: The only thing you proved is that you do not understand the ranking system. Stop looking at the fucking ranks, they are not revelant, the only important part is the MMR. Also : - The Yi is bronze 1 (not bronze 3, it seems that op.gg was a bit behind) - The Yi is premade with kiss of noob who was the pyke (Silver 2) So it seems that Bronze 1 + Silver 2 = around Silver 3, Nothing weird in that. But still, you should not look at ranks. The matchmaking does NOT look at ranks and never looked at ranks. It just checks MMR.
> [{quoted}](name=Starcraft243ver,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=731dEOgN,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-08-22T15:22:50.200+0000) > > The only thing you proved is that you do not understand the ranking system. Stop looking at the fucking ranks, they are not revelant, the only important part is the MMR. > > Also : > - The Yi is bronze 1 (not bronze 3, it seems that op.gg was a bit behind) > - The Yi is premade with kiss of noob who was the pyke (Silver 2) > > So it seems that Bronze 1 + Silver 2 = around Silver 3, > > Nothing weird in that. > > But still, you should not look at ranks. The matchmaking does NOT look at ranks and never looked at ranks. It just checks MMR. Puke? There was not a pyke in this match
: Nice Yorick {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}} Also there are approximately 218k players that are ranked on the OCE server last I heard and not necessarily active players. There's a high chance that the matchmaking system just wants you to get in game. What are your typical queue times? Here it's about 30+s at lower ranks. Doesn't excuse that the system doesn't shuffle those players within that game to make it more even though.
> [{quoted}](name=Z3Sleepier,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=731dEOgN,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-22T08:46:39.700+0000) > > Nice Yorick {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}} > > Also there are approximately 218k players that are ranked on the OCE server last I heard and not necessarily active players. There's a high chance that the matchmaking system just wants you to get in game. > > What are your typical queue times? Here it's about 30+s at lower ranks. > > Doesn't excuse that the system doesn't shuffle those players within that game to make it more even though. Queue times average around 2 mins for me. Is that considered a long wait compared to NA?
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=AlphaHighlander,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AiAi20J2,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-08-15T17:51:47.004+0000) > > Learn to speak English before calling Riot "rito". It just makes you look like a bafoon fishing for upvotes. I didn't say that I need upvotes I just discuss how they have bots to control the ban system instead of real people, I cant get anything by getting upvotes so I don't even need it I don't say riot bcs I am used calling them like that, I knew that people without friends with no life will defend rito, I said it again what are u gonna do about it huh cry more, or you are jealous that I have friends, plus you are playing from Oceania I can understand why you don't get what im saying.
> [{quoted}](name=IWantAGamingPc,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AiAi20J2,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-08-15T18:27:47.514+0000) > > I didn't say that I need upvotes I just discuss how they have bots to control the ban system instead of real people, I cant get anything by getting upvotes so I don't even need it I don't say riot bcs I am used calling them like that, I knew that people without friends with no life will defend rito, I said it again what are u gonna do about it huh cry more, or you are jealous that I have friends, plus you are playing from Oceania I can understand why you don't get what im saying. Because I'm from Oceania I don't understand? What, do you think I'm Asian or something? I'm Australian and as an English-speaking Aussie, I think your post is massive pile of grammatical mess.
: Could you please fix this when you lose game
First mistake you made was playing TFT
SEKAI (OCE)
: Welcome to AAA gaming, I hope you enjoy your stay. It's the land of the desperate, and full of 0 considerate. It's the cash they'll grab, and next to nothing you've got. Where the greed is good, and the lowest they'll stoop. Triple AAAyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyye! ........ Nowadays I just enjoy my time in Hollow Knight, a very good indie game where all updates/expansions (which there have been like 4(?) expansions to the initial release) are completely and utterly free. The only extra charges besides the base game is if you want to buy the soundtrack. That's it. I have some complaints with some of the bosses here and there and all that, but one thing I can say for absolute certain, that the game's pricing I can only say "hot damn!"
> [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qjE4nlt4,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-15T04:59:22.484+0000) > > Welcome to AAA gaming, I hope you enjoy your stay. > > It's the land of the desperate, and full of 0 considerate. > > It's the cash they'll grab, and next to nothing you've got. > > Where the greed is good, and the lowest they'll stoop. > > Triple AAAyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyye! > > ........ > > Nowadays I just enjoy my time in Hollow Knight, a very good indie game where all updates/expansions (which there have been like 4(?) expansions to the initial release) are completely and utterly free. The only extra charges besides the base game is if you want to buy the soundtrack. That's it. > > I have some complaints with some of the bosses here and there and all that, but one thing I can say for absolute certain, that the game's pricing I can only say "hot damn!" I'm surprised the mods haven't removed your comment for "advertising".
