LEAFERA (EUNE)
: Riot got some fetish for little girls
Not sure why you'd find LoL's amount of girls "disturbing" when basically there's only like 1 or 2 that's even a human and the rest is either some kinda fairy (Yordle) whose "loli-ish" appearance is their adult form or something like Zoe who is pretty much a god that just choose to present themselves in the form of a little girl. It's not like this is the first time where young children are used in a mythical and fictional setting, might want to check all of those ancient legends and whatnot where angels and fairies are usually depicted to be child-like and children are often the subject of the story.
: Shaco's new walk
It makes sense because Shaco is not even alive, but a doll. So overly bouncy and unnatural movement is reasonable for him. Not to mention, his theme is that he's a clown, and a really fucked up one at that. So it also makes sense of him to have a gait of "cartoon burglar prancing" as he does have a screwed up sense of humour.
: "I'm a super gay black furry, basically everything republicans hate". "Fork knife" "Check out NOT destiny and NOT borderlands" "Here's NOT fallout by the guys that made the original fallout" Games are art.
> [{quoted}](name=RedPannda,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cjG3PFEt,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-12-07T03:57:45.917+0000) > > "Here's NOT fallout by the guys that made the original fallout" The original Fallout was made by Interplay Entertainment, who also made Fallout 2. It was just published by Bethesda, who then acquired the Fallout IP from Interplay Entertainment when they filed for bankruptcy and was selling their IPs to pay back the creditors at the time. Bethesda's game development with Fallout started with Fallout 3, but not including the 'spin-off' Fallout: New Vegas which was developed by Obsidian Entertainment and published by Bethesda. Ironically, Fallout: New Vegas is the only post-Fallout2 Fallout game that's close in spirit to the original Fallout1/2. Suffice to say, Bethesda has never, ever, made a "Fallout" game up to this point. And so it shouldn't be surprising that they made a "NOT Fallout".
: D5 IS GONE
And now, y'all are hardstuck D4's.
: Watching the Video Game awards has made me realize somethings
> I'm fucking sick of battle royale. The only true statement in this OP. The rest is just angering over nothing.
: Pure water doesn't conduct electricity?
> [{quoted}](name=Bael the Riser,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=opBo6Rkc,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-12-06T06:10:54.907+0000) > > Pure water doesn't conduct electricity? But water supply is always ionised.
: veganism is acting against your nature as a human being.
> [{quoted}](name=Worst Brad Japan,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cPaPE8y2,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2018-12-06T00:41:51.329+0000) > > veganism is acting against your nature as a human being. "Acting against your nature" isn't by itself a bad thing by any means. If that's the case then we should get rid off all and especially medical technologies, education, philosophy and logic, mannerism and formality, and basically everything human civilisation is known for, which would be stupid.
: Reminder: Sword Art Online Was a Great Anime
Then you watched Log Horizon and you're reminded how it actually has something to do with MMORPGs unlike SAO.
: Why'd it Have to be Gay Man?
Not like it matters, as even if she was not gay people would still just put her in lesbian porn like they do with everyone else all the time anyway. Remember that time when Tracer was already in countless lesbian porn the instant Overwatch was announced, and then when Blizzard revealed to the public that she's gay people still lost their shit over it? Yeah. ..... Not to mention, a gay character is gonna happen out of inevitability, and it just happens to be Neeko. There is really no "why" about it.
: Looks like riots trying to milk aatrox's overtuned kit
> [{quoted}](name=IAintDarius,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FQ7j9Gsy,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-12-04T22:51:46.338+0000) > > Looks like riots trying to milk aatrox's overtuned kit I read the "kit" part as "tit" initially and was excited for a moment.
Jamaree (NA)
: You just listed off like half of modern anime.
> [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=3M8yoYy5,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-12-04T22:58:05.433+0000) > > You just listed off like half of modern anime. https://www.livechart.me/spring-2018/tv https://www.livechart.me/summer-2018/tv https://www.livechart.me/fall-2018/tv https://www.livechart.me/winter-2019/tv Just this year's anime. It's by no means a golden year like some years prior (and you shouldn't expect every single year to be golden, in fact you should look at every 5 years instead of every year; the same for games and most things really) but you at least see far more variety from just "Adventure based on magic, half naked girls in short skirts and very bad writing". Sometimes I wonder if people diss on "modern anime" so much because most don't watch anime.
OccuIt (NA)
: Isn't Seven Deadly Sins basically Fairy Tail?
Seven Deadly Sins is closer to Dragon Ball franchise than it is to Fairy Tail. Not only is the artstyle sort of similar but also because of how they handle fights, the introduction of "power level" in Seven Deadly Sins is also a supporting evidence for that. Fairy Tail on the other hand, started as a One Piece rip off that didn't quite understand how to actually do the whole friendship thing and used it as a plot crutch 24/7 until it drove the shit down. And Seven Deadly SIns easily has far better writing than Fairy Tail, but only really because Fairy Tail's writing became utter gutter after the first few actually good story arcs. But at least Seven Deadly Sins has a vision on what it's trying to do and where the story is going, and does it quite alright.
