Arcyyy (NA)
: "We made Runans not work with Xayahs passive because it would be too OP"
Silly OP. Runaans not op with that garbage passive. It's op with his ult which makes his auto range *and* bolts 850 range ;)
Meep Man (NA)
: > I feel like this is a nerf for nerfs sake. Well, he arguably does need a nerf. Whether this is it or not is not definitive, but it is arguable he needs a nerf.
> [{quoted}](name=WAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pWov51oe,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2017-08-25T02:12:40.410+0000) > > Well, he arguably does need a nerf. Whether this is it or not is not definitive, but it is arguable he needs a nerf. True. As unfortunate as it is for me as a twitch main, I honestly believe he needs a decent sized rework. He's currently sporting the playstyle of an assassin _and_ a hyper carry, which is either balanced and everyone is wrong or can't be balanced and needs to be changed *not nerfed*. Riot need to choose a side then rework, preferably the assassin side as stealth is what twitch is primarily about imho.
Penns (EUW)
: so 1 more month of "more broken bot lane wins" feelsbadman
> [{quoted}](name=Penns,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Nl81LdO9,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-08-24T12:11:11.425+0000) > > so *only 1 more month of "more broken bot lane wins" feelsbadman
Áery (NA)
: What if Twitch Q "smelled" out his enemies
I feel like this is a nerf for nerfs sake. It won't change the fact that he can solo penta with ult mid-late (with good positioning), which is probably the biggest concern people have. So we'll nerf his assassin playstyle, then nerf his teamfight playstyle later and he'll have nothing left. Just a thought.
MagÊ (EUW)
: Twitch is balanced because his early game is shit
Twitch op or itemization op? Just a thought.
Snapsi (EUW)
: Guys, Ahri doesn't have a Christmas/ Snow themed skin yet
You could say her potential is _limitless_ {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
Viviana (NA)
: Oooh look another Ahri skin
Believe it or not, this will be ahri's 8th skin. Bad but not too bad. Mf and Ez on the other hand are joining the "10 skins squad" -.-
: What's the story of your Summoner Name?
https://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/zelda/images/f/f7/Volvagia_Battle.png/revision/latest?cb=20100124061003 Favorite game franchise is zelda. Volvagia from ocarina of time (probably my favorite zelda game) eats gorons (rock men) and err... V cause ~5 years ago a number at the end of my named sounded like a cooler idea...?
: Someone posted a pic of what it'd have looked like and I don't believe that that's the case
> [{quoted}](name=Lupan,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Xyc9dfeH,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2017-07-26T10:02:11.487+0000) > > Someone posted a pic of what it'd have looked like and I don't believe that that's the case Did not see this. Damn, so it could be done and Riot really are just being lazy for Twitch :/
: @Riot Why the Lack of Changes on the Omega Squad Skins?
I can deal with the twitch knife with the explanation they gave: but they cannot justify the W: venom cask lack of sfx change for a 1350 rp skin. Lack of veigar changes is disappointing for veigar fans too. So much potential wasted :/
: Still on pbe, remeber that. And tbh green particles are there for clarity's sake.
> [{quoted}](name=Arzonv,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=7XsBrHVu,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-07-13T17:05:38.663+0000) > > Still on pbe, remeber that. And tbh green particles are there for clarity's sake. Hence the feedback. Crabgot would still be shooting chains if someone didn't suggest tentacles.
Rioter Comments
Lμcíd (NA)
: Omega Squad Veigar's ult (and possibly q)
Giving feedback is fine: helps Riot know what we want. In this case, I agree with you. At most it's a slightly larger Q. Firing a nuke/ missile etc. would be ideal but at the very least maybe fire it from his gun?
: Omega Squad Twitch -- from the perspective of a Twitch main
Hate to be that guy, but this one is definitely the one they put the least love into. Missing SFXs on Q and W compared to full SFX changes on all the other skins is just plain mean. And yeah, Riot don't seem to realize Twitch has been green for 8 years. The second ADC to exist deserves more. Hopefully our feedback can get through to them as the crabgot suggestion already has.
