: It is just me or does Riot prefer we watch rather than play the game ?
True. The last time when it was still possible to both watch and play was when tank tops were viable ( and by viable I mean in term of enduring damage, not dealing damage). The game was much less snowballing than it is at the moment.
Rioter Comments
: Is matchmaking working correctly?
No, it’s not working correctly. It’s nothing new. It’s been complained for months now.
: Why the hell would you blame matchmaking for a problem in esports which doesn't use matchmaking?
> [{quoted}](name=haaaaaaalp,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AwOq6rlP,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-04-20T04:49:49.815+0000) > > Why the hell would you blame matchmaking for a problem in esports which doesn't use matchmaking? Because Riot balance the game around pro play, and forces a 50% winrate to make champions look balance in ranked.
Cevrad (NA)
: Do you understand why turrets are paper now? Because when they weren't you could never end the game lmao. Go back to Season 4 and you tell me how you are supposed to end the game against Galio Sivir.
> [{quoted}](name=Cevrad,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=n10osK4Q,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2019-04-15T06:11:44.024+0000) > > Do you understand why turrets are paper now? Because when they weren't you could never end the game lmao. Go back to Season 4 and you tell me how you are supposed to end the game against Galio Sivir. There was a thing called “vision war”.
: How the game lost it's own magic
I agree with you 100%. Some people might disagree by arguing: “But turrets last longer than ever”: Well, but once turrets are “touched”, they fall much quicker because of The Rift Herald, the Demolish rune, Mountain Dragon, Baron Buff, and Ap ratio applied on auto-attacks. “But Leesin, Jarvan, Udyr are still strong early game...” Well yes, except Jarvan doesn’t get weeker late game, and Udyr even scales. Vayne, as long as she finishes {{item:3153}} {{item:3124}} , which is around midgame, she’s already reached lategame. That’s why early game, midgame and late game are meaningless now. “But games were even shorter in season 2, and DGF melt down tanks in season 3”. What about the whole season 4 and season 5 up until 5.22 when the game was very balance, and tankers,bruisers, Ap bruisers,mages, Ap and Ad burst, adc co-existed in harmony? Why do you use season 2 and season 3 as examples of the game unbalances before season 6?
: Maybe as you grew older your friend stopped league because of work, social life, other priorities? It's certainly the case for me, I play since season 3, and I am 30 years old now, still making time to play LOL, but my friends have kids, a wife, work, etc... so they stopped, not because they don't like the game anymore, but they don't want to invest time in league, which I completely understand.
> [{quoted}](name=Ir Sun,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EfuQNV6u,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-04-12T15:28:16.325+0000) > > Maybe as you grew older your friend stopped league because of work, social life, other priorities? > It's certainly the case for me, I play since season 3, and I am 30 years old now, still making time to play LOL, but my friends have kids, a wife, work, etc... so they stopped, not because they don't like the game anymore, but they don't want to invest time in league, which I completely understand. But in many cases, kids also left league and move on to other games because Leauge truely sucks after Rune Reforged.
: Never had less fun in league.
You know what’ worse? Matchmaking system forces you to the 50% winrate so that overpowered champs won’t have like 60% winrate and the game looks less unbalance.
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=Kamille W,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2AlayaQg,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-13T11:51:38.844+0000) > > I hate the state of the game atm. I'm slowly transitioning to other games because this game is unhealthy. I’m learning to play Go at the moment. A simple yet elegant game.
cabbysb (NA)
: Remember when League used to be FUNNY?
Rune reforged, {{item:3147}}, {{item:3124}} , {{item:3161}} are a few things can be named for what have ruined the fun we used to have.
ZealxWest (OCE)
: I just don't understand....
You’re from OCE, no wonder why. The playerbase here’s declined massively mate. To the point that matchmaking system sucks almost every game.
Rioter Comments
iTaLenTZ (EUW)
: Morello was the guy always looking after our fun. Ever since he left the game has progressively got worse.
I agree. Morello design the game so that everyone can enjoy playing. Since he left, the Riot has drived the game toward everyone can enjoy _watching_
Rioter Comments
: If you could revert one rework, who would it be and why?
{{champion:6}} {{champion:39}} {{champion:84}} {{champion:50}} I would prefer them to be reverted.
