: NB3 toxic, riot stupid, entire situation screwed
We really needed another thread on this topic devoid of any substance. Totally.
: The company culture is trash and the game is going downhill as a result. Trying to please everyone bc they are about nothing, and in consequence serving no one. Sylas is a great example bc he is trash, and borderline racist.... any storyteller would tell everyone chains are a sign of oppression, and breaking free from them is breaking free from oppression. Chains leading a male model to a revolution? Spits on the stories told over the entire course of human civilization and those who have lived it. Symbolism has different forms, and in the abstract anything goes. Sylas is not abstract. Realistic symbolism can be wrong like portraying minorities as stupid, Jewish people as bad, or chains as revolutionary. Correct realistic symbols for revolutions are breaking stuff owned by the wealthy or those in power like the Bolsheviks in Russa or the Tea Party in Boston, fireworks, or killing greedy tyrants, kings, bourgeoisie, and/or aristocrats (France). Everything realistic relates to the real world so we can be better people in it. So Riot instead leaves the impression on fanboy/girls and employees that ignorance is cool and nothing matters. When really, ignorance is bad and everything matters. Sylas's story just flies in the face of everything humans are about. Everything is based on something correctly symbolized. If Batman was like Sylas, bats would make Bruce Wayne happy and he would like sunny days only. That doesn't relate with bats just how Sylas's story doesn't relate to chains. Yet I am just one dude who has the answers but can do nothing. gg. Revolutions encompass change not chains. Riot is a bunch of ignorant people and are only big because they were big. The worst is they are bringing other things (culturally and artistically) down with them.
> [{quoted}](name=Power Cosmic,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=qn5J569b,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-17T21:37:12.796+0000) > > The company culture is trash and the game is going downhill as a result. Trying to please everyone bc they are about nothing, and in consequence serving no one. Sylas is a great example he is trash, and borderline racist.... any storyteller would tell everyone chains are a sign of oppression, and breaking free from them is breaking free from oppression. Chains lead a male model to a revolution? Spits on the stories told over the entire course of human civilization and those who lived it. Symbolism has different forms in, and in the abstract anything goes. Sylas is not abstract. Realistic symbolism can be wrong like portraying minorities as stupid, Jewish people as bad, or chains as revolutionary. Correct realistic symbols for revolutions are breaking stuff owned by the wealthy or those in power like the Bolsheviks in Russa or the Tea Party in Boston, fireworks, or killing greedy tyrants, kings, bourgeoisie, and/or aristocrats (France). Everything realistic relates to the real world so we can be better people in it. So Riot leaves that impression on fanboy/girls and employees that ignorance is cool and nothing matters. When really, ignorance is bad and everything matters. There is nothing in the world like Sylas that just flies in the face of everything humans are about. Everything is based on something correctly symbolized. If Batman was like Sylas, bats would make Bruce Wayne happy and he would like sunny days only. That doesnt relate with bats just how Sylas's story doesn't relate to chains. yet I am just one dude who has the answers but can do nothing. gg. > > Revolutions encompass change not chains. Riot is a bunch of ignorant people and are only big because they were big. The worst is they are bringing other things (culturally and artistically) down with them. What- I don’t— Is this copypasta?
Moody P (NA)
: Mordekaiser has too much counterplay and will likely only be a pubstomp champ
Weren’t you literally advocating nerfing his passive to 4/5 hits or spells 3 days ago? Now it’s too much counterplay? I find Morde jungle more useful than top. He loses next to no health, fast clear, and blue smite covers your “no way to assist landing E” problem when he comes a-ganking. He can duel non-Rek’sai junglers moderately well with his passive.
: > [{quoted}](name=Sewer Side,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=juB4OEEr,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-06-16T09:43:19.874+0000) > > Like Sej currently does, and it’s fucking bullshit Sej most definitely currently does not if she builds tank properly, even if you throw in a Sheen/Trinity. She would need two rotations at least and her kit isn't hard to dodge whatsoever. Maybe you should consider investing in some health, or reconsider facing an enemy while already half dead.
