Powwer69 (NA)
: Riot Philosophy
Off-meta is fine, until people start to dislike it. Thats basically how it goes. Ask any1 here what kind of off-meta pick would they prefer and i shit you not it will be some meme-y and completely weak bs that only works in low level blind pick games. people dont realise that if off-meta pick doesnt have something that makes it better than meta picks, it wont be played. The community needs to make a choice: Either allow off-meta, but in return deal with the fact that it will sometimes be bonkers and it will be up to them to find answers to it, or dont allow off-meta, and dont allow any champ to go out of their intended roles and builds.
MrKserwGw (EUNE)
: Suggestion that might help community and reduce toxicity
It would create "prisoner island" which is something riot is against it. But as some1 who plays csgo which has trust factor, I love it. it makes it that you being positive actually has an impact on the quality of your matches.
: Not taking sides but based on my observation. Having gone through Riot posts and player comments for the past few months, people are always complaining no matter what changes are made. There is always someone unhappy. I agree that Riot hasn't really been on their A game either. (Client bugs, Punishment system, balance issues etc.) So its understandable how everyone is dissatisfied. But now it feels like we're just jumping bandwagon instead of thinking this through. {{sticker:sg-janna}} If someone has limited number of hours to play the game. Are they going to spend their time getting their mains to its primary Elo? Or keep going on smurf accounts to do it?! I am guessing that Riot has stats on how long the majority of the players play the game. And most probably have a life outside of league. So if its going to take a lot longer to get to a high rating on a smurf, how _many_ smurf accounts are they going to get back to its original elo? {{sticker:sg-lux-2}} Another thing to take note. It doesn't matter if they spend longer and make your life hell in a certain bracket. If they weren't _already_ doing it, they'd probably jump over to _another_ smurf account and rinse-repeat. So it makes no difference if they took longer or not; it has absolutely no impact on you because these guys aren't limited to the number of accounts. If not the current one, they'd jump to another one after reaching their skill cap. Most of them are smurfing for the enjoyment and comparing stats on how fast they can get to a certain elo. Lose that high and while its not going to dissuade everyone; it certainly _will_ have an _impact_. {{sticker:sg-lulu}} Of-course, on the flipside this does affect the other normal players as well. Making climbing a lot more difficult. Personally, I don't like the change but its not absolutely nonsense in my opinion. If its like killing a 1000 enemies at the expense of 900 troops, I'd still go with how it originally was. Maybe look for a better option than this. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-rainbows}}
> [{quoted}](name=Yin Yang Taoist,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=PArEIWA6,comment-id=0010,timestamp=2020-02-19T16:24:33.848+0000) > > If someone has limited number of hours to play the game. Are they going to spend their time getting their mains to its primary Elo? Or keep going on smurf accounts to do it?! I am guessing that Riot has stats on how long the majority of the players play the game. And most probably have a life outside of league. So if its going to take a lot longer to get to a high rating on a smurf, how _many_ smurf accounts are they going to get back to its original elo? {{sticker:sg-lux-2}} Youre right, but the problem is that this will affect normal players aswell. > Another thing to take note. It doesn't matter if they spend longer and make your life hell in a certain bracket. If they weren't _already_ doing it, they'd probably jump over to _another_ smurf account and rinse-repeat. So it makes no difference if they took longer or not; it has absolutely no impact on you because these guys aren't limited to the number of accounts. If not the current one, they'd jump to another one after reaching their skill cap. Most of them are smurfing for the enjoyment and comparing stats on how fast they can get to a certain elo. Lose that high and while its not going to dissuade everyone; it certainly _will_ have an _impact_. {{sticker:sg-lulu}} I'm not worried about smurfs, I dont give a fucdk about them. As you said, it makes no difference to them. But it's still a change that affects us negatively. > Of-course, on the flipside this does affect the other normal players as well. Making climbing a lot more difficult. Personally, I don't like the change but its not absolutely nonsense in my opinion. If its like killing a 1000 enemies at the expense of 900 troops, I'd still go with how it originally was. Maybe look for a better option than this. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-rainbows}} Thats...not even remotely okay. Since it wont affect smurfs that much, it will only affect normal players.
: It honestly sounds like someone at Riot got butthurt they got stomped by a smurf btw
> [{quoted}](name=Beacon Academy,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=PArEIWA6,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2020-02-19T09:58:41.884+0000) > > It honestly sounds like someone at Riot got butthurt they got stomped by a smurf btw Thats probably the case :P
rujitra (NA)
: There's a large limit to what they can do. Riot cannot watch even 1% of games - much less watch every youtube video about League of Legends. Sure, it'd be great. But it's not feasible. Just like how it'd be great if the police could sit at everyone's car and breathalyze them before they drive so they can't drive drunk - but they can't.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=u4m3AANP,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2020-02-18T23:03:52.732+0000) > > There's a large limit to what they can do. > > Riot cannot watch even 1% of games - much less watch every youtube video about League of Legends. > > Sure, it'd be great. But it's not feasible. Just like how it'd be great if the police could sit at everyone's car and breathalyze them before they drive so they can't drive drunk - but they can't. But they can take a look at their league partners and if they're doing stuff like this, warn them not to, and if they dont listen, remove them them from LPP. Although idk how many people are partners sooo if thats too much then take a look at the most popular ones.
