coreym11 (NA)
: Bot lane has turned so stressful and so cheese to play, doesn't even feel competitive
And then you have to face {{champion:350}} , where the lane has literally 0 interactivity because she's usually picked with either {{champion:81}} , {{champion:15}}, or {{champion:51}} , who are all extremely safe. Also 1/4 of your HP? More like at least 80% thanks to {{summoner:14}} , Scorch, Aery/Comet/Electrocute and Cheap Shot.
: Normal games are terrible because they have their own mmr which is really silly. You can't even try new champions because you have to play against 1 million mastery points Yasuos and Zeds.
No truer words have ever been spoken.....
Rioter Comments
Saezio (EUNE)
: Riot could have disabled annie. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
That's not really an excuse. If you KNOW that it's gamebreaking you don't pick it.
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Hazare (NA)
: I mean.. Yes. It is. There are people who have point-and-click nukes in the game right now and are far more problematic than an Ez. If you dodge the Skillshots, Ez does no damage. Point-And-Clickers though.. Also remember this ; Ez essentially gets all that damage because he doesn't build crit or attack speed. An actual ADC can assassinate you by point-and-clicking you for half a second because you ate 3 crits during that time.
Yes, there are point and click nukers, I think that they're dumb in their own right and shouldn't exist. If we're referring to ADCs crit just needs to be reworked again (wow, who would have thought).
: What are you talking about? He's pretty thin, gets a lot of exercise walking around Runeterra!
The little twink is anorexic instead. I mean, how else will he attract the bro-con known as Lux?
Hotarµ (NA)
: His main sources of damage (Q/W) can be completely blocked by minions and allied champions. If he puts himself in AA range, he's at risk of getting locked down or blowing his only form of escape since he's incredibly squishy, even with an Iceborn Gauntlet. >I keep seeing Ezreals 2-shot people (or 1 shot if you classify W->Q as a oneshot), and honestly, it just doesn't feel right at all. There's no way an Ezreal is doing that unless he's fed off his ass with 2-3+ items above everyone else. Even then, he still probably needs to weave in an E, AAs, an ultimate, or more Qs. And at that point, you can still dodge his heavy burst by dodging or blocking it with minions/tanks.
"There's no way an Ezreal is doing that unless he's fed off his ass with 2-3+ items above everyone else." Nope, welcome to Luden's 3rd item Ezreal. He deals so much mixed damage that you get guaranteed nuked unless you specifically build resistances ASAP.
: He's balanced out by the fact that most of his damage is in the form of skillshots, which require the player to aim and lead targets. It's not like with people like Kha'zix who can just delete you with 3 buttons. You also have to remember that he's still an ADC, which means assassins can still counter him, despite Ez having a built-in flash in his kit.
"He's balanced out by the fact that most of his damage is in the form of skillshots", this is not an excuse for him to be nuking people....
: Idk, can't be that broken with a 47% winrate at every tier.
I never said he was broken balance wise, he's just unhealthy rn in terms of design and gameplay.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JhfEIQBg,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-17T01:07:54.941+0000) > > Syndra has been trash tier for over a year dude. "B-but her ult killed me in one shot when she was 8-0! Broken champ!"
Her ult is a targeted ability, which is kinda dumb.
: R.I.P Control Mages
{{champion:112}} and {{champion:127}} aren't weak, they're just run top lane....which is problem in of itself.
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: no it's there to reward the peple that are nice not the people that are faking being nice you are from the latter group you think it's an achievement and thus you expect something from it the people that it rewards are the people that don't think about it they just get it
Faking being nice? That's a new one.
Rioter Comments
: It feels like an huge number high skill floor champions right now are way overtuned...
I'd say {{champion:92}} and {{champion:238}} are the worst offenders here.
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eyEqT8Rf,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-15T12:59:17.314+0000) > > If you think Yuumi is just a healbot, you are deluded. she's also a shieldbot.
She's also a burst poke mage with an unavoidable Q.
: > [{quoted}](name=KazKaz,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=T8eXlPU5,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-07-14T08:17:57.093+0000) > > It's not uninterruptable xD It is actually. The moment Rengar start´s his jump he will 100% apply damage from it unless you use something like zhonya almost at the same time to avoid it.
That's just a straight up lie. If that were the case then an ability such as Draven's E wouldn't knock me out of my jump and cause me to not deal any damage outside of MAYBE W and/or E.
: She *was* a low elo stomper... pre rework. Now she's a very complicated and interesting champion... who is actually too strong at higher elos because her mobility is insane. I don't feel like she needs to be nerfed but I also don't think she should be buffed like many *many* of her mains feels. Many of them want to remove the actual counterplay she has in the form of her delays. :/
I'd much rather they just revert her tbh. You claim she's "interesting" now, only to then claim that they could never buff her and that her mobility is insane (which it is). These contradictory views just don't seem to work out haha.
