: Wait, you can use things like the n-word or tell people to "kys" without getting punished in CS:GO? Are you joshing me bro?
> [{quoted}](name=Famous Gay Actor,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=0MlbQlQE,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-17T23:34:30.721+0000) > > Wait, you can use things like the n-word or tell people to "kys" without getting punished in CS:GO? Are you joshing me bro? I have typed and voice chatted some bad stuff in cs:go and never got any punishment. However, in general cs:go is actually less toxic than LoL.
: 14 Day Suspension, your opinions?
Yeah those guys on this forum saying Riot chat bot understands context... it just fcking doesn't.
Elohaven (NA)
: How are punishments for int'ers handled
I think the only way to have even tiny chance get inting ban is to suicide to turret and enemy team repeatedly without your allies being close. If you just soft int by running around the map and trying to "fight" the enemy every now and then there is no chance to get punished.
Sekksi (NA)
: Glitch with honour system? Level 0 randomly
tells something about this crap honor system that it has not reset in fucking 4 years lmao
1SPIRIT (EUW)
: I received an unfair permaban
> 1SPIRIT: if they want to **go die** thats fine, Im not in Im pretty sure you got banned because of the bolded part. There is 0 reason why game 2 would be in your log otherwise. Riot bot is extremely stupid and doesn't understand context. You may wanna send a support ticket about it.
: > It decreases if I use chat and someone reports me. Not "if you use chat and someone reports you", it's "if you break the rules in chat and somebody reports you". Simply using the chat will not validate reports; it's breaking the rules that does. > So, to increase my honor I should play a lot and not ~~use chat~~ break the rules. FTFY. > That's pretty much the definition of nolifer... Unsurprisingly, a quick Google search comes up with something completely different. "Noun. no-lifer (plural no-lifers) (slang, derogatory) One who has no social life; a friendless introvert." Perhaps mindlessly playing match after match of a game without talking to anybody is an _aspect_ of that, but it's not the definition. And it's also not the prerequisite for Honor Progress. But, seeing as how you don't seem to be taking what I say into consideration, I can't imagine there's much more to discuss. I've outlined the problem to you, so it's up to you to solve it. If you don't manage to get to Honor Level 2 by the 19th, then I'm sorry for the loss of your rewards, and wish you better luck next year. Good day to you.
> [{quoted}](name=Umbral Regent,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=70BdRpiG,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-13T16:27:56.907+0000) > > Not "if you use chat and someone reports you", it's "if you break the rules in chat and somebody reports you". Simply using the chat will not validate reports; it's breaking the rules that does. > > FTFY. > > Unsurprisingly, a quick Google search comes up with something completely different. > > "Noun. no-lifer (plural no-lifers) (slang, derogatory) One who has no social life; a friendless introvert." > > Perhaps mindlessly playing match after match of a game without talking to anybody is an _aspect_ of that, but it's not the definition. > > And it's also not the prerequisite for Honor Progress. > > But, seeing as how you don't seem to be taking what I say into consideration, I can't imagine there's much more to discuss. I've outlined the problem to you, so it's up to you to solve it. > > If you don't manage to get to Honor Level 2 by the 19th, then I'm sorry for the loss of your rewards, and wish you better luck next year. Good day to you. The problem is that it's not documented anywhere, which behaviours are considered punishable by the system. So if I type anything into the chat, it might trigger something if I get reported. The only safe way is to not use chat. I think the better solution is just not care about rewards. Not worth to try farm honor, when it's super slow and my progress gets slowed by random reports.
: Why it says my honor is too low for ranked rewards when I haven't been punished for over a year?????
Idk, I get around 1-2 honors each game, sometimes even 3-4 if I hard carry.