Sałem (EUW)
: EZ fix for smurfing, SMS and ID card like in KR and they will prevent smurfing and selling accounts what means more players in higher elo = less time to wait for games in those ranks too ... there too KR has was fewer players than EU and NA and they wait like 3 max 5 min to get game in gm and c1 rank because they dont have som many smurfs and why they dont have so many ? read the first paragraph of my message
> [{quoted}](name=Sałem,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=PArEIWA6,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2020-02-18T20:08:11.621+0000) > > EZ fix for smurfing, SMS and ID card like in KR and they will prevent smurfing and selling accounts what means more players in higher elo = less time to wait for games in those ranks too ... there too I'm fine with SMS verification, but ID card one...nah, dont rly want to share my id in a videogame, personally drawing the line there.
rujitra (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Bijeesny,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=PArEIWA6,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2020-02-18T17:12:42.387+0000) > > What article r u talking about? No1 mentioned dota here. The dotesports article referenced in another thread.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=PArEIWA6,comment-id=000600000000,timestamp=2020-02-18T19:52:29.708+0000) > > The dotesports article referenced in another thread. Then why r u talking about it in this thread hahah
King Lego (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Bijeesny,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=PArEIWA6,comment-id=0001000100000000,timestamp=2020-02-18T16:31:49.475+0000) > > It was tied to champ design (and balance?). MM is another thing. Thats why I said it was in a different context hahha Forgive me but what you mean with "MM"? If you meant "MMR" then okay I get that, but of you literally meant "MM" then this is the 1st time I see/hear such term...
> [{quoted}](name=King Lego,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=PArEIWA6,comment-id=00010001000000000000,timestamp=2020-02-18T19:40:54.033+0000) > > Forgive me but what you mean with "MM"? > If you meant "MMR" then okay I get that, but of you literally meant "MM" then this is the 1st time I see/hear such term... MM = matchmaking
Nea104 (EUW)
: This is called "being forced to grind". Shameful. At least they've finally admitted that their system is intentionally **rigged**.
> [{quoted}](name=Nea104,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=PArEIWA6,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2020-02-18T19:13:45.725+0000) > > This is called "being forced to grind". > > Shameful. At least they've finally admitted that their system is intentionally **rigged**. Well, not completely, they worded it in a way to make it seem like they're trying to get rid of smurfs xD
: you know something is fucked up when even the rito suckers at lolreddit give a thread thats A COMPLAINT almost 2k uploads (obviously nazi mods deleting it lol) riot and their genius system. "for years ppl complain they are gold and play vs plat/dia ppl and only gain like 18 lp..." so what do they do? they make it even worse and excuse it with "oh yeah theres maybe 5% of all players that smurf in low elo SO WE PUNISH EVERYONE!" not to mention these changes make no sense. your mmr still goes up the same way... (the thing that matters) just your rank doesnt. ??????????? so even if im a smurf, if it took me 20 games to get matched with dias again, it will still take me 20 games to get matched with dias. the only difference: before i was plat 1 after those 20 games. now it says im gold 2. BUT THE MMR IS STILL THE SAME! this fucks the system up EVEN MORE LOL!!!!
> [{quoted}](name=JustA kleo,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=PArEIWA6,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2020-02-18T17:57:11.730+0000) > > you know something is fucked up when even the rito suckers at lolreddit give a thread thats A COMPLAINT almost 2k uploads (obviously nazi mods deleting it lol) > > riot and their genius system. > > "for years ppl complain they are gold and play vs plat/dia ppl and only gain like 18 lp..." > so what do they do? they make it even worse and excuse it with > "oh yeah theres maybe 5% of all players that smurf in low elo SO WE PUNISH EVERYONE!" > > not to mention these changes make no sense. > your mmr still goes up the same way... (the thing that matters) just your rank doesnt. > ??????????? > > so even if im a smurf, if it took me 20 games to get matched with dias again, it will still take me 20 games to get matched with dias. > > the only difference: before i was plat 1 after those 20 games. > now it says im gold 2. BUT THE MMR IS STILL THE SAME! > > this fucks the system up EVEN MORE LOL!!!! I call it "the smoll indie company rito special" :P But yea, it makes no sense. These changes will affect us normal players more than it will affect smurfs imo.
Vevut (NA)
: I really don't understand how Riot can't comprehend that this just makes smurfs play in low elo even longer. Also nothing is more frustrating than having a 67% win rate and gaining 18 LP and losing 20 when you're playing four divisions above on ranked ladder. It just makes me want to quit League not play more.
