: Here's what's wrong with Teamfight Tactics
it's **Teamfight** Tactics, not **Team** fight Tactics I
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it doesnt last forever you know
: > [{quoted}](name=EyelessbobBarker,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iEi5wQei,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-09-26T03:46:51.840+0000) > > RIP old{{champion:82}} and old {{champion:6}} can no longer play them cause didnt like the rework Which old Morde? The original one was my first main but the one that can have a pet dragon wasnt that great.
> [{quoted}](name=Pandemic Punch,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iEi5wQei,comment-id=000000000002,timestamp=2019-09-26T07:26:54.046+0000) > > Which old Morde? The original one was my first main but the one that can have a pet dragon wasnt that great. ok but... pet dragon
: > [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AidpmA7n,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-09-19T22:47:06.013+0000) > > You were discussing a champion's sexual history in unnecessary detail. That's not okay here. Unnecessary is a strong word.
> [{quoted}](name=I am so very sad,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AidpmA7n,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-09-19T23:08:00.843+0000) > > Unnecessary is a strong word. it's the right word
Ultimew (NA)
: Old Urf
haven't we gone through this already?
YBaKunt (NA)
: Please remove lifesteal
Have you tried grevious wounds?
jaraett (NA)
: Yuumi going invisible
apart from the fact that yuumi's been reduced to a healbot thanks to the last patch.
: Why is ARAM all random?
I personally like it because it allows me to use crazy builds without being flamed. Ap nunu, lethality sion, etc. It's fun and it's shorter and less stressing than a regular game, not having to worry about vision or map awareness or csing.
: riot your game is trash
leave then, this game aint dying any time soon
: *cries in xerath*
> [{quoted}](name=Pals Before Gals,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IHJJtLuG,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-09-08T22:46:14.569+0000) > > *cries in xerath* _cries in ornn_
: Nerf nunu
He literally does no damage apart from his ultimate which is easily avoided or negated by cc. His heal is minimal against champions, and grevious wounds basically solves that problem. Also he is really weak, barely played, and falls behind late due to no damage.
: I'm sorry for my belligerent behavior and my non stop harassment and toxic attitude I've had
Yes because posts about player behavior normally get 25 upvotes in 2 hours
Rioter Comments
: Add a 20% damage reduction to ranged champions in top lane
Ok, let's do that. Irelia, Riven and Yasuo are suddenly played mid, but, oh no, mid is ONLY for mages and assassins, so we reduce their damage by 30% cause they're such strong carries. Now they're played adc, but that can't be right, better slap another nerf on them, maybe 50% this time. Suddenly mages become the go-to apc due to their superior range and early damage. Let's reduce their spell range by 50% and their damage by 20%. Maybe half their cc time as well. Now mages are so weak, and bruisers have been nerfed, adcs are played midlane. I know, we'll reduce their auto range so they stop becoming so prominent. Sarcasm aside, what the hell is that supposed to mean. Alright, I'll play kennen jg and just spam gank you, because this 20% damage nerf only applies to people playing top. And is this debuff supposed to last the entire game? How am I supposed to push top with my team without a large chunk of my damage? Does Urgot get nerfed as well? His range is barely bigger than melee and now he does no damage cause of the 20% reduction being applied to Every. Single. Shot. What do you consider to be playing "toplane"?
: Is riot racism?
top ten questions science still can't answer
: Riot forgot to add Lux and Ezreal into the new skinline
you mean the ones they already have right?
Rioter Comments
Spotty (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=mack9112,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=rXAiHFh3,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-05-22T08:07:34.945+0000) > > I thought udyr did too even more biAS!!
> [{quoted}](name=Spotty,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=rXAiHFh3,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-05-22T08:10:30.200+0000) > > even more biAS!! bias against what?
: This game needs voice coms with whole team
Voice chat isnt gonna make people listen to you if (as it seems in this situation), they don't want to.
OpSick (EUNE)
Pretty sure tonnes of people still play Fiora and Katarina but ok
: delete Arkansas
> [{quoted}](name=XElite109,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PUH6ElBE,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-03-27T22:45:54.070+0000) > > delete Arkansas delete America
: Why turn a serious event like the VS into a joke?
Cause everything is already too serious, even in "for fun" gamemodes like arurf. We need some silly to balance it out.
: Delete Noxus.
> [{quoted}](name=Stars Shaper,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PUH6ElBE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-27T21:29:33.159+0000) > > Delete Noxus. Delete Runeterra.