: you have no games of aatrox in ur ranked season, the loss of ranked rewards don't do anything to you, your current rank border will still be displayed https://eune.op.gg/summoner/champions/userName=Aryan%20MasterRage
> [{quoted}](name=Summoner SpeII,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=70BdRpiG,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-11-13T18:44:32.641+0000) > > you have no games of aatrox in ur ranked season, the loss of ranked rewards don't do anything to you, your current rank border will still be displayed > https://eune.op.gg/summoner/champions/userName=Aryan%20MasterRage Yea I guess you are right, the honor doesn't seem to have any effect on the border. I don't care about the skin anyway, It's worthless since every player above silver gets it.
: > [{quoted}](name=Aryan MasterRage,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=70BdRpiG,comment-id=00010000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-13T16:04:38.562+0000) > > Yea except I never run it down or start arguments in the chat. (after my last punishment) So if what Arcade Lulu is describing doesn’t describe you, then I’d recommend submitting a support ticket to ask why you hadn’t ranked up in honor. Because if you hadn’t progressed *in a year* that’s pretty strange if you hadn’t had some toxicity in your games.
> [{quoted}](name=Periscope,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=70BdRpiG,comment-id=000100000000000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-11-13T17:40:19.317+0000) > > So if what Arcade Lulu is describing doesn’t describe you, then I’d recommend submitting a support ticket to ask why you hadn’t ranked up in honor. Because if you hadn’t progressed *in a year* that’s pretty strange if you hadn’t had some toxicity in your games. It's just too slow for normal player. I have gotten a total of 7 checkpoints since the punishment. But one checkpoint takes like 40 games or so. Takes me two months to get one checkpoint.
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Aryan MasterRage,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=70BdRpiG,comment-id=00010000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-13T16:04:38.562+0000) > > Yea except I never run it down or start arguments in the chat. (after my last punishment) Just because you never run it down or start arguments (keyword being 'start') doesn't mean you aren't being toxic Maybe you aren't even noticing it yourself But your honor lvl not going up for the entire year tells us enough about this
> [{quoted}](name=Arcade Lulu,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=70BdRpiG,comment-id=000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-13T16:09:05.853+0000) > > Just because you never run it down or start arguments (keyword being 'start') doesn't mean you aren't being toxic > Maybe you aren't even noticing it yourself > But your honor lvl not going up for the entire year tells us enough about this It's gone from 0 to 1 3/4 checkpoints. It's just too slow for normal player and had weird incentives like not using chat
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Aryan MasterRage,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=70BdRpiG,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-13T15:52:11.324+0000) > > Proof please if you make such claims. https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Honor "Individuals punished for their behavior will get demoted and will temporarily not be able to level up, severity based on how grave the penalty is: **-->Bad behavior, but not worthy of a chat restriction: Slows experience gain temporary<--.** Chat restriction: Demote to level 1, or 0 if already at level 1. 14-Day Ban: Demote to level 0." https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/115008474148-Honor-FAQ "Do I need to do anything special to progress? You level up just by playing to win in your games.** Show up, don’t intentionally work against team, and you’ll progress in the coming weeks and months.** If your teammates honor you a lot, you’ll get a slight bonus in progression and rewards like loading screen flairs." You want more?
> [{quoted}](name=Arcade Lulu,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=70BdRpiG,comment-id=0001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-13T15:57:56.019+0000) > > https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Honor > "Individuals punished for their behavior will get demoted and will temporarily not be able to level up, severity based on how grave the penalty is: > **-->Bad behavior, but not worthy of a chat restriction: Slows experience gain temporary<--.** > Chat restriction: Demote to level 1, or 0 if already at level 1. > 14-Day Ban: Demote to level 0." > > https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/115008474148-Honor-FAQ > "Do I need to do anything special to progress? > > You level up just by playing to win in your games.** Show up, don’t intentionally work against team, and you’ll progress in the coming weeks and months.** If your teammates honor you a lot, you’ll get a slight bonus in progression and rewards like loading screen flairs." > > You want more? Yea except I never run it down or start arguments in the chat. (after my last punishment)
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Aryan MasterRage,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=70BdRpiG,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-13T15:16:02.491+0000) > > Yea but why it's not reset after MORE THAN A YEAR? It doesn't make any sense I don't get SEASON REWADS because I was punished LAST SEASON? You aren't gaining honor levels because you're still breaking the rules, being toxic, not enough to get punished but enough to be noticed and that's keeping your honor lvl down
> [{quoted}](name=Arcade Lulu,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=70BdRpiG,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-13T15:21:27.046+0000) > > You aren't gaining honor levels because you're still breaking the rules, being toxic, not enough to get punished but enough to be noticed and that's keeping your honor lvl down Proof please if you make such claims.