> [{quoted}](name=Vevut,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=PArEIWA6,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2020-02-18T17:45:37.997+0000) > > I really don't understand how Riot can't comprehend that this just makes smurfs play in low elo even longer. Also nothing is more frustrating than having a 67% win rate and gaining 18 LP and losing 20 when you're playing four divisions above on ranked ladder. It just makes me want to quit League not play more. I already quit it couple of days ago so yea, i feel ya :/
rujitra (NA)
: The article has a heavy DOTA bias. DOTAs ranking system has always been complete shit, the changes that DOTA made absolutely did **not** work, and any article that suggests otherwise should just be laughed at.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=PArEIWA6,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2020-02-18T17:05:11.371+0000) > > The article has a heavy DOTA bias. DOTAs ranking system has always been complete shit, the changes that DOTA made absolutely did **not** work, and any article that suggests otherwise should just be laughed at. What article r u talking about? No1 mentioned dota here.
King Lego (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Bijeesny,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=PArEIWA6,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2020-02-18T15:46:50.464+0000) > > Well, it was said in a different context, but you can still apply it here ahhaha And what exactly was the context of it? WuKong mains and one-tricks got ignored by a rioter and preferred faker's opinion (aka pro players) who they don't even have 1000 mastery points let alone even 100?
> [{quoted}](name=King Lego,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=PArEIWA6,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2020-02-18T15:51:49.309+0000) > > And what exactly was the context of it? It was tied to champ design (and balance?). MM is another thing. Thats why I said it was in a different context hahha
King Lego (EUNE)
: I rarely play ranked and this will probably make me stop play ranked. I wish smurfing is reportable and bannable but that's just stupid to even think that. Is the "200 years experience" meme still alive for this one??
> [{quoted}](name=King Lego,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=PArEIWA6,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2020-02-18T15:30:48.545+0000) > > Is the "200 years experience" meme still alive for this one?? Well, it was said in a different context, but you can still apply it here ahhaha
kocikreka (EUW)
: MMR system?
https://twitter.com/RiotSupport/status/1229545099438239744?s=19
Comentários de Rioters
Garson211 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Saezio,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EroVnzdF,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2020-02-18T00:27:14.665+0000) > > OK, you are right and I know it sucks, and ideally autofill should never exist in a ranked Queue. > > BUT you can solve that problem urself... Just queue up as support to get protection every few games. this way you guaranteed won't be jungle Its not working like that
> [{quoted}](name=Garson211,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EroVnzdF,comment-id=00020002,timestamp=2020-02-18T07:50:39.194+0000) > > Its not working like that It does. Queuing for support grants you autofill protection.
Scibra (NA)
: On the last note, I would say minimum Mastery 4, but even then, consider how many games it takes to get a champion to Mastery 4, and how many champions you need to own to start playing ranked. WAAAAY longer than getting to level 30. Granted, I don't see much of an issue here, considering the greatest deterrent to smurfing in ranked is to make the new account pre-ranked requirements take longer, and the longer they take, the more likely actual new players come out of it knowing the game better.
> [{quoted}](name=Scibra,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wQAAB9z4,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2020-02-18T09:40:16.780+0000) > > On the last note, I would say minimum Mastery 4, but even then, consider how many games it takes to get a champion to Mastery 4, and how many champions you need to own to start playing ranked. WAAAAY longer than getting to level 30. Getting enough champs for ranked is piss easy. At lvl 10, you can literally have 10k+ BE thanks to daily rewards (which let you pick champ for each lane + starting champs: lux, ahri, mf, darius, yi + BE) and lvl up rewards from lvl 1-10.
Zedthul (NA)
: Range supports have take over the Top Lane
"Range supports have take over the Top Lane" *names only 2 ranged supps that are good atm* *ignores sona's pickrate* *ignores every other melee thats high up there with sona and soraka* {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}}
IVSakenz (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Bijeesny,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=dX2Gg3af,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2020-02-17T21:17:24.738+0000) > > But if the goalkeeper starts to throw balls he catches into his own goal, he will be removed from the game and his team will get some sort of compensation (or goals will be canceled idk im not a football expert, but it definitelly wont be allowed to keep those goals) > We're talking about trolling here, not having a bad game. yes they would keep the goals, and 99% of what people call trolling in this community is just a new player or someone having a bad game.. For example.. the very last game I played.. A duo reported me for "trolling" because I had a dragon stolen when the 3 players close to me could not be bothered to land a single hit or even stay in river to deter the other team from trying to steal... instead they go to lanes and start CS..and the other recalls.. after I pinged for assist 5 or 6 times. This is also the reason that true inters and trolls do not get punished.. because they have to go through 8000 bogus reports in order to find a single true case..so what happens? I doubt they even look at reports of trolling at this point.. because I have not seen a single person get banned for it..
> [{quoted}](name=IVSakenz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=dX2Gg3af,comment-id=000400000002,timestamp=2020-02-17T22:24:59.745+0000) > > yes they would keep the goals, and 99% of what people call trolling in this community is just a new player or someone having a bad game.. And again, the post is talking about trolling, not looking like trolling but it's actually just having a bad game.