: Let's Talk about this: O.M.E.G.A Squad II
Definitely think they'll add some SFXs in the next week or so: but on the off chance they aren't planning it, I want them to know so that they've got a full 2 weeks to make em :) But if this skin was pulled due to not meeting quality standards and thus being indirectly replaced by that Tristana skin that wasn't shown in the leak...
: Let's Talk about this: O.M.E.G.A Squad II
Which is a problem considering we'll basically be the only ones reluctantly buying this skin if the quality isn't brought up to meet the other skins ^_^ But there's still time and hopefully they'll hear us.
: Let's Talk about this: O.M.E.G.A Squad II
Love em all, but as a Twitch main that one needs some work imo. Maybe it's just been so long since a good quality Twitch skin came out (you know, all 8 years of his existence) but it looks lower quality than the other 3. There are some nice attention to detail like the ambient sounds in Q, laser sight after Q exit etc. but no significant color changes and _current_ lack of Q and W SFXs are slightly disappointing.
: About Omega squad Twitch
As weird as it is, I'm actually fine either way. By the hilt is normal and I wouldn't mind the change, but Twitch has always been crazy so it's no surprise to me that he'd hold a knife by the blade ;)
: I was so ready to praise Riot's skin team for a Twitch Skin, but as much as I hate to say it I'm pretty disappointed by OS Twitch. His model is quite lackluster, (he looks pretty much like base Twitch with a gas mask), and his base animation doesn't seem to meet Riot's fluid animation standard in my opinion. I don't think I'd be so disappointed if Riot didn't show just how great a job they can do with the Omega Squad theme with OS Veigar and Fizz, both of which are so damn great in comparison. Just really makes me feel like Twitch got neglected in favor of the other three OS skins.
> [{quoted}](name=TwitchesBeCrazy,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=8XGANz0o,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-07-12T00:27:12.610+0000) > > I was so ready to praise Riot's skin team for a Twitch Skin, but as much as I hate to say it I'm pretty disappointed by OS Twitch. > > His model is quite lackluster, (he looks pretty much like base Twitch with a gas mask), and his base animation doesn't seem to meet Riot's fluid animation standard in my opinion. > > I don't think I'd be so disappointed if Riot didn't show just how great a job they can do with the Omega Squad theme with OS Veigar and Fizz, both of which are so damn great in comparison. Just really makes me feel like Twitch got neglected in favor of the other three OS skins. That's the real tilter for me atm: the fact that the other 3 are the great Riot quality we've learned to love for the last few years, but the Twitch one is just a little off. Lack of Q and W SFXs, average model: I just hope they've still got some stuff to add or they'll use our feedback to add it.
Khadaver (NA)
: Could Omega Squad Twitch's goggles come down during stealth?
ThinkPol (NA)
: Omega Squad Twitch is Lackluster
I agree that this skin needs work before release. Lack of Q and W sound effects is pretty bad considering the other 3 skins have _all_ sound effects changed. Not too big a deal considering it's still pre-release and they could have these SFX still coming. But if they aren't coming **make them please**. Green particles is super disappointing as a Twitch main: we're going on 8 years of green particles now. While the theme is supposed to be green, I feel like they could have justified another color. And finally, like you said there's something just wrong with the model. The coat just doesn't work for the "covert ops, stealth and infiltration expert". And lets be real: it's a re-color of the base Twitch coat.
: Look! Twitch is at 30% HP
To some extent. They still aren't healing for full lifesteal anymore, so just have to get through the shield now and then kill them.
: Look! Twitch is at 30% HP
Look! None of these items were bought {{item:3165}} {{item:3123}} {{item:3033}}...
: who else struggles to get boxes cus they play less than 5 champs
My one trick {{champion:29}}, <S material supporting and 30+ key fragments say hi :(
: It's called a Marksman except...
Ah, but it's like my boy {{champion:29}} always says: _"Shooting's easy, aiming's the hard part"_
: How to make your jungler gank with 5 easy words
I don't believe in the existence of "junglers". Occasionally like an old fishermans' tale of a mermaid I'll encounter what looks like a jungler ganking for me, but they leave so fast I question whether they were real or not.