: > [{quoted}](name=ZephyrDrake,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pprapum5,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-23T10:49:38.105+0000) > > oh noes! another league is dead and terrible suggestions to go with it... assassins do not need more damage, lethality is already good against squishies, ADCs have the ratios they have for a reason, look at Ezreal's base damages on his Q... 115 at max rank, it's also his main ability. Zhonya's stuns you! the duration and CD are fine. Cleaver is fine. Why? does deathcap's interaction with veigar needs to be changed? he is barely a thing. Luden's does not need to go back to old Luden's. Champions with little mobility also gain stronger utility while champions with lots of mobility also come with less utility damage isn't the only thing. There are exceptions but those are just that exceptions not the rule. You say this about Talon but he is still doing well, so it's on you not on Talon. Lord dom does not need more armor pen. Rengar can leap, can cleanse himself while healing himself and getting a MS boost he has escapes. Nocture is a diver, that is what he is. People building him like an assassin doesn't make him an assassin. He is a diver, his kit is of a diver Wiki clasifies him as assassin! LOL
cause diver is a sub-class, he's an assassin in general but no further than that.
: Riot will do anything to fuck over master yi and mess with him till he's nerfed to hell.
Crit is base yi build isn't it? Anyway as long as his carry potential is down idc
englich (EUW)
: im talking about mid not top
> [{quoted}](name=englich,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JWfGqEbb,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-03-16T07:09:03.697+0000) > > im talking about mid not top Play swain. harass her out of lane and shotgun q her when she goes for minions. Plus your ult can out sustain her anyday
: Top/mid is a hard one. Vladimir, swain, lissandra, ryze? Those are about your choices.
> [{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=b8NlzQ4i,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-16T09:06:14.688+0000) > > Top/mid is a hard one. > > Vladimir, swain, lissandra, ryze? Those are about your choices. well i said can be played. so if you play ap sona mid and carry i aint complaining
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=PopcornBunni,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nfy4XR9d,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-03-07T22:49:43.665+0000) > > Don't forget the tanks that were doing so bad top the only thing they could do was shift to support. > > {{champion:98}} {{champion:111}} {{champion:3}} {{champion:223}} {{champion:78}} > > {{champion:78}} was actually doing barely okay top since she countered Riven before the later got {{item:3161}} and new conqueror; but outside of that one matchup she got shat on by every diver, skirmisher, juggernaut, and ranged matchup, only countering other tanks with bad single-use dashes like {{champion:98}} {{champion:3}}. True what happened to the tanks? Supports, Mage can't go mid, what happened to the mages? SUPPORT!
: Let's see ranked...
There isn't enough reasons for that. It's mainly personal preference, whether your primarily competitive or play for the experience.
: Banned or picked in 100% of games.
> [{quoted}](name=Morgana Deus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=te1U5Hpx,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-03-07T08:34:31.437+0000) > > Banned or picked in 100% of games. I think people forgot nothing changed with her except a visual update and they all just assumed she's new and should be permabanned 100% of the time. Dw, it'll calm down soon hopefully, play blind until then.
: And {{champion:223}} ? His devour has worse ap ratios than brand`s aoe passive lol....
yeah but to be fair it does like 20% max health at later ranks
: Which one rework do you personally find to be the best one yet. (In anyway except gameplay)
Swain. He just looks so dark and regal, and his voicelines when he takes soul fragments are so mysterious. Also Nunu cute af I want to hug him and Willump so much.
: You are all still playing this game.
Well I'm definitely the latter.
Have you ever played full ap Alistar and Amumu, If that's what you've been getting, you have been missing out on a huge opportunity buddy.
: You know there is something that I don't get, {{champion:34}} =Pheonix {{champion:106}} =bear but {{champion:516}} doesn't = turtle/tiger So, if {{champion:77}} gets a rework will we get goat stance?
Ram actually and it says in his story that he can, in fact, take the shape of a giant ram. He changed into a ram to intimidate Volibear, who hates Ornn.
: If so, then every champion is equal, it is impossible for something to be broken, and League would somehow manage to be in a much worse state then it already is.
As I said, experience. I may not be actually good at the game but I know what I'm doing. I don't know how you expect me to demonstrate experience without watching me play.
: If so, then every champion is equal, it is impossible for something to be broken, and League would somehow manage to be in a much worse state then it already is.
I'm sorry what are you implying here?
: If so, then every champion is equal, it is impossible for something to be broken, and League would somehow manage to be in a much worse state then it already is.
I could probably teach you a few things as well. It's experience vs actual skill.
: If so, then every champion is equal, it is impossible for something to be broken, and League would somehow manage to be in a much worse state then it already is.
Well I still disagree about the whole 2.25 second stun thing, but I do understand how a bit of cc could really help him out without making him insanely broken. That or I'm too tired to bother arguing anymore. Either or. Anyway you seem to know a lot about the game, don't suppose you could help me out a bit? I don't care about your rank. I'm just trash with big dreams. Fun argument btw, I basically live for this kind of stuff. Also no-one's downvote frauding or anything people in general just disagree with you.
: It was better when you didn't poison /hot with your low-effort gifposting.