: Unfortunately, in Soccer (football) according to the https://ussoccer.app.box.com/s/xx3byxqgodqtl1h15865/file/296741999141 Laws of the Game (as provided by FIFA and authorized annually by IFAB), players can't be subbed out if they refuse to leave the field.
> [{quoted}](name=Silent Gravity,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=dX2Gg3af,comment-id=000400000003,timestamp=2020-02-18T00:39:39.014+0000) > > Unfortunately, in Soccer (football) according to the https://ussoccer.app.box.com/s/xx3byxqgodqtl1h15865/file/296741999141 Laws of the Game (as provided by FIFA and authorized annually by IFAB), players can't be subbed out if they refuse to leave the field. So basically a player can straight up fuck around on the field and no1 can do shit to him? srsly?
IVSakenz (NA)
: There is no way for this to have any kind of practical application.. How would the game determine this before LP is handed out? I think many people forget this is a team game.. and like any other team game, an individuals performance in said game can not excuse the loss.. Thats like a football team trying to get a loss erased from their record because the running back did not have a good game..it is plain and simply never going to happen.
> [{quoted}](name=IVSakenz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=dX2Gg3af,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2020-02-17T20:24:55.573+0000) > > Thats like a football team trying to get a loss erased from their record because the running back did not have a good game..it is plain and simply never going to happen. But if the goalkeeper starts to throw balls he catches into his own goal, he will be removed from the game and his team will get some sort of compensation (or goals will be canceled idk im not a football expert, but it definitelly wont be allowed to keep those goals) We're talking about trolling here, not having a bad game.
Sałem (EUW)
: as my league support player team told me:"some you win some you lose its always 40 win 40 lose and 20 you can control" ... a sea of lie you don't win that in million years until they ban idiots and Rq and feeders from ranked and fix the matchmaking that is garbage and stop hind the MMR while the visual rank means nothing only to statifie you so you can say hey I'm this rank while it can frustrate you because of idiots you get in-game like this
> [{quoted}](name=Sałem,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sZLYXW1X,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2020-02-17T15:36:01.810+0000) > > as my league support player team told me:"some you win some you lose its always 40 win 40 lose and 20 you can control" ... Saddest thing is that some people believe thats the vase because riot said so in a survey (what type of league player are you) with no data to back it up.
: Prime example of why noone wants to Jgl
Why do you try to kill the enemy jungler WITH THE ASSUMPTION that your laners will follow? Especially that early. Better go for safe plays rather than right ones. While you did the right thing, because of uncertain factors (your laners), it wasnt a safe play. Should've just let him go and make yourself stronger, since now he wasted time and flash trying to steal your buff, so he would be the one behind.
LuftKuss (NA)
: You sound exactly like the kind of toxic person who would do this sort of thing, calling me "idiotic" because I accepted a friend request.
> [{quoted}](name=LuftKuss,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=yHzocnPd,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2020-02-16T21:43:15.344+0000) > > You sound exactly like the kind of toxic person who would do this sort of thing, calling me "idiotic" because I accepted a friend request. How else do you call it when you accept a friend request from a person who flamed you in-game? What did you think it's gonna happen? He will be all nice and friendly and invite you to dinner? Hell naw bruh, he will flame you even more. Thats logical af. Especially when you then go on forum to complain about it...Saying it's idiotic is the best it can be described.
: "The vast majority of players agree ... everyone deserves respect on the Rift."
Youre not wrong, respect has to be earned, but there needs to be minimum respect (kinda like you will politely say hi to your classmate, for example). From that point, based on person's actions, you can decide if you will respect him more or less.
: problem solved, so my internet provide ''ziggo'' did an expiriment on sharing ipv4 adresses with other ziggo users, apparently that istn't working causing me malfunctions and let me disconnect for no reason, now they gave me my own ipv4 without sharing it with others and have no problems any more, but thank you for ur advise do!
> [{quoted}](name=BattleBunnyRxven,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EWXJG3pE,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2020-02-16T12:19:03.522+0000) > > problem solved, so my internet provide ''ziggo'' did an expiriment on sharing ipv4 adresses with other ziggo users, apparently that istn't working causing me malfunctions and let me disconnect for no reason, now they gave me my own ipv4 without sharing it with others and have no problems any more, but thank you for ur advise do! sadly I'm on vip so that wont help me :( I'm glad at least you fixed the issue 4 yourself :D
: Aftershock and Guardian are alright, Grasp is pretty meh and usually is passed up for Conqueror. Demolish Bone plating Second Wind Revitalize These minors are decent and can have impact, the rest are mediocre and are usually only taken on select few champs that can push their effects to the extreme or if they have no other options.
> [{quoted}](name=LoLsucksTFTisOK,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PEvQAEEx,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2020-02-15T20:40:52.768+0000) > > Aftershock and Guardian are alright, Grasp is pretty meh and usually is passed up for Conqueror. Saying guardian is alright is kind of a stretch. It's only used on tank supports who dont have a reliable cc.
LuftKuss (NA)
: Player told me to kill myself, what should I do?
