sucks ass or any other realistic disconnect type issue you are guaranteed to be punished for it and if you do come back into the game you are basically going to be 10 levels under permanently or you are going to be pummeled by team mates just because the client is shit. At that point to might as well not come back, get a ban or take your entire lanes minions / XP just to catch up. Another problem I find with the XP nerfs is that as someone who used to be Plat III JG only. It is significantly harder to become relevant in a game even if you are 15/0/2 at 15 minutes because you are at such a level disadvantage and gold disadvantage you may just have to hope your team isn't an inconsistent brain dead player who has no map awareness what so ever. I've been in this situation soo many times and it gets to the point where this idea of "just improve your skills", "just get better" - *Quote, RUJITRA 2020* is a joke. Example: Sett JG game: 8/0/2 at 15 minutes LV 9, Same level as my bot lane who fed their ass off? one level above support who doesn't even clear camps or kill minions for XP, 2 levels under mid laner and 1 level under top laner who has had an equal lane all game. I feel with this concept in mind, it no longer comes down to the better jungler. It comes down to pure luck
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=xelaker,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4eOFRvKm,comment-id=,timestamp=2020-01-20T03:43:15.314+0000) > > If you've lost 3 drags in a row and each time you find yourself slowly doing krugs, it's not the xp changes to jungle. The jungle changes being Riot's usual brain-dead gambit doesn't excuse you to have not learnt the very basics of the jungle. > > Unless top lane is the greatest player on planet earth, it isn't worth losing all the dragons to be close enough to hand out hugs to top lane 24/7. > > And heads up, nobody wants to jungle, it's gonna be a fill role every once in a while. How on earth are people still acting surprised that at least someone in most matches is a fill? You can't take dragons if mid and bot lane don't give you prio. I can't count the amount of times we've wiped their team and instead of helping me do dragon my lanes go back to push to turret, so we don't get dragon. It's not the jungler's job to solo dragon. When you do so, you're begging to get collapsed on at half health or less by a roaming lane or respawning jungle.
Literally made a post with this exact scenario in it. You know what happen right?, everyone down voted me to hell and back. Its a shame people don't admit to this but instead say "you improve your skill" or "get better"
: Sett is the most balanced champion on release since forever
As much as I hate his one weakness being mobility, its still fun seeing {{champion:54}} use q on you, just for you to have 0 mobility and him go mach 10 the opposite direction
: Nerf riot's champ creation team
I wouldn’t consider Sett has a broken champion. Probably one of the most balanced champs in release. Purely because he has lots of counterplay. His w/r is currently sub 50% atm
: I've had enough of rank.
42% w/r btw. Not because "your bad get good" its because people don't understand communication and other shit
Morbys (NA)
: The state of jungle
Welcome to the jungle, mind looking at my 42% w/r in ranked because even if I carry, teams will feed and i'm still 40 levels below everyone XD [https://oce.op.gg/summoner/userName=22%20Caliber%20Rifle](https://oce.op.gg/summoner/userName=22%20Caliber%20Rifle)
: 2 hyper carries that aren't affected enough by getting shut down early
rujitra (NA)
: Maybe you should focus on improving your skill instead of just blaming others for everything?