: > 3) Maybe a few times, I don't know since nowadays people might get offended by whatever Then there's probably your problem. You don't seem to care about your behavior, dismissing it as people simply "get(ting) offended by whatever (nowadays)". > It looks like this system is designed for a nolifer who plays 2000 games per season or something. It might help if you stopped trying to attribute it to something so arbitrary as "I'm just not playing enough to match a no-lifer"; I've already pointed out to you twice now that continued misbehavior can validate reports, which can slow your Honor progress. And it's probable that you're misbehaving more than you believe you are, if, again, it's taken you over a year and you still haven't reached Honor Level 2. If you really want to regain Honor Level 2, you have to stop and think "what am I doing wrong that's making this take so long?" And the longer you keep brushing it off as "Everyone's offended by everything" or "I just need to play like a no-lifer", the longer you'll take to progress in the Honor System.
> [{quoted}](name=Umbral Regent,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=70BdRpiG,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-11-13T15:23:47.781+0000) > > Then there's probably your problem. You don't seem to care about your behavior, dismissing it as people simply "get(ting) offended by whatever (nowadays)". > > It might help if you stopped trying to attribute it to something so arbitrary as "I'm just not playing enough to match a no-lifer"; I've already pointed out to you twice now that continued misbehavior can validate reports, which can slow your Honor progress. > > And it's probable that you're misbehaving more than you believe you are, if, again, it's taken you over a year and you still haven't reached Honor Level 2. If you really want to regain Honor Level 2, you have to stop and think "what am I doing wrong that's making this take so long?" > > And the longer you keep brushing it off as "Everyone's offended by everything" or "I just need to play like a no-lifer", the longer you'll take to progress in the Honor System. Well, what else it is? It only increases when I play games. It decreases if I use chat and someone reports me. So, to increase my honor I should play a lot and not use chat. That's pretty much the definition of nolifer...
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Aryan MasterRage,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=70BdRpiG,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-11-13T15:05:08.928+0000) > > https://imgur.com/RjdIkFM And there's the reason You need honor lvl 2+ to be able to get rewards
> [{quoted}](name=Arcade Lulu,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=70BdRpiG,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-11-13T15:07:46.452+0000) > > And there's the reason > > You need honor lvl 2+ to be able to get rewards Yea but why it's not reset after MORE THAN A YEAR? It doesn't make any sense I don't get SEASON REWADS because I was punished LAST SEASON?
: > **Why it says my honor is too low for ranked rewards when I haven't been punished for over a year?????** Because Honor isn't just a measure of "have I been punished in x amount of time", it's tied to your behavior. Here's some questions for you; 1) How often have you played since getting punished last year? 2) Have you been using the chat during that time? 3) Have you been using the chat negatively during that time? Your Honor level isn't going to automatically increase over time. You need to play games, and you need to show good behavior for it to increase; if you're still misbehaving (even low-key misbehavior like defeatism and passive aggressive remarks will validate a report, BTW), valid reports _will_ stall your Honor progress. So ultimately, if you're not Honor Level 2 after more than a year since your last punishment...Odds are high that the problem is you.
