Slade25 (NA)
: um. He can't steal his teammates ults tho? That can only happen if a Karthus is on the other team, or you're playing blind with two sylas' and a Karthus. It is impossible in a draft or ranked game for a double Karthus ult.
I meant the scaling and 0 mana cost ult with a 7 second cd.
: AD: {{item:3153}} {{item:3147}} {{item:3814}} {{item:3508}} {{item:3155}} {{item:3031}} {{item:3094}} {{item:3074}} {{item:3813}} {{item:3231}} {{item:3053}} {{item:3095}} {{item:3071}} {{item:3072}} {{item:3078}} {{item:3142}} {{item:3036}} {{item:3033}} {{item:3006}} {{item:3111}} {{item:3047}} {{item:3026}} AP: {{item:3285}} {{item:3165}} {{item:3089}} {{item:3135}} {{item:3157}} {{item:3020}}
{{item:3003}} {{item:3102}} {{item:3151}} {{item:3100}} {{item:3285}} {{item:3152}} {{item:3146}} {{item:3030}} {{item:3165}} {{item:3115}} {{item:3041}} {{item:3089}} {{item:2065}} {{item:3116}} {{item:3135}} {{item:3173}} {{item:3040}} you dropped a few here
Infernape (EUW)
: Congrats so can you.
Wake up call, not all of us play mages all the time or have the extra 600G lying around to spend on an item that we'll use once and can't build it into anything. And if you suggest me guardian angel as a 2nd or 3rd item , you should probably stop replying and log off.
: > [{quoted}](name=Call Me Ålex,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=apHIQrsz,comment-id=00020000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-06T23:02:07.795+0000) > > It's just sickening that the Riot from season 3 turned into "please the casual average pleb to buy our skins and simplify champions" tbh we should just be glad that Riot isn't pulling a Blizzard and making a mobile League game lmao.
They should pull a Telltale , they kinda deserve it at this point.
: Ever even tried it? It doesn't just give a magic shield. It also gives initial Magic damage reduction, AD, and the build up for it (Since we're comparing completed items.... *cough) has 10% CDR, gives 20 more AD at low life, and Spell Vamp and Life steal to keep you alive. Try it sometime. I've face tanked a Brand on Jinx with it. He tickles me. I obliterate him. @ Void staff; AD gets BASE AD, and MUCH higher AD scaling on skills than AP skills. You're actually trying to compare the two? There's a reason AD per champ is about 350-500, and AP is 500-1000; AP was designed to be a bought stat, while AD is designed to be a skill/auto attack based stat. You really whine a lot. Learn to counterbuild instead.
Counterbuild ? good luck with that when 70% of the store is made for ap champions
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: > [{quoted}](name=Call Me Ålex,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=apHIQrsz,comment-id=000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-06T22:47:54.042+0000) > > It's true. AD assassins are getting crapped on with each patch. Meanwhile champions like Akali , Irelia Sylas , Aatrox are allowed to be broken FOR MONTHS and riot just sitting on their ass doing nothing. It's because most of the playerbase are like Silver or below, so no matter how stupid they are, Riot still has to pander to them with their balancing. Otherwise they lose out on the $$$, because those players can't be bothered to actually learn the game and ragequit.
It's just sickening that the Riot from season 3 turned into "please the casual average pleb to buy our skins and simplify champions"
: {{item:3155}} costs 1300 gold while {{item:3157}} costs 2900 gold and armor is an ineffective stat.
Ineffective? clearly you haven't went past platinum 4. And you get the zhonyas effect FOR FREE FROM RUNES?? or a mere 600 gold which is absurd
: {{item:3155}} AD champions are {{item:3155}} about 5 times more picked/banned {{item:3155}} than AP champions but {{item:3155}} you think AP items and {{item:3155}} champions are OP? {{item:3155}} {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}} {{item:3155}}
I ged a small 280 hp magic damage shield , you get an item that gives you Armor , cdr , ability power AND INVULNERABILITY for 2.5 sec. What are we comparing here?
