: > [{quoted}](name=Ph03n1xb1rd,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=U7168oIc,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2019-12-05T16:42:47.011+0000) > > Please go and beat 1v5 intermediate bots with AP Zed ;) > > PS.: And don't forget to show us the replay Ok. And if you seriously think that bots are good practice do not play ranked.
I'll be waiting :) When you pick up a champion for the first time, playing at least one bot game is really helpful to get familiar with ability ranges, damage output etc... Is it enough to play ranked? NO. Should you play at least one before ruining the game for your team? Absolutely yes.
: > [{quoted}](name=Ph03n1xb1rd,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=U7168oIc,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-05T10:37:12.389+0000) > > You must have a very sad life if this is the "BEST feeling ever". I feel sorry for you. > > BTW practice vs bots. You can literally go first time zed in coop, have 4 bots on your team, and go ap zed and still 1v9 carry. You can’t practice anything important im bots.
Please go and beat 1v5 intermediate bots with AP Zed ;) PS.: And don't forget to show us the replay!
bkgory (NA)
: Dear Riot, you need to be stopped...now.
Why would you write "please leave me alone"? When you can just mute the person?
: >When he Qed, was an absolute trash play, i guess he thought he can get a kill on Kata. Considering the Jhin W was already aimed at her. Trading himself for Kata would have been a great move. There was absolutely no way for him to kill kata with the items he has and looking at the situation. No chance at all. It was int. >He tried to poke Naut, dodged the Q, just to get ulted. I mean yeah, he could have been stayed back, but there was no way to get away from that ult. They would have died below tower either. (Not saying it was a good move, but want obvious inting either.) Yeah this one probably wasn't intentional but it's chronologically the first clip so it could have all started from there. >The jungle death was bad, but maybe he did not have vision on MF, i didnt check the replay, just your stuff. This one was 100% int. Naut and MF had just cleared bot wave and then walked into the jungle. He also just ran into overfed nautilus who could 1v1 him and didn't even attempt to use q to run away but jumped towards mf. >The dancing taunt was absolutely great 2v3 bait. (Which turned out to be bad, but i do the same as Vlad in a lot of games. What great bait? There was absolutely nothing great about it. Firstly, he was stealing xp and gold from his bot laners for no reason, burned his own flash because of getting caught while dancing and allies not being in a position to help (thus a terrible bait but it wasn't even a bait, it was just pure trolling) and after he got away, he went back in and died. There is no way that was anything else but trolling. Vlad can bait because he has pool to avoid damage and abilities but this is completely different and the situation was terrible for baiting overall. He wasn't baiting, he was soft inting.
Oh, i just realized the level difference and his "build" now. You are absolutely right. With those items he really had no way to kill any of them.
Hotarµ (NA)
: At first I was pretty skeptical, the games didn't look _too_ bad, but I did some more digging and I'm leaning towards this ban being warranted. Let me explain. ________ ##First and foremost: You never buy mobis on Kindred. Doesn't seem like that big a deal on the surface, but here is why it's important: The only other time you've done this was [**in this game right here**](https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/3201824740/246169660?tab=overview), which I assume was the first time you got punished for intentionally feeding. That game was played on 11/10/19, the next game you played was on 11/24/19. A 14 day gap inbetween these games, I don't think it's a coincidence that the first punishment for intentionally feeding is a 14-day suspension. I just think that's very important to note. Buying mobis does not automatically mean someone is intentionally feeding, but when you're punished two times in a row and the first one also had them built, it makes me skeptical and maybe you built them for a reason. In almost every one of your games you go tabi and it's **VERY** interesting to me that in a game with a fed Katarina, a fed Miss Fortune, a fed Nidalee, and a strong Riven/Nautilus, defensive boots didn't cross your mind. ______________ ##Secondly: here's the video evidence of the Kindred game _**(I will edit this comment when I finish the Volibear game)**_ if anyone else wants to follow along and see what I saw. https://streamable.com/4tlaq [_(Here's the direct link if you want to fullscreen it.)