Dynikus (NA)
: >It's not about winrate, banrate or pickrate. Yeah, why make changes based on statistics when you can instead make them based off the will of what you personally find fun? Who cares about anyone who likes things that you don't like?
Because for those particular champions, I'm not saying all of the champions, just those champs, even though their winrates might be low sometimes, but it's still extremely unfun to play against them, because of their overloaded kit.
Rioter Comments
: Pinpointing reasons why damage feels high @Riot
Well, you just provided some very fine solutions, but you know, all of this will lead to a slower game, which Riot DOES NOT want, because "We need flashy fights for the LCS". I also stated the pretty much similar solution in my post "Some of my thoughts about League of Legends after more than 6 years playing." The link is here: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/e1B9maEa-some-of-my-thoughts-about-league-of-legends-after-more-than-6-years-of-playing
: > [{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=iZHUEZaP,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-01T15:27:09.206+0000) > > Riot: You just need to understand that we make money off champion sales as well, and so to make it easier for players to unlock champions in the roster of nearly 150 is a direct loss on us. Except that new players actually earn champions at a much faster rate with BE than they ever did with just IP (and that’s not just because of removing runes)
> [{quoted}](name=Wilk Łucznik,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=iZHUEZaP,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-04-01T18:38:49.818+0000) > > Except that new players actually earn champions at a much faster rate with BE than they ever did with just IP (and that’s not just because of removing runes) Except most of the players now are veteran players.
: Riot: You just need to understand that we make money off champion sales as well, and so to make it easier for players to unlock champions in the roster of nearly 150 is a direct loss on us.
> [{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=iZHUEZaP,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-01T15:27:09.206+0000) > > Riot: You just need to understand that we make money off champion sales as well, and so to make it easier for players to unlock champions in the roster of nearly 150 is a direct loss on us. LeAgUe oF LeGeNds iS A fRee to pLay gAmE.
: I don't have the time currently to discuss the rest of your points, but the biggest one in particular that I want to single out: why remove Redemption? {{item:3107}} Just curious, not saying anything is wrong or right.
Thanks for your comment. I think {{item:3107}} put an end to the Poke teamcomp. Also, with redemption, you have to burst harder before your opponent can restore their health, and that’s why asssasins are popular nowadays.
: remove stopwatch? What would be the counterplay to zed ultimate at early levels? Seeker's armguard by itself doesn't save you from his 100-0 combo.
Back in season 4 you could use strategies to counter a champ, not just items. A 100 to 0 Zed? No problem, pick a team comp with strong shielding and play around 2 carriers, and wait until late game. I remember back then QSS even cleansed Zed’s ult. Also, with more vision, you can play safer and avoid ganks.
Oznap (NA)
: I find the reasons you prefer league over Dota questionable and mostly opinionated. Not saying that one is better over the other. Its just that the reasons you give feel pretty opinionated. For example I don't see what you mean by creative ways to control minion waves. You either hit them, don't hit them, or leave the lane based on if your wave is pushing or not. I personally feel weird seeing your 3rd opinion because it also serves additional benefits and depth. It teaches supports how to last hit, allow for last hitting mind games for both sides, and additional benefits while maintaining wave control. Also going back anytime you want you can do this in Dota its called a Tp scroll, you can do much more with it besides that as it acts like {{summoner:12}}, you can't tp back to base anytime you want though because it has a cooldown per use but going back in such a short amount of time isn't ideal in either game. First reason is also somewhat bias as a lot of the changes in Lol have been to make the game less passive. Lol feels that way because it doesn't really do anything to show that your opponent got a gold from a kill so that feeling isn't as noticeable. Also competitive Lol from what I watch is very passive as the capability of outplaying is impossible unless the enemy outright screws up. I am just pointing these out as your thoughts seems pretty opinionated in general and you should consider why certain changes were made as you listed quite a bit of stuff you want out without giving much reason to them individually.
Yes, that’s why I started with “in my opinion” :) . Dota 2 has still been a great game anyway. I just find it more fun playing League.