: When you want more reworks and VGUs but you hate when it actually happens
I can't be the only one who misses old taric. Whether I was ad top taric or regular support taric: no one expected the damage I'd dish out :(
: How do you beat twitch late game?
You need "that guy". You know: the guy who sits there waiting for Twitch to appear then jumps his ass and murders him. Helps if you know whereabouts he'll most likely appear: -good flanking spot nearby? -too tight spaced so maybe he'll fight from the back line? Best bet would be to engage when you have vision of him. He could have his Q on cd which would drastically reduce his damage output, or it'll probably take him an extra second or two to activate Q before R, which is when you kill everything.
Rewt (NA)
: They just need to make the Ult not interact with Runnans and nerf the AD steroid. While I do think twitch is balanced. These nerfs wouldnt kill him.
> [{quoted}](name=rewt127,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vIEtWzlu,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-06-22T03:05:41.703+0000) > > They just need to make the Ult not interact with Runnans and nerf the AD steroid. > > While I do think twitch is balanced. These nerfs wouldnt kill him. Runaans nerf is reasonable. AD steroid nerf is debatable. Is 900 range and piercing shots down to 40% effectiveness really "too strong" in the grand scheme of league of legends abilities. Also have to consider his power budget is all in Q and R, hence why they're so strong.
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=MordeÇaiser,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vIEtWzlu,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-06-22T03:02:52.988+0000) > > I&#x27;ll stop you there. So you are telling me that other ADC should shoot 3 piercing shots every auto at 900 range from invisibility with an AD steriod? Obviously not. I'm saying he's probably getting too free a laning phase. Alternatively it could be like the popular opinion of late: adcs _in general_ have too large an impact on the game. Considering the loads of mage nerfs over the past year, it feasible. And if you think Twitch is the only champion who can blow up teams, I direct you to Jinx, mf and tristana (but I'm sure you know this).
Rioter Comments
: It's only on OCE now, so you won't have much feedback on the board! -but I feel you. I also wonder where I am at.
> [{quoted}](name=Tundra Hunter,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wJyGEFn4,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-06-19T01:56:25.209+0000) > > It&#x27;s only on OCE now, so you won&#x27;t have much feedback on the board! > > -but I feel you. I also wonder where I am at. I'm aware. My thought are that the guys in NA (being the ones who actually work on this stuff to my knowledge) would know more than the OCE guys.
Rioter Comments
: Mastery points system is bs
You read my mind: was thinking of posting basically this. Like you said: why is the _mastery_ of _my_ champion dependent on the performance of my _allies_?? Really bugs me when I'm on the slow grind to that 1mil :)
Rioter Comments
Bultz (NA)
: Sneaking up on someone as a stealth champion
{{champion:29}} main: can confirm.
Rioter Comments
: Can you get demoted from s5 to b1?
Well considering I've been demoted from G5 to S1, I would say it is quite possible. Though that did take me quite a few losses in a row to do it. In my case there was also a yellow triangle icon warning telling me I was being "protected" for now but could be demoted soon, followed by a red triangle basically saying "get your shit together or you're out".
BabyNaix (NA)
: I find when I use this feature of close the client during game, the game is still laggy with low fps. During some team fights it drops below 10 for me.
> [{quoted}](name=BabyNaix,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EvHcO9F0,comment-id=00000002,timestamp=2017-06-13T12:41:11.892+0000) > > I find when I use this feature of close the client during game, the game is still laggy with low fps. During some team fights it drops below 10 for me. Yeah, I don't know if it's my pc sucking (most likely) or they've done something with the game; but I teamfight on <10fps, sometimes reaching levels of 4. And that's why I main Twitch. So I can stand still and kill things :)
Elfezen (NA)
: The new League of Legends Client consumes way too much resources & FPS
There's the "close client during game" option. Takes an eternity or two for it to load, but it helps.
: Thanks for your constructive input. However, I personally think the first two weaknesses can be mitigated by his q movement speed and the safety of his ultimate range, especially in higher elo. His early game may be weak but that alone shouldn't be a champ's counterplay. This is just my opinion tho. What do you think about those points?