: > [{quoted}](name=JuiceBoxP,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hyRvBTPE,comment-id=00050000000000000002,timestamp=2019-07-15T14:31:15.107+0000) > > Except every single one of them has incredibly effective ranged poke and ranged wave clear. fizz has ranged wave clear? > Katarina has only Q, for ranged waveclear which hits exactly 3 minions and she has to use it either on minions or the enemy laner. > Or if the laner is dumb enough to stand ontop of the dying minions then it would hit him too. > > add that to your list of unfavorable matchups {{champion:84}} {{champion:69}}{{champion:39}} {{champion:38}} {{champion:50}} {{champion:8}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:7}} {{champion:79}} {{champion:74}} > > They fucking dumpster on her. {{champion:7}} is overnerfed and even when she had silence kat used to delete her, let alone now when kat is reworked/overbuffed and lb nerfed to the ground.
LB is still really strong, 'chu talkin' about?
JuiceBoxP (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Spiced Rum,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hyRvBTPE,comment-id=0005000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-15T13:46:10.904+0000) > > So zed, talon, fizz, Diana, Ekko and kassadin Except every single one of them has incredibly effective ranged poke and ranged wave clear. Katarina has only Q, for ranged waveclear which hits exactly 3 minions and she has to use it either on minions or the enemy laner. Or if the laner is dumb enough to stand ontop of the dying minions then it would hit him too. add that to your list of unfavorable matchups {{champion:84}} {{champion:69}}{{champion:39}} {{champion:38}} {{champion:50}} {{champion:8}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:7}} {{champion:79}} {{champion:74}} They fucking dumpster on her.
{{champion:84}} No, it's only slightly Akali favoured. {{champion:69}} No, it's borderline even (at least until Chall) {{champion:39}} Yes, she dumpsters Kat. {{champion:38}} Overrated. With Conqueror+Long Sword Kat can beat him (up until Chall) {{champion:50}} This is a champion atm? No, Kat beats him right now. {{champion:8}} Yeah. But this matchup is nowhere near unplayable, it's just volatile. {{champion:157}} Fuck this champion (Yes, he beats Kat, and in a "I have no counterplay" sort of way if he's even half-decent. You quite literally have to forego laning phase against even a decent Yas). {{champion:7}} Sort of? Kat can win fairly easily past level 2. {{champion:79}} Just don't fight him. There, done, Kat beats him. {{champion:74}} No. {{champion:1}} No. {{champion:90}} Sort of? Depends on whether or not his jungler is willing to suck him. {{champion:131}} Yeah, champ's dumb. {{champion:127}} No. {{champion:85}} No. {{champion:268}} Skill matchup, Kat favoured. I'll also add some more: {{champion:105}} : Smashes Kat so long as his brain isn't that of a fish. {{champion:266}} : A bruiser sent mid, Kat hates bruisers...you get the picture. {{champion:246}} : A spammable stun, stealth+movement speed, high damage and an ult that is almost guaranteed to hit if you even so much as think about jumping on her past 6. Oh, and did I mention her having high damage? Cause she does have high damage. {{champion:82}} : Broken. Just broken. If he ever gets through ban phase he'll beat ANYONE in lane and out of lane. He needs some more nerfs ASAP. {{champion:142}} : Not really a losing matchup, just an unfavourable one. Zoe does a ridiculous amount of damage, and her W more or less allows her to "cheat" the matchup. {{champion:517}} : This champ's design besides ult is dumb. His healing is dumb and his damage is dumb. Overall....just dumb, that's my word for him. Definitely beats Kat, so your only option past Plat is just to not fight him in lane EVER (unless your jungler comes).