Rioter Comments
Velasan (NA)
: Because Riot has made it clear they are OK with pushing things into the meta rather than let a meta form by people playing the game on their own. During worlds they buffed Lee Sin Q and literally just said, yeah we're buffing Lee Sin Q because he's not meta and we want to see him at worlds. New runes also do not equally provide for all champions. Some champions have all the runes they want, others are lacking. The rune system still needs a lot of fine tuning and some new additions. Particularly because the old system let you get so many bits and pieces of different stats into one set of pages (runes and masteries combined) that the new system doesn't provide. In the new system for example you literally can't get certain things together because it's not offered that way. If you can only take two trees you're always missing out on something. Try it for yourself sometime. Take a couple of old pages you used to use for your champions. Write down everything those pages provided. Now compare it against the new system. You'll see there are either no equivalents to some of the old versions or they can't be used together because all the things you would want are on up to three different trees and you're only allowed to take two.
The old mastery was a masterpiece. You can either go 21-9-0, 0-30-0, or 10-10-10, or 6-21-3, whatever way you want, which is awesome. I also miss the old rune page, when I could go full AP, or full magic pen.
: +1, totally agree. Snowballing is so fucking retarded this season, it's honestly the most unfun season I've ever experienced as a player. I had more fun dealing with hyperfarmed yi and Udyrs with feral flare than dealing with this bullshit. What's worse is that they are fucking us for **two goddamn months** because of their precious esports. They refuse to shift the meta from this cancer because they don't want to destabilize the worlds patch, even though they've had plenty of fucking time to do so. Games end in 25 minutes, ADCs reach late game with two fucking items, and as a top and mid laner that plays primarily melees my existence is practically null. I still win most of my games and I could probably reach diamond if I really played more but I can't fucking be bothered to. Every time I reach plat 1 MMR (and play with the D5s you hate so much) I just want to fucking kill myself because of all the horrible boosted bullshit I get to deal with. Promo helper was a mistake. I really like the league system but I feel like it should be tied more to actual MMR.
If season 7 is a bad, then season 8 is the worst. Games are determined after 10 minute into the game.
Kloqdq (NA)
: This problem is for sure 2 fold. First, games are snowballing quickly because the game has so many new elements that lead to stacking leads in the winning sides favour to much. Dragons, new kits that avoid damage, allow easy dives or tower taking, new heavy damage dealing items, and a whole list of other things. Many of these I feel do get checked to avoid issues but whenever something like Duskblade gets through, it leads to the creep of many different elements within league. This leads us to the current issue of just league being far faster than previously. The second issue is games were purposely made to be quicker for Pro Play. This is in my mind a large issue in itself that should also be considered. Pro play in my mind is something we should keep balancing watch over and I am find with it being considered when we do balance. My problem is the way Riot wants to balance Pro. Riot has actively worked to make the games quicker for pros and viewers and in turn make it seem more like Overwatch, or something. This in my mind has had negative effects on the casual experience and the pro player/viewer experience. No one likes short games because often those are stomps. Hell even in Overwatch or Paladins or whatever, no one cares for short 5 minute stomps. This is in turn faulty logic and hurts the best aspect of League. The long brawls of back and forth fighting. For me, my favourite moments have always been the games that feel like they could go either way at any moment but always are somewhat close. Games that sometimes lead to rushing back doors, making explosive plays at 40 minutes to get a massive lead, etc. Games that start and end within 25 minutes are the worst games because they did not show anything interesting. They weren't fun and competitive matches. So these two elements all come together to create the Season 7 experience. A snowball, one-sided stomp fest that saps the fun out of the game for a lot of people. That is my issue with league on the grand scale. I really hope season 8 slows the game back down so we can have games that aren't like that.
Welcome to the future. Season 8 was a true nightmare. Games are determined after 10 minutes :)
: Unpopular opinion: I think runes are good for the game and they make it more fun
Of course League without Runes is not League. But the old rune and mastery system was 10 times better than this Rune reforged joke. The old system provided better adapting and personalising capability than the current system.
: If you think Cass, Nidalee and Elise are supports you either have zero understanding of how this game works or you're shitposting.