_](https://streamable.com/j68wk) Now, in order of the shown clips: - **Q'ed into entire enemy team** - Yeah, I think this one is pretty bad. You walked up, underleveled, Q'ed into the entire enemy team, and then died instantly. This was towards the end of the game, so you should have been playing much more defensively and/or, at the very least, not jumping directly into the entire team. - **Walked directly into a fed Nautilus + MF** - Honestly, at first glance this looked like an honest mistake. Maybe you didn't realize they were strong, but either way it seemed a bit fishy and I began to rethink it for various reasons. More on that below. - **Walked directly into a fed Nautilus + MF X2** - This is what made me rethink the above point. The area was warded, your team was not around you, you just walked directly into Nautilus and Miss Fortune again. **(EDIT: And while there's no sound in this video, throughout the majority of this game I can hear your team pinging you to back off.) ** - **Walked directly into a fed Nautilus + MF, danced, then walked back in and died.**- Same as the first point, this one is really bad. You walked up into lane, danced, got caught in a combo, flashed out, then kind of half-walked into the enemy team. Something that _everyone_ should be taking into consideration: OP is Plat+ and [**is a 673k mastery point Kindred main. **](https://championmasterylookup.derpthemeus.com/summoner?summoner=AZUL+1v9&region=NA) These just don't look right to me knowing all of that, even if I were to give you the benefit of the doubt and say you weren't intentionally feeding, you clearly weren't trying here. It shows. __________ #Update: Volibear game reviewed [](https://.) Nothing too bad in this game. Sifted through once on 8x speed, another time on 4x speed. Looked at all the death and teamfight bookmarks, nothing out of the ordinary. The only thing that happened was OP left at 31 minutes after a teamfight death, the game ended at 33 minutes. Honestly, that's a mistake anyone could make (thinking the game is over and preemptively leaving) and while it's not ideal, it usually doesn't get flagged as griefing. _Maybe_ it was included because OP was punished for it previously in that above Kindred game, but I'm leaning towards it just being a mistake. Either way; yeah, OP's first game was super suspicious and given that they have a history of intentionally feeding, I personally am very skeptical. I encourage you to research and decide for yourselves, however. Please just stay on topic and keep your comments civil. Have a great day y'all.
1. When he Qed, was an absolute trash play, i guess he thought he can get a kill on Kata. Considering the Jhin W was already aimed at her. Trading himself for Kata would have been a great move. 2. He tried to poke Naut, dodged the Q, just to get ulted. I mean yeah, he could have been stayed back, but there was no way to get away from that ult. They would have died below tower either. (Not saying it was a good move, but want obvious inting either.) 3. The jungle death was bad, but maybe he did not have vision on MF, i didnt check the replay, just your stuff. 4. The dancing taunt was absolutely great 2v3 bait. (Which turned out to be bad, but i do the same as Vlad in a lot of games. Did he use his ult? Like ever? Or was his ult up in any of these cases?
AZUL 1V9 (NA)
: mistakenly Banned
This gets banned, but manaregen Kha is all good xD Good job Rito. Did you submit a ticket? What was the response?
: Never trust a friend
> How do I go about getting this fixed? Unfortunately, make a new acc, and don't share the login info with anyone. (Oh ofc, and forget about the old one.) EDIT: I just added Unfortunately since all the special guys here did that :D
Quáx (NA)
: "Its just a norm" does not excuse feeding a verbally harassing teammates.
But all these players just had a bad game at the given moment ;)
: Riven
Yes, she will surely get chat restricted for this single game. You can be happy and sleep well from now on!
Qvxm (EUW)
: i think the ban was unjustified since it is lvl 12 normals game where half of his team was also trolling even if it was normals where everyone was trying their hardest and he trolling it doesn't affect their lives more then 15-30 minutes of wasted time and for that he got a 14 day suspension and his honor level was made locked 0
Well, for me my 15 minutes of life is worth much more than his account and honor level. If he decides to fck me over, he deserves to be punished.