: > [{quoted}](name=Call Me Ålex,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=apHIQrsz,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-06T22:40:09.541+0000) > > Yet later on they are way more useful than you , not because they are good , but because their class is favored. tbh I can live with mages outscaling us assassins. However, all the most recent patches have been erasing our early game advantage too. Multiple Domination page nerfs, nerfs to individual assassins, flat armor in runes...the list keeps going, and it doesn't fucking stop, lol.
It's true. AD assassins are getting crapped on with each patch. Meanwhile champions like Akali , Irelia Sylas , Aatrox are allowed to be broken FOR MONTHS and riot just sitting on their ass doing nothing.
fire263 (NA)
: Like the idea of doing more damage for hitting more Q's, but no to the true damage one. He is not intended to kill tanks, and should not be able to kill tanks, as this will just make zed pretty much good against everyone, and will just make him pick or ban pretty much. There are some changes/buffs that I would like to see for Zed though to hopefully make him good, but not too broken in low elo. (Just a list of ideas, not suggesting add all of these lol) - Let Zed choose which way he appears out of his ult (hovering your mouse over which direction you want him to appear) - Buff Zeds energy refund for hitting more Q's, make him run out if he's missing but allow him to stay in fights if he's hitting his Q's, as I find energy to be a pretty big problem on him. - Give his ult a mutilator effect on his target (The one Aatrox passive gives, reduces shielding and healing by 45% on the target) - Revert ult cooldown buff, but decrease the cooldown on W. - Give his ult an effect that reduces target armor by a flat amount for the 3 seconds before the death mark pops. Just throwing some ideas around, I don't think he needs much damage increase as currently it's fine, he just needs some utility to make him a bit more viable. He also should not get any %armor reduction as that kind of just invalidates tanks, but rather get flat armor reduction to destroy squishies like he was designed too.
I agree , maybe the true damage was a bit too much. But for example targets marked with his ult CANNOT be shielded and have reduced healing? sounds fair-er to me.
: > [{quoted}](name=Call Me Ålex,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=apHIQrsz,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-06T22:29:21.731+0000) > > Is that so ? why are champions like Maokai , Sejuani , Malphite , Orn, Sion ,Shen Cho'gath , etc. Able to absolutely destroy squishy champions 1v1 completely onesided? they literally walk up to you and eventually kill you , with you having nothing to do to stop them? I've seen 0/7 sion destroy a 5/1 riven by simply being next to her and hitting her with autos and grasp? _Squishy_ Because assassins don't belong at top. And once again, assassins aren't supposed to be able to take down tanks. Sion has higher than normal damage because his Q needs to be charged for its hard cc. (and stating that anecdotal evidence with no actual proof doesn't really do much for you)
Who said anything about assassins top? I'm talking every champion that doesn't build HP usually. Sion charging his Q ? are u kidding me ? did u even read? HE WINS BY SIMPLY BEING NEAR U. EVEN IF HE DIES HE'S REWARDED FOR DYING AND GETS A BROKEN PASSIVE THA DOES INHUMAN AMOUNTS OF DAMAGE?!?! how is that fair or skillful? explain to me? Tanks are DESIGNED for people that suck at the game, no matter how BAD you are , you will always be more useful than some stupid AD assassin that will fall off in an armor item or two. And I'm talking about all the tanks I listed don't push your Sion bs as an excuse
: > [{quoted}](name=Call Me Ålex,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=apHIQrsz,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-06T22:29:21.731+0000) > > Is that so ? why are champions like Maokai , Sejuani , Malphite , Orn, Sion ,Shen Cho'gath , etc. Able to absolutely destroy squishy champions 1v1 completely onesided? they literally walk up to you and eventually kill you , with you having nothing to do to stop them? I've seen 0/7 sion destroy a 5/1 riven by simply being next to her and hitting her with autos and grasp? _Squishy_ Because assassins don't belong at top. And once again, assassins aren't supposed to be able to take down tanks. Sion has higher than normal damage because his Q needs to be charged for its hard cc. (and stating that anecdotal evidence with no actual proof doesn't really do much for you)
Who said anything about assassins top? I'm talking every champion that doesn't build HP usually. Sion charging his Q ? are u kidding me ? did u even read? HE WINS BY SIMPLY BEING NEAR U. EVEN IF HE DIES HE'S REWARDED FOR DYING AND GETS A BROKEN PASSIVE THA DOES INHUMAN AMOUNTS OF DAMAGE?!?! how is that fair or skillful? explain to me? Tanks are DESIGNED for people that suck at the game, no matter how BAD you are , you will always be more useful than some stupid AD assassin that will fall off in an armor item or two.