> [{quoted}](name=Umbral Regent,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=70BdRpiG,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-11-13T15:05:10.066+0000) > > Because Honor isn't just a measure of "have I been punished in x amount of time", it's tied to your behavior. > > Here's some questions for you; > > 1) How often have you played since getting punished last year? > 2) Have you been using the chat during that time? > 3) Have you been using the chat negatively during that time? > > Your Honor level isn't going to automatically increase over time. You need to play games, and you need to show good behavior for it to increase; if you're still misbehaving (even low-key misbehavior like defeatism and passive aggressive remarks will validate a report, BTW), valid reports _will_ stall your Honor progress. > > So ultimately, if you're not Honor Level 2 after more than a year since your last punishment...Odds are high that the problem is you. 1) Ranked stats show 209 games this season, I would estimate maybe 300 total since last November. If TFT counts then close to 400? 2) Ofc 3) Maybe a few times, I don't know since nowadays people might get offended by whatever It looks like this system is designed for a nolifer who plays 2000 games per season or something.
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: What honor level are you?
> [{quoted}](name=Arcade Lulu,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=70BdRpiG,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-11-13T15:01:46.410+0000) > > What honor level are you? https://imgur.com/RjdIkFM
Comentários de Rioters
: > [{quoted}](name=Aryan MasterRage,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gBFnyG7j,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-11-05T11:53:38.815+0000) > > Ryze counters Vlad. You cannot play Vlad vs Ryze without having pretty serious jungle help. Also he's not that tanky, he doesn't build stuff like FH or visage anymore. The only tanky effect compared to regular mages is the active from Seraph's. > > I think his rework was really bad. He's supposed to be an entry-level mage with short range and sustained damage and ability to build somewhat tankier items and still do respectable dps. Now he has an ultimate that is one of the hardest abilities in the game to use effectively and his spell damage is too high for being a sustained dps. > > The solution should be to pretty much revert his rework. Nerf his base damages and ratios. Replace the ulti with something that gives fighting power like his old ultimate to make him more reliant on ulti to get kills. He has access Frozen Heart and Abyssal Mask and still deals tons of dmg
> [{quoted}](name=Commando9800,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gBFnyG7j,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-11-05T12:04:51.952+0000) > > He has access Frozen Heart and Abyssal Mask and still deals tons of dmg It's not effective anymore since the mana ratios are much worse than they used to be and CDR is easy to get to even 40% from just seraph's + runes.
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: Can you stop Ryze from pressuring a lane with mana items?
Ryze counters Vlad. You cannot play Vlad vs Ryze without having pretty serious jungle help. Also he's not that tanky, he doesn't build stuff like FH or visage anymore. The only tanky effect compared to regular mages is the active from Seraph's. I think his rework was really bad. He's supposed to be an entry-level mage with short range and sustained damage and ability to build somewhat tankier items and still do respectable dps. Now he has an ultimate that is one of the hardest abilities in the game to use effectively and his spell damage is too high for being a sustained dps. The solution should be to pretty much revert his rework. Nerf his base damages and ratios. Replace the ulti with something that gives fighting power like his old ultimate to make him more reliant on ulti to get kills.
: Can we tone down damage and make league require skill again?
There are two problems. 1st, runes. All runes pretty much add damage. Even defensive runes are something like "prevent some damage and deal some damage" like Grasp. We should have pure defensive runes too. 2nd, defensive items suck. Items like Dead man's plate and Sunfire have been nerfed to oblivion. Everyone buys stuff like stopwatch instead, because stasis helps much more than overpriced tank stats. I don't see anyone building e.g. Randuins anymore, because the cost-effectiveness is just crap. Pretty much all defensive items should have their stats increased by 10-20%.
: If you make 90% of game "end" at 15min, at least let us 4-1 surrender.
I sometimes use it as a "punishment" for the feeders (since Riot doesn't hand them any real punishment...). If my team decided it's good to feed enemy team then they should at least watch how nice it is to play from 10k gold behind before they go feed next game.
Nagake (EUNE)
: Perma banned for a single insult while being the one that was insulted all game
Really idiotic ban but that's expected from Riot's garbage robot.
AdamrCc (EUW)
: The elder dragon execute outright invalidates champions such as Warwick and Olaf.