: You had Swain adc and didnt dodge. "nothing i could do" I guess..
> [{quoted}](name=ChrisBrownze,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sQcz4ALt,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-14T08:25:01.039+0000) > > You had Swain adc and didnt dodge. "nothing i could do" I guess.. Swain bot sn't necessarily bad, and it isn't an indication that he was gonna troll tbh
: > [{quoted}](name=AlphaHighlander,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=LQ8OJwnP,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-14T08:51:18.092+0000) > > No one hates Nocturne? Nah man, he is hated by a decent portion of the playerbase, he's just not as bad as other cancers. > > But he is one of my most hated champions. If he gets ahead early, he just spam ults every lane and his whole team gets ahead. > > If a Fed Nocturne wants to kill you, you will die. That's definitely the reason I hate him with a fiery passion. Noct ult has a reasonable cooldown though. He can't just spam gank lanes like nunu
> [{quoted}](name=M Schumacher,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=LQ8OJwnP,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-08-14T08:55:55.850+0000) > > Noct ult has a reasonable cooldown though. He can't just spam gank lanes like nunu That being said, when I hear his ult go off i still curl up in the fetal position with my thumb in my mouth
: Nocturne just got buffed
No one hates Nocturne? Nah man, he is hated by a decent portion of the playerbase, he's just not as bad as other cancers. But he is one of my most hated champions. If he gets ahead early, he just spam ults every lane and his whole team gets ahead. If a Fed Nocturne wants to kill you, you will die. That's definitely the reason I hate him with a fiery passion.
: How did this get me chat restricted for 10 games?
I wouldn't say you were toxic in the least. You vented at what sounded like two brainless monkeys who were dumping their bad performance on you. But just as p3tm4ster pointed out, you're just simply not allowed to talk like that way in chat, regardless of the circumstances. Do I think it's fair? Not at all. But this shit happens. Worst thing about this though is that those wackjobs most definitely slipped through the punishment system and are going to ruin more games.
: Game sometimes won't load
Yeah, it's been happening to a lot of us and it doesn't seem Riot has acknowledged it as far as I know. A tip though, when it freezes or decides to not launch the match open task manager and end the process of LeagueClient TM. As long as you only close the process with the "TM" at the end you should be able to click "reconnect" in the client without having to close everything down and waste time logging back in.
: Just had a game with a guy who thought he was god
Lol I don't know what his issue was, but he's got one heck of a complex going on. That or he was just high on crack
: A question about the names that are allowed in League
We should all feel safe knowing that you sir, are on the lookout for names that might (and I shudder to think) offend someone.
Rioter Comments
: When you solo kill the enemy Fiora
{{champion:75}} Did you just parry my cane? {{champion:114}} Hehehe {{champion:75}} *Turns on big boy mode "PARRY THIS!"
: When the support dies to ignite because the ADC didn't heal
Rioter Comments
: anyone have this
I'm sorry, but holy crap I laughed so hard while reading this. Jokes aside, how many hours are you playing per day?
GigglesO (NA)
: I hate to say it...
I think I speak for most people when I say that I'd much rather get one-shot by an assassin than a tank. Tank METAs are absolutely disgusting. At least with assassins, they pop like balloons when they step out of line or get caught out.
Hüts (NA)
: Could someone help me fix this problem? Please
I don't know if this will fix it, but go into the folder where League is installed (usually found in C:/Programs x86/Riot Games/League of Legends) and delete everything including the folder containing it. Restart your computer and then try to reinstall it. If this still does not work, go into your registry and manually remove any trace of League of Legends. You can download a program called CCleaner that will delete any unused or corrupted registry files on your computer if you don't know how to manually remove the League registry files. Hope this helps.
