: Women place is in the kitchen making sandwiches.
> [{quoted}](name=Just Jangle,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ronWxA7t,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2018-08-19T19:52:08.359+0000) > > Women place is in the kitchen making sandwiches. Thanks for your input but we don't need this, thanks.
: Why did the enemy team say "sup gay bois" in all chat when i aint even gay??
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: I find funny how quickly this is dismissed by the community actually. If it _was_ just hearsay and rumors that would be one thing but there are testimonials of people who actually worked there. You can maybe say they're all lying for whatever reasons (not sure anyone can think of any reasons why they'd lie at this point) but the fact that there isn't even any concern actually kinda looks bad towards the games community as well. Sure, maybe the person who was trying to hire a woman was a bit misguided in a way but people do this _all. the. time._. People hire their friends, family, and people of similar race/religion. It happens all the time. This doesn't excuse the fact that there may be something wrong with riot internally. >when the article itself is sexist One wrong doesn't excuse another. This is a logical fallacy and just a greasy excuse to defend a company you might like or a game you might like. You might just want to defend it because gamergate has actually left a really bad aftertaste in the gaming community as a whole. Gamers are more brazenly quick to dismiss any kind of foul play when it comes to gender, almost to the point where actual evidence isn't even good enough. Btw, there is evidence, granted not "hard evidence" but shouldn't be this easily dismissed. It's a little frightening actually.
> [{quoted}](name=TheDevice,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ronWxA7t,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2018-08-19T18:56:08.387+0000) > > I find funny how quickly this is dismissed by the community actually. If it _was_ just hearsay and rumors that would be one thing but there are testimonials of people who actually worked there. You can maybe say they're all lying for whatever reasons (not sure anyone can think of any reasons why they'd lie at this point) but the fact that there isn't even any concern actually kinda looks bad towards the games community as well. > > Sure, maybe the person who was trying to hire a woman was a bit misguided in a way but people do this _all. the. time._. People hire their friends, family, and people of similar race/religion. It happens all the time. This doesn't excuse the fact that there may be something wrong with riot internally. > > One wrong doesn't excuse another. This is a logical fallacy and just a greasy excuse to defend a company you might like or a game you might like. You might just want to defend it because gamergate has actually left a really bad aftertaste in the gaming community as a whole. Gamers are more brazenly quick to dismiss any kind of foul play when it comes to gender, almost to the point where actual evidence isn't even good enough. > > Btw, there is evidence, granted not "hard evidence" but shouldn't be this easily dismissed. It's a little frightening actually. If there is actually a case to be had, lawyers would be fighting each other to get a piece of that sweet big pie already. Imagine getting set for life from just 1 case, the "bad" lawyers can't get enough of it; and imagine resolving such blatant injustice in such a high profile company, the "good" lawyer would've been in action before you know it. Given there is only 1 article and basically nothing coming out of it afterwards so far, not even other outlets writing about it iirc, it is at least reasonable to assume that the article likely exaggerated the situation quite a bit; and that the issue if exists, is probably just the behaviour (or misbehaviour rather) of a couple individuals rather than specific about Riot's internal culture as claimed. But who knows.
: @Riot: After 8 years, can we finally know who your announcer’s voice actress is?
Maybe it was Preak with a voice/pitch-alter software.
: So i was randomly caught up in a TV-tropes reading spree and came across the star guardian's origin?
Star Guardian mostly came from Sailor Moon, the anime that defines the Magical Girl genre. The skin line is also partly inspired by Puella Magi Madoka Magica, in particular the part where the girls become Magical Girls via signing a contract that the real intent and nature they don't really know much about.
Mare102 (EUNE)
: [Skin Concept] Vampire Zoe
Zoe also plays like a vampire who sucks out all the fun out of the game and drains the lives and souls of those who're unfortunate enough to be stuck in the same match with her. Definitely a Yes from me.
S0kaX (EUNE)
: Has anyone seen Ivern this season?
Ivern is the new Urgot.
SEKAI (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=LeAnime,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FzBRnzpf,comment-id=000300000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-18T21:11:20.582+0000) > > I know I was > > Lol what a single target melee silence is nothing like a AoE ranged pull > > Garen already used his with the engage > > Garen has dps Darius had instant damage. > > Glad we can have a civil discussion. Hope it was as productive for you as it was for me. It's funny how you would say that a meat pie and a cherry pie are different on the basis of their different fillings, and you will never acknowledge that they ultimately, are both pies. Meanwhile, you would also insist on calling bread and noodles the same thing, on the basis that they are both wheat products. Let it sink in. I'm done. ...... EDIT: I was also talking about the Darius' AA mod slow when comparing with Garen's Q. But ofc, being so intentionally obtuse, you can't do simple compare and contrast. EDIT2: This is not a productive talk. Talking with a wall is more productive than this. Because at least no blatant bullshit comes back in my direction when I talk to it.
> [{quoted}](name=LeAnime,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FzBRnzpf,comment-id=00030000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-18T21:27:41.409+0000) > > Actually comical just because they are both supports doesn't mean inherently they are more similar than champions in two different classes. > > If anything Thresh and Blitzcrank are like two different museums where they are called the same thing and have similar ideas but have way different exhibits compared to an impatiens plant and a New Guinea impatiens plant they may look a little different but they are almost identical in nature. 3 out of 4 spells of both champs are just alternative versions of each other, and they are both supports with almost identical function/uses and play pattern (combo, builds, whatever). How much more evidence do you need to say they are not copies? What, you can look at 2 meat pies with slightly different seasonings and call them completely different things? And this wouldn't even be that big of a deal if you hadn't also basically called bread and cookies to be the same thing. I don't get you, and I will never get you.
LeAnime (NA)
: > specifically said the "original" Darius for a reason. I know I was >They are both played by initiating with a CC Lol what a single target melee silence is nothing like a AoE ranged pull >condition the enemy with an AA mod Garen already used his with the engage >spins to DPS Garen has dps Darius had instant damage. >But then again, if you really have to go so far to pretend that you're dumb and are not seeing the blatant lies you're defending. Then maybe you're really just that dumb. Glad we can have a civil discussion. Hope it was as productive for you as it was for me.