Tbh I don't understand why Riot gets their dick hard on executes. Everything is changed to be an execute. For example why the hell Veigar ulti is an execute? It used to scale based on enemy AP and now it scales on missing health. Veigar is not supposed to be an assassin.
GripaAviara (EUNE)
: Yeah the unkillable 9/0 solo killer Ryze sure had nothing to do with it
> [{quoted}](name=GripaAviara,realm=EUNE,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=uTX67Al8,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-10-26T21:32:16.719+0000) > > Yeah the unkillable 9/0 solo killer Ryze sure had nothing to do with it Ryze was not usually even picked first by FPX. If Ryze would be OP, I guess then Nemesis would have instant locked it for himself and carried. Wait a moment, it didn't happen. What happened was Nemesis being crap and Doinb being good and carrying his team with his best champ.
: Not sure why Ryze is left in this state. Extremely easy to play, safe lane phase, huge late game scaling... They should just nerf him to a 47% winrate until they can figure out what to do with him and give him a large-scale rework (something like they did with kayle/morgana)-- and not a mini-rework that barely changes anything. The whole "machine-gun" spam your skills gameplay isn't something that appears they can balance. I get that Ryze is one of the originals, so there needs to be a place for straightforward and simple kits, but there's got to be something they can do. "Mage on the run", there's got to be something they can do with that.
> [{quoted}](name=jovack,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=uTX67Al8,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-10-26T17:33:08.844+0000) > > Not sure why Ryze is left in this state. Extremely easy to play, safe lane phase, huge late game scaling... > They should just nerf him to a 47% winrate until they can figure out what to do with him and give him a large-scale rework (something like they did with kayle/morgana)-- and not a mini-rework that barely changes anything. The whole "machine-gun" spam your skills gameplay isn't something that appears they can balance. > I get that Ryze is one of the originals, so there needs to be a place for straightforward and simple kits, but there's got to be something they can do. > "Mage on the run", there's got to be something they can do with that. He already has a 47% win rate https://lolalytics.com/lol/ryze/?lane=middle
: NA needs to lose at least 1 spot for Worlds.
I think following distribution would make most sense: LCK 4 LPL 3 EU 2 NA 1 Rest of the spots earned through play-ins.
RtClick (NA)
: Garen mini rework in current form, is a failure.
Tbh why he was changed in the first place? He was fine.
: > [{quoted}](name=Aryan MasterRage,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=lfQNPEzj,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-10-22T17:09:40.328+0000) > > For me it was probably the trolls, afkers and feeders who were in my team and trolled the game. Always someone else, isn't it?
> [{quoted}](name=hshtagniemehrcdu,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=lfQNPEzj,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-10-23T12:20:56.320+0000) > > Always someone else, isn't it? Why would someone be toxic without any reason? Of course it happens because of someone or something.
: This is what i am banned for lol
You have been unfairly banned.
Comentários de Rioters
: Why am I still lvl 0 honor
The honor system just sucks. I was chat restricted LAST NOVEMBER and I'm still like honor 1 with 2 checkpoints or something. My last checkpoints was many months ago even though I haven't even been playing much and definitely not being toxic. I think the best idea is just not care about honor, it's too flawed to take seriously. At least if you have already been punished.
: > [{quoted}](name=Aryan MasterRage,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GWEhlJUV,comment-id=00110000000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-22T02:23:16.982+0000) > > Aaand he's still playing and running it down. You're not kidding. He just played a game 8 minutes ago. What the actual...
> [{quoted}](name=OneMustFall,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GWEhlJUV,comment-id=001100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-22T02:57:11.943+0000) > > You're not kidding. He just played a game 8 minutes ago. What the actual... Yeah I even watched it a while and he just suicide to turret a couple of times first, then afk in base and sometimes walks to the jungle and afks there waiting to get killed. I just have no idea how it's not possible for Riot's system to catch such a blatant feeder and troll. Literally all signs of trolling present. By the way he changed his account name and now he seems to be playing properly, going like 18/0 every game. And still not banned I guess?