> [{quoted}](name=Quality Content,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Uoc445iY,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-03-09T07:36:56.773+0000) > > If you think Cass, Nidalee and Elise are supports you either have zero understanding of how this game works or you're shitposting. Nidalee support was like 6 years ago
: It's so f*cking nice to see Riot actually listen to their community for once. Gives me hope for the future of LoL
> [{quoted}](name=Toþykachu,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lJiMYU50,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-08T17:05:30.058+0000) > > It's so f*cking nice to see Riot actually listen to their community for once. Gives me hope for the future of LoL Reading your first sentence and I gave you an up vote. Reading the second one and I gave you a down vote.
Hotarµ (NA)
: Shen needs to be reverted or reworked again.
Shen’s gone with the split pushing meta. The only meta now is the damage creep meta.
: Can we vote on balance changes made to the game
We can, but Riots won't care, because the vast majority of their audience market is in Asian (China, Korea, Vietnam and the Philippines). That's where their profit mainly comes.
Rioter Comments
: They nerfed several champions. They nerfed Keystones. They nerfed Ignite, the main offender. They have nerfed items, especially assassin items and Oblivion Orb. Stop crying that somebody with several items will delete a squishy. That's how it has always been and how it should be.
> [{quoted}](name=Snake of Avarice,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Be2Zd9E0,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-02T17:03:16.887+0000) > > They nerfed several champions. > They nerfed Keystones. > They nerfed Ignite, the main offender. > They have nerfed items, especially assassin items and Oblivion Orb. > > Stop crying that somebody with several items will delete a squishy. That's how it has always been and how it should be. You clearly didn’t play leagues before ss7 did you?
vvasya (NA)
: You know what'd be nice? Changing Guardian-Angel and Banshee-Veil back into pure defense items
: I once banned Ezrael and said, "Banned him!" and he replied, "It's ma'am! IT'S MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA'AM!" Am I now anti-trans?
> [{quoted}](name=KazaLyn Shao,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=QEIhEvA8,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-02-24T00:12:19.349+0000) > > I once banned Ezrael and said, "Banned him!" and he replied, "It's ma'am! IT'S MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA'AM!" Am I now anti-trans? You banned Ezreal. Now you’re Ezrealphobia
: But the thing is they are all basically low diamond Support mains and certain support champs can be played in multiple roles like karma or zilean. Also banning only supports has happened before to a Brazilian support Dioud who was really good and he just picked a different champion than the supports that were banned. Like legitimately the girls top champions are Nami, Karma etc. Also it's disrespectful to the competitive players on the other team to be playing against players far below their skill level. The Russian league is at fault for letting unqualified players, not because they are female, but the fact that they are basically 4 low diamond support mains and a manager ruining the competitive integrity of the league
> [{quoted}](name=iiNfAmOuS2o9,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=E0VW7QEJ,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2019-02-22T10:32:43.471+0000) > > But the thing is they are all basically low diamond Support mains and certain support champs can be played in multiple roles like karma or zilean. Also banning only supports has happened before to a Brazilian support Dioud who was really good and he just picked a different champion than the supports that were banned. Like legitimately the girls top champions are Nami, Karma etc. Also it's disrespectful to the competitive players on the other team to be playing against players far below their skill level. The Russian league is at fault for letting unqualified players, not because they are female, but the fact that they are basically 4 low diamond support mains and a manager ruining the competitive integrity of the league Toxic Feminism
: Everyone suddenly "loves" the old Kayle, meanwhile she is one of the top 4 least played champions.
> [{quoted}](name=Dragon Zyra,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2qK5dG0s,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-02-19T16:02:04.365+0000) > > And no, it's not just gameplay. Design affects too. > > _Edit for people ignoring this first sentence: If you don't think both things are important and affect the play rate you're very biased. The whole reason why monsters are barely played it's because of looks, regardless of how good the gameplay is._ > > Sure, in an ideal world, people would play monster champions just as much as attractive humanoids, but that is not the case. > > I am fine with having a champion with less armor or no helm, a very minor thing to affect the game or universe, if that means that Riot will see good results and will be able to keep paying their employees to create more awesome content and keep the game alive. > > If you want to show support to a champion, play it. It's very easy to talk but basically no one plays Kayle, and many things cause that. It is selfish to demand a champion staying the same when it isn't working for the company. > > These outrages are often exaggerated, filled with hypocrisy and lack of understanding. Hang on, a champ doesn’t have to be on top of the play rate to make people attached to its old look. It’s the years Kayle has existed in the game that makes people attached to her traditional look. Kayle is one of the first generation champions. Don’t use winrates, playrates, banrates and pickrates to evaluate a champion. Those figures changes constantly every patch. Just like my Ipad. It’s not the thing I use most frequent, I use my glasses more frequent than that, but because I have used my Ipad for 7 years that I feel attached to it.