> [{quoted}](name=LeAnime,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FzBRnzpf,comment-id=000300000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-18T21:11:20.582+0000) > > I know I was > > Lol what a single target melee silence is nothing like a AoE ranged pull > > Garen already used his with the engage > > Garen has dps Darius had instant damage. > > Glad we can have a civil discussion. Hope it was as productive for you as it was for me. It's funny how you would say that a meat pie and a cherry pie are different on the basis of their different fillings, and you will never acknowledge that they ultimately, are both pies. Meanwhile, you would also insist on calling bread and noodles the same thing, on the basis that they are both wheat products. Let it sink in. I'm done. ...... EDIT: I was also talking about the Darius' AA mod slow when comparing with Garen's Q. But ofc, being so intentionally obtuse, you can't do simple compare and contrast. EDIT2: This is not a productive talk. Talking with a wall is more productive than this. Because at least no blatant bullshit comes back in my direction when I talk to it.
LeAnime (NA)
: Again I fail to see how Garen and Darius are that similar. They are both fighters true but they accomplished their goals in completely different playstyles. Also they are supposed to be semi similar they are direct rivals that are both soldiers.
> [{quoted}](name=LeAnime,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FzBRnzpf,comment-id=0003000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-18T20:47:35.879+0000) > > Again I fail to see how Garen and Darius are that similar. They are both fighters true but they accomplished their goals in completely different playstyles. Also they are supposed to be semi similar they are direct rivals that are both soldiers. I specifically said the "original" Darius for a reason. And I also hammered on the USE and INTENT for a reason. The original Darius is played identically as Garen, just with minor technicality differences. They are both played by conditioning the enemy with an AA mod CC, spins to DPS, and finishes the fight by literal dunking. All of the new elements that Darius is now known for like his bleed stack and his layered and delayed spin are added by the rework; the original Darius is just an alternative design and a more damage oriented Garen, with the only truly meaningful and distinct difference being having a pull as opposed to a MS steroid that Garen has. It's not hard to see that the 2 designs are basically what happens when a student copies another's art assignment hours before deadline. 2 champs with guns is not copying. But 2 champs with guns who are both hit-and-run marksmen, that both use 6 shell reload, and both have manual sniping as their ulti, is copying each other. Kai'Sa and Kha'Zix are not copies, Blitz and Thresh are copies. But then again, if you really have to go so far to pretend that you're dumb and are not seeing the blatant lies you're defending. Then maybe you're really just that dumb.
LeAnime (NA)
: The easiest way to say it it that Kai'Sa and Kha'Zix are more similar in playstyle than Thresh and Blitzcrank. That is a fact. Now arguing who's abilities are more similar I still think you are wrong but to each their own.
> [{quoted}](name=LeAnime,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FzBRnzpf,comment-id=00030000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-18T20:37:54.482+0000) > > The easiest way to say it it that Kai'Sa and Kha'Zix are more similar in playstyle than Thresh and Blitzcrank. That is a fact. Now arguing who's abilities are more similar I still think you are wrong but to each their own. That is not a fact. There is a reason why we don't say Vayne and Rengar are the same champion. Because that's the level of difference between Kai'Sa and Kha'Zix. The difference here is the USE and INTENT. The relationship between Blitzcrank and Thresh is the same between Garen and the original Darius, where the latter of both cases of comparisons are both used in the same manner and fulfill the same role, just with slight alteration to the original but no fundamental transformation in the core ideas ("transformative", a term highly valued in determining copyright infringement and plagiarism). Incidentally, Thresh and Darius are both works of the same designer.
LeAnime (NA)
: I love when people are hypocritical. Kai'Sa Q - Does more damage to isolated targets because shots all go to one target. When it evolves it gives more damage. Kha'Zix Q - Does more damage to isolated targets. When it evolves it lowers the lowers the cooldown on isolated targets to it increases damage because it is up more frequently. Kai'Sa W - Ranged linear skillshot damages first target hit. Kha'Zix W - Ranged linear skillshot damages first target hit small explosion of AoE damage. Kai'Sa E - Burst of MS and then gives AS. Evolution gives invisibility. Kha'Zix R - Burst of MS and invisibility. Kai'Sa R - Long range dash and gives shield. Kha'Zix E - short range dash. Evolution makes it long range and gives reset. Passives are a little different I do agree but they are pretty similar and they are both from the Void.
As what I was saying, as far as mechanics are concerned, they are totally unrelated outside of the fact they both have momentary invisibility used for the purpose of dueling, and I guess they both have void themes. That's where their similarity ends. **EDIT** Kai'Sa's evolution is no different to other conditional stat grant in the game like Rengar's empowerment and his Bonetooth Necklace, Renekton's rage-empowered abilities, Cho'gath's growth, Viktor's Hex Core and whatnot. They all have a different flair of their own, and Kai'Sa is not exclusively related to Kha'Zix; it's just that they share a void theme and something to do with "evolution" so people place them together. ......... if you are going so far to say that even things like the very notion of doing damage or having a dash itself or skillshot means Kai'Sa is a copy of Kha'Zix, then every champ and every and anything is a copy of each other. The spells are not designed with the same purpose and uses, and champs are not played with remotely the same playstyle nor fulfill the same role, then they are not alternatives to the same overall design. And what's worse, you can go so far to contrived-ly declare very different objects as the same (to the point you're basically saying everything is the same to each other) but still defend the clearly similar subjects of Blitz and Thresh as different.
LeAnime (NA)
: The ways these abilities interact with the kit are way different. And the playstyle of the champions are extremely different just because abilities have general concepts that are similar doesn't make the abilities similar or even the champion. Kha'Zix and Kai'Sa have nearly identical kits if you just swap one of their E ability with their R. Doesn't mean they are similar.