Dude looks for drama and then complains about it on Boards lmao If he flamed you in-game, mute and report. Dont go out of your way to give him more chances to flame you because it's idiotic and at that point no1 will have any sympathy for you.
: 4 seconds lag spike
When does the lag spike happen? Is it at the specific time in the game? Cuz I have the same issue, every match 7-13 mins in-game I have lag spikes, and same as you, dont know how to fix it.
: people dont know how to play against it. and it makes them think and learn to adapt
> [{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hIMV1xqX,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2020-02-15T18:47:18.044+0000) > > people dont know how to play against it. > > and it makes them think and learn to adapt Which is something players nowadays dont want to do. They just want to play the way they're used to, and if something gets in they way to it, it must be nerfed.... Rly fucking depressing :(
Gradeient (EUW)
: taric+yi funnel strategy needs nerfs ASAP.
So whats exactly unhealthy about that strat?
: Oh man... You keep saying that I'm mad beacause I can't counter that (You said that 3 times already, bring an argument or something it's getting boring). And I'm sure I'm not the only one who can't beat that "strategy". https://i.imgur.com/O5At0WF.jpg And yeah You don't seem to understand how forums like this works so let me explain. I made a thread to state my opinion beacuse I want people to either agree or disagree with me and present their thoughts on this topic. So in my opinion funneling is unfun to play against while beeing broken. And unlike You, I've done some research and presented it. Statistics clearly shows that funneling strat isn't fair (winrate is still insane) and needs to be nerfed even more. You made a good point about how team needs to work together to make one person strong. Sadly it isn't enough to excuse Yi from having 20-40 kills when funnel is beeing executed.
> [{quoted}](name=BritishMapper,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gabHIz2v,comment-id=0001000100000000,timestamp=2020-02-15T13:02:23.472+0000) > > Oh man... > > You keep saying that I'm mad beacause I can't counter that (You said that 3 times already, bring an argument or something it's getting boring). > And I'm sure I'm not the only one who can't beat that "strategy". > > https://i.imgur.com/O5At0WF.jpg Yea, they cant beat it yet because it's not that old of a strat. And you can even see it in a pic you provided that it's not even played that much. 2.4k matches across all elos and regions aint that big. > And yeah You don't seem to understand how forums like this works so let me explain. I made a thread to state my opinion beacuse I want people to either agree or disagree with me and present their thoughts on this topic. They way you made your post does not show you're asking for opinions, it just looks like youre ranting about it. Nowhere in your post you said something like "whats your opnion on x and y?" All youre saying is that it shows flaws in the game (while not even saying what are the flaws), among other things. here's my honest opinion on the matter: It's not problematic for 2 reasons: - It's not played that long and that often, because of which players have no exposure to it which is needed in order to find the ways to beat it. Basically, not enough "trials and errors". For all we know the strat can be countered very heavily but not with the ways we're used to. - It's heavily dependant on coordiantion between teammates involved, because of which the strat can be hit and miss in SoloQ. > And unlike You, I've done some research and presented it. Statistics clearly shows that funneling strat isn't fair (winrate is still insane) and needs to be nerfed even more. Winrate doesnt tell the whole story. Yea, winrate is huge, but as i said, it only has 2.4k matches across all elos and regions. When you break it down, it's actually too rare for people to experience it and the feel of it's pros and cons. So for all we know, the reason for a high winrate could be that it's stomping people who never/rarely experience it and dont know what to do about it. > You made a good point about how team needs to work together to make one person strong. Sadly it isn't enough to excuse Yi from having 20-40 kills when funnel is beeing executed. Which wouldnt happen if you knew what to do about it. if every1 on your team drafted only around yi you would have a chance because all 4 teammates rely on 1 guy to do well.
TrulyBland (EUNE)
: Depends on the intention. There are absolutely valid reasons to ban a teammate's champion. If people do it deliberately to be dicks, I would indeed consider them trolls. Even then, the person who out of spite trolls his entire team is arguably still worse than the person who trolled one single member of this team.
> [{quoted}](name=TrulyBland,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3RI0qwiA,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2020-02-13T17:21:47.882+0000) > > Depends on the intention. There are absolutely valid reasons to ban a teammate's champion. Even if there are reasons it will still piss people off. Some will let it slide, some will troll etc. But the fact is that it will create a negative atmosphere. > Even then, the person who out of spite trolls his entire team is arguably still worse than the person who trolled one single member of this team. Since when is okay to troll one person? o.O Trolling is trolling no matter how many people are affected.
: How to ruin somebody's day : [
: It's not a "new strategy" and I don't know why You are keep calling it like that. I remember that happening to me in s8 when I still was really new to the game and back then I didn't even know what is going on and why is it working. And yeah 5 people working together to make one person strong is good sure. Problem is that there is no much You can do to actually respond to that. It's probably due to how Yi works with taric.