: Congratulations, you've destroyed the jungle and made the entire game even more garbage
Riot Games will never die, unfortunately. Tencent is there to save their ass :)
: I realize that Tencent is the owner of Riot Games, and Asian, but this Chinese/Korean audience catering has seriously got to stop. We're not an internet cafe based community. Our region STARTED League of Legends, and you're selling out to internet cafes. It's fucking insane man. And also, who is to say that those people won't jump ship to switch to another game anyway? With its current state, League is bad, and if a new game like PUBG or StarCraft comes along, but better, then it's rip for League. And this time you _won't_ have NA to fall back on, because NA _will_ be hating you already. GG Riot Games
> [{quoted}](name=ˆˇˉˇˆ,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=E1AAWbeE,comment-id=0022,timestamp=2019-01-20T10:58:17.060+0000) > > I realize that Tencent is the owner of Riot Games, and Asian, but this Chinese/Korean audience catering has seriously got to stop. > > We're not an internet cafe based community. Our region STARTED League of Legends, and you're selling out to internet cafes. It's fucking insane man. > > AND PS! Who is to say that those people won't jump ship to switch to another game anyway? With its current state, League is bad, and if a new game like PUBG or StarCraft comes along, but better, then it's rip for League. > > And this time you _won't_ have NA to fall back on, because NA _will_ be hating you already. > > GG Riot Games Internet Cafe is actually not the biggest reason why League shifted to Asia market. It's the politics. China needs a game like this so everyone's busy playing game and no one talks about democracy.
: I can only imagine how quickly League will crash when Riot's Asian audience switches to a game better designed for being played in such short windows.
> [{quoted}](name=Busty Kunoichi,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=E1AAWbeE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-01-19T07:49:57.441+0000) > > I can only imagine how quickly League will crash when Riot's Asian audience switches to a game better designed for being played in such short windows. I'm an Asian and I confirm this. Too bad Riot won't die anytime soon even if that happens cause Tencent will save Riot anyway.
jurrrr (NA)
: I'm worried that my future kids will fall below paper 5 :(
> [{quoted}](name=end no ff,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=u1pK7wZZ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-01-19T13:53:00.017+0000) > > I'm worried that my future kids will fall below paper 5 :( Mine will be in Noodle 5 :(
: I completely agree.I am not the best ,most efficient player.I have had health issues lately,I used the game,to take my mind off the stress, and the pain.I was great at the game, on my good days depending on meds and condition,but look at my history new system is busted this account was only climbing to silver 3 this season had iron teammates, honestly the people in the community are worse/more toxic and promos were the issue 25/5 objective focused well oiled machine/coach and therapist for team still got destroyed 3 times for that promos in one day,took a break now but as you said I'm losing interest and also my health is better without playing as much league.All I wanted was to accomplish at least silver 3 one last time I don't know if I want to try again. experience in game,builds, and runes are useless anymore the 1st team to not screw around for 7 mins wins the game ,make it a team game have voice chat for your entire team not just your party.{{champion:24}} uses a plastic spork now lamp post was too much of a real weapon for him.
> [{quoted}](name=kisukeurahara7,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6Md307AB,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2018-12-19T22:22:13.519+0000) > > I completely agree.I am not the best ,most efficient player.I have had health issues lately,I used the game,to take my mind off the stress, and the pain.I was great at the game, on my good days depending on meds and condition,but look at my history new system is busted this account was only climbing to silver 3 this season had iron teammates, honestly the people in the community are worse/more toxic and promos were the issue 25/5 objective focused well oiled machine/coach and therapist for team still got destroyed 3 times for that promos in one day,took a break now but as you said I'm losing interest and also my health is better without playing as much league.All I wanted was to accomplish at least silver 3 one last time I don't know if I want to try again. experience in game,builds, and runes are useless anymore the 1st team to not screw around for 7 mins wins the game ,make it a team game have voice chat for your entire team not just your party.{{champion:24}} uses a plastic spork now lamp post was too much of a real weapon for him. Sorry for your health condition mate. But to be honest you should use your valuable time doing something more enjoyable, not spending it torturing yourself playing this game. Try reading books or listen to classical music, that might help too.