TrulyBland (EUNE)
: There's one particular player that gets around 20 downvotes on every single post within a minute of the post. And it's absolutely true that these kind of threads tend to not get that many upvotes, let alone in such a short time. There's *definitely* somebody screwing with the votes at the moment, and pretending otherwise is just silly. It's not even of any relevance, because as you said yourself, that doesn't remove it from the front page. So I wonder what kind of ulterior motive you think intentionally restricting votes would help accomplish. Small sidenote: You show to me as "level 0", so there's definitely something wrong with your account specifically. So unless you somehow feel important enough to be silenced specifically there's really no grounds for a conspiracy theory there. Edit: rujitra is the player I mentioned, and is, as you can see, comfortably sitting at 18 downvotes despite even helping you with your forum problem. Feel free to tell me that's normal.
Have you ever considered that it might be because he talks absolute bullshit in 90% of his posts? :D (The guy cant even read dates normally, but would argue with you how a liar you are, because you didn't play games on the given date (what he could not understand)) PS.: I would also downvote him, i just cant since im not lvl 30 yet.
Pyrosan (NA)
: the moderators dont represent riot they're a community volunteer team
Of course, Rito never had any voice in choosing moderators. They just popped up out of nowhere.
Kei143 (NA)
: Ya, the lvl 7 is a known boards bug for a long time now. Just sync your account and you should be able to post normally. There was upvote manipulation. 28 upvotes in 17 minutes is not normal for PB boards, and even less normal for that topic of "Riot doesn't punish trolls, but I get punished for responding". Infact, you can see the manipulation here where rujitra and only him has been constantly getting 20ish downvotes shortly after he posts. It only happens to him, not to others.
> Infact, you can see the manipulation here where rujitra and only him has been constantly getting 20ish downvotes shortly after he posts. It only happens to him, not to others. Have you ever considered that it might be because he talks absolute bullshit in 90% of his posts? :D (The guy cant even read dates normally, but would argue with you how a liar you are, because you didn't play games on the given date (what he could not understand))
plz ff (NA)
: Riot's Moderation on Post Regarding League's Toxicity
The censor gods will bash every topic to hell which tries to mention that the punishment system for gameplay offenses is shit. Even when you post about a troll (removing the names) who goes full manaregen Kha in 3 (non consecutive) games and does not get banned, they take down that post too.
: Because riot uses an automatic bot that tries to find hate speech and the person used the letter l insead of I which isnt detected by bots because it isnt the actual word. Bots are pretty bad tbh, they are only good up until people dont spell words properly.
Which letter in "f" "a" "g" was replaced by "l"? I mean, on my screen it clearly spells "f" "a" "g" O.o
: > [{quoted}](name=Du Ma Mi,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=mVE0Kb3d,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-12-02T15:48:58.805+0000)* If you get a removal/ban that you don't agree with, feel free to [politely] request some info about your situation. * If a mod explains a removal, or a ban, and you still don't agree with it, feel free to talk to them [politely]. * If they tell you that you're SOL [outta luck, for those unfamiliar with the acronym], then you're SOL. They're the mods, they make the final calls - let bygones be bygones and move on. This is *mostly* accurate, but I'd like to add one further step: *You are always welcome to send in a ticket to Riot Player Support, which will get to our main Riot contact.* This doesn't normally change things (we wouldn't still be moderators unless our actions and decisions fell reliably along the lines Riot desires in moderation), but the option does exist.
Well, Rito must have a very low bar for being a moderator when people who don't know the difference between an "a" and "i" are allowed. Also there is literally no point in talking to them, nor submitting tickets, since they read whatever they want, they understand things the way they feel like. All what matters is to agree with Rito policies (also that's why submitting a ticket would do probably nothing). Ps.: This response is not for you. Since you clearly would just intentionally misunderstand it, just wrote it to save some time for the people trying to argue with the censor gods.