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ws5uAXm3,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2020-01-18T18:30:48.130+0000) > > Maybe you should focus on improving your skill instead of just blaming others for everything? This is one of those comments which is straight boring to read and highly non-intellectual but for your sake I’ll express my opinions on your so called “Just get better” nonsense. At the end of the day improving on your skill comes down to a few factors, whether you are willing to the improve at the game and whether you gain experience from bad games of such people who run it down or those where you make a mistake and should reflect and take actions upon. Improving is one of those things that I take upon not too seriously but To a certain extent. That’s extent is players who create problematic situations that cause outcome such in games. Now you can say that you just need to improve soo much that you 1v9 every single game, that’s absolute nonsense. In any given scenario being a ranked game your team mates factor out what can and will happen in that match based on their decisions. It just happens to be that the majority of my games there is very little communication, map awareness, macro or etc. Little things like can you ward said buff or anywhere so I can make strategic plays on the map instead of falling behind. They will not do such thing. I’m the carry and can’t do anything your a bronze jungler so you know fuck all. In regards to communication. Hey you guys have prio in bot and mid Andy jungle is top, mind taking dragon. Nope I can’t help you. *Gets attacked I need river contesting scuttle* bot laners have prio, you guys mind helping me equal out the playing field. Which then the enemy team arrives first instead of them?. The general argument here is that yes you improve your skills and become much better at your role but ultimately if your wishes to do what they like you are going to probably lose the game unless you manage to pull off a miracle. I can no joke count how many times I would play almost perfectly early game in the jungle. Successfully gang multiple lanes, secure dragon early, deny the enemy jungle XP just to lose it to my Ashe playing Ashe top literally running it under enemy tower then proceeding to blame me for not ganking? Yes the argument here is that you set up a counter gank but if they are running it. What’s the point. I’ve have plenty of games where I would lose buffs at the start of the game due to the lack of vision even though I kindly asked. Another thing on top of that is when players refuse to help take objectives in which the team who had 0 vision and no prio appears for no apparent reason. I die and the team blames me? *Ill edit this later* currently busy. Overall you should understand what I’m saying
: So no one has any issue with caitlyn at all?
I feel that the champion is broken when it comes to laning phase although I still think its got to do with {{item:3095}}
Unker139 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=22 Caliber Rifle,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ws5uAXm3,comment-id=,timestamp=2020-01-18T14:00:31.689+0000) > > [https://oce.op.gg/summoner/userName=22%20Caliber%20Rifle](https://oce.op.gg/summoner/userName=22%20Caliber%20Rifle) > > Currently: > Silver IV - 41% w/r - [ 29 wins - 42 Losses ] > > Now your wondering wow, how is this kid not in Iron or bronze yet from his match history and win rate alone, I can tell you that it has nothing to do with my performance what so ever this also includes the games where I go negative and show worse scores then my team. The results for my losses is straight bad team mates. Over the past 1 week I have had 4 or 5 games where team mates would utilize pings, correct communication, good micro and good macro as well as performing well and supporting the team. The other 95% of my games is constant feeding and 0 communication across the board with my teams and it really makes me question wtf is Riot doing with their match making. > > I presume all they see is, oh this guy has a bad win rate that influences your MMR and yet he's performing extraordinarily well for his games even though he's losing 95% of them. Lets try to give him more bad team mates to accelerate the losing streak. This is both unfun and unrighteous to do. You may be thinking that even though the majority of the player base for the past 2 - 3 years have been asking for match making fixes and the release of the hidden MMR system. They are all iron to gold players so their opinion does not matter. If that the case, grow the fuck up and look at the big picture. Its not even just ranked in general anymore. It also includes the entire game as a whole, you continue to ignore what players ask for as well as pretending at the same time by utilizing videos, ask riot dev blogs and etc but realistically you don't give a shit. > > Back to the original topic. Now a clear contributing factor to probably why I lose games is that jungle as a role role sucks real ass atm, and since I one trick the role and go at least 3/0 + kills before 15 mins probably makes it more obvious that the role sucks. This does exclude broken champions of such tryndamere, fiora, ekko, kai'sa and so many more which are in dire needs of nerfs. > > For those who don't give a fuck about reading this because im a Silver players and have no say cause I'm shit at the game here are a few notes: > > * MMR / Matchmaking is broken > * Champions are too saturated (Overpowered) > * Jungle Role sucks ass > * Riots very little influence in supporting its players > > > Final notes I have and alt that *used* to be Plat III but is now Silver II and is in the same situation as my main...... that's why I have started another smurf account :|. If you need to post something relevant go for it. Hopefully it helps me climb Don't blame your teammates. It's because you have the number 2 in your name. Riot has decided that you will lose most of your games. Your teammates are perfectly fine, but riot takes over their games and their skill shot automatically miss and their damage is reduced by 50%. They are good players but riot has decided that they need have bad games.....all because you have been singled out. Maybe next time choose a name without a 2 in it.