: people call katarina a "low elo stomper"
She is a Gold elo stomper as well as a D4/D2 killer. Her being good in Master and GM just translates to "these ranks aren't used to her being picked so now they're struggling with her". " nerf katarina", no she's not broken, if you can't beat her learn how to or die to her over and over until you do. "she is unfun to play against and is really strong". That's subjective, I find Aatrox, Yuumi, Irelia, Akali, Vayne, Fizz, Yasuo and Vladimir unfun to play against, and yet others seem to think I'm stupid for that, so it is indeed very much subjective. As for her being really strong.....not exactly. She's just a good champ into a lot of what's meta now, her actual kit is still kinda "eh" tier when matched against other melee mid laners; wherein she doesn't get to have a laning phase because they kick her teeth in. "she should be nerfed", again, she's just really good against quite a few of the ranged mid lane champs, who just so happen to the least banned and most picked champs in the mid lane. Additionally, Talon, Yasuo and Zed are all far greater problems than Kat is right now, as they legitimately lack significant counterplay; with overloaded kits just exacerbating their lack of counterplay. Oh, and also Qiyana. Yeah, that champ is extremely strong right now, and honestly you're going to be seeing more of her as time goes on....Also she beats Kat soooooo yeah, there's that too. Like, don't get me wrong with all this, reworked Kat can be quite irritating to fight, and for a lot of mages near impossible thanks to her possessing 3 blinks in a single combo, but there are just bigger problems champs out there. Wow, so her winrate gets worse in Challenger where people REALLY get serious with the game. That doesn't show that she's strong, it shows that a lot of players haven't been exploring her counterplay options, so I advise that you all do that since she's actually quite easy to play around. If Master and GM players can't do that then that means that those ranks are declining in terms of general skill rating and they may as well just be the same as D2 players. As for Plat....it's Gatekeeper elo, which means that most of the half-decent Kat one-tricks have already climbed out of it due to most people in Plat being indecisive with their champion(s) at times. Honestly I wouldn't be looking at any stats for Plat since that rank is a living meme (case and point I literally got to it just by winning like 11 matches in a row). With all that said, I'm personally down for a revert though. Bringing back old Kat would both nerf her AND make her fun again (for me at least). The fact you still can't counterplay Kat when she literally SHOWS you where her damage is coming from and where she'll probably be means that they might as well revert her lmao. xd revert memes gang gang. -**This post was made by Katarina gang** - In all seriousness though, some ADJUSTMENTS would be nice. Less damage for more speed (especially in the late game) would be hella sick. Or better yet, they give her a laning phase again instead of her just being a "roam bot until I'm 10/0 by 10 minutes" sort of champ.
ytf (NA)
: The State of Akali
She's still really good, just get good :)
Yenn (NA)
: Hitting Rengar with CC during his jump and still dying in half a second does not feel good
Anl0rian (NA)
: You're kidding right? The hitbox for that is rediculous.
The hitbox is quite small, but the tether range is long asf.
: Who are your top 2 champs per position? Please comment
Top: {{champion:107}} {{champion:84}} Jungle: {{champion:107}} {{champion:29}} Mid: {{champion:55}} {{champion:84}} ({{champion:246}} ) ADC: {{champion:29}} {{champion:67}} Support: {{champion:412}} {{champion:555}} Akali is not D tier garbage btw, any tier list that says that is just outright wrong. She's still extremely strong if you play her a lot.
: Can the other trees get a forth Keystone for season 10?
We need old runes and masteries, the current runes are busted.
: What are the 10 hardest skillshots to land?
Voluug13 (NA)
: I mean Zilean is good, but he has been in need of a VU or really any attention related to that for like 6 years by now.
: when you main {{champion:26}} but then you also somewhat main {{champion:202}} you would think it evens it out, but no, it doesnt. - . I am still bitter. edit: I missed that op was mainly focused on viability which is why I mentioned Zilean. With that in mind, it´s true that while being completely forgotten by riot my main is still at least playable.
: W charm ignores % magic resist if you proc it, so yes, you can theoretically 100 to 0 a juggernaut that early to mid game isn't allowed to build defensive.
Good luck ever proc'ing charm on Mord. Also if he ults you before you proc charm he just lives, and cleanly at that.
: here i am still wanting Dominion back
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Suh Shi (NA)
: Shaco in desperate need of some changes/buffs/rework
Just revert him. There, done, job's done. Oh, and make his E deal adaptive damage.
: > [{quoted}](name=KazKaz,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YRRoyKhm,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-07T09:10:37.914+0000) > > You have a positive win rate on a champ you've never played before this season, which just further backs up my post. I mean to be fair I didn't own him last season :/
To be fair he's currently the single best jungler in the game.
: Yeah the play where SRO saw that he had a huge minion wave, and used stealth to juke two dumbasses over and over despite them having a pink in the brush.
The pink changes nothing....it only detects camouflage xD
: Uhhh wtf is Zed?
From one Kat player to another, just don't fight Zed. He's an overpowered mess of a champion who lacks significant forms of counterplay thanks to the new runes providing him with far too much damage and making others lose out on needed defensive stats. As for {{item:3155}} , it just needs to be removed from the game, simple as that. Or better yet, turn it into a tier 3 item so that AD assassins+ADCs can't just fork up ONLY 1.3k gold to become borderline unkillable when facing AP champions.
: nono he is fine dont check my op.gg
You have a positive win rate on a champ you've never played before this season, which just further backs up my post.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=KazKaz,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ZQ1R3ku3,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-07-07T01:02:12.955+0000) > > No, it's dumb. She does enough damage as is. Not neccessarily, Katarina is a champion who needs an escort. These changes won't affect competitive play, so in solo queue, having an escort champion have some type of payoff can only be a good thing.