Solence (NA)
: Yet i don't see this being banned on twitch's platform which you would think would also share riots policy's with this "problem"
Why would Twitch share Rito's policy?
SCP 106 (NA)
: I got a 25 day chat restriction
How is this post upvoted? PB Boards usually bash everything like this to hell with downvotes... (Not like it matters, just interesting.)
: Wrongfully banned for parody on toxic behavior; please appeal
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes ;) PS.: This to happen, somebody has to report you. So there was at least 1 player who did not enjoy your trolling around.
: I'm glad I don't live in the EU. Getting arrested for childish behavior must be awful. {{sticker:sg-zephyr}}
I live in the EU, and i do not see many people being arrested for childish behaviour :D (I have only heard about some strange things from the UK, but they are leaving(?) soon(?) anyway(?). )
: to report sb. to the police.
It's pretty easy. You just break into the RIto servers, look up the IP (and timestamp) of his logins. Then you hack into his ISP's database, and look up the address. Or if he has a credit card connected to his account, you just have to hack into the bank's database. Easy peasy! Jokes aside, they wont give YOU personally the information. If you call the police and explain your situation (be careful to wait until they finish laughing because if you talk while they are rolling on the floor, they would lose valuable information). Then the police can request information from Rito (and probably they would have to give the info to the police, i'm not sure). Otherwise you as just a random person have no right to request this information from Rito. Ps.: What did you get this upset? Did you fall for a "Joe joke"? xD
: Why are players allowed to ruin matches?
bEcAuSe iT'S ToO HaRd tO DeTeCt tHeSe tHiNgS. yOu cAn nOt pUnIsH BaD PlAyErS FoR PlAyInG BaD.
: High Elo players are the worst kind of teammates
> High Elo players are the worst kind of teammates Guess you never had an inter then.
Wickedlike (EUNE)
: More deaths then the minutes passed in a game needs to lead to an automated punishment.
But what if they just had a bad game? You can not know the intention... PS.: I see you are only playing aram, and you had a game with rammus, where you died 16 times in 16:01. Do you think if the game lasted 2 seconds less you would have to be punished?
: Because saying it makes you overtly scared of it.
Oh fck, you are right. I'm terrified right now :O
rujitra (NA)
: Yes, homophobia also merits a suspension for one occurrence.
How is the word "gay" homophobic? O.o
KRÅTØS (NA)
: also the 14 suspensen is over one game when I log in it shows one game that I was reported for I thinks its a bit unfair to get a ban over game maybe like leaver buster
Yeah, i also think this is unfair. Inting should be instant permaban. You just ruined the game for others, there is no excuse to do this.
: Dude, I'm a D2 support main trying to learn a new role when i'm autofilled. Not going to flame or report bronze players for playing badly. P.S : You're the type of guy that should consider playing another game if you play to get people banned because they inted.
I honestly don't care about your main's rank. I just told you to post your chatlogs, so we can really talk about things. It's strange that you get reported in 19 games out of 20, when you do not do anything bad. So the chatlogs would be interesting to see what the BOT considers toxic. (It will usually pick 3 matches in which you are considered toxic) Still submitting a ticket is your best chance. I play because i like to play the game, but hate all the inters... Ps.: Just saw your posted logs, if that is really the full log, the support is going to lift your ban almost surely. (Maybe replace with a chat restriction, because why not...)
Lost R (NA)
: ***
Yes, because i'm supposed to know what happened to a random person's LoL account on the other side of the world.... Most of the players do not read Boards, how the fck would they even know how it works?
: Got autobanned for 14 days after explaining the meaning of kys
1. Post your chatlog here, maybe you did something else. Also, if you were reported 19 times, that means it must have been more than 1 game, so probably you have more than 1 game in your reform card. I highly doubt you explained kys in multiple games. 2. If this is what really happened, you can try submit a support ticket and pray for a support with actual brain, in this case then ban should be lifted. 3. DO NOT USE THE CHAT AT ALL, OR YOU RISK GETTIN' BANNED. Ps.: I report everyone who plays bad for toxic chat (too), since that's more likely he will get banned. Maybe you just had bad games.