> [{quoted}](name=Unker139,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ws5uAXm3,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2020-01-18T14:29:23.112+0000) > > Don't blame your teammates. It's because you have the number 2 in your name. Riot has decided that you will lose most of your games. > > Your teammates are perfectly fine, but riot takes over their games and their skill shot automatically miss and their damage is reduced by 50%. They are good players but riot has decided that they need have bad games.....all because you have been singled out. > > Maybe next time choose a name without a 2 in it. Am I missing something, what is the relevance of the number "2". What influence does it have on my games specifically, why does it "target" me. In all seriousness I like the sarcasm but the majority of my games are generally decided whether my team wants to feed or not listen
: I think Riot has it out for you Keep pulling at that thread and bust the conspiracy WIDE open
> [{quoted}](name=ApothNinja,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ws5uAXm3,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2020-01-18T14:03:23.318+0000) > > I think Riot has it out for you > > Keep pulling at that thread and bust the conspiracy WIDE open I feel riot has always had it out for me, very recently I got my first ever chat restriction purely because defending myself and proving a point that my team is shit is chat restriction prevalent. Its also a coincidence that when ever I disclose my new alts in general they immediately start losing games consistently. Overall clearly i'm just a bad player if a Plat III cant get out of Silver. Although it does bring the light particular issues with high elo players who also can not win low elo games depending on the players and their role. Jungle as that role is not a carry role anymore. Its a role built on whether who gets lv 6 first and if so cool..... you achieved absolutely fuck all because a junglers influence is 0 unless you start feeding your ass off. This results in your team flaming you 24/7 even if you do hard carry them. Another thing to note is that even that it may seem like a massive conspiracy, as a large indie company (not small), Riot is not going to disclose particular small issues unless it becomes a major problem in regards to player health, economic growth or etc. They have yet and never had admitted to their problems even through videos where that apologies for the mistakes they have made. They never will and forever never care at all. If I don't own stakes with in the company I am as a player who plays and wishes to communicate problems to Riot "**Irrelevant"** For a final note I'll reference this: "Being good at playing a certain character in a video game is valuable, but I think I'll take the 200+ collective years of professional game design experience" - Nathan Lutz @RiotLutzburg"
Rioter Comments
: Was plat through out my whole career of lol... placed silver 2
Same here. My Main was Gold II and got Silver IV while my Plat III alt got Silver II and both cant climb. Working on another smurf atm :|
: > [{quoted}](name=catch this work,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HcwOvELs,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2020-01-17T06:27:53.628+0000) > > {{champion:245}} {{champion:56}} {{champion:111}} {{champion:432}} {{champion:89}} {{champion:107}} {{champion:18}} {{champion:60}} {{champion:36}} {{champion:121}} {{champion:35}} {{champion:134}} {{champion:61}} {{champion:412}} {{champion:555}} {{champion:114}} {{champion:22}} > > You're new around these parts, aren't you OP.... Im fine with some trist buffs. Removing E passive would be perfect imo:)
No trist buffs..... her w has 0 counter play and she outputs a lot of dmg from early to late
Rioter Comments
: Sett's fun...
I kinda wished he was slightly better as a Jungler although overall his design is fairly decent even if he gets hard countered by Malphite only bc of his Q slow
: I could see Sett being a good jungler with his Q in particular.
Am I really the only person who thinks his clear is good?
: I've seen brand new setts in ranked right off the bat and they do decent with him not really that hard to play from the looks
Well let me rephrase what I have said. Do not play him in low elo you bronze kids.... done XD. In all seriousness his skill expression is fairly low I've just had too many people today think they should play him and absolutely get abolished in lane, blame me the jungler and promote how they are a Sett god and how they should play him over me even though some one who is an intellect such as I is shit at the game :|. I can tell you that I've played more games of Sett then all the people in my games today mostly from PBE. The idea here is to play him in Normals not Ranked. Like.... use your head?
Rioter Comments
IVSakenz (NA)
: Riot has killed Scaling champs with Super Damage..
