: THIS is what a team fight should look like....
I haven't seen anyone being able to clean 4 ppls in a long time in this way. If such situation happened he got either instantly bursted down, or he bursted those 4 enemies remaining down himself. Alternatively he used his 3+ mobility spells to run away.
Sukishoo (NA)
: The whole game mode literally says BETA on it, so there's going to be issues like this present till they have finished ironing those out. It's no where near perfect. They even have things happen that they've said were fixed, like I ran into facing the same person three times in a row last nice (and they said that was "fixed" like two patches ago)
So you say it is beta what, at least 1 month on PBE and 3 months and several patches after release to live? Crap argument really now. When it was brand new, you could excuse it but not after all this time and several patches.
: The last Patch in a nutshell:
Lol. He was rolling whole game hence why he had less levels than you. And he got lucky. Something that happens once per 3 games at best. Who said that econ strategy is the only one that should allow you win? Maybe that is how it works in Dota Underlords, here you can win without doing that and this is one of the few things that it is good about tft. Agressive rolling from start is the way how you get tier3s, not econ. This is because the champion pool is limited and shared by all players hence those buying early and rolling early will have higher chance of completing the champions. Also low gold champions have higher chance to appear at lower levels. So if you econ and buy XP to get a decent chance of not losing so you can sit on gold further you are lowering your chances to complete tier3s. Also, we don't know how exactly you rolled your econ. I see plenty of ppls sitting on 50gold with shitty comp and low ranks losing more and more and more and by the time they get online they have 20< hp which means one loss from hardcounter (that can have less hp) and they are out. And. Which tactic is best depends on other players. When I was starting, everyone was following some youtuber who said that the best strategy is to econ 50gold to krugs, then buy champs and econ to wolves then buy champs and then econ to raptors. The thing is, while this can work perfectly, when everyone is doing this it won't and it opens another strategies that prey on the fact that everyone else is doing this.
Ztoka (NA)
: I haven't gotten enough of them to justify on T1-t3 (maybe on ashe/shiv if one never comes up and I need that 3rd unit). But ya, normally sit on them til mid game. Last night i had 2 sej and couldn't roll a 3rd. Used neeko to complete it. Really though, have seen 2 in probably 20-30 games.. So for me, it's super rare.. When rng is treating you right, it doesn't even matter. Last night I rolled 4 kayles in 2 rolls. Most games, I'm lucky to see one.. RNG is a funny/sadistic thing..
Either way you are right about red buff. Unfortunately I didn't though of it early - was trying to complete core items on my strongest champions like Akali. And when this guy got that swain it was too late. I was sitting on 1 part which was not belt nor chain armor and even if it was, after some changes you get only full items in late carousels and dragon/herald/elder now. And I wasn't that lucky to get red buff or morello there. But yeah, if I was my opponent could be posting here about how is red buff unfair. I think that it is just stupidly designed both ways. Single item will completely decide the outcome of the battle and if you don't have specific item you cannot do anything against it.
Aliburm (NA)
: Ever since patch 9.18 was live, the game has lost its fun
The more I play TFT after taking a 2 month break the more it feels even in worse state than when I played last time (which was the ninja-assassin, glacial or gunslingers meta). At least at that time you could still win if you were lucky on items and tier three and build a decent synergies. Now with the same comp that would get me to top3 before (and which was not meta) I end up 8th or 7th and it is extremely onesided. * Getting random champions from minions is bad idea. In most cases you just sell that champ anyway so it is just as if gold dropped, in other cases you get the champ you needed and a stomp begins. * Neeko's Help is badly designed item that is only used in very late game to complete tier2 on (some)gold4 or gold5 champions and sometimes to get tier3 on gold2-3. In patch notes it was announced as an item to help in early. * Addition of hextech champions was unhealthy to the game, it is even harder to get tiers3. Hextech itself is pure crap early and the only thing that makes it somehow viable in late is Jinx. Otherwise this is just a buff to gunslingers who got another high gold champ to the comp. Other champions are barely used outside hextech as they are weak on their own. * Dragon (npc not comp) still acquires item bonuses and that can make it unkillable for certain comps. * On-hit items (and gunsligners) are still a problem. Now it seems to be disarm item running rampage. * Glacial aka permastun is a still a problem. * Because t3 is so hard to get and t2 is so easy to get (now with Neeko's Help even more so), it incentives to play chosen comp every game which make games stalemate and boring. Everyone is playing the same (best) comp because even with the changes in the last patch, you are guaranteed to get all champs of the comp you choose to t2 around the carousel before raptors. Whether you succeed or not with that comp usually depends on other player comps and the items you get. This is the state of the game from initial release though. Not sure if it is the level/XP changes as I didn't really check how exactly it was changed but it feels like you are punished even harder to try roll tier3s than before. You roll and roll and when raptors come you are 2 levels behind and lose to everyone despite you rolled that sweet t3 Garen (who gets outperformed hard by elementalist golem anyway).