: > [{quoted}](name=KnKitsune,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GWEhlJUV,comment-id=001100000000,timestamp=2019-10-21T20:50:30.005+0000) > > You have to respond to the ticket itself for a human to show up. Interesting, I replied to my ticket and it did reopen the ticket. I actually got this response minutes later... "Hi there, Thanks for writing in, ruining games on purpose is never OK and I appreciate you letting us know about this behavior. I'll investigate this CheryllWs player and make sure justice is done, but just as a heads up I won't be able to tell you anything about the result. Let me know if there's anything else I can help ya with! Skiwi Player Support" Thank you for making me aware of this. Apparently just clicking on "Request A Human" does nothing, you have to actually reply to your own request to get stuff done. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
> [{quoted}](name=OneMustFall,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GWEhlJUV,comment-id=0011000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-22T01:25:39.667+0000) > > Interesting, I replied to my ticket and it did reopen the ticket. I actually got this response minutes later... > > "Hi there, > > Thanks for writing in, ruining games on purpose is never OK and I appreciate you letting us know about this behavior. > > I'll investigate this CheryllWs player and make sure justice is done, but just as a heads up I won't be able to tell you anything about the result. > > Let me know if there's anything else I can help ya with! > > Skiwi > Player Support" > > Thank you for making me aware of this. Apparently just clicking on "Request A Human" does nothing, you have to actually reply to your own request to get stuff done. > > {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}} Aaand he's still playing and running it down.
: > Why we even have reporting if the amount doesn't matter? ...I don't understand this question. Why should number of reports matter in regards to punishments? Do you really, legitimately want the IFS to autopunish you if you're reported by 9 people? Reporting is there so that players can ping Riot through the IFS that someone's behavior is unsportsmanlike, in breach of the rules, or otherwise making the game un-fun. The reason that the amount of reports doesn't matter is because _having a system that would punish people simply for being reported by x number of players per-game would be unfair and ultimately broken._ Players are punished for their behavior, _not_ for the amount of reports they receive. > Why you and Riot try to say it would be so stupidly designed that one guy crying is the same as 9 people reporting a guy? Likewise, I don't understand what you mean here. If mass-reports mattered in regards to punishments, then the system would be fundamentally broken - people could just spam reports against anyone and everyone and inevitably, with enough people doing the same thing, the system would start issuing a lot of punishments to players who don't deserve it. One report is the same as nine reports; it's a boolean flag, meaning that the IFS checks for one of two values. Either zero, which indicates that no report was filed, or any value greater than zero, indicating that a player has been reported. After that, the number of reports _do not matter_. The player's behavior does. And that's not stupid design. It makes it so that people can't abuse the system by rallying for mass reports to ensure one person gets punished when they don't deserve it.
> Why should number of reports matter in regards to punishments? Isn't it obvious? Because pissing off 9 people by verbal abuse is worse than pissing off one person? Or 9 people thinking a guy is feeding means that the guy was actually more likely to be feeding compared to being reported by only one person? Since IFS is bad to detect verbal abuse and especially feeding, utilizing the report data should be a priority. > Do you really, legitimately want the IFS to autopunish you if you're reported by 9 people? No autopunish but getting reported by only 1 party shouldn't even trigger a review. It's just someone being mad. Getting more reports should push the person closer to the punishment threshold. > Players are punished for their behavior, not for the amount of reports they receive. Why not just remove reporting and review everyone then? > If mass-reports mattered in regards to punishments, then the system would be fundamentally broken - people could just spam reports against anyone and everyone and inevitably, with enough people doing the same thing, the system would start issuing a lot of punishments to players who don't deserve it. Could be solved by limiting the reports. Let's say you get 1 report per game and you can have max 10 reports stacked. Or disqualifying the reports from players who report much more than average.