{{champion:13}} Me big skill champion {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
Eybdoog (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=22 Caliber Rifle,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=eP1ieTcr,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2020-01-13T07:54:55.243+0000) > > [https://oce.op.gg/summoner/userName=22%20Caliber%20Rifle](https://oce.op.gg/summoner/userName=22%20Caliber%20Rifle) > > I'll leave this here. My ranked experience. Nothing to do with me..... all teams The team with the worst player (weakest link) loses. It has nothing to do with how good you are unless you are vastly superior but then that begs the question why would you be at your current rank?
> [{quoted}](name=Eybdoog,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=eP1ieTcr,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2020-01-13T16:49:28.921+0000) > > The team with the worst player (weakest link) loses. It has nothing to do with how good you are unless you are vastly superior but then that begs the question why would you be at your current rank? In all seriousness if we talk about the weakest link, in most cases in a losing game I would be the worst player. Reasons for this is because even if all your lanes fall behind at least they have some form of way to keep up in farm, XP and etc while the Jungler which would be me gets punished for the BS that I've had to put up with. A good example of this was when I was playing Kha'zix vs Rengar. At one point I was trying to communicate across the team the main priorities, securing objectives, gaining kills, lots of CS and etc. At this point I had a good lead although due to the horrible mid and bot lane, they kept feeding there ass's off to the Rengar and laners which indefinitely made me lost JG, die every time I re spawned, lose CS massively and a lot of XP. It sucks going 11/4 at the start of the game to then go 11/12 and be lv 15 while our team who fed their ass's off be lv 17+
Zyniya (NA)
: That doesn't look like "carry extremely hard" unless you're the JG Rengar?
It’s hard to communicate what happened in that game without video proof. More or less my team just continued running down which resulted in the loss of my jungle and inevitabably the entire game. A lot of horrible map awareness and etc caused the score of 11/12. Doesn’t help that jg XP is absolute dog shit. It then comes down to if the enemy team has better prio you lose the game while quite the opposite if we were winning I’ll add on to this later. Long story short some people just ruin games. Just look at the other games. 1 game never proves that I’m shit
iiGazeii (NA)
: I would rather rank be accurate than try to make me climb
[https://oce.op.gg/summoner/userName=22%20Caliber%20Rifle](https://oce.op.gg/summoner/userName=22%20Caliber%20Rifle) I'll leave this here. My ranked experience. Nothing to do with me..... all teams
KaramTNC (EUW)
: LvL 30s ranked smurfing
I agree with you and will admit that I for one smurf. Currently I have 0 motivation to play on my 2 accounts but am now working on another Smurf as its more enjoyable. To note: * My main was Gold II with extremely horrible MMR and w/r. Now Silver III and declining * My alt is lv 50 and was Plat III. Now Silver II. Used to have a 56% w/r which is now a 45% w/r The smurf I'm working on is now Silver 1 and climbing because much better MMR. I understand people absolutely hate smurfs but this is one of many reasons why I do it. In most cases just blame Riot for people smurfing.
: Ranked match making
[https://oce.op.gg/summoner/userName=22%20Caliber%20Rifle](https://oce.op.gg/summoner/userName=22%20Caliber%20Rifle) I'll just leave this here. Riot fix your game? Last year my main which is this one was Gold II and my alt was Plat III. Both are now SIlver and cannot climb out of Gold. Currently working on another smurf account just for the sake of not wanting to deal with this shit. People can say that you need to get good or you are not a Plat III player and so on. Only comment when you've experienced how boring ranked is. To add on, I'm a Jungle one trick. The role sucks
: I 100% agree with this. There have been so many times where I would completely shit on diana and shut her down in lane but then after 15 mins shes the most broken champ and 1 shots every champ in the game.