: actually you aren't far off, i had an 80% winrate until i hit gold 4, as soon as i hit gold 4 my mmr tanked to silver 4, started playing with really interesting players on my teams, i've dodged so many games now i lose 19 lp per leave, but i still only gain 19 lp? awkward. my winrate dropped from 80 to 55% and now im playing with gold plats on the enemy team and silver low golds on my team. idk what to do
> [{quoted}](name=Kazemonogatari,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nXBhAOeV,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-03-03T15:11:14.957+0000) > > actually you aren't far off, i had an 80% winrate until i hit gold 4, as soon as i hit gold 4 my mmr tanked to silver 4, started playing with really interesting players on my teams, i've dodged so many games now i lose 19 lp per leave, but i still only gain 19 lp? awkward. my winrate dropped from 80 to 55% and now im playing with gold plats on the enemy team and silver low golds on my team. idk what to do That's the thing I don't get about the match making. You have an MMR of a plat player (for example) while climbing in silver/gold. So instead of matching you WITH and AGAINST players of the same MMR, it flips the fuck out and thinks you're capable of carrying gold players while up against plat/diamonds. Coz that makes total sense right? It seems you need to be 2 ranks higher than your current rank just to climb, and that is not how professional ranking should work
: No one cares but i'm not having fun playing this shit
Get yourself addicted to Warframe...you'll feel less shitty playing that lol
LEAFERA (EUNE)
: when i see the enemy jungler in river coming for me, but the cannon is low HP
: I'll go ahead and say it. With how conqueror currently works... Master Yi is broken. Conqueror gives more true damage on top of the true damage Yi already gets, and on top of that it gives him more AD and absurd amounts of healing. Honestly if current iteration of Conqueror is to remain, I think Yi needs True Damage from his E removed, and changed to bonus magic damage (scaling with AD, like Irelia's passive) and remove attack speed boost from Yi's ultimate, giving a slight increase to movement speed. This at least makes him fair without hard gutting his entire identity. As insane is Yi's Q is (cooldown reducing with his basic attacks) it's not unreasonable. The stacking true damage and Conqueror is what makes him too much to handle.
> [{quoted}](name=ScarletVixen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=m3OqkVVW,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-03-02T03:27:46.408+0000) > > I'll go ahead and say it. With how conqueror currently works... Master Yi is broken. Conqueror gives more true damage on top of the true damage Yi already gets, and on top of that it gives him more AD and absurd amounts of healing. > > Honestly if current iteration of Conqueror is to remain, I think Yi needs True Damage from his E removed, and changed to bonus magic damage (scaling with AD, like Irelia's passive) and remove attack speed boost from Yi's ultimate, giving a slight increase to movement speed. This at least makes him fair without hard gutting his entire identity. > > As insane is Yi's Q is (cooldown reducing with his basic attacks) it's not unreasonable. The stacking true damage and Conqueror is what makes him too much to handle. I agree they should change his E to deal bonus magic dmg instead of it dealing true dmg, but definitely not remove his attack speed bonus from his ultimate. His ulti is the only time he can actually duel effectively. Maybe they should remove his attack speed slow immunity from his ultimate, so that he can actually be itemized against. Would make things fairer without completely gutting him.
: Either hard nerf Rengar or hard buff KhaZix
People that don't main Kha'zix will laugh at this. People get one-shot by him and think, "OMG plz Nerf". The truth is, Kha'zix is very weak atm. The only time he is useful is if he snowballs CRAZY HARD. If he isn't ahead, he is useless. If he's behind, you might as well just sit at fountain for the rest of the game. Rengar does Kha'zix's job much better, much safer, and he takes half the brain cells to master compared to Kha'zix. So while your post was a bit exaggerated, I agree with you. I bet half the people that think Kha is OP don't even know about his isolation mechanic
: me (plat 3, 57% wr) got a SILVER 1 36% WR PLAYER AUTOFILLED INTO MY ROLE ON MY TEAM (RANKED)
Gotta bring that 57% back down to a reasonable 50%. Riot can't have you stomping games when your skill clearly indicates you deserve to climb.
: How is Master Yi considered fair?
Yi is incredibly team reliant, requires 3 core items before he really takes off and he is terrible at initiating fights. Not to mention that his ganks are lackluster at best. Yes, he is very frustrating to deal with, especially once he gets rageblade. But if his team is behind, there is little to nothing he can do other than farm and splitpush. He does absolutely nothing for his team other than deal damage...that's it. A bad Yi will try to force team fights, get himself killed over and over and end with a score of 4/13/2. A good Yi, however, will bide his time and wait for the opportunity to strike. He will play it safe, will be behind in CS all game in some cases, but he knows that once the the enemy has blown all their cooldowns in a team fight...there is nothing left to do but activate Highlander and get a Penta. Such is the power of Yi.
: ADCs as their team peels for them
Have you ever experienced the pain of an enemy team with an adc that has 4 heavy peelers that literally do not leave her side after laning phase? I still suffer from PTSD because of it...
: can you guys stop queuing ranked while "drunk AF" or "high AF"?
Is it weird that I play better when I'm drunk tho? I specifically remember unlocking M7 on Yi and Tryndamere years ago drunk as a skunk.
: Who has .2 seconds reaction time.