: ok i will end toxicity. gl!
Hah, i just did it, kiddo...
: People lie. He gave him the password.
18years in cyber security also gives you the ability to read minds over the internet. Not bad ;)
: Riot, enough with the afks
People who say that in average the enemy will have more AFKs than you (assuming you do not afk), so afkers positively impact your winrate. Which is absolutely true, on the other hand it takes the fun out of the game.... So overall you win LP because of AFKers. It just ruins the fun.
: Your accounts security is your own job. "Someone else did it" is non a applicable excuse.
They still unban a lot of people who were banned for 3rd party apps when their account was stolen. So actually this is a good excuse.
zPOOPz (NA)
: just out of curiosity, what are the 5 buttons?
Press tab, and then you have to *click* the rest 4 of your teammates. My bad, i counted clicking on a specific position on the screen as pressing a "button". Just to save myself, things you press on the screen are sometimes also called buttons, not only keyboard ones :D
Reverse (EUW)
: pls ban this person for what he said to me
> its exhausting muting people How is it exhausting to press like 5 buttons? How are you playing the game where you have to press waaay more buttons?
: Is it just me, or is the community full of super insecure people who need to insult their teammates and spew negativity in a video game for 45 minutes?
How is it being insecure that you do not want somebody to intentionally ruin your game? Please elaborate, since i have literally no idea what you mean by this....
: Oh someone's inting in my game
i think the 3rd one is the most effective, or at least as effective as the other 2. So go with that for the lulz!
purplum (EUNE)
: Has anyone read the tips on how not to get baned on support page?
They should have just gone with "Do not play the game!".
galsan (EUW)
: Smurfs at end season
You should learn from these games how to play against a 10/0 Ekkor, tho.
Sukishoo (NA)
: >there needs to be an ip ban sent to these players. IP bans do nothing. There are many easy ways around them. If it was indeed a botted account it will be banned soon enough and that's all there is to that.
> If it was indeed a botted account it will be banned soon enough and that's all there is to that. If it was really a botted account, and he managed to ruin a ranked game with that, then i think it's already too late....
: Why can people make multiple accounts?
And do you want to ban dormitories internet cafes, random people (because of dynamic address) and so on? Sounds like a bad idea to me.
: How Leaving One game Destroyed my week
You most likely do not get punished for leaving ONE game. And yeah, do not leave games. If your mother does not understand how online games work, go play something else.
c133dude (NA)
: You can get ANYONE a punishment for no reason
If i register an account on NA, could you get me banned with your friends? Do you want to test it?
: Hacked account
Write a ticket: http://support.riotgames.com/
: you forget about places like campuses and internet cafes sharing the same ip
And what has it anything to do with what i just said? (btw i did not forget them)
TrulyBland (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Ph03n1xb1rd,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=qQlKTBlR,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-12T13:44:43.522+0000) > > Okay, guess you really want to stick to this. > > Do you enter traffic […] > > When you start playing LoL[…] > > Flamers in LoL are the same thing as people giving you a finger in traffic[…] > >So just to summarize: >Traffic: >[…] > >LoL: >[…] There's really no point in continuing this discussion as long as you continue misunderstanding my analogy. Especially since this has to be intentional, since I've told you explicitly what "traffic" was in my analogy, and just as explicitly what it's not.