Agreed as well. As someone who plays her JG, its a very similar outcome although I cannot win games because of bad teams
: The solution to low elo players no longer being terrible
https://i.imgur.com/y1f1pjR.png[/img] Basically my ranked games. I will carry extremely hard then lose because my teams are complete dog shit. This game in particular OP.gg says I came last. This is fairly inaccurate because clearly the game doesn't put into account how stupid people c an be in which at the end of the day it see's that I was lv 15 at 35 minutes while EVERYONE was lv 17 or 18. A common problem where there is no JG catch up XP
: Unfortunately, in a case like this you just have to play through it, Win streaks like that significantly boost MMR, so it's gonna take a bit, but you're by no means stuck, so that's good news! It very well could be that your previous performance just kinda sunk your MMR, even through a few soft resets. It's annoying, I agree, but it's just the way MMR works sadly. Looks like just about everyone got placed low though, I think it has to do with "Make High ELO Great Again!", have all the top at the top, and if you're not, you have to be much more consistently good to climb. Sort of weeds people out that got carried to their ranks, but that's just a theory
But getting win streaks is basically impossible with bad teammates or if you play Jungle like myself
Rioter Comments
: Uhhh… So LP is actually growing and its weird but the identification of position doesn't change in placements. What you suffered from was the lowering of your average game play. Once we start earning 20LP, the system is saying that it believes that this is the ELO we're capable of. Apparently it's based off of what we can pull off alone and as a team on the map compared to your enemy, to stats of that ELO, and simple status quo comparatively- collectively as an average. What I mean by this is, well, dependent on your game's length and the champ you pick. If the game end before 21 minuets, kept a high CS average vs everyone in the ELO (including for that champ specifically and your enemy as well as the average), good vision count, kill participation, and objective control count as a crit marksman then you'll be placed higher and gain at least 40 LP. The reason why someone would lose out on gaining LP is when the player does less with any of these factors and is also heavily factored upon which team is better, yours of theirs. If you're left side (lower map) then you're going up a harder enemy of higher rank. If you're right (upper) side of the map, then you're the harder team up against the easy team. Just about each game goes 1 for 1. The reason why I say this is because this effects the LP growth as well. If you're on the upper right side and do well, your LP most likely is meant to be a system identifier about growth and if you're correctly assigned to your ELO. If you're lower left side and do even better, then you're more likely to gain LP and move on. If you lose on either side and don't keep good game stats, your LP will plummet pretty hard, but if you win with bad game stats, you can still lose out on LP. LP is basically a number that indicates your climb. Plus, the creators did say that they were going to be a bit tougher on ranks soooo... yeah.
Basically if you get trash team mates say good bye to your LP and MMR :|. I already have a 40% w/r which has nothing to do with me. Its all my team. Can easily prove it as well
: Ranked just feels bad
Exact same feeling. I find that the main issue is that people who deserve higher ranks are been held down due to immediate losses. Not saying this because im a jealous piece of shit who should be Challenger, but saying it from the perspective of a player that has to hard carry games and still lose because some people cannot compute with the game and refuse to do anything but blame each other and pretend to be gods at the game. I for one complain a lot but I have every right too. Another factor is the BS champs in this game that feel boring to play against
Rioter Comments
: From what I've been told by people who are already high up there, this won't change until you finish placements. I've had the same issue and I kept about a platinum status (still am trying to) during my placements. At the moment, I've lost only 2 games, played 5 and it still says I'm only Iron 2. So don't worry about it. Just finish it and then grind like the rest of us do, it best keeps the toxicity trigger away entirely. Best of luck! {{sticker:poppy-wink}}
I feel your pain although it has nothing to do with that. I've just finished my placements in which I'm not too happy about tbh. The issue is that I managed to lose LP from winning a game? Game 1 - Silver III 46 LP Game 2 - Silver III 39 LP Doesn't make any sense. To add on, apparently I can win 26 LP in provisionals? now I finished at 96 LP Silver III. Do note I have an account at Platinum III in 2019 and this one was Gold II? 0 logic
Rioter Comments
: Imagine helping your jungle during the scuttle fight, only for your jungler to burn flash while failing to kill enemy jungler, invades right after instead of taking the free scuttle, and dies in enemy jungle since he has no escape. Why is the most important role in the game flooded with morons {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
> [{quoted}](name=2Charmnot2Charm,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=XXeEbunJ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2020-01-11T02:35:00.287+0000) > > Imagine helping your jungle during the scuttle fight, only for your jungler to burn flash while failing to kill enemy jungler, invades right after instead of taking the free scuttle, and dies in enemy jungle since he has no escape. > > Why is the most important role in the game flooded with morons {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} He's a man of culture and sophistication XD. In all seriousness as a JG main the role sucks ass. Even someone who doesn't play Jungle at all can 1v9 if the conditions are met.