: Getting x9 reported wouldn't matter if you're not breaking the rules. You don't need to defend yourself from people who rally false reports against you, and frankly, "defending yourself" against report rallying typically only leads to validating those reports in the first place and resulting in a punishment. The IFS doesn't care how many people report you. More reports != greater odds of punishment. It only takes _one_ report for the IFS to review your behavior, and if that review turns up with no evidence of rules being broken? You don't get punished. More reports do not affect the review or your odds of getting punished in any way.
> [{quoted}](name=Umbral Regent,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=6PKEVU27,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-08-03T21:05:29.957+0000) > > Getting x9 reported wouldn't matter if you're not breaking the rules. You don't need to defend yourself from people who rally false reports against you, and frankly, "defending yourself" against report rallying typically only leads to validating those reports in the first place and resulting in a punishment. > > The IFS doesn't care how many people report you. More reports != greater odds of punishment. It only takes _one_ report for the IFS to review your behavior, and if that review turns up with no evidence of rules being broken? You don't get punished. More reports do not affect the review or your odds of getting punished in any way. Why we even have reporting if the amount doesn't matter? Why you and Riot try to say it would be so stupidly designed that one guy crying is the same as 9 people reporting a guy?
: turning off ally chat works.
yeah be losing lane... then you see in chat [All] Enemy: for what? [All] Enemy: im just better than him [All] Enemy: okay if you insist then u realize ur getting x9 reported because you didn't get to defend yourself in time.
TiltM3 (EUW)
: Perm banned
Riot rather bans a guy annoyed about hate speech than the actual bigot... pro ban system XD
Xphineas (NA)
: Yeah, the way the report system works is; if someone reports you the game is flagged, doesnt matter if you are 9x reported, any number of reports flags the game. If you didnt do anything wrong, perfect, no punishment! But if you did, you will get punished
That's what riot says as they hope people would stop report calling. I think in reality x9 reports weigh more than one. It would make no sense to get banned because ONE guy was annoyed about you.
keisie (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Aryan MasterRage,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=qiPFxtE2,comment-id=0011,timestamp=2019-06-18T15:38:06.401+0000) > > So nightblue did everyone a service by getting a griefer banned and he should be banned for that? Just why? https://www.twitch.tv/nightblue3/clip/FragileFairOxAMPEnergy https://mobile.twitter.com/JapImport/status/1136378564935335936 i'll just leave this here,since i smell another nb3 fanboi trying to defend his actions
> [{quoted}](name=keisie,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=qiPFxtE2,comment-id=00110000,timestamp=2019-06-18T15:46:19.087+0000) > > https://www.twitch.tv/nightblue3/clip/FragileFairOxAMPEnergy > https://mobile.twitter.com/JapImport/status/1136378564935335936 > i'll just leave this here,since i smell another nb3 fanboi trying to defend his actions Well, did he get banned from that? I actually got chat restricted once for threatening to feed unless I got my role in champ select. So a simple report would have been enough.
PKL112 (EUNE)
: Question
Well, what's the point making a new account now? Just do it in case you actually get that permaban, it doesn't prevent creating new account.
Lokalo (EUW)
: NB3 still unbanned? RIOT?!?!
So nightblue did everyone a service by getting a griefer banned and he should be banned for that? Just why?
: "NA phenomenon"
There are a bunch of Champs with higher win rate though
: "NA phenomenon"
There are a bunch of Champs with higher win rate though
Vindsvept (EUW)
: Justified Ban?
: So if someone drops a hard R in chat to start the game. What is there to do?
Comentários de Rioters
: reported my inting teammate and he is still not banned
Riot doesn't care about feeders. I have reported hundreds and only a handful have got banned. That's also why I have almost stopped playing this game...
Comentários de Rioters
: >Kuroki Kaze: you are so useless The very next line: >Kuroki Kaze: where the flame? I don't have the words.
Calling someone useless is not flame dude. It just means they are not doing anything useful for the team and they should farm up or splitpush or do something else than what they are currently doing...
Pault97 (EUW)
: Does Xerath need a buff?
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