: THANK YOU RIOT
I mean, if they were to not have the wings during ulti, at least have some sort of equivalent to replace it instead of just having Aatrox being larger and semi-floating without any outward indication of it, especially for the opponent, after casting. And instead of just leaving them as is or have them become wings as he uses ulti, they even remove the 2 horn things on the back when he uses ulti in this skin. It's surreal, as not only is this Aatrox ulti just himself slightly larger WITHOUT the wings but also that the 2 spike thing would be REMOVED during the ulti too for some reason. And it looks just kind of weird for Aatrox to not have wings during ulti, because that's something he's always had.
Mordius (NA)
: Obsidian games were behind the creation of Fallout New Vegas, arguably the best Fallout in the series. They are also the creators of Pillars of Eternity which is by far one of the best RPGs I've played in a long time. I really enjoy the games they make, and they deserve a mention.
> [{quoted}](name=Mordius,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=5aFTaEAt,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2018-12-04T14:28:31.271+0000) > > Obsidian games were behind the creation of Fallout New Vegas, arguably the best Fallout in the series. > They are also the creators of Pillars of Eternity which is by far one of the best RPGs I've played in a long time. > > I really enjoy the games they make, and they deserve a mention. And Obsidian were only given 18 months to make Fallout: New Vegas. That's right, Fallout: New Vegas is a game crunched out in mere 18 months, because Bethesda just wanted to be a prick about it or something. Glad to see Bethesda was already a prick in the late 2000s days, and not something recent. It's just that they're more upfront about being an asshole now rather than hiding it in the shadows like they used to before, I guess.
HÔPÊ (EUW)
: Overworking employees has been already debunked, they didn't do that. Those 100h were voluntarily did be some workers, that wanted to help them push the game faster. They were all excited by this game. You can see that excitement in the game. It is great. Those that worked 100h didn't have anything against it and Rockstar was pretty surprised with the backlash. This days media is catching on everything and trying to divide people even more then they already are divided.
> [{quoted}](name=HÔPÊ,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=5aFTaEAt,comment-id=00010002,timestamp=2018-12-04T20:16:38.707+0000) > > Overworking employees has been already debunked, they didn't do that. Those 100h were voluntarily did be some workers, that wanted to help them push the game faster. They were all excited by this game. You can see that excitement in the game. It is great. Those that worked 100h didn't have anything against it and Rockstar was pretty surprised with the backlash. This days media is catching on everything and trying to divide people even more then they already are divided. "Yeah, they later claimed that only a small segment of senior staff had worked 100 hour voluntarily or something, but who really knows? It's not like this is the first time we hear about an AAA game dev being operated like a sweat shop."
Mordius (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=5aFTaEAt,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-12-04T08:02:03.609+0000) > > Did ya also hear what Rockstar Games did? > > Overworking employees to 100 hour week to push out RDR2, which they bragged about in an interview. Yeah, they later claimed that only a small segment of senior staff had worked 100 hour voluntarily or something, but who really knows? It's not like this is the first time we hear about an AAA game dev being operated like a sweat shop. I mean, it's not like they weren't paid for their work. They probably got a shit ton of overtime pay. Also, this should have been expected by them in the industry, that you have deadlines and must do what is necessary to hit those deadlines.| Not to mention they work in a heated/AC office space. These aren't factory workers.
> [{quoted}](name=Mordius,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=5aFTaEAt,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2018-12-04T14:30:51.568+0000) > > I mean, it's not like they weren't paid for their work. > They probably got a shit ton of overtime pay. > > Also, this should have been expected by them in the industry, that you have deadlines and must do what is necessary to hit those deadlines.| > > Not to mention they work in a heated/AC office space. > These aren't factory workers. Unless they are paid by the hour, which is unlikely because they are probably on salary package rather than wages, they were probably unpaid for the overtime. While yes, legally speaking companies should pay for overtime as far as I've read (which is still tricky in say the US where overtime pay is not always eligible for a salary man because reasons), but it is common for companies to chug up the "obligation" card and discourage the workers from trying to acquire the overtime pay they're entitled to; many especially game dev programmers and such simply just accept it as a part of the job and overtimes are just unpaid. If the above speculation is correct, it still won't be the first time a AAA game dev violates labour laws, as game industry already has plenty to show for it (and why I am not convinced that the employees were actually paid for their overtime in Rockstar). And no, don't give me "they had A/C"; you imagine yourself working 20 hours for 5 days straight every single week or 14 hours for all 7 days of the week covering weekends (it's 100 hour week, for god knows how many weeks) while more than half of your work is unpaid and then come back to me saying it's all okay. Factory jobs may be physically taxing, office jobs are also taxing in its own way in the aspects of mental fatigue and frustration. Overworking is just never okay especially something like the ridiculous 100 hours week AND especially the probable notion that overtime is likely unpaid.
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EdpcrqcF,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2018-12-04T08:14:54.246+0000) > > Aren't their post on the WoW forums saying how much the game sucks and how it is barely getting 1 million players? Let me educate you person who keeps defending riot because he likes the dmg hype, WoW has actually been seeing a huge increase in players lately (go ahead and do your homework) and I go on the forums quite often, the numbers where much worse for WoW and they had been struggling to get players back after GhostCrawler ruined WoW. It was very slowly working till recently, but as of late numbers are back on the rise and the forums aren't nearly as bad as you say. Nice try there kid, I see you defending Riot enough not to take anything you say seriously because you can't stop sucking the dmg stick.