: Champions I never want to see in my games ever again.
For me, its got to the point where the champions I play against are not tilt worthy, cancer, no skilled or etc anymore. They have become what I define as **"Boring"**. I'm not one to get pissed off often so that term best describes them. Here's my of **"boring"** list: {{champion:84}} {{champion:63}} {{champion:105}} {{champion:39}} {{champion:59}} {{champion:145}} {{champion:55}} {{champion:7}} {{champion:64}}{{champion:99}} {{champion:90}} {{champion:11}} {{champion:25}} {{champion:555}} {{champion:246}} {{champion:92}} {{champion:13}} {{champion:17}} {{champion:91}} {{champion:18}} {{champion:23}} {{champion:67}} {{champion:8}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:350}} {{champion:238}} {{champion:142}} {{champion:143}}.{{champion:114}} {{champion:105}} {{champion:30}} {{champion:51}} {{champion:81}} {{champion:21}} Now I know this is basically every champion and it may seem that I'm biased towards the champions I play in particular, Kha'zix, Kayn, Rengar, Ivern and etc. This is my list of non interesting champions. If it came down to perma bans. {{champion:64}} will always be there because he's boring. Here's a tier list from most boring to least boring (S-D) (Not in order) **S** {{champion:64}} {{champion:7}} {{champion:8}} **A** {{champion:84}} {{champion:114}} {{champion:39}} {{champion:92}} {{champion:99}} {{champion:23}} {{champion:25}} **B** {{champion:157}} {{champion:238}} {{champion:13}} {{champion:105}} {{champion:145}} {{champion:67}} {{champion:51}}{{champion:246}} **C** {{champion:91}} {{champion:350}} {{champion:142}} {{champion:18}} {{champion:555}} {{champion:63}} {{champion:55}} {{champion:90}} **D** {{champion:30}} {{champion:17}} {{champion:11}} {{champion:81}} {{champion:59}} {{champion:21}}{{champion:143}}
: 💬 C&C Discord -- [Information & Verification]
: Same problem for about 2 patches now. Another problem on the last 2 patches is that the client will randomly slow to a crawl and will take about 4-5 seconds to register that a button was clicked. Even on a super computer. The only solution is to restart the client until it happens again.
Exactly the same issue here with the slow client. A few other things * All my friends have the championship Kha'zix splash art as there profile background? * If the above problem doesn't work it says everyone in my friends list is offline, with the status "#" * Client still crashes every so often with in the pre-game load in * Champ select music and animations just stopped working all together? ( I love static images ) * Your profile / Match history refuses to load ( potential server issue ) * Black screen on client homepage normally after finishing a game or not touching the client for a long period of time * Champion capsules like to go on vacation sometimes and appear early in my collection when I haven't even leveled up? * Client likes to randomly freeze for no apparent reason, ping spike when my ping still says 50? ( Incorrect UI being displayed? ), adding on the client feels clunky in game * Party issues, Sometimes it will say im in a party when I'm not in it which results in me not being able to join it. E.g. 3/5 Lobby but the client says i'm in it although im able to create another game? ( Incorrect UI being displayed, server latency issues? ) * In game champion display issue? - Sometimes a champion will be walking at a normal pace of 350 MS then all the sudden speed in a random direction. ( Closely resembling teleportation? ) * Slow Client * Ping issues / packet loss
Rioter Comments
: I agree the jungle blows right now people like to say "oh just adapt" or "this lets junglers show skill expression by being better than the enemy jungle at jungle pathing" but lets be real most of the population in league is plat or lower and pathing just does not exist in these elos. The jungle change was made specifically for dia+ and LCS to show mastery of the jungle and i'm sorry but that does not work for all elos. The average player should not instantly lose a game because they failed a gank and are now 2 levels down, it's just not really fair there there is virtually zero room for error. I have personally stopped jg after 6+ years because this shit feel absolutely terrible to play and sadly i won't be playing my main role in ranked next season. You know why jg is the "most impactful role"? Because it takes 1 fucking mistake to ruin the entire game for your team so yes it is the "most impactful role" in that sense.