> [{quoted}](name=GinoSoldier,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=juB4OEEr,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2019-06-16T12:49:12.233+0000) > > Sej most definitely currently does not if she builds tank properly, even if you throw in a Sheen/Trinity. She would need two rotations at least and her kit isn't hard to dodge whatsoever. Maybe you should consider investing in some health, or reconsider facing an enemy while already half dead. Maybe you should consider getting good as Sej if you can’t do this, because she is 1 rotating squishies with Cinderhulk and Warmogs. Just build health when she has % HP damage :crying:
JackMcCarry (EUNE)
: > In the tank meta there were ways to escape their overtime damage. That's not the tank meta was, what you're describing is a reasonable balance state. Tank meta was when Seju would CC lock you and you'd be dead by the end of her CC lock while being unable to retaliate unless you were vayne.
> [{quoted}](name=JackMcCarry,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=juB4OEEr,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-16T05:16:20.782+0000) > > That's not the tank meta was, what you're describing is a reasonable balance state. > > Tank meta was when Seju would CC lock you and you'd be dead by the end of her CC lock while being unable to retaliate unless you were vayne. Like Sej currently does, and it’s fucking bullshit
: Proof that NB3 actually got Nubrac banned
It’s the weekend for Riot. You can make 100 threads, but nothing is gonna happen until Monday, unless some Rioter makes a stupid comment like Sanjuro/DZK over controversy.
: a sorta? guide on mord support
The problem with Morde support (I’ve tried it in 3 games) is he offers nothing besides a long CD hook in lane. 24 seconds of being able to do nothing is huge in lane. While hard engage counters poke, Morde actually gets rekt by poke in lane with zero answer if he doesn’t land his E. And with champions like Yuumi and Ezreal being popular, you’re never gonna be useful to your ADC.
: Am I the only one who like the old rune system better?
: Video?
> [{quoted}](name=420 grams,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=gu2MBsH4,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-13T16:53:22.900+0000) > > Video? https://streamable.com/4meo3 TFBlade
: Morde is Fundamentally Broken, and Riot will not be able to balance him with his current kit
Oh boy, people said this about Zoe too, I wonder how right Boards will be this time, such a good track record.
: This My main issue with Morde is how big his abilities are, and how fast they are. For example, I can't help but compare Illaoi's Q to Morde's. Morde Q - (+ 75 / 95 / 115 / 135 / 155) (+ 60% AP) + (20 / 25 / 30 / 35 / 40%) for single hit targets Illaoi Q - 10 − 180 (based on level) (+ 120% AD) --Same for all tentacles Lvl 1, they deal about the same amount of damage due to the ability scaling, outside of the single hit targets, in which Morde's definitly wins. Lvl 18, Illaoi's would definitely outscale Morde's, if it wasn't for the fact that it's much harder to build attack damage on her compared to ability power on Morde. However, the main issue is the ability speed and size. I do not own Mordekaiser at the moment, so I can't test this for actual numbers. According to Morde videos and experience fighting him, his Q takes about .5-.75 seconds from cast to deal damage, while Illaoi's takes one second. I am 95% sure that Illaoi's takes twice as long to do. I also believe that Morde's is bigger than Illaoi's as well. Illaoi's seems to be slightly longer than Morde's but his is definitely wider. If they were to have the same perimeter, Morde's would take more surface area that Illaoi's. However, I think that Morde's is wider than Illaoi's is long, making his even bigger. Thus, not only is his much harder to dodge due to how fast it is, but you also must move farther to dodge in most circumstances. Only the 5% missing health heal is in Illaoi's favor. Edit: Got rid of penetration stats, since I was wrong. So many people are misunderstanding the point of this post
Except besides his passive and Q, Morde has zero damage. His E maxes out at 140 base damage, which is hilariously low. Not to mention the incredible cooldown. The penetration simple exists because Juggernauts can’t afford to get LW/Void because they need the slots of defensive investments. Illaoi has Tentacle Slam, her passive, and her Harsh Lesson.