> [{quoted}](name=Gentle Lynn,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EdpcrqcF,comment-id=0000000100000000,timestamp=2018-12-04T08:29:46.726+0000) > > Let me educate you person who keeps defending riot because he likes the dmg hype, WoW has actually been seeing a huge increase in players lately (go ahead and do your homework) and I go on the forums quite often, the numbers where much worse for WoW and they had been struggling to get players back after GhostCrawler ruined WoW. It was very slowly working till recently, but as of late numbers are back on the rise and the forums aren't nearly as bad as you say. Nice try there kid, I see you defending Riot enough not to take anything you say seriously because you can't stop sucking the dmg stick. Too bad that no matter how much of a revival WoW is having now in terms of gameplay, the completely botched WoW story writing won't be going away.
F2P Cube (NA)
: why do i have missions to play as neeko when she isnt even out?
Maybe this is a sign that Riot is trying to add a feature of pre-ordering champs which would give players earlier access if they buy the pre-order or some shit in the near future, and this just accidentally slipped out this time. Who knows.
: Does no damage?????
> [{quoted}](name=I NEED YOU,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=3kmOW2ri,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-12-04T01:17:57.357+0000) > > Does no damage????? OP has not seen ADC Janna.
Ákali exe (EUNE)
: Akali already feels kinda irrelevant unless you're highly skilled with her, execute your combos to near perfection and can get ahead early. If you can't meet all this criteria you will fail spetacularly and stealth doesn't really help you against aoe burst mages. Akali's winrate will soon be comparable and lower than Sejuani's
> [{quoted}](name=Ákali exe,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BvsNVZ4U,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-12-04T02:46:43.443+0000) > > Akali already feels kinda irrelevant unless you're highly skilled with her, execute your combos to near perfection and can get ahead early. > > If you can't meet all this criteria you will fail spetacularly and stealth doesn't really help you against aoe burst mages. > > Akali's winrate will soon be comparable and lower than Sejuani's And that's because her W has eaten up SO MUCH BUDGET that the rest of her kits have to be nuked from orbit because of it. Because it's basically outright invincibility against any champ that doesn't have spammable AoE, fuck the ability doesn't even have a cost despite its supreme power; it is clearly way over-budgeted for a basic ability by design, not to mention in practice the outcome is also hilariously binary either completely broken or entirely useless depending on which champ she goes up to (and the latter category is only a handful at best in comparison to the former). And yes, both the W itself and how it at the same time gimps the rest of the kit by itself both are a definitive example a bad design, as per the theme of OP (original post). .... And this is not even mentioning some of the other more secondary yet still questionable designs in current Akali such as the E being Lee Q on steroids while also on the side having the functionalities similar to Lee W but somewhat better due to no ward requirements, the double-dipping (triple-dipping actually) MS buffs on top of already having like 4 dashes, and stuff like that. Akali's kit design is quite the big issue throughout.
HÔPÊ (EUW)
: Did ya hear what Rockstar Games did?
Did ya also hear what Rockstar Games did? Overworking employees to 100 hour week to push out RDR2, which they bragged about in an interview. Yeah, they later claimed that only a small segment of senior staff had worked 100 hour voluntarily or something, but who really knows? It's not like this is the first time we hear about an AAA game dev being operated like a sweat shop.
: Best part about Worlds this year
The only reason NA made it that far was because they got the lucky roll and their opponents were mostly all nameless nobodies. That was also why NA got pubstomped by EU in the end because as weird as it sounds, NA was unprepared from being fed a completely wrong impression of the skill level of 2018 Worlds up to that point. I'd take them off the list from "outperformed by NA, EU, and China".
: > [{quoted}](name=Get Ogre Here,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=zXEyXhUR,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-12-01T19:37:15.052+0000) > > What makes you say that? there's been periods of time where the earth got hotter and got colder, climate change might be earth going into one of those periods once again. there's vaccinated people whom suffer from brain problems, what more proof do you need? there's a whole lot more money to be made from treating cancer than to cure it and pharmaceutical companies know that too well. even the mythbusters proved it could've been faked and there's many things in the official footage that don't add up i used google earth and could confirm that the earth truly is spherical
> [{quoted}](name=Niagger Falls,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=zXEyXhUR,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-01T19:40:48.965+0000) > > there's been periods of time where the earth got hotter and got colder, climate change might be earth going into one of those periods once again. Climate change is about climate changing too quickly due to man-made causes, and not about the notion of climate changing over time. Imagine the meteor hit the Earth and the climate is changed overnight, which led to mass extinction of almost everything on Earth; and this has happened before. What we're doing to the planet is a mini version of that, and worse, it's entirely something we consciously do and thus entirely controllable, but we just couldn't be bothered to. That is the problem. In a way, this kind of excuse you chug up is like saying because people all die at some point and thus murder shouldn't be a problem.
Jamaree (NA)
: I’m STILL waiting for my apology for getting banned for saying Eeyore was sucidical, mods be incompetent yo.