> [{quoted}](name=1 516 735 3508,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ZQ1R3ku3,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-07T01:26:18.821+0000) > > Not neccessarily, Katarina is a champion who needs an escort. These changes won't affect competitive play, so in solo queue, having an escort champion have some type of payoff can only be a good thing. This argument makes no sense, she's strong as is.
: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlkeQyesx60&t=185s Watch this whole play. People need to get good and stop expecting every champion to be first-time freelo.
You mean the play where SRO had an extremely large minion wave, two dumbasses diving into said minion wave and where they didn't know how to play against the champion?
Leetri (EUW)
: No, that's not at all what they're saying. What they're saying is that you shouldn't be able to pick X champion every single game and expect to do just as well no matter what. If they have a bunch of tanks you shouldn't be able to just pick LeBlanc and do just as well as if you were against a team full of squishies. You complain about the same champions being picked all the time. You know why that happens? Because they're good all the time no matter what. Not necessarily strong, but at least decent. Against a tank? Pick X. Against an assassin? Pick X. Against a mage? Pick X. They're full AD? Pick X. They're full AP? Pick X. By making champions more niche and having things they're good at (such as busting shields) and things they're bad at it forces people to pick different things if they wanna have a larger chance to win. You don't need hard counters where you auto-win/lose, but at least soft counters so you have to vary your picks up depending on the teams.
Yes, and when you have champs like {{champion:82}} as he is now there are NO (consistent) COUNTERS. You've essentially created a pick that can be flexed into mid, top and jungle, all while being great in all of those roles and losing basically no matchups outside of niche picks which don't do anything outside of early game.
: > [{quoted}](name=KazKaz,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ZQ1R3ku3,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-06T11:53:48.054+0000) > > I main Kat and even I think that's hella dumb. at your level picks are mostly just flavor choices. At higher tiers in better regions or in competitive this is a good change.
> [{quoted}](name=1 516 735 3508,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ZQ1R3ku3,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-07-06T16:28:42.513+0000) > > at your level picks are mostly just flavor choices. At higher tiers in better regions or in competitive this is a good change. No, it's dumb. She does enough damage as is.
: Unpopular Opinion: People complain about League's balance while not knowing enough about balance
{{champion:82}} ? You're essentially saying that in order to balance League there should always be a single pick or multiple picks that are so prevalent you NEED to pick around them no matter what to win; assuming you don't just ban them away just so the game actually feels healthy, fun, interactive and dynamic? Sorry, I'm not buying it. If this is your argument then honestly they should just revert Ryze back to his URF mode rework and bring back Abyssal Scepter, because even if they did that there would still be more diversity than when Mordekaiser is left unbanned. Oh, and let's also bring back Akali's "Obscure" mechanic, un-nerf Irelia and un-nerf Poppy, because hey why not, you think oppressive picks are fun for the whole family! You want my two cents on how to balance the game? Stop releasing new champions that introduce new and broken mechanics/features to the game, stop making drastic changes to items and fix the champs who are already in the game. How do you do that last part? By reverting Runes Reforged and removing aspects of specific champion's kits which are inherently unhealthy and unfun to face, such as Vayne's new 50% CDR reduction on Tumble during ult. Honestly, it's not that difficult, Riot just has to not let the small children inside of them overpower them and bring about the next "League of Black Cleavers".
: Katarina fix
I main Kat and even I think that's hella dumb.
Moody P (NA)
: sure, remove conqueror and nerf Darius armor pen for his E range back
: Yup, Top is a shithole. But I am proud of it, since it is my shit hole.
I'm with the GP main on this one, GP really isn't comparable to TK, Karma or Kennen at all. He's at least a full tier down from them.
: Lets say they make the map only a little larger (total area) but rearranged the jg and pathways. Do you think that would help?
It was literally just a slightly less-stat'd Deathfire Grasp.
: Qiyana is fine
Give her a tiny bit more range on brush Q and fix up her buggy ultimate knockback+hitbox and the champ is fine. Also nerf wall Q and buff her base HP slightly.
Lovelle (NA)
: No pls, anything but the torch. Teemo and Brand are strong enough without it. I can only imagine how broken it would be on Mordekaiser.
Teemo+Brand would just build other items most games due to the fact it does nothing in terms of solving mana problems and there being better options. It would just be a fun item. I mean, the map already promotes the playing of BS bruisers, so why not just go all-in on TFT being DOTA levels of broken/unbalanced. Mord though, I do see your problem, but to be fair he wouldn't _really_ want it either, at least not first item.
: Do you think stretching the map in general would help? like, increase the distance by say 20%
I suppose? I don't quite know since 20% of something quite short is still quite short.
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