: > [{quoted}](name=Call Me Ålex,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=apHIQrsz,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-02-06T22:31:22.819+0000) > > Exactly. None of them have been in a high elo game where people know what they're doing , absolutely making zed USELESS, not by outplaying or anything , but by simply spending a tiny bit of gold to buy armor and poof zed is not in the game anymore. I just finished getting to gold on this new account, and I can confirm that barely anyone even builds a Seekers against my Talon. And these people who rush a full Ludens into me usually have already died twice to me by level 6. These are the very same people who are complaining about damage and calling for assassin nerfs.
Yet later on they are way more useful than you , not because they are good , but because their class is favored.
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: Don't try to reason with these people. LL Stylish has been saying that Zed is garbage for the longest time, but the silvers on these Boards apparently know balancing and the state of Zed better than LL.
Exactly. None of them have been in a high elo game where people know what they're doing , absolutely making zed USELESS, not by outplaying or anything , but by simply spending a tiny bit of gold to buy armor and poof zed is not in the game anymore.
: > [{quoted}](name=Call Me Ålex,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=apHIQrsz,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-06T22:13:49.094+0000) > > Tanks are allowed to int and still be more viable than an assassin, they aren't punished for anything. Lethality is bad especially if you're behind a level or two. Meanwhile mages get flat penetration regardless of anything. Even from F-in boots. That's just outright false. Tanks need to be able to perform their function even from behind because their extremely weak dueling and farming is pretty much guaranteed to put them behind.
Is that so ? why are champions like Maokai , Sejuani , Malphite , Orn, Sion ,Shen Cho'gath , etc. Able to absolutely destroy squishy champions 1v1 completely onesided? they literally walk up to you and eventually kill you , with you having nothing to do to stop them? I've seen 0/7 sion destroy a 5/1 riven by simply being next to her and hitting her with autos and grasp?
: > [{quoted}](name=Call Me Ålex,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=apHIQrsz,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-02-06T22:02:30.239+0000) > > I'm talking about more damage depending on the Q's and added True dmg to deal with the armor problem. Deal little damage if missing, but deal insane damage if hitting all 3 for example. Armor... "problem"? There isn't an armor problem. Lethality takes care of that. And you aren't _supposed_ to be able to assassinate someone with armor. It already does do insane damage. You're just asking that he get a strength he's not supposed to have. You pick an assassin knowing you won't be the one taking down tanks.
Tanks are allowed to int and still be more viable than an assassin, they aren't punished for anything. Lethality is bad especially if you're behind a level or two. Meanwhile mages get flat penetration regardless of anything. Even from F-in boots.
: So you want him to delete tanks even harder? Mkay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ca9xt5Naxk - is this what you call deleting tanks ? she was 0/2 i was 3/1 with youmuu and dusk all she had was hp jungle item and tabis?
: Except... it already works that way. Missing means you do less damage.
I'm talking about more damage depending on the Q's and added True dmg to deal with the armor problem. Deal little damage if missing, but deal insane damage if hitting all 3 for example.
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