> [{quoted}](name=LeAnime,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FzBRnzpf,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-18T19:44:13.974+0000) > > The ways these abilities interact with the kit are way different. And the playstyle of the champions are extremely different just because abilities have general concepts that are similar doesn't make the abilities similar or even the champion. Kha'Zix and Kai'Sa have nearly identical kits if you just swap one of their E ability with their R. Doesn't mean they are similar. What a load of BS, Kha'Zix is totally different to Kai'Sa. * Firstly, Kha'Zix's evolution is actively chosen by the player upon leveling up the ulti, Kai'Sa's evolution comes passively by meeting the stat requirement with item builds and can lose her evolution at any time whenever she fails to meet the stat benchmark. * Secondly, there is nothing in Kai'Sa's kit that remotely behaves like Kha'Zix's Unseen Threat and Isolation passives, similarly Kha'Zix has no such thing like Kai'Sa's AA stacks let alone how it plays into the rest of her kit. * Thirdly, Kha'Zix's Q is a point and click/lock-on melee nuke that gets even stronger if the target is alone, while Kai'Sa's Q while CAN be a nuke but it is ranged and is only actually a nuke under the condition of when Kai'Sa meets the enemy entirely alone and have no real control over her targets as it seeks to evenly distribute its missiles to surrounding enemies both champs and minions present. Unless you consider the idea of doing damage means a concept is copied, otherwise they are as good as being unrelated. * Fourthly, Kha'Zix's W is a poke and a DPS dealer and potentially a lockdown upon evolving it, Kai'Sa's W is a long ranged probe ability that function as a vision provider and tag for her ulti as well as the stacking which then can be upgraded to improve her capability in extended fights but otherwise the probe itself doesn't do much in terms of the upfront effects. As far as they are concerned, they are completely unrelated spells. * Fifthly, their E are totally different spells. Only Kai'Sa's EVOLVED E is similar to Kha'Zix's EVOLVED R, and she has no multi-cast. * Sixthly, their R are totally different spells. * Seventhly, Kha'Zix is an assassin and Kai'Sa is a marksmen, with completely different general play pattern and entirely different builds and roles in the game/team. Oh, what's this? They are totally different champs that just so happens to have a nuke and some kinda ranged spell and momentary invisibility in their ability sets, and you can't on those grounds say the champs that have are **MADE differently and PLAYED differently** the same, but ignore and pretend the champs that are actually **MADE almost identically and PLAYED almost identically** like Blitz and Thresh as actually different? Or do you suppose Vayne is the same as Kai'Sa or even Kha'Zix, too? But oh no, no, no, even when the clearly different are the same to you, the clearly the similar like Blitz and Thresh still look absolutely different in your eyes. **_If anything, the only similarity between Kai'Sa and Kha'Zix is the momentary invisibility, which are both primarily used to duel better (though Kha'Zix has the added benefit of using it to engage better). And that's it. That's a hella less than the kind of situation that goes on between Blitz and Thresh._** What a joke.
Jamaree (NA)
: Where are you getting this 40% though because the site I’m checking. Says he has 48%, so a little weak but not in the dumpster like you state. https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champion/Shen/
> [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gjvaUdFE,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-15T21:04:41.138+0000) > > Where are you getting this 40% though because the site I’m checking. Says he has 48%, so a little weak but not in the dumpster like you state. > > https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champion/Shen/ https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champion/Shen/graphs/ From the same site, check the divisional breakdown. OP probably rounded downwards, given Shen's current Diamond win rate is 44.9%.
LeAnime (NA)
: >You do realise Nautilus, Alistar, Leona, Blitzcrank, Taric, and loosely Zilean were all made before and used as supports specialising on providing utility and lock-downs prior to Thresh, right? Nautilus has no utility besides cc, Alistar has a tiny heal as utility, Blitz as only cc, Zilean is unique put I was also saying fun for a large group of people which Zilean is not. >Hell, CertainlyT ripped off 75% of Blitz's kit to be modified into Thresh, so why do we talk as if Thresh is such a good revolution when it is more like the opening of the Pandora's Box? Hooks are not true but it is more like an optional Nautilus hook then like blitz, Lantern is super unique and nothing like blitz, flay has so many more uses than blitz e, and lastly the ultimate is his most bland ability and it is nothing like blitz. So idk how his kit is stolen from blitz.
> [{quoted}](name=LeAnime,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FzBRnzpf,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-08-18T19:14:31.511+0000) > > Nautilus has no utility besides cc, Alistar has a tiny heal as utility, Blitz as only cc, Zilean is unique put I was also saying fun for a large group of people which Zilean is not. > > Hooks are not true but it is more like an optional Nautilus hook then like blitz, Lantern is super unique and nothing like blitz, flay has so many more uses than blitz e, and lastly the ultimate is his most bland ability and it is nothing like blitz. So idk how his kit is stolen from blitz. Let's not be intentionally ignorant and play the "I'm so dumb" game. Thresh and Blitz, outside of the difference in their W, they play almost identically. Their Q, E, and R are just alternative designs of the same spells, going so far to even match each other's buttons; and needless to say, they are used in the same way: Q is to hook, E is to knockup the enemy either as a part of the combo or the initiator, and blast the AoE CC ultimate/R in the middle of the fight that disables multiple opponents up to the entire enemy team to turn the tides. You'd be in seriously denial if you actually believe Thresh and Blitz aren't alternative version of the same gameplay design. Hell, Thresh apparently needed a shield too (on W) just like Blitz (passive), I guess CertainlyT has to go all the way with his shenanigans with Thresh that day. When a designer is put to design, and in this case, a champion. Making up 1 single spell for the champ and then blatantly copy the rest from another before modifying it to try and pretend that they made the damn thing, is not okay. If Thresh was an essay or assignment, CertainlyT clearly would've failed the damn thing, because it is as obvious of a plagiarism as it can get. It is not okay.
LeAnime (NA)
: Stop With CertainlyT
You do realise Nautilus, Alistar, Leona, Blitzcrank, Taric, and loosely Zilean, and a few others that can perform similar functions for the role, were made before and used as supports specialising on providing utility and lock-downs prior to the inception of Thresh, right? If Thresh changed anything, it's introducing edgy character designs in the support roster. And that's kinda it; which incidentally, Thresh also one of the most glaring case of narrative-dissonance in the entirely of the League's roster, who is played as a benevolent support who interacts and help the others in need, when in reality Thresh is a malevolent, murderous, sadistic, and psychotic loner. At least Pyke gives his lane partners a "cut" to signify the kind of relationship he is having by supporting in-game, meanwhile Thresh's gameplay outright makes 0 sense to his character, and almost his entire gameplay design is there just because CertainlyT can't think of a way to actually do an evil support so they just made a standard support but gave him skulls and 'darkness'. Damn, what a great leap forward amiright? Hell, speaking of gameplay design, CertainlyT simply ripped off 75% of Blitz's kit to be modified into Thresh, so why do we talk as if Thresh is such a good revolution when it is more like the opening of the Pandora's Box?