: The hypocrisy of boards as its best
Using Irelia and Akali as metrics is poor form. Both champions are more mechanically intensive than “hit E or be useless” Mordekaiser. Irelia got hotfixed nerfed btw, just like Morde is.
: > [{quoted}](name=Sewer Side,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Gj58T35F,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2019-06-13T13:41:35.415+0000) > > No, it only says Epic monsters. Not large. https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Mordekaiser Says here large monsters.
That’s not the in game tip though.
: reminder that riven and vayne had the same win/pick rates as rework morde for month
Advocating for a harsh nerf like increasing the amount of attacks before Darkness Rise procs is horrific. You’re better off just nerfing the numbers down (namely the %HP effect) before changing fundamentals like that. To put in perspective, Morde needs to land both Q and E and auto once to proc his passive. Increasing that to 5 with zero CC just means he becomes even more reliant on slowing items just to access the damage in his kit because there is no way in hell he’s getting 3 autos + Q + E without the enemy simply walking away (heaven forbid they have any mobility)
: You know toplane sucks when you have to measure whether or not something is broken by comparing it to how well it beats 1 other champion.
Then top has sucked since Season 3. Because there used to be a phrase called the Renekton bar.
: The ability says when he attacks champions or large monsters, so it's completely intentional. So holy shit, yeah he might be a legit jungler.
No, it only says Epic monsters. Not large.
: I think it is intentional, because originally on the PBE his passive did NOT proc on large monsters, meaning they changed it so it would.
The weird part is Darkness Rises says “He can also proc this effect on Epic monsters” as well as champions, but nothing to be said about Large Monsters. I think it’s unintentional
Moody P (NA)
: Mord passive is too strong and too reliable
4-5 stacks? Ok, then make Darius need 10 stacks to get Noxian Might :^) For real, how do you expect Morde to proc 5 attacks with no auto reset and two damaging abilties before the enemy just walks away. His pull doesn’t even have a slow attached, and depending on the range from which you grasp, doesn’t even pull them into auto range.
: Mages and supports can't really buy it And it hurts so much seeing a Morde ulting a Soraka
QSS used to not have an upgrade for years and was a universal pick for anybody. If Morde’s ultimate is giving that much trouble, making it worthless for 1.3k gold isn’t a big sacrifice.
: Free flash, and mobility for everyone!
A dash isn’t Flash. Nor is an ability in a champion’s kit “free” Bad meme.
: Zed, the champion who is top 5 banrate since 57 patch
Zed is quite literally the easiest assassin to play around though, I feel like it’s players refusing to adapt. His ultimate puts him in a predictable spot to CC him after he comes out, his waveclear/trading is on a 20 second timer that most junglers can easily abuse once they see that spell come out, and he gets fucked hard by Zhonyas/Stopwatch/early armor. Like you can take Bone Plating and Seeker’s mid and make him completely irrelevant to your midlane for the first 15 minutes.
Kailyou (EUW)
: Why would u nerf a champion with such a low win rate? (Yuumi)
She’s pretty insane when she is played well.
: there is way to many disgusting champions to ban nowadays
Is it weird I find none of the champs broken or ban necessary? Almost all require some semblance of skill and aren’t auto-wins. Maybe strong, but no unmanagable. Far better than when Jax was strong or Malzahar was everywhere.
: Hey remember nexus blitz
I knew after seeing the announcement on Reddit that if I would come here, someone would find a way to bitch about it. This place is a never changing shithole. Get your life together OP if this is what you post about.
: You already hard nerfed Zyra, it's Lux's turn now
You’re not wrong. I just picked her up again and have a 88% WR with her as support over 16 games, she’s too safe with that much damage Her W shield is a bit big for rank 1
: Ah so thats why she sounds like a entitled SJW ordering coffee only to be upset it took a minute longer then she expected.
Ahahhahaha geddit, ess jay double yews are people I don’t like and this is so totally her because I also don’t like her B-)
: Ppl can have opinions, that's basically only purpose of boards at this point. That being said, she will be Akali 2.0 in terms of high elo abusing to the point of breaking her down in my humble opinion, maybe I'm wrong, but it happened with Akali, Sylas and many others, Riot should imo consider putting out some easy champs. Putting out really mechanicaly challenging champs with overloaded kits isn't healthy.