In relation to this. As a jungle one trick it is much better to clear your camps ensuring you have at least slain the gromp once and Krugs once / twice depending on pathing then walk into a lane and take farm, apply pressure by just sitting there. Gain level 5 or 6. Reset to your jungle clearing it again leaving behind krugs then invading.... In short never clear your krugs after the first clear. They are a waste of time as well as been the furtherest camp from dragon pit. If you really want to, you can sit your blue side all game with out clearing top and you will be fine as long as you gank. Another note, it’s just better to take your lanes XP after hitting level 4. It benefits you more then the enemy jungler who clears only their camps. It also brings upon the topic of early game junglers been more relevant then ever
rujitra (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=22 Caliber Rifle,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=W7criv8e,comment-id=00000007,timestamp=2019-12-16T03:25:27.277+0000) > > every time this guy post on the forums he gets -20 plus down votes. Mate, think about what you type before you post? This is a prime example of why Riot **doesn't** come to the boards to discuss. People like yourself who think that getting even 100 downvotes from likely duplicate/botted accounts - this little out of **hundreds of millions of monthly players** means anything at all. You use this as an echo chamber to tell yourself you're right instead of actually discussing meaningful change and understanding that 100/100*million* isn't anything. Even if you consider all the people who've ever commented or voted on a topic, you're still much less than 10k on any given topic - which is less than 1% of the community - and it is *certain* that it's not a representative sample of the community since those most likely to use the boards will be those people who have the most issues. As another person pointed out in another thread... do you call your ISP every day and tell them "yo, thx for the working internet today"? No. But every time it goes down even once you complain. Never mind that it worked for 99.9% of other people - it didn't work for you at that time so you complain. Likewise, internet forums suffer from this sort of "extremism" in that people with more negative views of something are more likely to be expressing it than those without - leading to something that looks like a "consensus" when in reality it's only a consensus among that small proportion who have the problem. Put bluntly, even if 5000 people came to the boards and all of them complained about the same thing, there's tens of millions more that **didn't** - many of whom either like it the way it is (so feel no need to waste time talking about it) or who don't see it as a big enough issue to care about (thus don't come post about it). Riot can gather data that is more representative of the community with quick in-client surveys and email surveys. Yes, those suffer from the same sorts of "negative response bias", but there's been studies done on internet forums that show the level of negative response bias is much higher on internet forums than in true surveys.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=W7criv8e,comment-id=000000070000,timestamp=2019-12-16T03:59:21.271+0000) > > This is a prime example of why Riot **doesn't** come to the boards to discuss. People like yourself who think that getting even 100 downvotes from likely duplicate/botted accounts - this little out of **hundreds of millions of monthly players** means anything at all. You use this as an echo chamber to tell yourself you're right instead of actually discussing meaningful change and understanding that 100/100*million* isn't anything. > > Even if you consider all the people who've ever commented or voted on a topic, you're still much less than 10k on any given topic - which is less than 1% of the community - and it is *certain* that it's not a representative sample of the community since those most likely to use the boards will be those people who have the most issues. > > As another person pointed out in another thread... do you call your ISP every day and tell them "yo, thx for the working internet today"? No. But every time it goes down even once you complain. Never mind that it worked for 99.9% of other people - it didn't work for you at that time so you complain. Likewise, internet forums suffer from this sort of "extremism" in that people with more negative views of something are more likely to be expressing it than those without - leading to something that looks like a "consensus" when in reality it's only a consensus among that small proportion who have the problem. > > Put bluntly, even if 5000 people came to the boards and all of them complained about the same thing, there's tens of millions more that **didn't** - many of whom either like it the way it is (so feel no need to waste time talking about it) or who don't see it as a big enough issue to care about (thus don't come post about it). Riot can gather data that is more representative of the community with quick in-client surveys and email surveys. Yes, those suffer from the same sorts of "negative response bias", but there's been studies done on internet forums that show the level of negative response bias is much higher on internet forums than in true surveys. ok?