What are you even talkin' about? Let me quote you: > There are reasons to enter traffic. Traffic is not inherently bad. People make traffic bad through their choices. People who get into car accidents caused by others are not to blame, just because they participated in traffic. And go through this one by one: - There are reasons to enter traffic: Yes, to get from A to B, as i said in my comment. - People make traffic bad through their choices: Yes, as i said: "There are assholes assing around" - People who get into car accidents caused by others are not to blame, just because they participated in traffic: I did not explicitly said this, but i totally agree with this, since those people had to enter traffic to reach their goal. You wrote almost the same thing as me, i really do not understand what do you think i'm misunderstanding. And for the LoL part: - There are reasons to have chat enabled: TBH not too much, especially for 90% of LoL players, but yeah, sometimes shotcalling can be helpful. - People make chat bad through their choices: Yes, as i said: "There are assholes assing around" - People who get flamed due to the choice of somebody else are not to blame, just because they participated in chat: And here it is a bit different. If the given person is an Inter, then he caused it for himself, and he is to blame. If he is not an inter and he is flamed, then of course, they are not to blame. If the given person fails to help himself and do not mute them flamer, then he is to blame. You can not be blamed for things what you have no control over. But you have control over the flamer (aka mute button) and you are to blame if you do not use it. I'm not saying flamers are good, what i'm saying is that people who do not mute flamers and complain about them are equally r%%%%%ed.
TrulyBland (EUNE)
: > I did not ask him to stop playing LoL (not entering traffic in your analogy) No, that's not what entering traffic was in my analogy, and I reckon you know it. But let me spell it out for you: There are reasons to have chat enabled. Chat is not inherently bad. **People** make chat bad through their choices. People who get flamed due to the choice of somebody else are not to blame, just because they participated in chat. There are reasons to enter traffic. Traffic is not inherently bad. **People** make traffic bad through their choices. People who get into car accidents caused by others are not to blame, just because they participated in traffic. If you want to discuss my analogy, I'm more than happy to do so. But please cut out the irrelevant red herrings and strawmen arguments. >I do not want him to sacrifice anything of his fun And yet you are asking him to do exactly that. You might not understand this, but a lot of people actually find chat (minus the flamers) to be a fun part of LoL and multiplayer games in general.
Okay, guess you really want to stick to this. Do you enter traffic TO BE IN TRAFFIC or do you enter traffic to get from A to B? Accidents, traffic jams, people honking at you and giving you the finger are things that happen in traffic and are bad, but you can not do shit about it, because you still want to get from A to B. When you start playing LoL, i assume you do it, because you want to play LoL, correct me if im wrong. (So already here your analogy is bad, since the goal of playing LoL is to play LoL. The goal of entering traffic is not to be in traffic. If i could just teleport from A to B i would never enter traffic in my life. If i could play LoL without playing LOL, oh w8.... this is different here.) Flamers in LoL are the same thing as people giving you a finger in traffic, but do you have a button to make all those fingers disappear? No, you dont (or if you have, go patent it fast and stop arguing on a forum). So just to summarize: Traffic: - You have to enter it, if you want to reach your goal in location B - There are assholes assing around, and you have no button to ignore them - These asshats force themselves on you because you have no way to ignore them, and to stop seeing them, you would have to sacrifice your goal (getting from A to B) LoL: - You enter it, because you want to enter it, you want to play LoL, the goal of playing LoL is playing LoL - There are assholes assing around, and you have a button to ignore them - These asshats can not force themselves on you, because you sacrifice nothing by ignoring them, and you can still reach your goal (play LoL) Of course my whole reasoning is based on the assumptions: - You enter trafficto get from A to B - You play LoL to play LoL
: except riot doesn't bother with ip tracking since it's so easy to change it some routers change it automatically on the regular
I would be totally surprised if they did not log IP addresses at all. > some routers change it automatically on the regular Okay, so what? Try the https://www.where-am-i.co/my-ip-location site, and reset your router 100 times (usually dynamic IP addresses are handed out, when the router connects to the service, so turning off your router for some minutes and then turning on can result in a different IP address), check how many times does it give different country. It might be possible it gets your country wrong but, very very rare. Or at least according to my tests from 4 countries.
: 1. Silver 1 12 LP is not even remotely in the vecinity of 5 games away from gold even if they are all wins 2. Nobody can tell if you're mexican and they wouldn't care that you are one if they could 3. mentioning your race as if it means something says more about you than anyone else
If he is not using VPN or just some proxy, they can find out by his IP address. EDIT: Of course, it only gets your location, not your ethnicity.
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