Ztoka (NA)
: Neekos help is great imo. Ever sat there waiting to make that 3 star champ and just cant roll the last 1 star to make it happen? Shut, even having 2, T5 champs, using a neeko is super sweet to get a 2 star t5 champ. I have only gotten 2 of them so far but each time I have, my only issue was deciding which champ to use it on. You need to build red buff against swain.. It helps a ton.
So basically you sit on it for whole game to use it in very late. Whether you use it to get level3 gold3-4 champ or level2 gold5 champ doesn't matter. And using it for gold 1-2 champs is probably pointless - most of them is not viable right now anyway it seems.
Comentários de Rioters
: pyke. an assasin with stealth. mobility, fast heal IN COMBAT a hook, an execute, slow. stun
What is the problem? Pyke set up the new standard for assassin class, see {{champion:246}} . Assassins are now allowed to have all this and more.
: I died with 26hp against the 1 place player
Don't sit on gold if you are losing. This will happen 90% times.
: > [{quoted}](name=ShadWooo,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uRWh9Ze8,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2019-04-18T01:25:37.217+0000) > League of bruisers for 2 years already. We need more players playing conq bruisers or busted tanks like Sion in middle. Maybe then riot notices something is not right... League of bruisers? Are we playing the same game? Please, I am curious to see what your op.gg looks like. Did you watch world's last year? Do you look at the challenger ladder and see what champs are dominating/what roles? When you get kennen, ryze, cass, viktor, vayne, tank karma, (insert endless list of mages/cheesey ranged), bruisers are irrelevant in the top lane. League of bruisers.. LOL. Yeah, okay, Bronzie. Please, turn on LCS once in awhile. You'll notice that the only consistent bruiser played is Aatrox, and mages are often played in the top lane, and they pretty much dominated worlds. By the way, OP, if you think my 800 damage from conqu a game is somehow ruining league, you're delusional. I get more damage from grasp, comet, and electrocute just from the lane phase than I do from conqu all game. How on earth can bruisers deal with tanks if conqu doesn't exist, especially for the bruisers that don't have true damage in their kit? What the hell would be the answer to thornmail? Camille doesn't take conqu anymore, trynd doesn't, darius takes aftershock, Fiora often goes grasp, and a lot of other champs that can run conqu often won't, like Nasus, Renekton, Kled, etc. In fact, new conqu is such shit, that it's effectively only a healing rune. The true damage you get over the course of a game from it is truly laughable. Even the healing is sub par compared to ravenous hunter/taste of blood, or even blood line. This suggestion you made, "Dealing damage with a spell or empowered attack applies stacks to the target. Basic Attacking this target consumes the stacks, healing for a flat amount. Or dealing bonus damage for a flat amount," is essentially the current conqueror. Literally. With the exemption of the 8% true damage, which, unequivocally, is not the issue with top lane. The negligible true damage form conqueror is NOT what is wrong with top lane. Top lane is a disgusting counter pick meta, worse than any other lane, and it has the most ridiculous shenanigans going on. We're seeing Tristana top, tank karma, vlad, kennen, vayne, and other mages, like Ryze. These champs inherently make bruisers nonexistent. I am perfectly content on fighting another bruiser every game. Conqueror isn't the issue with top lane. The champ pool itself is... the meta in general. If you think conqueror is the reason why champs like Riven are truly disgusting, again, please, link your op.gg, especially when you want to call early season challenger players "a fucking idiot" and talk about the glory days of top lane when they've been playing the game since season 1, you silver fuck. I don't care for the opinions of anyone that is sub-diamond, as their lack of skill and game knowledge is the reason why they're struggling, not because of a silly keystone. Also, if you don't run conqueror on your champion and you don't play in the top lane, you're probably the last person that anyone should listen to, let alone be in the position to dismiss the opinions of someone that has played top lane since season 1 and peaked in early seasons as challenger. Their opinion is considerably, CONSIDERABLY more valuable than yours. In fact, yours means nothing. When you make these remarks on another thread: "1.) I don't play that much, and I used to play all support not top 2.) My point was precisely that the state of toplane is either, you're unstoppable or useless. The enemy matchup is given all the ridiculous one sided tools you are. Learn to read" No one, and I mean NO one, should listen to you. Silver 3 player, for several consecutive years, that doesn't even play top lane, or barely plays at all, should be the last person to give any input on what the issues in top lane are. Game knowledge alone, without considering mechanics, should get anyone out of silver. If you are stuck there, you are lacking some serious understanding of the game, and obviously, mechanical skills, AND, to top it off, you don't have top lane experience, and you don't play conqueror users or lane against them. How on earth do you not see the irony in calling someone "a fucking idiot" that has been challenger and played top lane for 9+ years? It's akin to me calling Faker a buffoon and that his mid lane knowledge and how it should be balanced is just wrong, even though I don't play mid, and I'm also not a professional player. Thankfully, Riot doesn't balance issues based on the opinions of silver players that don't even deal with the issue that they speak so passionately about. "In my top lane era.." LOL, dude, you're silver, and you don't even play top. You contradicted yourself between 2 different threads. YOU DON'T HAVE a top lane era. Someone that's made challenger and played top lane since season one, like Hashinshin, has a top lane era, and they understand not only top lane, but the entire game MUCH better than you, and have for years. He he also has way more experience, and that goes for any top laner that's mained the role for years and has, for the love of god, at least broken out of silver 3.