> [{quoted}](name=BritishMapper,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gabHIz2v,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2020-02-14T17:36:13.676+0000) > > It's not a "new strategy" and I don't know why You are keep calling it like that. I remember that happening to me in s8 when I still was really new to the game and back then I didn't even know what is going on and why is it working. I never said it's a "new strategy". I said that people who WANT NEW STRATEGIES would want things like funnel yi in the game. > And yeah 5 people working together to make one person strong is good sure. Problem is that there is no much You can do to actually respond to that. It's probably due to how Yi works with taric. How do you know that? Did you try to find ways to beat it? Like honestly? And what did you try?
: > [{quoted}](name=Bijeesny,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gabHIz2v,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2020-02-14T13:45:03.852+0000) > > tl;dr > I cannot beat a new strategy, nor i tried to, so i want it to be removed, while using my rank on EUNE to try and make my opinion more valuable. Well.. yeah I can see You didn't even read that. Yes I'm mad I cannot beat that "strategy" because it isn't possible to kill someone immortal. And also just ignore thread if You have nothing wise to say. I'm asking for opinions cause I might be wrong and it's totally healthy for the game.
> [{quoted}](name=BritishMapper,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gabHIz2v,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2020-02-14T17:13:26.895+0000) > > Well.. yeah I can see You didn't even read that. > > Yes I'm mad I cannot beat that "strategy" because it isn't possible to kill someone immortal. Did you actually look for ways to counter that strategy or you just lost against it and went "omg i cant beat that"? > And also just ignore thread if You have nothing wise to say. I'm asking for opinions cause I might be wrong and it's totally healthy for the game. Where exactly are you asking for opinions? I'll even copy-paste your post 4 every1 to see > Hello there Gamers :D > > Funneling is a thing in league since a while and Riot is trying to remove it entirely from the game which is fair, but I feel like they are not doing enough. Let me explain. > > Me and the boys were playing some league, as usual 5 premade ranked flex. We were on like 3 games winning spree and then we met 4 man Yi funnel. > After 20 minutes we weren't able to leave our fountain. I checked their op.gg's and, well... > > https://i.imgur.com/RS6SPr8.jpg > > It's not bannable, they are only showing flaws in the game that should be fixed. It is just stupid. They teach You how roles work, how to build a teamcomp with strong frontline and backline, there are tier lists, guides to play certain champs and so on, but there is Master Yi with Taric ult who 3 shots everyone under towers... > > And Before You flame me and my friends for just beeing bad at the game, well it's my 3rd season, I was plat 2 peak last season so it's like 10% of the top and that means even if some diamond players or even plat players can counter that, me and other 90% cannot :( > > Riot help pls So now that we have your post laid out, which part is you "asking for opinions"? From what I see it's just you complaining about the strat and saying how riot is not doing enough to remove it, how it shows flaws in the game and how 90% of the players cannot counter it because YOU CANT COUNTER IT (as if you're representing 90% of the playerbase lmao) And you know how it's healthy for the game? Because those kind of strategies require you to find solutions to it, aka, new picks that can counter that. That's how games evolve. (games with meta-picks) Picking MF support into malzahar and zyra support is one example of that....would you every think that MF would be picked as a support if these 2 mages werent picked as supports? No she wouldnt. Same thing with funnel. Think about what can be used against it and actually try it. If it was counter-proof, we would see it more often with higher success.
: > [{quoted}](name=Bijeesny,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gabHIz2v,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2020-02-14T13:45:03.852+0000) > > tl;dr > I cannot beat a new strategy, nor i tried to, so i want it to be removed, while using my rank on EUNE to try and make my opinion more valuable. yeah but if that strategy is to overload one champion with gold and exp... buff him and send to fight 1v5 ... it it something we want in this game? in the end lol is meant to be a team game and funneling as a strat is meant to pump one person up to the point where he can win solo... and it is done only because that person actualy wins solo.
> [{quoted}](name=Knight SoIaire ,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gabHIz2v,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2020-02-14T16:22:58.532+0000) > > yeah but if that strategy is to overload one champion with gold and exp... buff him and send to fight 1v5 ... it it something we want in this game? Those who're not scared to face something new will want something like that, aka, new strategies. > in the end lol is meant to be a team game and funneling as a strat is meant to pump one person up to the point where he can win solo... and it is done only because that person actualy wins solo. What? xD So 4 people working together to make one guy strong, while sacrificing their own impact and trusting their teammate to win is not teamwork? That one person who "actually wins solo" would not be able to do that without 4 other players working with him. Pls edit your post and delete part where you said you peaked plat 2 because not even my bronze ass would say dumb shit like this, let alone plat player.
: Funneling
tl;dr I cannot beat a new strategy, nor i tried to, so i want it to be removed, while using my rank on EUNE to try and make my opinion more valuable.
: On Twitter.
> [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GL22GUqr,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2020-02-14T13:04:15.697+0000) > > On Twitter. Which some of us dont use...nice..
Evilfreak (EUW)
: Also I think there are so much more smurfs and boosters with new accounts because of the free runes...If you are talking for advantages.Actually back then people had only 1 account because you needed a ot of time to get ready before to start playing ranked games.Now people join ranked saying I dont care about the win its my smurf and lose your game...Sure there was advantage that if you are playing against people without.