> [{quoted}](name=CrazyMonkeyCZ,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=knzhyeWu,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-07T17:32:05.594+0000) > > Ppl can have opinions, that's basically only purpose of boards at this point. > > That being said, she will be Akali 2.0 in terms of high elo abusing to the point of breaking her down in my humble opinion, maybe I'm wrong, but it happened with Akali, Sylas and many others, Riot should imo consider putting out some easy champs. > > Putting out really mechanicaly challenging champs with overloaded kits isn't healthy. We had a simple champion - Neeko. And barely made an impact besides abusing her W passive. Even considering her absurd ultimate power and ratio, she isn’t picked that much compared to other new releases Simple champions are too binary. Also, the new champion has a relatively simple kit that has neat depth to it.
AIQ (NA)
: I don't know, gaining 5 Arm/MR at 35-40 minutes (granted you kill the dragon) doesn't seem that overwhelming. The W increases her damage by 18 on average a tick. Level 3 this is a 12.25 damage buff increasing the total to by 85.75 only if someone stays in it for 7 seconds. This is not much for an ability you spend 2-3 seconds catching up to a target first. Effectively you are going to deal around 40-50 of the damage. This will mostly help AP Shyvana clear faster and on hit Shyvana feel better with FM or full tank. I would say this is the only "Buff". "Big"? By no means. Gaining Fury while dead is the definition of a QOL buff, as this should have never been a thing to begin with and it will RARELY have impact on the game. Because most Shyvanas die 5-6 times a game. And the majority of those deaths are 10-15 minutes. Fixing WW Q and W will probably make him much strong and the buff on his Q should be reverted instead.
Whether or not they are overwhelming, they are not QoL changes; they’re straight buffs.
xAcidik (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Sewer Side,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Ag9xxKik,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-07T06:58:50.181+0000) > > I mean, you put “silver pyke main” in your conclusion, so this is fair game, but the champion is pretty busted in comptent hands and higher elos. > > And despite people memeing his early game regen is too high, his late game regen is definitely ridiculous since he’s immune to dying besides being 1 shot because how low his CDs become with Lethality CDR item and ducking into stealth/dashing out of vision. Tfw the challenger players I watch say Pyke is God in bronze but useless in high elo (besides the recent emergence of solo lane Pyke). The funny thing is though I've known solo lane Pyke was strong since release and have played it, but the pros and Challengers are just catching up XD.
> [{quoted}](name=xAcidik,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Ag9xxKik,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-06-07T07:15:47.029+0000) > > Tfw the challenger players I watch say Pyke is God in bronze but useless in high elo (besides the recent emergence of solo lane Pyke). The funny thing is though I've known solo lane Pyke was strong since release and have played it, but the pros and Challengers are just catching up XD. I was reading on reddit that Dopa admitted a lot of higher elo do get their wacky builds from bronze but it’s refined and optimized in higher elos and then trickled back down
: Riots champ design is incredibly dull now
MF is just a walking pair of tits Take off your rose colored glasses. I thought designs since Lulu and Ziggs were shit, but they’ve grown on me.
UwM8 (NA)
: Why do the Pyke changes affect him late
I mean, you put “silver pyke main” in your conclusion, so this is fair game, but the champion is pretty busted in comptent hands and higher elos. And despite people memeing his early game regen is too high, his late game regen is definitely ridiculous since he’s immune to dying besides being 1 shot because how low his CDs become with Lethality CDR item and ducking into stealth/dashing out of vision.
: Top lane Tahm Kench has a lane kill rate exceeding 60% in 47 out of 50 match ups.
I said it before and I’ll say it again - Tahm Kench is a mistake
: "League is like crack lite" No ! league is like a turd ! a big steamy stinky turd, just avoid it, if you have the misfortune to to step in this turd just throw your shoes away and keep moving. It's not surprising the game is in this state, look at the people who run/work at rito, garbage in garbage out (sexual harassment, farting in peoples faces sending dick pics to employees .. DISGUSTING people). They copy/pasted dota 13 years ago and since then NOTHING, they just keep changing the meta (polishing the turd) to keep players interested in the same old turd but with a new shine every few months.