> [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=ve85Xkji,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-12-03T02:54:14.223+0000) > > I’m STILL waiting for my apology for getting banned for saying Eeyore was sucidical, mods be incompetent yo. In the live action Winnie the Pooh movie, Christopher Robins, there is even a scene where Eeyore was floating in a river being carried towards what he thought was a waterfall that's big enough to kill him, and his response was literally just "don't stop it and let it happen". Eeyore has always been depicted, at least in the Disney's depiction, to be super depressed (though his depression comes seemingly from being too compassionate and cares too much). But ofc the kids weren't meant to realise this kind of stuff, and they just thought he was a super big "downer" of the group.
: When is Shaco getting a skin?
Maybe Shaco is being reworked so his skin production is frozen.
: OK guys enough with this trend of "this game was balanced for china"
That's kinda my beef against this bandwagon. I mean, with how China easily crushes Dota2 as its biggest playerbase that occupy the majority seat all by itself alone, where Dota2 has always had longer game sessions than LoL ever had, not sure why "China want shorter game" is even a thing given it's pretty obvious that they don't really care. ....... > so they use statistics, because it's almost their only tool to balance their game. I do think there is some truth in saying that balancing around statistics alone may have contributed at least partly to LoL's current balance. It would appear for the majority of champs, they are balanced entirely in an almost simulation environment, where the goal is just trying to get the champ to 50% win rate or other arbitrary win rate if it's a proven problem child, and rather than balancing the champs according to how they play out, with and against other champs. This is a mere speculation on my part though. Who really knows why Riot is so bad at balancing LoL and only getting worse.
King Lego (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bAI1AZQE,comment-id=00070000000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-01T11:21:52.174+0000) > > What concrete ground do we even have for accusing Tencent as a part of the problem? Because as far as I know, there is very little to none. People just assume being a Chinese company itself is enough of an evidence to plead guilty. It's really fucked up. > > Even just rationalising all of this, it also doesn't make sense that Tencent is the one cutting League's game session length. Because > a) Chinese players don't really give a shit if a game's length is longer or shorter than 30-35 min, as proven. So it can't be Tencent acting to satisfy a trend of their primary demographic. > b) Tencent ALREADY has a "short" League under its belt called the Mobile Legends that exists independently as a portable LoL and is indeed popular among Chinese players for it and it replacing the need to play League hastily in an internet cafe; and yes, Chinese players nowadays use internet cafe more to watch game tournaments live when outside rather than simply playing. > > As such, what benefits would Tencent have by reducing the game length of LoL? Exactly, none. > > It becomes quite obvious that, as you'd probably notice from the second paragraph, that if anyone has any motivation to cut League's game length then it would be on the reason of tournaments, in order to make them more "bite chunk" and more accessible. And indeed, that is THE reason why LoL's game length is cut. > > Is Tencent behind this or is it Riot? Who fucking knows, but seeing how esports has been ruining games for precisely the same or other similar "esport" reasons, with and without Tencent or Riot or whatever, it doesn't even matter who was the one that pulls the trigger. It just doesn't matter, because esport itself is the problem. > > And we must cure the problem at its root, we must address esport, and not spending time throwing dodgy curveballs at other people and accuse them of shit. I can see your point. Although i am not saying "i blame China and Tencent!" but instead i'm asking if we can. I'm well aware that i can be wrong. Nobody knows what Riot's direction is so getting answers is near impossible. Or just purely impossible. Darn...i completely forgot about esport. Yeah it's a reason on why it is ruining the game for us. "hey let's buff this champion so it can appear in pro play! Let's nerf that champion so it won't appear in pro play!" Solution? Make a separate server solely for esport pro play, without affecting us. Is that good enough?
> [{quoted}](name=King Lego,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bAI1AZQE,comment-id=000700000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-01T11:37:17.285+0000) > > I can see your point. Although i am not saying "i blame China and Tencent!" but instead i'm asking if we can. I'm well aware that i can be wrong. > Nobody knows what Riot's direction is so getting answers is near impossible. Or just purely impossible. > > Darn...i completely forgot about esport. Yeah it's a reason on why it is ruining the game for us. > "hey let's buff this champion so it can appear in pro play! Let's nerf that champion so it won't appear in pro play!" > > Solution? > Make a separate server solely for esport pro play, without affecting us. > Is that good enough? Idk. Seeing even Dota2's seemingly esport-proof design of being balanced entirely around hard-counter is also being ruined by esport to some extent (not to the extent LoL is stuck in), I am not so sure what should even be done to stop esport's constant need for "exciting big plays" that tear the games apart over time. Maybe a separate game for the community and the tournament may even be actually needed. Who knows.
King Lego (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bAI1AZQE,comment-id=000700000000,timestamp=2018-12-01T10:59:54.282+0000) > > This reply literally has nothing to do with the post I wrote. > > I was saying that people desperately blame the state of LoL onto Chinese players on grounds that are flat out false is "funny". Not sure how you interpret it as if I was making comments on whether or not LoL is fun. Right right i noticed i missed something and at the last minute you replied, you replied. My bad. Well while Tencent is in the possible line and right to be blamed (let's exclude China for now), Riot should also be blamed for it. I blame them for getting sold to Tencent. Is that fair now?