> [{quoted}](name=Evilfreak,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GL22GUqr,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2020-02-14T05:13:09.631+0000) > > Also I think there are so much more smurfs and boosters with new accounts because of the free runes...If you are talking for advantages.Actually back then people had only 1 account because you needed a ot of time to get ready before to start playing ranked games.Now people join ranked saying I dont care about the win its my smurf and lose your game...Sure there was advantage that if you are playing against people without. That and the fact that it made people not having to play extra games past lvl 30. In the past you had to play a lot of games past lvl 30 to be able to buy champs and runes. Sure, you could just buy tier 1 runes, thus spending majority of ip on champs, and go for ranked, but despite runes not being that meaningful, it still put you at a disadvantage, which made you lose a lot more. So be on equal footing, you had to grind a lot of games. And that lead to players having better gameplay experience. Nowadays, because you dont need to buy runes + getting fuckton of BE due to new player rewards, after hitting lvl 30 you were more than ready for ranked. But in return those players are worse than they used to be due to not having a lot of experience. it might just be me, but i noticed that from s8, players were significantly worse than they used to be. RR could be the reason 4 that.
: > [{quoted}](name=Bijeesny,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=5cNRis1A,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2020-02-13T09:01:32.928+0000) > > Would you rather like supports as useless ward bots? > Seeibg how you dont like tank supports nor mage supports you would prolly love top play enchanter that deals no dmg and is completely dependant on his team to carry him. > > But lets ve real, you would prolly run ot down rather than play supps like that hahaha All I'm asking for is that Tanks and Mages dont deal the same amount of damage in respect to botlane. Why play a mage bot if you can play a tank bot and do the same thing LOL.
> [{quoted}](name=RĘVÈÑGE,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=5cNRis1A,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2020-02-14T02:26:03.776+0000) > > All I'm asking for is that Tanks and Mages dont deal the same amount of damage in respect to botlane. Why play a mage bot if you can play a tank bot and do the same thing LOL. As some1 who plays both tank and mage supports (and enchanters), they're not dealing the same damage.
: > [{quoted}](name=Bijeesny,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GL22GUqr,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2020-02-13T16:14:32.595+0000) > > These changes also make people leave because the game is becoming hot mess the more riot is changing the game. > Changes are good, but as long as changes actually improve the game....which riot failed to do. > > Runes reforged didnt solve any issues old runes had except them being free and dumbed down. Which is both a bad thing when you think about it. Runes reforged succeeded in making the choices interesting and meaningful. Old runes, not only were they just giant IP sinks that you had to invest in, but no one individual rune made any noticeable difference. Heck, even with all of them combined you would only notice the difference when you were looking for it. In terms of game design, that's bad. > Positional ranking...failure True, but there were several things that stuck such as Role preference. I don't think anyone wants to go back to the dark ages of pick order determines who gets what they want. Since then Riot has been poking about to try and find something that makes the pre-game experience better. Teambuilder failed as did positional ranking. So they were removed. > New client....buggy af The client has always been buggy. The old client more-so. The old client was built off of an old Adobe Air and Adobe Air functioned off of whatever internet browser was set as the default for the operating system, which for most people would be internet explorer (because they didn't go into the windows settings to change it). The client was basically a glorified internet browser. Any problem that any browser type had would also manifest in the client. It was not a long-term solution in the slightest. > New champs...overloaded cancers This has always been complained about since the start of the game.
> [{quoted}](name=AeroWaffle,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GL22GUqr,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2020-02-13T22:47:05.212+0000) > > Runes reforged succeeded in making the choices interesting and meaningful. Interesting? Maybe. Heathy? Not so much. Runes bbeing meaningful brought more bad than good. Game got powercreeped because of them, and they also defined which champs will be good (cassio and ryze being bonkers thanks to s10 conq) and which champs will be bad (s8 conq was 1 of the reasons tanks were bad in toplane, removal of klepto made ez dogshit champ). > Old runes, not only were they just giant IP sinks that you had to invest in, but no one individual rune made any noticeable difference. Heck, even with all of them combined you would only notice the difference when you were looking for it. Wow imagine that, people had to work and spare ip to get something, Jeez, what a horrible concept. And runes not making noticeable difference was good because you could tailor them to your playstyle. Not like nowadays where in most cases taking any rune setup outside of standard one is just a bad decision example: excludind new conq, when was the last time you saw on assassins any other good rune setup other than electrocute + precision (2nd tree could vary, but at that point its no different than taking more resist of your vs ap and more armor if vs ad))? > True, but there were several things that stuck such as Role preference. I don't think anyone wants to go back to the dark ages of pick order determines who gets what they want. Since then Riot has been poking about to try and find something that makes the pre-game experience better. > > Teambuilder failed as did positional ranking. So they were removed. Oh thanks, another riot's failure to put on the list. Old system wasnt that gr8, but at least it didnt boost people to elos they dont belong because they abused it. > The client has always been buggy. The old client more-so. The old client was built off of an old Adobe Air and Adobe Air functioned off of whatever internet browser was set as the default for the operating system, which for most people would be internet explorer (because they didn't go into the windows settings to change it). The client was basically a glorified internet browser. > > Any problem that any browser type had would also manifest in the client. It was not a long-term solution in the slightest. My memory might not be that good, but I dont remember: - client deleting my custom runes - client not allowing me to create new runes - client not allowing me to pick champs because I cant see them in champ select - client not connecting me to team chat - missing textures in client (half of the client is just a black square) - client being slow af (which due to recent crashes i was getting made me missing 4+ mins of the game) - client clogging up my CPU - not being able to see friends list - getting messages my friends sent me couple of days ago which i didnt recieve back then All of these things i mentioned above happened to me, or are still happening since season 8. NOT A SINGLE THING from this list happened to me in the old client. (to be fair, I started playing in season 3, so idk if client had issues before then) > This has always been complained about since the start of the game. When I started playing, the newest champ was Zac, lucian, jinx,etc. Look at those champ's kits, and then look at Aphelios, Senna, Quyiana... now tell me which champs are more overloaded?