Rioter Comments
Rude Name (OCE)
: Comprehensive list of champion pairs
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: Things you never really think about.
It's actually more extreme. Panth doesn't seem to even wear underwears. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/rTlMr44-86o/maxresdefault.jpg (one of the official art from the map graphics update days)
Paroe (NA)
: Excited. Dude makes some good champions who suffer from number problems and some bad ideas (in practice). Dont blame the designer for the numbers - its a designers job to make the blueprint and guide the aesthetic, not put things into concrete.
> [{quoted}](name=Paroe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HwE80x2d,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-08-18T06:14:25.869+0000) > > Excited. Dude makes some good champions who suffer from number problems and some bad ideas (in practice). > Dont blame the designer for the numbers - its a designers job to make the blueprint and guide the aesthetic, not put things into concrete. Besides Darius (discounting WW rework which CertainlyT was only just a proxy of Reav3 at the time of making it), none of his creations came into the game with only a number issue. His design itself, has always been the problem. Also, I always laugh at the incredibly contrived apologetic response that "its a designers job to make the blueprint" or whatever shit in that vein, claiming that his failure is all balance team's issue and CertainlyT should just be a kid with a crayon pack or some shit with 0 obligation nor responsibility (while being paid in 6 figures). **Let me ask you, is it the writer's job to write the story, or is it the editor's?** So why is it that when a fail champion designer is not doing their job, it's supposedly the balance team's fault for not doing the work for him (which they have, countless times now. Say what you want about the questionable decisions the balance team has made, but you can't deny that with nonsense designer like CertainlyT making their job harder every single day, anyone would go batshit crazy) and that the said designer has no responsibility to make an actually good and balance-able champ in the first place? Imagine if someone wrote something and sent it to a publisher to try and publish it, and the editors ended up rejecting it because it had 0 substance, was grammatically broken, and/or narrative incomprehensible, or whatever, and then you showed up there, criticising the editors for not re-writing the entire story for the writer. That's insanity.
Ifneth (NA)
: CertainlyT Making Another Champion
Urgh, my only question is: Why?
: Image of LoL in advertising of other game
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Trauja (EUW)
: People complain about Ahri but can we nerf Jax?
https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/awbjJghz-can-we-talk-about-how-bullshit-jax-is?show=flat
: Confess
I rage uncontrollably in-game, and always feel kind of bad afterwards. But then the next game I rage again..
: > [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=alunL2lf,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-08-17T15:47:00.286+0000) > > I mean, there are Caitlyn's Yordle Snap Trap, almost exclusively. Or things like Xayah being a blatant racial supremacist. > > So yeah... > > Rated T for Teen. How is Xayah a blatant racial supremacist?
> [{quoted}](name=Get Ogre Here,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=alunL2lf,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-08-17T16:45:33.444+0000) > > How is Xayah a blatant racial supremacist? She basically says Vastayan did everything and is responsible for everything, and she is here to "collect the debt". She also claims that she'd be a "war criminal" one day, which sends all sort of strange vibes given her quest to push everybody but the Vastayans out of Ionia (by that I mean, she kills everyone who is not a Vastayan). Xayah also expresses glee when she kills any other champs, with the sole exception of Vastayans, which only then she may express varying levels sympathy; however when up against someone like say Nami who is of positive relationship with other races, or Ahri who is half-Vastayan but want to be seen as a human, Xayah would flat out calls them "Mu'takl" which according to Riot's translation, it means "race traitor" in Vastayan language. It's pretty clear that Xayah is a racist, and worse on the supremacist side of things.
: We bitching about jax now? The last good bruiser top laner left? Really guys?
> [{quoted}](name=ChristmasEvelynn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=awbjJghz,comment-id=0010,timestamp=2018-08-17T15:53:04.025+0000) > > We bitching about jax now? The last good bruiser top laner left? Really guys? There is a reason why I included the stats as the very first line of the post. Consistent 52%+ win rate across all elos with good play rate is more than just "good".
: Racist aram shopkeeper!
I mean, there are Caitlyn's Yordle Snap Trap, almost exclusively. Or things like Xayah being a blatant racial supremacist. So yeah... Rated T for Teen.
Elixors (NA)
: Build thornmail first item along with tabis and he's useless lmao
> [{quoted}](name=Elixors,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=awbjJghz,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2018-08-17T15:35:53.293+0000) > > Build thornmail first item along with tabis and he's useless lmao Am I supposed to do that when playing Ashe too?
: Jax isn't bullshit. Conqueror is. I thought we learned that so far with Yi, Tryndamere, Yasuo and Irelia smh...
> [{quoted}](name=DoktorKaiser,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=awbjJghz,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2018-08-17T14:43:58.535+0000) > > Jax isn't bullshit. Conqueror is. I thought we learned that so far with Yi, Tryndamere, Yasuo and Irelia smh... https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champion/Jax/ According to LoLalytics, Jax hits 'positive' win rate from 5 different keystones, including the obvious suspects like Press the Attack and Conqueror but also the somewhat unlikely keystone of Grasp of the Undying. So basically, Jax is strong almost regardless of his major keystones. I am convinced it's a champ problem in this case, and not just the keystone. This isn't to say there aren't broken keystones, but the issues for Jax should be principally on Jax himself.
: Is that high or low for those of us who don't know the numbers of all 130+ champs?
> [{quoted}](name=Oleandervine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=52kpUbXr,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-08-16T21:08:24.610+0000) > > Is that high or low for those of us who don't know the numbers of all 130+ champs? http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_champions%27_attack_damage One can see Karthus is the champ with the 2nd _lowest_ level 1 base AD in the entire game, the lowest being Orianna (standing at 40.368, a significant drop even from the second lowest level 1 AD in the game of Karthus' 45.66). If we were to consider growth, then at level 18, Karthus sits at #17 in terms of the _lowest_ base AD. ..... Also fun fact: the highest level 1 AD in the game is owned by Rakan at 70 AD.
Memøry (EUNE)
: a challenger player opinion on the balance team and the state of game atm.