If you are a champion like Lux or Morgana with a skillshot-based CC, buy Oracle Lens and watch that cat get blown up in .5 seconds from the rest of your team right as he leaps during his ultimate. His ultimate gives a decent amount of warning before he leaps. Their are definitely ways to avoid dying to him.
: > [{quoted}](name=GreenKnight,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bqpGFAHe,comment-id=00000000000000010000,timestamp=2019-02-26T00:19:54.144+0000) > > Yeah, i already had an encounter with you, and since you learned nothing from that, i don't think i need to talk to you anymore. > > And yes, i called you an asshole, based on how you behave and treat others. I'm an asshole but you're an asshole for calling me an asshole Asshole lol
> [{quoted}](name=GhostOfTsushima,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bqpGFAHe,comment-id=000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2019-02-26T00:20:45.405+0000) > > I'm an asshole but you're an asshole for calling me an asshole > > Asshole lol Wait, so if you are being an an asshole, then I'm an asshole for calling you an asshole? You don't make much sense my friend.
: I think I know where the overkill damage philosophy is coming from.
Fascinating! I don't play PoE all that much, but the comparisons are uncanny. So Tencent is infecting PoE with their damage creep bullshit just like they started to do to League all those years ago. Give em a couple of years and they will turn this wonderfully complicated and intricate game into a glorified flashy mobile game for their impatient chinese consumers.
damabevi (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Sexy Jack Rabbit,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oqAcMEkw,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-11-03T09:39:55.946+0000) > > Like mother, like son. the saying goes like this "like father like son" actually
> [{quoted}](name=damabevi,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oqAcMEkw,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-11-03T09:42:03.993+0000) > > the saying goes like this "like father like son" actually Eh, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
drash79 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Midg3t,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EME5uAm2,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2018-11-03T11:24:05.412+0000) > > He probably had chat restriction, that's why he didn't bitch and moan. Ooooh god. The day it gets off restriction. The day it's free. .....Free...........
> [{quoted}](name=drash79,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EME5uAm2,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2018-11-03T12:29:55.101+0000) > > Ooooh god. > The day it gets off restriction. > The day it's free. > .....Free........... Reeeeeeeeeeeeee {{champion:92}} "Gimme my fooookin Penta!"
Shazzbot69 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Taric the Gay,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=2VFunHRR,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-11-02T21:23:56.940+0000) > > Yeah, they look the same. Then again all females look equally repulsive to me. Maybe my opinion isn't the one you should be looking for. > > http://www.auplod.com/u/pdolua802d6.png Just because you are gay that doesn't mean you find the opposite sex replusive. I am straight and find some guys hot.
> [{quoted}](name=Shazzbot69,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=2VFunHRR,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-11-02T23:07:17.888+0000) > > Just because you are gay that doesn't mean you find the opposite sex replusive. I am straight and find some guys hot. Hmmmm that sounds gay haha. And I don't think he was being serious anyway, I mean, his summoner name is "Taric The Gay". Clearly he was going for a sarcastic tone.
: how about fuck off? you get a shit ton of tools to counter half his damn kit and then come on here to complain about how it's unfair he gets to keep the shrooms in the bush unless you position yourself decently.
> [{quoted}](name=Jerry SeinfeId,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5sa8llzw,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-10-28T13:06:21.569+0000) > > how about fuck off? you get a shit ton of tools to counter half his damn kit and then come on here to complain about how it's unfair he gets to keep the shrooms in the bush unless you position yourself decently. Weren't you the guy who made a post about merging EU an NA boards? One guy pointed out you guys from EU are toxic. And here you are, telling someone else to f*** off over a difference in opinion. Maybe you should go back to EU boards where toxicity seems to be allowed.
: was in my wow discord but this also applies in league
I can understand WoW having as many bugs as it does, it is a massive game with much more complicated protocols than league. You cannot compare League to WoW when it comes to its code, WoW is in an entirely different league (no pun intended). Riot just writes sloppy code.
: On the recent patch notes why is Ashe labelled as a 'marksperson' and not correctly as a 'marksman'
Shouldn't be too surprised, have you guys forgotten about the whole PAX fiasco Riot pulled? They are catering to gender politics and political correctness. Basically one giant virtue signal. Might as well call them EA 2.0.
: The hard truth ;~;
Does Google actually bring up Satan's age? Since when did Google have the definitive answer to such a bizarre question?!? {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}}
: Should I play only Ranked? Is Ranked getting worse?