> [{quoted}](name=JPLangley,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=EZd8EAyh,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-02-28T01:02:05.509+0000) > > It was better when you didn't poison /hot with your low-effort gifposting. oh shut up
: > [{quoted}](name=Brony Gaymer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RATVFQyW,comment-id=000000000001000000000000000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2019-02-28T03:02:24.242+0000) > > That's what you say but it isn't true. You don't know why I am in iron and you don't know me. If you think he wouldn't be better off with a stun I prob know more league stuff than you, sorry to say. support your claims please. Otherwise their just opinions
I think he's a smurf. His match history shows that he does more then well in his games but might be held back with teammates but idk. He has 800 upvotes as well which means he spends a lot of time on the boards with this account. I could be wrong, that's just my theory.
: It can't be applied from the safety of range that ahri's charm can be, which also brings you into your team, it can't be self chained like shaco boxes and you're forgetting pyke's combo. Not to mention the longer, safer and usually more useful combination of Leblanc's slow > stun into Slow > stun. Icing on the cake? Champions have higher base armor than mr and let's just say Zed's 2.25 second stun is way more deserved than you seem to want to give it credit haha
On the other hand, ahri's charm is a skillshot which can be easily baited, the chances of you getting chained by more than 1 shaco box is unlikely, and at least you have a chance to actually do something with pyke (Plus he's a support). Also lebanc's line thing is a very short _root_, and requires her to be nearby, although not by any short distance. All zed has to do is w next to you and auto. Yes this would take some good positioning, and he should be rewarded for doing it. But look at it like this: Why don't assassins have a lot of cc? Answer: Because they don't need it, and they shouldn't have it in large amounts. They have a tonne of damage and mobility, and giving them the ability to incapacitate enemies for a long time would allow them to dominate their own lane so much easier, which would give them more opportunities to roam. _You never give a champion everything._ Something riot has been having trouble with recently. I don't know what he needs, as I don't play him, but he definitely does not need a stun _OF THAT LENGTH._
: I might be vastly superior in both, you would have no idea. You don't know why I am losing games, I could be an inting smurf or I could be getting afks or I could be making localized bad decisions that make me lose. But what you do know, is what I said in this thread so far and for the record, it's education to someone of your level.
: Yes but mages also have a very different set of pockets to play in ,both in lane and in rotation and engagements. They also have different ranges, pros and cons and this version of zed, while he will be better and more importantly, a better thematic fit, is still less than pick or ban and it's not like zed can just go around autoing as much as he wants , wherever he wants and with no counterplay. Even in a 1v1 on aram mode type environment, the 100 cs or tower kind, Zed would still not be S+ so with that in mind, what's the problem?
Because this would be the longest hard cc of any assassin. Ahri, Kassadin, Talon, Kayn, Rengar, Leblanc. The closest would, I believe, be Evellynn's charm at 1.5 seconds but that charm comes with a tonne of its own drawbacks. Giving Zed a stun has no counter except by playing how you would usually play against an assassin. Safely. Anyway it's not like riot listens to the boards much in any case. Now can we get this whole thing over with?
: I think 2.25 is a very serious, good and advisable number.
You need to look at this from a mage's viewpoint. Most of their cc has twice the cd you're suggesting, for usually only 1 second of stun. Same with most champions. Being stunned for a full 2.25 seconds leaves no room to get away at all. This is the kind of stun time you'd get on an ultimate. On a 6 second cd. Undodgable (excluding spell shields [which can get easily popped by a q], etc)
: It's very useful, as is max hp% damage. And in many situations that zed regularly finds himself in it may even be MORE useful than the stun (Which is admittingly better in MORE situations) but that isn't the point. What you don't understand is that a 2.25 second stun would be a better THEMATIC fit and Zed would be played more, enough if champions didn't gloss over him because they are specifically annoyed by his magic damage clashing with his theme, obviously.
I can see that, I just disagree with the actual length of the stun you're implicating. I would make it 0.75 seconds scaling higher into lategame to about 1.5 seconds, with a cd scaling down from 8 seconds, to 4.
: Magic damage doesn't fit physical blade assassin. A single target stun would fit well, with his damage and his single target ult and that one target you want your zed to kill, and it would make his whole skillshotty kit come together a lot more, all on that one, marked and doomed to death character, if plaaid well and fed or something. Thematically, his passive ruins him so to speak.... a 2.25 second stun instead would save that
I feel it's usually good to have at least some magic damage on physical champions, and vice versa, which opens up some new build paths, although, of course, his passive doesn't scale with ap. It's like Illaoi. Her entire kit is physical damage, so all you need is some armour and she's useless. I think the magic damage is just there so someone with 300+ armour isn't going to be completely immune to Zed's damage, but I don't know really. I can see how the kit does come together a bit better, it's just the stun length I disagree with right now.
: Like a lot of people can't help themselves to pick non zed champions when his theme doesn't even fit.
His theme seems fine, but to be fair I have barely played him.
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