Rαy (EUW)
: Used to play 10 games in a row daily. Now I'm down to 1-2. Thanks Riot Balancing Team!
> [{quoted}](name=Rαy,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6Md307AB,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-12-19T21:41:30.101+0000) > > Used to play 10 games in a row daily. Now I'm down to 1-2. Thanks Riot Balancing Team! I used to play 5-6 games a day. Jobless. Lonely. Now I have a job and I've made new friends. Riot balance team has saved my life!
Bijeesny (EUNE)
: Even to this day, I don't understand what was the point of Runes Reforged. What are they offering that old runes couldn't?
> [{quoted}](name=Bijeesny,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eqHioKlU,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2018-09-10T13:55:13.622+0000) > > Even to this day, I don't understand what was the point of Runes Reforged. What are they offering that old runes couldn't? Money. Now Riot can force you to play what they can profit most.( New expensive champs etc..)
: People are over-reacting so much over this it's nuts and laughable If an eSports expedition finals best of three match between China and Korea, that happened not even a week ago, can pull in **over a million viewers** on Twitch alone This game, despite all this silly drama that pretty much happens every year in some sort of variation, will not be dying any time soon ######Despite everyone wishing it would finally make Riot shape up their act for once
> [{quoted}](name=2nd Chance,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=0lrvWmkJ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-09-01T11:04:00.843+0000) > > People are over-reacting so much over this it's nuts and laughable > > If an eSports expedition finals best of three match between China and Korea, that happened not even a week ago, can pull in **over a million viewers** on Twitch alone > > This game, despite all this silly drama that pretty much happens every year in some sort of variation, will not be dying any time soon > > ######Despite everyone wishing it would finally make Riot shape up their act for once League has survived Overwatch, PUBG, Fornite. But this time it will kill itself.
: The reason why I uninstalled League
I feel you mate. Riot has become a company which only cares about money a few years recently.
heroikc (NA)
: Yeah, Riot acknowledged that and are working to make recovery feasible again. Yeah I remember the days when games, though long with some reaching an hour, were often enjoyable with no one expecting who would win; it was the best tug of war, where even a loss due to minions felt awesome because you had one last epic teamfight prior (I had one where I was the sole surviving Veigar and aced the enemy team with a Quadra before minions destroyed the nexus). Ghostcrawaler f'd the game up hard. {{sticker:zombie-nunu-bummed}}
> [{quoted}](name=heroikc,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IeRWkxtl,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-08-31T04:02:25.905+0000) > > Yeah, Riot acknowledged that and are working to make recovery feasible again. Yeah I remember the days when games, though long with some reaching an hour, were often enjoyable with no one expecting who would win; it was the best tug of war, where even a loss due to minions felt awesome because you had one last epic teamfight prior (I had one where I was the sole surviving Veigar and aced the enemy team with a Quadra before minions destroyed the nexus). > > Ghostcrawaler f'd the game up hard. > {{sticker:zombie-nunu-bummed}} I miss Ryan 'Morello" Scott :(
: Why I've been finding league less FUN to play and watch
> I think that this is a root problem for what's to come No the root problem is that Riot Games is streamlining the game, make it less creative, so that the players have to buy expensive champions, and they can make more money. Look at the blue shard and new rune-mastery shit.
: I'd say 5 as someone who played since early 2. It sure had some problems but after the overtuned cinderhulk got it's first deserved hit. The Meta and games were glorious! Best games I ever had were back than. Than someone a riot decideed they need to give champions lane-specific Kits... Juggernauts walked right over the Meta and Fiora over anything left... and it went downhill from there .. and never recovered tbh.
I agree with you. Before patch 5.22 (preseason 6), even though there were also a few strong champs in each meta, every other champs still had their chance once they were ahead enough. Now unless you pick a meta-hot champ, you will not be able to carry, even you are so far ahead. That is because they invented Rift Herald and keystone mastery.
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