> [{quoted}](name=SHROOMTALITY,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Vx8zroe6,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-05T16:29:56.911+0000) > > "League is like crack lite" > > No ! league is like a turd ! a big steamy stinky turd, just avoid it, if you have the misfortune to to step in this turd just throw your shoes away and keep moving. > > It's not surprising the game is in this state, look at the people who run/work at rito, garbage in garbage out (sexual harassment, farting in peoples faces sending dick pics to employees .. DISGUSTING people). They copy/pasted dota 13 years ago and since then NOTHING, they just keep changing the meta (polishing the turd) to keep players interested in the same old turd but with a new shine every few months. And yet you’re still here, so either you’re into scat or you don’t believe the words you wrote.
: > [{quoted}](name=unlocknow98,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Vx8zroe6,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-06-05T02:14:44.817+0000) > > Im iron player , Other elo players only make me feel shamed of myself and Im noob and i have to stop being iron > I think believing in this make me play this game alot , i wanna do thousand things , that this game prohibit me from I've never had a rank. And i don't feel bad about it. Ranks are overrated. You don't need a fancy digital symbol to feel confident and good about yourslef. Just find some friends and play casual games together, without worrying about what some rank elitists might say. As i said, this is a game, not a job. Do not stress over it.
> [{quoted}](name=Total Violation,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Vx8zroe6,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-06-05T02:33:26.870+0000) > > I've never had a rank. And i don't feel bad about it. > Ranks are overrated. You don't need a fancy digital symbol to feel confident and good about yourslef. Just find some friends and play casual games together, without worrying about what some rank elitists might say. > As i said, this is a game, not a job. Do not stress over it. To expand: The moment a rank takes over your emotional state is the moment one should take a break from the game and realize an arbitrary ranking in a video game is not make or break for your self worth. I’ve taken 4 month breaks from LoL in the last couple years and coming back to the game has me giggling in joy in mosy games. League is like crack lite - not that I can’t quit it, but you build up a tolerance and need to detoxic to get the same highs again.
: Is this intentional or what? You said take a couple months off in a single month.................................
> [{quoted}](name=MessyStuff,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Vx8zroe6,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-05T01:51:22.696+0000) > > Is this intentional or what? You said take a couple months off in a single month................................. Every 3-4 months you should take one month off. Easier to understand?
Sadalsa (EUW)
: That irelia went deep inside anivia ult taking full free damage like a disconnected player, honestly i imaged the people on the boards like her, literally plays like utter shit and complains the champion they died to is op
Well most of the community is below gold or ARAM only, so yes.
nelogis (EUW)
: Welcome to "What the hell just did so much damage to me?!"
Actually, Ahri originally didn’t have the damage amp on her charm. It was added after Riot removed DFG since she was heavily reliant on that item. Then Riot flip flopped between damage amp or not because they wanted her to be an assassin and mains wanted her to be a kite mage. So now she’s both.
: You know if there was pick or banned in PBE, Mord would be 100% banned
A lot of champions OP on PBE turn out to be meh to garbage on live.
: > [{quoted}](name=Bastilean,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xiMeHHy3,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-06-02T22:22:45.059+0000) > > He's basically another Darius. > > He's big, What kind of argument is this? Riot designs juggernauts to be big to represent their class. > immobile, Again, he's a juggernaut so he *has* to be immobile. > has a pull You'd know both pulls functions differently if you've played both of them a good amount, > has a heal, Dude, yet again, the majority of juggernauts have some form of sustain(Garen, Illaoi, Nasus, Mundo, Aatrox, etc,.) > has great single target damage, Zzzzz. Like virtually *every juggernaut in the game*, because they are bad at teamfighting. > has great wave clear Coincidence > and when he is fed he will destroy your whole team Like most juggernauts as well... > Riot took a unique champion and replaced him with the rerework of Darius Not even close, all you did was list features a juggernaut has
Not to mention AP itemization is completely different from AD itemization
: once again its not sona that alone allows the taric/sona bot lane strategy in LCS /PRO play and what would you like to nerf on sona?