: Holding Pre-Game Lobbies Hostage, Why it's ridiculous, How it's against the ToS, & What can be done
I like how you wrote an essay saying how people trolling because A TEAMMATE BANNED THEIR CHAMP is bad, while you said nothing about the players banning teammates picks. Thats imo just as bad.
: So...you hate the new changes. Could have just said that instead of the clickbait-y title. >The biggest jokes from reworks now zed jungle....Do you asked the community for opinions ? Quite literally, yes. They *literally* asked what other champions people wanted to be junglers. They're trying to increase diversity in the jungle (a specific request I've seen before) and add popularity to the role (again, another request) by adding new champions to it. They're not forcing them into the role and it's not going to be any of their main roles, it's just a side thing they're trying to promote and they'll kill it if they don't like it. >I wish I can play Season 2-3 again where everything was simple. Things were simple back then because people were incompetent. High elo then was worse than low Gold is now, and many *base-level* mechanics you're *expected* to know now were considered esoteric, incredibly high skill things.
> [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GL22GUqr,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2020-02-13T15:45:08.160+0000) > > Quite literally, yes. They *literally* asked what other champions people wanted to be junglers. Where did they ask that?
: Frankly, that League of Legends has lasted as long as it has is already a pretty damn big accomplishment (just like with WoW). The interest of gamers is quick to lose and the popular genre is ever changing. League continues to stay ahead of their direct competitors such as Dota 2. League has also managed to weather the battle royal craze pretty well considering how old it already was when battleroyal hit mainstream. League **MUST** keep changing and adding more content to the game otherwise people will leave. A game that stagnates is a game that loses many of their active players whom play because they want to try out the new things.
> [{quoted}](name=AeroWaffle,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GL22GUqr,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2020-02-13T15:42:22.182+0000) > > League **MUST** keep changing and adding more content to the game otherwise people will leave. A game that stagnates is a game that loses many of their active players whom play because they want to try out the new things. These changes also make people leave because the game is becoming hot mess the more riot is changing the game. Changes are good, but as long as changes actually improve the game....which riot failed to do. Runes reforged didnt solve any issues old runes had except them being free and dumbed down. Which is both a bad thing when you think about it. Positional ranking...failure New client....buggy af New champs...overloaded cancers And there is prolly more....
: I love how these posts get dislikes for giving away the playbook
> [{quoted}](name=Mavëríck,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=RJTz67FE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2020-02-12T18:28:12.851+0000) > > I love how these posts get dislikes for giving away the playbook Some people just read the title and dislike....I think the title might be better, but I didnt know how to name it at the time :/
Uvec (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=RJTz67FE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2020-02-12T14:49:50.337+0000) > > It's a *very* slight benefit to the red team since they're *very* slightly less likely to win. It's not going to cause horrible imbalances, or anything really noticeable. The logic behind this is the fact that blue side gets to pick and ban first, so they have more priority over the whole draft, and also drake is on their favorable side. But that doesn't really matter in low elo games since players there are always prone to making unbelievable amount of mistakes.
> [{quoted}](name=Uvec,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=RJTz67FE,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2020-02-12T15:39:16.390+0000) > > But that doesn't really matter in low elo games since players there are always prone to making unbelievable amount of mistakes. Maybe, but it's still interesting thing to know, at least for me. And as i said, maybe thats why matchmaking is "unbalanced" as people think.
: Botlane is support vs support nowadays.
Would you rather like supports as useless ward bots? Seeibg how you dont like tank supports nor mage supports you would prolly love top play enchanter that deals no dmg and is completely dependant on his team to carry him. But lets ve real, you would prolly run ot down rather than play supps like that hahaha
: Adjust your gameplay and stop playing her like you used to {{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}}
> [{quoted}](name=Three One Four,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RaiRZc93,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2020-02-13T04:04:48.327+0000) > > Adjust your gameplay and stop playing her like you used to > {{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}} Could say the same for top laners complaining about her, among other things. Rly hypocritical.
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