Just treat ranked like normals. No, that doesn't mean play like a monkey going for off-meta builds you're unfamiliar with. One of your biggest enemies in ranked is nerves, you don't wanna be so tightly wound that you end up performing poorly because of nerves. Have fun, do your best, and mute the dickheads. I especially encourage the last point, mute anyone that causes you to lose focus, no matter how much you want to reply back. I won one of my promos last night thinking it was just a normal draft match. Dear god was that a good surprise
Okuma (EUNE)
: What's your favorite champion/skin quote and why?
Old {{champion:266}} "Pain is temporary. Victory is forever" This always reminded me to not give up on a match I thought was unwinnable. Back when I used to main him.
: Remember when you could place Rift in between Krugs to save it for later?
Poor Sol. This actually happened to our Yasuo a couple months back. We were trying to end the match as well because we were afraid of throwing the game. Needless to say, he lost his fucking shit. {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
: Not gonna be mean but I'd rather having Lucian and Jhin as meta , 10 times more than Cait
> [{quoted}](name=Noor Sakata,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4GxiPodz,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-10-23T08:13:01.779+0000) > > Not gonna be mean but I'd rather having Lucian and Jhin as meta , 10 times more than Cait Stupid, self-peeling training wheel marksman with a range that would make Vayne wet herself. Did I mention I hate {{champion:51}}
: "it's just shen, what's the worst that could happen."
> [{quoted}](name=Jerry SeinfeId,realm=EUW,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=Ast69GUE,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-10-23T18:28:38.716+0000) > > "it's just shen, what's the worst that could happen." Mistakes were made
: When you're being optimistic and try to solo a towerdive but it backfires horribly
{{champion:11}} Allow me to finish off the Annie. {{champion:245}} But bro her stun.... AN ALLY HAS BEEN SLAIN
: > [{quoted}](name=Blåbæret,realm=EUW,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=FG361gI5,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-10-22T23:50:18.419+0000) > > She's cancer and needs to be in the gutter to not spread tumors all over the rift. Ok, why not gut this then. {{champion:99}} {{champion:145}} {{champion:238}} {{champion:131}} {{champion:105}} {{champion:91}} {{champion:7}} {{champion:121}} {{champion:31}} {{champion:63}} {{champion:34}} {{champion:56}} {{champion:555}} {{champion:81}} {{champion:28}} {{champion:104}} {{champion:64}} {{champion:62}} {{champion:35}} {{champion:79}} {{champion:245}} {{champion:84}} By your fucking logic, all of those champions are Broken and cancer. Most of them can burst you from 1 to 0, can roam like Appolo, and will be a pain in the ass to deal with, some better than others. Zoe is the least broken burst champion out of all of them I have listed. At least with Zoe, you need to know what you are doing. So tell us again, how is Zoe worse than ANY of the 22 champions listed? Three good answers for all of them. Else you are full of hate and talk, no substance.
Yeah I would rather deal with {{champion:142}} over this bullshit cancer {{champion:7}} any day of the week.
: No its not like did you read your post its not about the remake system being broken its about buscuit breaking the remake system those are two different things so all your doing is making a post that is spreading a lie so the real issue which is the remake system not working for no reason does not get talked about so no your not doing the right thing in fact this looks more like shit posting.
> [{quoted}](name=boricCentaur1,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=9nXcOKKK,comment-id=000b00000000,timestamp=2018-10-22T19:16:10.503+0000) > > No its not like did you read your post its not about the remake system being broken its about buscuit breaking the remake system those are two different things so all your doing is making a post that is spreading a lie so the real issue which is the remake system not working for no reason does not get talked about so no your not doing the right thing in fact this looks more like shit posting. Regardless of the emphasis of OP's post, it does bring attention to the fact that the remake system isn't working as intended. This post has thus sprung forth a discussion about this issue; is that not the intended purpose of the boards in the first place? To be a place of discussion?
: this is the most sad story i have ever heared in my entire life
> [{quoted}](name=ned the kled,realm=EUNE,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=9nXcOKKK,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-10-22T14:37:03.706+0000) > > this is the most sad story i have ever heared in my entire life *heard
Skelenth (EUW)
: When Swain tells Garen that only together they can defeat the Void
iahim98 (EUNE)
: I swear I was calm when making the comment https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.500551106.0986/ap,550x550,12x12,1,transparent,t.u2.png maybe a bit sleepy.
> [{quoted}](name=iahim98,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=49osYRrE,comment-id=0003000000010000,timestamp=2018-10-20T11:06:08.881+0000) > > I swear I was calm when making the comment https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.500551106.0986/ap,550x550,12x12,1,transparent,t.u2.png maybe a bit sleepy. Well if you're anything like my girlfriend, sleep deprivation will turn you into "little miss poopy pants" as I like to call her hehe {{sticker:sg-shisa}}
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