> [{quoted}](name=King Lego,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bAI1AZQE,comment-id=0007000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-01T11:03:09.892+0000) > > Right right i noticed i missed something and at the last minute you replied, you replied. My bad. > > Well while Tencent is in the possible line and right to be blamed (let's exclude China for now), Riot should also be blamed for it. > I blame them for getting sold to Tencent. > > Is that fair now? What concrete ground do we even have for accusing Tencent as a part of the problem? Because as far as I know, there is very little to none. People just assume being a Chinese company itself is enough of an evidence to plead guilty. It's really fucked up. Even just rationalising all of this, it also doesn't make sense that Tencent is the one cutting League's game session length. Because a) Chinese players don't really give a shit if a game's length is longer or shorter than 30-35 min, as proven. So it can't be Tencent acting to satisfy a trend of their primary demographic. b) Tencent ALREADY has a "short" League under its belt called the Mobile Legends that exists independently as a portable LoL and is indeed popular among Chinese players for it being a good "quickie" experience and it replacing the need to play League hastily in an internet cafe; and yes, Chinese players nowadays use internet cafe more to watch game tournaments live when outside rather than simply playing. As such, what benefits would Tencent have by reducing the game length of LoL? Exactly, none. Some may even argue that it might be a conflict of interest for them to do so as then LoL would be competing with Mobile Legends in the same niche while both are owned by the same company. It becomes quite obvious that, as you'd probably notice from the second paragraph, that if anyone has any motivation to cut League's game length then it would be on the reason of tournaments, in order to make them more "bite chunk" and more accessible. And indeed, that is THE reason why LoL's game length is cut. Is Tencent behind this or is it Riot? Who fucking knows, but seeing how esports has been ruining games for precisely the same or other similar "esport" reasons, with and without Tencent or Riot or whatever, it doesn't even matter who was the one that pulls the trigger. It just doesn't matter, because esport itself is the problem. And we must cure the problem at its root, we must address esport, and not spending time throwing dodgy curveballs at other people and accuse them of shit.
King Lego (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bAI1AZQE,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2018-12-01T10:53:29.456+0000) > > It's a well known fact that China is not only historically a super big DotA fan but is also the biggest playerbase of Dota2, a game that has a longer game session than LoL ever had, that Chinese player alone constitutes anywhere between 50-70% of all Dota2 players globally. > > The fact people keep pushing the unfounded notion that China somehow loves short games and is the main motivation of Riot constantly cutting the game, even though it's incredibly obvious it's the simple notion of esports and TV-isation of LoL that ruined League, is just funny. Yet it's sad and unfun. To me at least. Maybe i should move from League to DOTA2 at this point. At least 95% of its heroes are viable unlike League which is like 30%.
> [{quoted}](name=King Lego,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bAI1AZQE,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2018-12-01T10:57:30.115+0000) > > Yet it's sad and unfun. To me at least. > Maybe i should move from League to DOTA2 at this point. At least 95% of its heroes are viable unlike League which is like 30%. This reply literally has nothing to do with the post I wrote. I was saying that people desperately blame the state of LoL onto Chinese players on grounds that are flat out false is "funny". Not sure how you interpret it as if I was making comments on whether or not LoL is fun. ..... Also, Dota2's situation where most heroes are viable and competitive because the game is balanced almost entirely around hard-counter, hence why almost every pick can be competitive. If you don't like assassins guaranteeing kills over squishies and many scenarios deemed "no counterplay" in League, then you wouldn't like Dota2. Also, Dota2 has a hard-on for obscuring clarity for as much as possible for some godly reason. Hence why the shop system is an entire mess, and most spells are just different colours of generic projectiles that you have to memorise the effect by heart rather than intuitively tell what the spell might be about based on its ability animation. So expect your first MANY games will be spent with utter confusion as you trial and error your way through many deaths, defeats, and bully from teammates before you're even ready for the game. And the game performs like ass, too. So you also need a far stronger computer than you would need for League.
King Lego (EUNE)
: This just made me think (part 2)..can we blame China or Tencent (or both) for how League has become?
It's a well known fact that China is not only historically a super big DotA fan but is also the biggest playerbase of Dota2, a game that has a longer game session than LoL ever had, that Chinese player alone constitutes anywhere between 50-70% of all Dota2 players globally. The fact people keep pushing the unfounded notion that China somehow loves short games and is the main motivation of Riot constantly cutting the game, even though it's incredibly obvious it's the simple notion of esports and TV-isation of LoL that ruined League, is just funny.
: ITS 10000000 TIMES WORSE AGAINST YI YOU CAN NOT FIGHT HIM UNTIL LVL 18 he will just kill you and you cant do anything about it at ll if he invades its gg like for real you just die or lose all your farm rito just kinda forgot to give yi anyway to fight udry at all its just over
> [{quoted}](name=Madtiger77,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VPFHpErJ,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-12-01T05:19:58.395+0000) > > ITS 10000000 TIMES WORSE AGAINST YI > YOU CAN NOT FIGHT HIM UNTIL LVL 18 he will just kill you and you cant do anything about it at ll if he invades its gg like for real you just die or lose all your farm rito just kinda forgot to give yi anyway to fight udry at all its just over Firstly, this thread is 10 months old. Create your own thread if you must, it's not like your post has anything to do with OP. Secondly, Yi is at his weakest in early game (and strongest in mid-late game) and thus extremely vulnerable to invades. There is a reason why Yi's in-game performance deteriorate against counter-junglers or similar junglers that force early duels in jungles. If Yi chooses to invade and wins it says more about the player and less about the champion.