> in Korea they don't ban people cus of their language and that is why the region is so competitive and successful. BM and competitiveness are not one and only. KR is so competitive because there is actually a big industry for it and money and effort poured into the scene, not because people there BM like no tomorrow or whatever shit you like to claim. I'm sure Muhammad Ali or Michael Jordan or whoever didn't became the well recognised #1 of their respective field because they BM or whatnot, but because they put in more effort than anybody else. Speaking of the toxicity in KR, the server is extremely toxic with rage-quits and slurs being passed around like hotcakes. You really want a piece of that shit pie?
Rioter Comments
: Its not even akali's damage that pisses me off
She can still be hit with non-lockon attacks, so skillshots and AoE will still work. It's not that big of a problem if you can see her, or at least it isn't the most stupid aspect of the shroud. The biggest problem is that if she uses it in the middle of the lane, it basically turns the entire fucking lane into a no-go zone with its ridiculous size, the fact you don't know where she is in it on top of the fact she gains MS when inside of it making hitting her with spells even harder. It's not even like old Akali where she either comes to you or she doesn't, but she has to get free-point mobility too now because why not? That's extremely annoying.
Takazaki (NA)
: 1) So you get lane control? 2) if your spamming weak shit at him you'll chip away, the goal is to keep his shield on CD to FORCE his WW. the second WW is down that is your big window to punish him for not capitalizing on its use.
> [{quoted}](name=Takazaki,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XqIQz2cY,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-08-16T10:52:41.620+0000) > > 1) So you get lane control? > > 2) if your spamming weak shit at him you'll chip away, the goal is to keep his shield on CD to FORCE his WW. the second WW is down that is your big window to punish him for not capitalizing on its use. You're ignoring the fact Yasuo has approaching infinite in-lane mobility, and can harass back more so than the enemy the vast majority of the time on top of the windwall. And ofc, the Yasuo player can have a brain, and not use the wall unless absolutely necessary; and he can do that anyway, given the broken hitbox coding of the W that's so huge even shooting it in the opposite direction of the spell can still block the said enemy projectile. In other words, as long as the Yasuo actually has a brain, the only person you'll be baiting in the context of laning, is yourself. There is a reason why Yasuo just bends almost all ranged champ over by default in the lane without any contest. His design is fundamentally the problem.
: Thanks for not giving Nunu the ability to dash over walls in the rework
It's likely a bug. if intended, there would be a jumping animation intended to run through or flip over something. This just looks like Willump doing a hop at the start of the snowball sequence and it glitches him over a wall.
: If you're looking for a safe space, competition isn't for you.
If you're just looking to bm, competition isn't for you.
: Unpopular opinion : I hate "honor"
Most people just honour someone randomly, or honour the best performing teammate in the game anyway (as long as they don't blatantly trash-talk and insult the opponent; though there is a catch, if you perform way too good, you might not receive honour, because your team might think you'll get honour either way and they all go and honour someone else which results in the carrying teammate getting 0 honour). So it's not like everyone is trying to be a "kiss-ass".
: > [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=tGQjwUYg,comment-id=000300010001000000000001000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-15T18:22:33.063+0000) > > I have no idea who that lady is, but I assume you're using her as a reason why that quote was wrong. A white woman who claimed to be black for decades while being one of the LEADING MEMBERS of an NAACP branch, who in no (substantial) way shape nor form has any black in her, yet has claimed to be black and now claims to be trans-racially black. These types of people exist because, according to you, > [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=tGQjwUYg,comment-id=0003000100010000000000010001000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-15T17:47:14.936+0000) > > the majority lies in culture, because the genetic differences between individuals and "races" are negligible and tiny
> [{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=tGQjwUYg,comment-id=00030001000100000000000100010000000000000000000000000003,timestamp=2018-08-15T19:49:50.805+0000) > > Did you not say that Culture is more of a defining factor of a race than genetics? > > It definitely looks like you're saying that Culture is the majority of what defines a race, moreso than genetics. It definitely, DEFINITELY looks like you're saying that "Genetics isn't the be-all-end-ll of ethnicity" which is right, but not at all the conversation topic because we're discussing race, and that "the majority lies in culture." Are those not your quotes? Did you not say that Culture is the majority of what defines a race? > > Did you not say that, despite the number of times I'm quoting you saying exactly that? What separates a Chinese from a Japanese, or a Spanish and a Portuguese, or a British and a French, etc? Because they are basically genetically identical with their subject of comparison in the grand scheme of things. Obviously, the difference lies in culture. So It's obvious that culture takes a higher priority in the defining factor in comparison to genetics. It's not that hard to reach such a conclusion. And when I said that your argument was bad in your last reply, because it was a textbook example of strawman argument, wherein instead of arguing against one's argument directly, you use a "strawman", a single token that you believe invalidates all of the opponent's reasoning. Obviously that is a false thinking, because a single token, especially an extremified case, does not singlehandedly defy an idea, statement, or fact. Also, if you want to reply, please reply directly to me and not to your own posts while quoting me.
: > [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=tGQjwUYg,comment-id=000300010001000000000001000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-15T18:22:33.063+0000) > > I have no idea who that lady is, but I assume you're using her as a reason why that quote was wrong. A white woman who claimed to be black for decades while being one of the LEADING MEMBERS of an NAACP branch, who in no (substantial) way shape nor form has any black in her, yet has claimed to be black and now claims to be trans-racially black. These types of people exist because, according to you, > [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=tGQjwUYg,comment-id=0003000100010000000000010001000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-15T17:47:14.936+0000) > > the majority lies in culture, because the genetic differences between individuals and "races" are negligible and tiny
> [{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=tGQjwUYg,comment-id=00030001000100000000000100010000000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2018-08-15T19:28:45.389+0000) > > So you think it's justifiable that a white woman can claim she's black just because she likes what black people do? > > Ok That's completely irrelevant to what I'm saying. It's like I'm saying you're over-exaggerating the effects of drinking alcohol and listing what truly happens and doesn't happen when you drink, and you give me this shit claiming that my argument is invalid because there is this nutjob who went apeshit and punched 50 people after a standard drink. What.
Fasmodey (EUW)
: She doesn't have epicanthus (and I have epicanthus so I know what it is). She doesn't have low nasal bridge, I would say it is normal nasal bridge. She has almond shaped eyes and double eyelids. Her head shape gives her the asian look, not her facial features. Her features are mostly caucasian.