I mean, you’d have to nerf one of the two to stop the strategy from working and Sona is more likely a candidate since Taric does almost nothing early. I don’t have an ideas for a Sona nerf, I’m in favor of enchanter reworks. Janna and Sona mainly get nerfs every season since inception and still come back to 53%+ winrates.
: So.... I'm guessing we're going to see Taric/Sona Duos for awhile.....
You think Boards would allow Riot to nerf Sona without staging another uprising? Oh you sweet summer child.
: People on the boards circlejerk about tanks being useless 24/7 even when tanks are busted they shift the goalposts about tanks being OP and claim "not real tanks"
“Tanks aren’t busted, just nerf their damage xaxaxaxa. Rammus is totally allowed to 100-0 you in 2.5 seconds” Is OP high? Tank items are expensive? The most expensive tank item is Randuins at 2.9k gold (since Steraks/Frozen mallet is a bRuIsEr item)
: yeah i remember if the enemy team did a risky draft or drafted poorly you could win if you stalled late. not the case anymore lol.
Lmao, Rammus and Malphite auto win if you dare pick an AD mid laner.
: Yasuo is still in this game why?
Yasuo isn’t that frustrating in 2019. 2013 called and wants their Yasuo complaint threads back
: I think you used Yorick as a point of praise of preserving his old kit when in reality his old kit is nowhere present in his new one. I like both Yoricks and definitely prefer the new one, but they are not alike whatsoever. Similarities: They summon things. That's it. (and they both have an AA enhance but who doesn't? They don't even function the same) I'd even say Heimerdinger or Malzahar are more/equally similar gameplay-wise to old Yorick as new Yorick is. The reason he was so well received though? *Who played Yorick?* That's why. --- We lost the nutty MS on Q, the relentless ghoul chasing regardless of landing anything lol, E perma-harass with E healing you as a ranged click target nuke, W being an on-demand AoE slow that stayed active til it died, R acting like a mix of Morde clone and that temporary GA item they put on ARAM, also he had a *real* passive. But the new kit is 100% healthier and requires more brain power than spam E off cooldown. So we won't sit here and whine like a few select old Galio players (you know who I mean) that our pick doesn't directly completely hard counter an entire subset of champions anymore and we can no longer flash R for free aces.
>But the new kit is 100% healthier and requires more brain power than spam E off cooldown. So we won't sit here and whine like a few select old Galio players (you know who I mean) that our pick doesn't directly completely hard counter an entire subset of champions anymore and we can no longer flash R for free aces. I love this
Death Rex (EUW)
: It looks a bit like a schlong
> [{quoted}](name=Death Rex,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=lZYYeX3M,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-06-01T19:06:57.636+0000) > > It looks a bit like a schlong Anything looks like a penis if you will it enough.
: this ban system is a failure at reforming toxic people
If you’re smarter around the system, you’ve probably reformed more than you’d care to admit
: So can Jarvan get a new ult now?
It’s not about what other champions have, it’s about what works for J4 and his current ultimate functions perfectly. Neither of the arena champions have a 1 second knock up effect either and Cataclysm has a smaller AoE arena that allows your allies to spam their AoE in the field. Also, Jarvan has team utility w/ shred, aura, and his ultimate. Morde’s ultimate is not an upgrade in that capacity.
: You are missing the point here, Rammus can easy be countered by {{item:3140}} So, for love of god #JustBuyQSS
90 second CD vs 7 second CD taunt :thinking: Also ignoring Rammus deletes any squishy. He’ll just easily 100-0 your mid laner or your non bruiser top/jg/support You’re biased as hell. Anyone with a brain who’s played Rammus lately knows how absurd his ganks after first clear all the way to 40 minutes.
: True, better nerf Rammus than Hecarim LOL!
Hecarim got nerfed twice with halving his % increase and nerfing Conq even more
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