Aarron (NA)
: Imagine writing an article on this Just ban them for breaking the rules and move on, why does this deserve special attention
> [{quoted}](name=Aarron,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=34yrHETE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-12-01T04:29:49.491+0000) > > Imagine writing an article on this > Just ban them for breaking the rules and move on, why does this deserve special attention Because it's Eurogamer. They don't really have much to do besides writing stuff about games, and I guess it also happens to be a slow news days so here we are.
: The reason why Riot has been increasing burst damage by a lot in this game...
The game is the furthermost thing from any semblance of reality. Not to mention most of the champion are gods, demigods, or similar/related equivalent status in legends and myth; even the guys on the lowest power level in LoL can easily handle a great number of people all by themselves and without breaking a sweat. And you'd also think legends fighting against other legends wouldn't go as fast as me finishing my load. So why would the TTK of almost anything in LoL match the speed of how fast puny weak irl humans die?
datfatguy (OCE)
: If a chicken eats a strawberry, and you're allergic to strawberries, and you eat the chicken, do you die?
> [{quoted}](name=datfatguy,realm=OCE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=mT0wgBKM,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-11-30T04:12:34.409+0000) > > If a chicken eats a strawberry, and you're allergic to strawberries, and you eat the chicken, do you die? https://www.thermofisher.com/blog/food/can-feedstocks-trigger-allergic-reaction-in-humans-up-the-food-chain/ Basically, it is possible that a low lever of allergen can be transferred from animal feed to the human consumer of the said animal that consumes the feed. The study cited is a "proof of principle" study, so it doesn't test everything there is and focused on just 1 type of fish, though, but it's still something to consider. Though I'd imagine if someone who is allergic to strawberry were to consume the meat of the chicken that was fed strawberry, they probably wouldn't even feel their allergy even if it's to occur. But that's a guess.
: When your team is falling but your Swain so you ult into the enemy team
Yeah but the punchline should've been "Nevermove" and not "Nevermore".
: ... Infrequent. I get a message like that every 3rd or 4th game I play when I actually spend any amount of time playing this game. What can you possibly mean by "infrequent"? If anything the alarming frequency and regularity with which I see these annoying as hell pop ups only serves to let me know that Riot does little to nothing about the root cause of the whole problem because I've been seeing these damn pop ups at that same damn rate for going on 3 years now. You'd think if any of these feedback reports actually resulted in bans for the toxic jerks that got reported that rate would have at least slowed...
> [{quoted}](name=oOBestEveNAOo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=qWLuRQ3w,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-11-30T03:52:21.745+0000) > > ... > > Infrequent. > > I get a message like that every 3rd or 4th game I play when I actually spend any amount of time playing this game. > > What can you possibly mean by "infrequent"? > > [...] That's lucky of you. It's been so many months, or the entire season 8(?), since the last time I was notified by the IFS regarding the person I reported.
: I imagine like human hair, except covered in oil
> [{quoted}](name=Azir Is Not Good,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=mT0wgBKM,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-29T18:22:20.761+0000) > > I imagine like human hair, except covered in oil And tasted purple.
: The Leona skins are a complete disaster: Why can't she show any skin?
: .
https://i.imgur.com/73lEuRH.jpg?noredirect y tho
Conflux (EUNE)
: > At least elaborate on why they aren't druids/shaman in your view, or what you want out of the realisation of the archetype(s). Ok then, first aboud {{champion:77}} Has nothing which includes that he's a Shaman bla bla bla, his abilities are Avatars of the Elements of Earth, Fire, Water and Air = Bullshit, that's nothing. I expect a Lightning Strike, Chain Lightning, Lightning Bolt, THUNDERSTRIKE, Lava Burst, Lava Bolt, Lava Lash, Fire Breath ( not that bs after 3 auto he cast that lame fire breath like he's drunk or something), I expect SPELLS not some wanna be Enhacement. {{champion:76}} its a wanna be copy paste from druid in wow only 'cause she can transform into cat ... LAME! Her abilities in cat form are COPY PASTE FROM WOW, what about her normal spells? she throws a spear ... wow, she heals a lame heal and its mostly useless since she's only in cat form ('cause she's played jg 90% of the time) and she has TRAPS, really? WTF! that's a Ranger/Hunter's job. talk about lame Originality. a wanna be Copy paste of druid using traps. and last but not least{{champion:427}} Everything its wrong with him except his E, beside him being the Father/Friend of the forest he has summoning BUSH ... and Daisy, the rest of his Kit are ok'ish in form of Druidism, but the way which interacts with them are MEH!. i Expect Entangling roots, Nature's Heal, Summon Wisps, Treants, Fores Spirits ANYTHING, what does he summon? Wanna be TINY. i also expect some originality in terms of his Personality too ... not the one he's too lazy to attack the jg monsters that's pathetic. I Expect Wrath of Nature, Nature's Growth or something which means being Friend of the Forest.