> [{quoted}](name=Fasmodey,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=tGQjwUYg,comment-id=00130000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-15T19:21:43.106+0000) > > She doesn't have epicanthus (and I have epicanthus so I know what it is). > > She doesn't have low nasal bridge, I would say it is normal nasal bridge. > > She has almond shaped eyes and double eyelids. > > Her head shape gives her the asian look, not her facial features. > > Her features are mostly caucasian. That's just your own "opinion", which I don't consider it so, because that's factually false. Slanted eyes is a feature that exists on East Asian descents and some of the people in the Scandinavian descents. It is a convergent evolutionary traits speculated to have evolved to combat cold climates, which both of the groups mentioned while were living in different regions but evolved under similar cold climates. It's a signature trait of East Asian heritage when combined with other factors of the same vein such as low nose bridge, black hair, etc. Ahri definitely has slanted eyes, because her eyes' corners are of sharp acute angle, and and her eyes of generally of a narrower shape. She also has low nasal bridge. When we say "low" nasal bridge in Asian, we are NOT saying that Asian people have _**no**_ nasal bridge, just not that prominent. Ahri's nose bridge only angles out at about the levels of the eyes, that's what we call a low nasal bridge. If you are a wearer of glasses and also an Asian like I am, you will be far more sensitive to the nose bridge stuff, because Asian's low nose bridge such as the one possessed by Ahri has caused significant distraught to us given glasses are typically made with European faces in mind where the nose-bridge is higher and the nose bridge begins above the eye level, with shorter legs for the nose pads on the glasses; and so Asians push-up their glasses more frequently (or in other words, glasses slide on Asian faces easier) given the loose hold of the nose pads and bad weight distribution of the glasses from insufficient length of the pads' legs. Asians' eyes are also perfectly able to be almond-shaped (Ahri's eyes aren't really almond-shaped anyway) and have double eyelids (which I also don't think she has given her splash art. I think she has a faint one near the eye corner there, though, but really not that noticeable)..... you know. https://runes.lol/image/generated/championtiles/Ahri.jpg
: > [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=tGQjwUYg,comment-id=000300010001000000000001000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-15T18:22:33.063+0000) > > I have no idea who that lady is, but I assume you're using her as a reason why that quote was wrong. A white woman who claimed to be black for decades while being one of the LEADING MEMBERS of an NAACP branch, who in no (substantial) way shape nor form has any black in her, yet has claimed to be black and now claims to be trans-racially black. These types of people exist because, according to you, > [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=tGQjwUYg,comment-id=0003000100010000000000010001000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-15T17:47:14.936+0000) > > the majority lies in culture, because the genetic differences between individuals and "races" are negligible and tiny
> [{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=tGQjwUYg,comment-id=0003000100010000000000010001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-15T19:20:15.541+0000) > > A white woman who claimed to be black for decades while being one of the LEADING MEMBERS of an NAACP branch, who in no (substantial) way shape nor form has any black in her, yet has claimed to be black and now claims to be trans-racially black. These types of people exist because, according to you, I don't like repeating myself, but I said specifically that it is tiny because 1 to 5 difference in 1000 is objectively tiny, and then I further justify it saying that it is not super tiny but we tend to over-exaggerate its significance, and THEN I also said that it is also tiny in comparison to culture and other similar factors of which we truly consider the differences between heritage lies.
Fasmodey (EUW)
: > You are just accustomed to the signals the western medias have been sending for eons day and night, that Caucasian women are pretty and Asian women either look plain or """exotic"""/alien. Yeah, let's stop bullshiting about me. I never said that. There are thousands of beautiful asian women without plastic surgery. Ahri just doesn't look like them. It is my point, is it that hard to understand? This is a girl I find more natural than most of japanese celebrities and she is beautiful: https://previews.123rf.com/images/ken226/ken2261801/ken226180100031/93752978-bright-and-cute-japanese-women.jpg This woman looked better before plastic surgery in my eyes, and she is closer to Ahri after. https://images.medicaldaily.com/sites/medicaldaily.com/files/styles/headline/public/2013/08/04/0/78/7845.jpg Every single ethnicity has beautiful women and handsome men. If for someone caucasians have more amount of them than other race, it is probably because for their entire life they have lived among caucasian race (not implying it is true, just playing the possibilities). So judging someone because they find caucasian attractive more than asian is just pathetic. And it is just what you assume for me.
> [{quoted}](name=Fasmodey,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=tGQjwUYg,comment-id=001300000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-15T19:07:56.624+0000) > > Yeah, let's stop bullshiting about me. I never said that. > > There are thousands of beautiful asian women without plastic surgery. Ahri just doesn't look like them. It is my point, is it that hard to understand? > > This is a girl I find more natural than most of japanese celebrities and she is beautiful: > > https://previews.123rf.com/images/ken226/ken2261801/ken226180100031/93752978-bright-and-cute-japanese-women.jpg > > This woman looked better before plastic surgery in my eyes, and she is closer to Ahri after. > > https://images.medicaldaily.com/sites/medicaldaily.com/files/styles/headline/public/2013/08/04/0/78/7845.jpg > > Every single ethnicity has beautiful women and handsome men. If for someone caucasians have more amount of them than other race, it is probably because for their entire life they have lived among caucasian race (not implying it is true, just playing the possibilities). So judging someone because they find caucasian attractive more than asian is just pathetic. And it is just what you assume for me. Tell me how Ahri is not Asian and is more Caucasian or whatever. Ahri has low nose bridge, with epicanthic fold/ "slanted-eyes", with a full head of straight black hair, an iconic combination is as Asian, or East Asian, as it gets.
Fasmodey (EUW)
: https://images-cdn.9gag.com/images/thumbnail-facebook/24779752_1458925120.9334_a7yXUn_n.jpg Are you sure about that? Average european women is more comparable to Lux and Miss Fortune than average korean women to Ahri. Heck, average german women here look like Jennifer Lawrience. I'm not saying average korean women are ugly though. My point is, average korean women look like "asian" while Ahri doesn't. Ahri has too many white features to be your average korean women. She is whitened, same as korean celebrities.