> [{quoted}](name=Unnamed Feeder,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sxPmZn8k,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2017-06-12T16:03:20.078+0000) > However, I personally think the first two weaknesses can be mitigated by his q movement speed and the safety of his ultimate range, especially in higher elo. Q movement speed doesn't help much if you're jumped. Takes a bit to kick in and is only 10% if you're running from people. His ult range definitely makes him a lot safer, but there are still ways to reach him or countermeasures such as control wards to not get caught off guard or knowledge of where he'll likely appear from. >His early game may be weak but that alone shouldn&#x27;t be a champ&#x27;s counterplay. This is just my opinion tho. > What do you think about those points? Definitely one to think about. But on the flip side; how is a champions weaker mid-late game counterplay to an amazing early game? Not saying late game is balanced, but you've got to consider both sides if you think one is over-tuned. This being said, I am a biased Twitch main; but I do feel like a lot of the hate atm is just the "op of the month", combined with some poorly thought out nerfs. Like what would increasing his camouflage circle do? He won't be able to flank as much. Ok... Guess I'll just stand at the backline and kill you through your frontline instead of flanking? Or the other one I've read: "don't let him cast abilities in stealth while not breaking stealth". Only one that does that is ult, which you use **immediately** after activating 99% of the time anyway. If he is too strong, what nerfs are _actually_ needed is for another discussion.
: Is Twitch a bit too strong?
Counterplay is lack of mobility and self kiting, along with a terrible laning phase. Most adc's should beat him early. Botrk probably still too strong too.
: Could Teemo get a Tracking mechanic?
Sounds like a cool idea. Would definitely like him to be reworked with a larger emphasis on being the "swift scout".
: So, what/who counters Twitch?
{{champion:119}} {{champion:51}} for adcs or basically anyone who can play their carry aggressively and well. {{champion:43}} {{champion:117}} {{champion:143}} or basically any other hard hitting, aggressive support. And like mentioned above, the walls: {{champion:201}} {{champion:157}} (though he can just wait them out or walk around yasuo's). His early game is pure shit unless you're worse than shit or **really** passive. Shut him down early and that's mostly that, unless you wait for another 30-40 minutes. Basically as "counterable" as your average Joe.
Azureee7 (EUW)
: Just seen a Twitch assassinate LB all game long whenever she tried to pick him off in LCS
Watched the highlights: nothing op about what I saw. All I saw was a _Hyper Carry_ being given a free laning phase and thus being strong enough to kill a _not fed_ assassin. Nice try.
: The problemis the wait now. I really hope the second leak is real because i main both rumble and yorick and they both are lacking in skins. I think base yoricks the best right now and im tied between brr and sgr for rumble.
> [{quoted}](name=fallenreaper88,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=yfEl5UjT,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-06-05T11:10:14.982+0000) > > The problemis the wait now. I really hope the second leak is real because i main both rumble and yorick and they both are lacking in skins. I think base yoricks the best right now and im tied between brr and sgr for rumble. Oh the wait. Feels bad when the skins you want (omega squads) are at the _end_ of the list :/
: Counterplay to a champion should not be "destroy them before X minutes"
Feels bad when someone is crusading against your main. I mean to be fair, he is pretty stupid. Why am I dealing assassin levels of burst to 5 people at once? Not sure what they can do to him without completely changing his identity though.
: @Meddler you talked about making melees viable Botlane
But will letting melees into bot lane actually create more diversity? If those champions are viable in bot lane, which marksman will be kicked out as a result? Adding that many champions to the bot lane pool will most certainly waver the viability of a number who are already currently there. So in a sense, this suggestion won't _add_ more champions to bot lane, but will _replace_ a number. Considering the champions listed above are already viable in other lanes; this would decrease diversity rather than add it. Just my concerns as an adc player.
Kobra Rax (EUW)
: A new skin for Twitch
As a twitch main, I'll always upvote a twitch skin ;) On a side note: if you didn't see that leak, there's an omega squad twitch on it and basically everything else on the list has come to pass so.... Only a matter of time I guess.
jone115 (EUNE)
: Is Jhin still worth buying ???
Damage? Jump in? From afar? ~~Kill a few enemies~~ Kill **all** the enemies? Sounds like you're looking for {{champion:29}}
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