> [{quoted}](name=Conflux,realm=EUNE,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=4B3K21cv,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-11-29T10:21:36.907+0000) > > Ok then, first aboud {{champion:77}} Has nothing which includes that he's a Shaman bla bla bla, his abilities are Avatars of the Elements of Earth, Fire, Water and Air = Bullshit, that's nothing. I expect a Lightning Strike, Chain Lightning, Lightning Bolt, THUNDERSTRIKE, Lava Burst, Lava Bolt, Lava Lash, Fire Breath ( not that bs after 3 auto he cast that lame fire breath like he's drunk or something), I expect SPELLS not some wanna be Enhacement. > {{champion:76}} its a wanna be copy paste from druid in wow only 'cause she can transform into cat ... LAME! Her abilities in cat form are COPY PASTE FROM WOW, what about her normal spells? she throws a spear ... wow, she heals a lame heal and its mostly useless since she's only in cat form ('cause she's played jg 90% of the time) and she has TRAPS, really? WTF! that's a Ranger/Hunter's job. talk about lame Originality. a wanna be Copy paste of druid using traps. > and last but not least{{champion:427}} Everything its wrong with him except his E, beside him being the Father/Friend of the forest he has summoning BUSH ... and Daisy, the rest of his Kit are ok'ish in form of Druidism, but the way which interacts with them are MEH!. i Expect Entangling roots, Nature's Heal, Summon Wisps, Treants, Fores Spirits ANYTHING, what does he summon? Wanna be TINY. i also expect some originality in terms of his Personality too ... not the one he's too lazy to attack the jg monsters that's pathetic. I Expect Wrath of Nature, Nature's Growth or something which means being Friend of the Forest. WoW/Warcraft's realisation of Shaman and Druid isn't the only realisation possible. In fact, Blizzard's take on it while iconic in gaming now, have little to do with the term's origins. A Shaman is a spirit medium, someone who can perceive, has the knowledge of, and can communicate with spirits, which they use this ability mostly in the purposes healing and divination. Shamanism is also just a generic term referring to the idea of a spirit mediator, so anything from the Native American's Shamanism (not sure what are the term they call it as) to Japanese's Shinto are both Shamanism. Druids is even more far off from the tree-based theme that modern media now rings the term to; well, they do have themes based on trees, but never nearly as intimately as we see it today. Druid as a term is basically just referring to the religious leader, like pope or priest, of the Celtic culture/religion/traditions, who are mostly just depicted as a typical wizard for the most part of the history; well, maybe a divination wizard because it would appear most of their legends centered around giving accurate prophecies. Druids only became associated with trees in the 15-18 century when a Christianised early modern Europe went out to ""discover"" the world, and name every culture they encounter as being more 'primitive' and thus at some point Druids fell as one of its victim and became heavily associated with trees (I'm sure Shamans got a load of this too). So if we really boil it down, not like anyone is ever using those 2 terms as intended anyway. Anything is fair game really. I mean, when you look at it this way, it doesn't seem like Udyr, Nidalee, and Ivern are such bad realisation of Shaman/Druid.
: Article11/13 - The end of the Internet as we (europeans) know it
At least use a source that actually explains things, instead of providing 2 sources that both begin and end with "thing bad" and do away the explanation with derivative 1-liners while being more concerned with whether or not people are on the ship of denying the things you'd just poorly explained about.
: > [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=2dfPEE0k,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-29T09:42:43.177+0000) > > Or just buff tower defence. So much free gold.
> [{quoted}](name=ChickenWrap,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=2dfPEE0k,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-11-29T09:44:21.769+0000) > > So much free gold. Straight buff, without the usual Riot special "compensation".
: You know what would have been the easiest fix every to towers falling too soon?
Conflux (EUNE)
: I can't believe Riot doesn't have any SHAMAN or DRUID in game.
> [{quoted}](name=Conflux,realm=EUNE,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=4B3K21cv,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-11-29T09:27:36.221+0000) > > Don't get me wrong{{champion:77}} and{{champion:427}}/{{champion:76}} aren't near close being as much as a Shaman or a Druid. At least elaborate on why they aren't druids/shaman in your view, or what you want out of the realisation of the archetype(s).
: how many champions could possibly wield poppys hammer?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmC14_i_Yl0
: > [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yq8AOutL,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-29T05:13:50.461+0000) > > Goblin Slayer is edgy teen's Berserk. It's got the violence, but not the heart or brain. I'm actually convinced it's a harem anime. Literally all the girls introduced so far want a piece of him. You've got all the standard tropes too: the childhood friend, the loli, the tsundere, the mature "onee-san", etc. Not sure what role the guild secretary plays, but I'm sure the Japanese have a word for "girl that loves someone from afar because she's too nervous to approach the guy and confess".