> [{quoted}](name=Fasmodey,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=tGQjwUYg,comment-id=0013000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-15T18:47:28.178+0000) > > https://images-cdn.9gag.com/images/thumbnail-facebook/24779752_1458925120.9334_a7yXUn_n.jpg > > Are you sure about that? > > Average european women is more comparable to Lux and Miss Fortune than average korean women to Ahri. > > Heck, average german women here look like Jennifer Lawrience. > > I'm not saying average korean women are ugly though. My point is, average korean women look like "asian" while Ahri doesn't. Ahri has too many white features to be your average korean women. She is whitened, same as korean celebrities. They don't. That's just your own personal outlook. They all have wider faces, chin, and nose than Lux and MF, the same for the average Korean women to Ahri (outside of Ahri's clearly unnatural pupil colour). League female characters are almost all exaggerated to match an ideal version of female faces of of their respective source ethnicity of inspiration with small chin, thin nose, and whatever; regardless of any ethnicity, the characters' template for female characters in League don't have the same face as the average people, as fictions obviously tend to be You are just accustomed to the signals the western medias have been sending for eons day and night, that Caucasian women are prettier and Asian women either look super plain or """exotic"""/alien. And so you are more or less conditioned to believe that western people automatically look closer to the fictionalised ideal of their ethnic group than some others to their ethnic group's ideal.
Fasmodey (EUW)
: And still, average korean women don't look like Ahri...
> [{quoted}](name=Fasmodey,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=tGQjwUYg,comment-id=00130000000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-15T18:35:43.250+0000) > > And still, average korean women don't look like Ahri... An average white girl doesn't look like Emma Watson , and an average white girl also doesn't look like Lux or Miss Fortune too, what's the point?
Fasmodey (EUW)
: > You can say she has caucasian features and I can say she has korean features and neither of us would be wrong because both races share genetic qualities. Absolutely no. I couldn't disagree less. Among asians, koreans are the ethnicity with the least amount of people with double eyelids (even if they have, they are mostly not prominent). There is a reason why double eyelid surgery is the most popular in Korea... Ahri has significant (not hidden - prominent) double eyelids. Ahri looks like korean celebrities completely remade with plastic surgery that don't even look like their average citizen. And korean celebrities almost always prefer western features, like double eyelid, high nasal bridge, diamond face shape (which is the most rare in Asia and is have higher percentage in West). Ahri, our "asian" character, looks like korean celebrities whitened themselves with plastic surgery. And definitely doesn't look like average korean women without any touch of plastic surgery. https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--JQJs9qn5--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/18bpqlg6tlaudjpg.jpg I just can't believe how you to think korean celebrities are actually korean looking lol.
> [{quoted}](name=Fasmodey,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=tGQjwUYg,comment-id=001300000000,timestamp=2018-08-15T18:24:43.812+0000) > > Absolutely no. I couldn't disagree less. > > Among asians, koreans are the ethnicity with the least amount of people with double eyelid. There is a reason why double eyelid surgery is the most popular in Korea... Ahri has double eyelid. > > Ahri looks like korean celebrities completely remade with plastic surgery that don't even look like their average citizen. And korean celebrities almost always prefer western features, like double eyelid, high nasal bridge, diamond face shape (which is the most rare in Asia and is have higher percentage in West). > > Ahri, our "asian" character, looks like korean celebrities whitened themselves with plastic surgery. And definitely doesn't look like average korean women without any touch of plastic surgery. > > https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--JQJs9qn5--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/18bpqlg6tlaudjpg.jpg > > I just can't believe how you to think korean celebrities are actually korean looking lol. The Korean plastic surgeries are blown out of proportions, really. While it's true they seem to have some culture of doing cosmetic surgeries, but most people if they do it only go for minor surgeries. The massive overhauls are just niche cases. The reason being 1) it's obvious that most people aren't comfortable with massively overhauling their faces especially the chronic consequences that come with such an endeavour, and obviously 2) most people can't afford the cost of the damn thing. This is the face of AVERAGE Koreans. https://unitedfamily.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Blend-0051.png
: > [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=tGQjwUYg,comment-id=0003000100010000000000010001000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-15T17:47:14.936+0000) > > In fact, the majority lies in culture, because the genetic differences between individuals and "races" are negligible and tiny Rachel Dolezal. {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}} Moving on.
> [{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=tGQjwUYg,comment-id=00030001000100000000000100010000000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-15T18:06:46.909+0000) > > Rachel Dolezal. {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}} > > Moving on. I have no idea who that lady is, but I assume you're using her as a reason why that quote was wrong. Still, 1 to 5 in 1000 is really small (the genetic difference between people and ethnicity), as previously mentioned. And as I was saying, it's not impossibly small, but you're clearly blowing its significance out of proportion.
Fasmodey (EUW)
: Why do people think Karma is indian? I think she can look both african and indian, as how you want to see her. Completely depending on your perspective. Who did say she is indian? https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-KHUKWNqLM-4/WD9pHHck92I/AAAAAAABASQ/DlOfU3Lhi3I_HXl1gb5DIyi_cCB04cbbwCLcB/s1600/Karma_Splash_6.jpg Even though I know skins are not canon, Karma is clearly BLACK here. And if we are going from her base splash art, it is not clear because her eyes are looking down or closed. And I would say searching for completely black and asian champions in LoL is almost impossible either. Every single black and asian champions are kinda "caucasian'ed" and carry white features in LoL (and most of western games). Yasuo definitely doesn't have the average japanese man head shape and has a nose with high nasal bridge. Saying https://www.mobafire.com/images/champion/icon/ahri.png looks like average asian woman is delusional too. She is clearly your whitened asian girl with many white features. So, don't expect an average black woman, ever, in LoL. What you should expect is Rihanna, not Oprah Winfrey.