: Me: I can't wait to Jungle in Clash!
Every time I play clash, they ban my Kha'zix.... I dont even play him lol
rujitra (NA)
: Maybe come to terms with the fact that a very vocal minority is still a minority. Riot isn’t going to listen to the boards when it contradicts their properly done statistical sampling of the community as a whole.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=W7criv8e,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-15T12:43:46.665+0000) > > Maybe come to terms with the fact that a very vocal minority is still a minority. Riot isn’t going to listen to the boards when it contradicts their properly done statistical sampling of the community as a whole. every time this guy post on the forums he gets -20 plus down votes. Mate, think about what you type before you post?
: You Know What I Hate The Most About Jungling?
{{champion:64}} this is all I will say. Most broken boring shit in the game
: adding to the list : cant ban a champion can't select a champion to play post game screen stuck on loading can't give honors loot page never loads in client so I have to open RP shop, load that, then go into my loot page can't escape champ select when it freezes up, have to exit client which = a dodge even though I did not want to dodge the client doesn't even recognize when an error occurs that is beyond your control
> [{quoted}](name=Waka FIocka,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=RWAwM69w,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-14T22:36:13.612+0000) > > adding to the list : > > cant ban a champion > can't select a champion to play > post game screen stuck on loading > can't give honors > loot page never loads in client so I have to open RP shop, load that, then go into my loot page > can't escape champ select when it freezes up, have to exit client which = a dodge even though I did not want to dodge > > the client doesn't even recognize when an error occurs that is beyond your control Let me add to your list. Some Repeats: * All my friends have the championship Kha'zix splash art as there profile background? * If the above problem doesn't work it says everyone in my friends list is offline, with the status "#" * Client still crashes every so often with in the pre-game load in * Champ select music and animations just stopped working all together? ( I love static images ) * Your profile / Match history refuses to load ( potential server issue ) * Black screen on client homepage normally after finishing a game or not touching the client for a long period of time * Champion capsules like to go on vacation sometimes and appear early in my collection when I haven't even leveled up? * Client likes to randomly freeze for no apparent reason, ping spike when my ping still says 50? ( Incorrect UI being displayed? ), adding on the client feels clunky in game * Party issues, Sometimes it will say im in a party when I'm not in it which results in me not being able to join it. E.g. 3/5 Lobby but the client says i'm in it although im able to create another game? ( Incorrect UI being displayed, server latency issues? ) * In game champion display issue? - Sometimes a champion will be walking at a normal pace of 350 MS then all the sudden speed in a random direction. * ( Closely resembling teleportation? ) * End of game stats, stays like that for 2 years * Client will become extremely slow at responding to mouse input
: > [{quoted}](name=Cind3rkick,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=V5k4n9YG,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-12-14T23:35:18.244+0000) > > anyone 3 levels behind solo laners is doing something wrong. Either ganking heavily or constanty clearing jungle easily keeps you ahead of your duo laners and sometimes can even be ahead of solo laners. What are you even talking about? You won't even go near the JG in ranked. I hope you keep getting autofilled, cause the junglers are leaving. Just to drive the point in I'll be dodging all JG autofills from now on. Not gonna enable riot by allowing them to force me to play it and help hold up what's been a total failure of a JG rework. They need to be forced to fix it since they otherwise don't seem to care and wont even comment on it.
I have to agree with this. Jungle is an absolutely shit role and as someone who stays dedicated to playing it as a one trick something needs to be done. With the exception of Dragons and JG XP some champions just boring to play against. Its a surprise when Riot says and I quote; "These changes will stop early game ganking and will give leads to players who continue to farm jungle". This statement is a fucking joke. Currently the idea is to quickly clear your jg, get 3 ensuring you have Gromp, then gank a lane and take all the farm. You will get level 6 prior to 6 mins. Perpetrators: {{champion:64}} {{champion:2}} {{champion:245}} {{champion:59}} {{champion:11}} {{champion:104}} BTW if you tell me that these champs are skill...... just dont play
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