> [{quoted}](name=L Psy Congroo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yq8AOutL,comment-id=00000002,timestamp=2018-11-29T05:42:40.210+0000) > > I'm actually convinced it's a harem anime. Literally all the girls introduced so far want a piece of him. You've got all the standard tropes too: the childhood friend, the loli, the tsundere, the mature "onee-san", etc. Not sure what role the guild secretary plays, but I'm sure the Japanese have a word for "girl that loves someone from afar because she's too nervous to approach the guy and confess". Goblin Slayer is the kind of self fulfilling story where you self-insert as the MC, who is a visionary, always right, is the guy who kinda knows everything, is the most prepared, is the coolest, and saves waifu and they all love him. MC's evidently extremist and genocidal outlook won't be questioned or challenged because the entire world would be shaped to make sure everything he does, no matter how questionable they are if presented in real life, is always the right thing to do. Well, the writer seemed to had some idea when posing MC as a genocidal hypocrite who said "a good goblin will never leave their cave", which is already bad enough, but then he also proceeded to beat like 8 goblin children to death with a club and wiped out an entire clan of goblins IN THEIR OWN CAVE (not a spoiler because this is literally chapter/episode 1. And it doesn't matter anyway as you read further). But no, the writer from then on just went "it's all cool guys, goblins are just evil in every imaginable way, let's just have fun genociding them". And really, having the entire stake of goblin oh-so-evil and just centers around them raping girls and you're out there to save waifu? It's really childish to be honest, to use rape as not just an occasional plot crutch, but the premise of the entire title and supposedly the justification for approving genocide. At least Doom Guy, someone people always compare Goblin Slayer to, is out there genociding demons because they literally destroy the world, and Doom Guy is also not portrayed as some kind of good-meaning hero who gets his hands dirty but just some crazy guy who's on our side. Meanwhile Goblin Slayer is out there wiping out goblins for them raping waifu, which make no sense on so many levels (How is it even ecologically possible that the supposedly magic-less goblins, not even aliens or demons or whatnot that one can explain away with their "outworldy-ness" and use supernatural explanations when needed, can only propagate by surrogate? How is it that nobody gives a shit about goblins and make 0 measures against them even if they're the biggest and arguably the ONLY threat to humanity seen in the entire series, and probably has been so for a LONG time? How can a species be so advanced in intelligence that they learn anything they see almost instantly, and can formulate highly complex strategy and tactic showcasing both advanced long term and short term planning, be without a civilisation of their own and entirely unwilling to compromise and negotiate with anyone in every possible way, and vice versa from humans and other species just take it as fact that such an intelligent species is "dumb but not so dumb" and never bother with even the slightest hint of any interaction beyond extermination? etc etc), and be continuously cast as some kind of angst cool hero. The fact the MC has 0 organic growth and when the waifu requested him to at least not use poison and other more sinister methods to slay goblins, the MC just said "yes" and that was it, contrary to his usual methods as he is supposed to be the guy who wants to do the genocide in the most efficient way and cruelest way possible because of his extreme hatred towards goblins. MC is then soften up by his surrounding peers without any progression and he just nods and then they move on. All of this exists for the series constant need to cast MC in the light of being cool and right as per the theme of this series. * MC killing goblin completely remorselessly even beating children to death with a stick? That angst, the edge, the villain-y protagonist, you see that? It's so cool! * Oh, but at the same time I am going to just say goblins are evil to the very core in every way. So the MC is also super right in seeing and doing the things he does. * And you're asking if his hatred may blind him and make him do certain things or having it become a long term character flaw or something along that line? Why do you ask, ofc the MC is the coolest guy so he always makes the more morally superior decision when needed, except when we want to show off his edgy-ness that is. **Then it's no wonder why Goblin Slayer (the series) dabs itself into the realm of harem. It's kind of expected, really.** IMHO, Goblin Slayer is probably a series that is probably not going anywhere, and in fact it would be even worse if it does try to go anywhere. I kind of feel the title basically set itself on fire since the beginning. But who knows. ......... This isn't to say Goblin Slayer is the worst garbage to ever grace in the face of literature, but people mistake its actual depth because of all the cool vista and edge. This is a bit like Shingeki no Kyojin/Attack on Titan again. But even then, the latter actually touched on _some_ deep concepts even if the writer was wholly unprepared for an intellectual discourse and kind of went nowhere after, but the same can't be said about Goblin Slayer, which is written as if by some guy who had misunderstood what Berserk is actually about and created a story with some semblance to Berserk but without anything that actually made the series the epic it is .
Infernape (EUW)
: Now the question is IF Riot were to nerf her, what would they nerf?
> [{quoted}](name=Infernape,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=a2BrpglT,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-11-29T05:28:58.690+0000) > > Now the question is IF Riot were to nerf her, what would they nerf? Given Riot, they would nerf her shield strength and touch nothing else, or they also buff her damage in "compensation" if we want a Riot full house special.
: I used to be an adventurer like you...
Goblin Slayer is edgy teen's Berserk. It's got the violence, but not the heart or brain.
d00mface (EUW)
: Neeko Taunt Line Suggestion
Have her break the 4th wall and go "Small brain. Don't int" while doing a little index finger pointing.
: Not available and why would I pay a $4+ delivery charge when I can spend 50 cents on gas to drive to McDonald's?
> [{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=TzdhWjWA,comment-id=000100020000,timestamp=2018-11-28T21:52:41.937+0000) > > Not available and why would I pay a $4+ delivery charge when I can spend 50 cents on gas to drive to McDonald's? Well just saying, if you're hellbent on ever going out of your cave but may be forced by it by elements like food (or as OP proclaims, no league), there are ways to avoid it too.
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