> [{quoted}](name=Fasmodey,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=tGQjwUYg,comment-id=0013,timestamp=2018-08-15T18:00:02.777+0000) > > Why do people think Karma is indian? I think she looks both african and indian. Who did say she is indian? > > https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-KHUKWNqLM-4/WD9pHHck92I/AAAAAAABASQ/DlOfU3Lhi3I_HXl1gb5DIyi_cCB04cbbwCLcB/s1600/Karma_Splash_6.jpg > > Even though I know skins are not canon, Karma is clearly BLACK here. And if we are going from her base splash art, it is not clear because her eyes are looking down or closed. http://riot-web-static.s3.amazonaws.com/images/news/March_2013/03_19_2013_-_karma_ama/LOL.com.Banner.Article.KarmaRework.jpg https://d2v9y0dukr6mq2.cloudfront.net/video/thumbnail/StJXJ2YPliygt86rx/videoblocks-close-up-girl-face-with-brown-eyes-make-up-and-the-national-indian-jewelry-portrait-of-indian-girl-with-kundan-jewelry_bvabascfz_thumbnail-small01.jpg > And I would say searching for completely black and asian champions in LoL is almost impossible either. Every single black and asian champions are kinda "caucasian'ed" and carry white features in LoL (and most of western games). > > Yasuo definitely doesn't have the average japanese man head shape and has a nose with high nasal bridge. https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/LOL_CMS_101_Article_01.jpg https://cdn1.quotesurf.com/img/435/6/742514-tadanobu-asano-quotes.jpg > Saying https://www.mobafire.com/images/champion/icon/ahri.png looks like average asian woman is delusional too. She is clearly your whitened asian girl with many white features. > > So, don't expect an average black woman, ever, in LoL. What you should expect is Rihanna, not Oprah Winfrey. https://www.mobafire.com/images/champion/icon/ahri.png https://learnmorefree.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/1.jpg (lighting and the clearly unnaturally coloured Ahri pupils aside, their facial features are more or less the same) .......... Also, these are the AVERAGE faces of East Asians, that is compiled by overlapping/merging people's faces. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/41/68/03/4168035f7398af31dca556a621cd72d7.jpg Combined faces of Korean (I think), Chinese, and Japanese celebrities respectively. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7e/32/13/7e3213eefa71381ab6d2c7829d73874e.jpg Average Indian faces male and female.
: OK. I agree. However, my point still stands the OP seems to be guilt-shaming Rito for not having a champion with features they want in the game more than anything else. There aren't any characters with South American features or customs, or Native American features or customs (Xayah and some other Ionians have themes around it, but there's no real resemblance). No one bats an eye. There aren't any champions that are deaf, despite having blind and mute champions. No one seems to care. I'm really just pointing out that the OP's post about not having a character with the specific shade of skin they wish seems petty at best and bait with the intention of starting a flame war at worst. Your point was completely valid. Generally speaking, when people say "black" in reference to a heritage in America, they are talking about Africans or African-Americans. Just want to clear that up.
> [{quoted}](name=Helixarrow,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=tGQjwUYg,comment-id=000300010001000000000001000100000001,timestamp=2018-08-15T17:48:15.279+0000) > > OK. I agree. > > However, my point still stands the OP seems to be guilt-shaming Rito for not having a champion with features they want in the game more than anything else. There aren't any characters with South American features or customs, or Native American features or customs (Xayah and some other Ionians have themes around it, but there's no real resemblance). No one bats an eye. > > There aren't any champions that are deaf, despite having blind and mute champions. No one seems to care. > > I'm really just pointing out that the OP's post about not having a character with the specific shade of skin they wish seems petty at best and bait with the intention of starting a flame war at worst. > > Your point was completely valid. Generally speaking, when people say "black" in reference to a heritage in America, they are talking about Africans or African-Americans. > > Just want to clear that up. Sure, no worries. > There aren't any champions that are deaf, despite having blind and mute champions. I'd kill for a deaf champ, though. Like they may have extreme eyesights or very sensitive touch senses that developed to compensate for the fact they couldn't hear; they may also walk with a signature hunch back in combat to minimise his size and chances of being hit from angles he couldn't hear coming but also to the extend time his hands are on the ground to detect incoming danger with his touch senses or something, and may even be a lover of high places given that's probably how they would feel safe given heir impaired hearing, etc etc etc; many elements to play around. It'd also be very interesting to see their worldview as well. But ayyy.
: > [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=tGQjwUYg,comment-id=00030001000100000000000100010000,timestamp=2018-08-15T17:39:46.996+0000) > > Let's not be intentionally context insensitive and tone-deaf. Even though you're claiming that people who aren't specifically from central Asia, who on a genetic level are Asian, aren't Asian? That's some pretty stealthy hypocrisy if you can't see it. [Insert Ninja joke]
> [{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=tGQjwUYg,comment-id=000300010001000000000001000100000000,timestamp=2018-08-15T17:43:25.207+0000) > > Even though you're claiming that people who aren't specifically from central Asia, who on a genetic level are Asian, aren't Asian? > > That's some pretty stealthy hypocrisy if you can't see it. [Insert Ninja joke] Do Nepal and China have remotely relate-able culture? Genetics isn't the be-all-and-all of ethnicity. In fact, the majority lies in culture, because the genetic differences between individuals and "races" are negligible and tiny and plays no part at all whatsoever beyond only a handful of visual cues (that only humans can identify because we've evolved to do exactly that, so to most animals, most humans have the same face just like how we look at other animals) and subtle differences that only matter if you're a doctor.
: > [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=tGQjwUYg,comment-id=00030000000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-15T17:29:27.009+0000) > > You can't deny and enforce the concept of the ethnic's differences at the same time, whenever and wherever it is convenient for you at the moment. Because that's what you are doing now. No, I definitely can, because people with common roots also hold differences. Two black people aren't entirely the same, and a white person and a black person aren't entirely different. You gotta understand this concept if you're gonna debate genetics.
> [{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=tGQjwUYg,comment-id=000300000002000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-15T17:36:10.289+0000) > > No, I definitely can, because people with common roots also hold differences. Two black people aren't entirely the same, and a white person and a black person aren't entirely different. You gotta understand this concept if you're gonna debate genetics. Going this logic, people are all the same. Because the genetic differences between 2 human begins range between a tiny meager amount of 0.1 to a max of 0.5 percent depending on your method of sampling. So that's 1 to 5 difference per 1000 nucleotides between 2 individuals. It's tiny as shit (though obviously not as tiny as some of the more astronomical numbers like the chances of you winning lottery, but to say that it's such a big deal is not very wise). Obviously, when talking about ethnicity, we're mostly referring to cultural heritage. Genetics is only a minor part of that.
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