Kuponya (NA)
: It seems every single demon champion is a powerhouse on their own
I am not sure this is true. Except Aatrox who really is powerhouse rest of the demons are meh. Elise - super broken because of the dmg to players, but that's about it and if you can't get her to tier3 there is no point using her at all. Varus - very strong early, falls off late super hard. Evelyn - she would be good but that ult of hers is stupid and loses you match most of the times. You give her no items -> she dies before building mana as she starts from 0 and she has slow attacks. Without assassin trait or against PD she barely does any damage. What is worse if you actually give her items like serapt or ludens what happens is that she jumps at important makes few autos, ults. Because she does barely any damage, she didn't get her target below execute HP treshold, her ult does nothing, she repositions and she switches aggro to different unit which gets her killed. Even if she won't switch aggro, the time she loses by need to walk back is usually what makes her to die. Morgana - she is good vs assassins if she actually survives being oneshoted. Besides that her strong ult is hard to utilize, she will only ever damage one max two targets which is quite a waste. Kennen AOE range is 4x higher than hers. The only way I see her being utilized properly is to give her assassin spatula so she can jump into backline where she will have higher chance to damage more units. Brand - seriously probably the worst 4gold unit in game. He will never do anything without items and because he is 4gold unit that is absolutely useless at tier1 you cannot really save items for him. Swain - very strong but suffers from similar issue as Morgana (though in his case it is less problematic as his ult is ongoing and when he repositions it still works). However you need 3 items to make him survive which is worth only if you were given defensive items. I never got him to tier2 unfortunately as at that level he is able to 1v9. But you cannot go into a game with "I get tier2 Swain and win".
: To easy to go the same thing as 4 other guys...
Yes it definitely is, however in a world where there are only 2 comps viable it is probably not a good idea to change that. But yes, going for specific comp is really easy especially if that comp doesn't rely on getting gold1 units to t3. It is too easy to get tier2 and too hard to get tier3. That makes getting levels up early going for tier2 most reliable strategy.
Subdue (NA)
: Getting the Gold in the Early Rounds...
It is better than nothing, but item rng is a problem. And probably will be forever because riot thinks that this is a cool and exciting feature they invented themseles after copypasted the whole mode from dota. I was actually about to install DOTA Underlords but for a simple game it required too much space so in the end I passed. The only reason TFT is so big success is because LoL itself and its champions and realm is very popular. If someone played LoL but also DOTA Underlords then he most likely switched to TFT because the champions, lore and realm is far better here. If someone didn't play autochess before introducting TFT (like me for example) then despite he thinks the game sucks he is unlikely to try DOTA Underlords because he doesn't know the champions at all. Whoever plays LoL can hop into TFT easily, champs works the way one would expect, items are similar and easy to understand as well and overally it is fun to watch how your team battles enemy and you don't need 100% focus nor mechanics nor good ping to play it either.
Barkley (NA)
: If you like downvoting posts, GET IN HERE!
: Riot can we STOP DOING THIS??? spatula prioritized every time
It is not a spatula related. It will happen with other items too. Anyway the ~~solution ~~ workaround is to sell the Vayne with item you don't want. If of course you don't take 9th Vayne from carousel. Sold units have high chance to reappear in next rerolls, at least from my observation. So despite you need that unit really much it is better to sell her to strip the item from her.
: REMOVE UNIT COLLISION ON TFT
I got bumped several times by invisible wall too which resulted in getting champion/item I didn't want. On top of that, whenever you are on winning streak your model becomes fat´, slow and hard to navigate in that carousel which also sometimes results in taking champion you didn't want.
Kaefkahsy (EUW)
: Time (Maybe) Problem After Wolfs
Don't save gold if you are losing. Quickest way to lose.
: What is the best counter to demons in tft?
I never won a game with demons against (voli)glacials, (voli)brawlers and (CB)gunslingers. Demons are not op at slightest. It is just that several strong units are demons.
: HIGHLIGHT CHAMPIONS THAT WILL LEVEL UP IF YOU BUY ONE IN THE SHOP
: Why on earth would you make a ranked mode for TFT that is 99% based on luck?
You are wrong. TFT is about 98% luck 1% knowledge 1% skill. Not 99%.
: Item distribution *beating a dead horse* with style
Yeah, I ended 7th last time I got 5 items from first minion rounds. I was absolutely in shock and didn't know how to use them. It is so much easier when you get 1 item as you don't need to think hard what will you combine it into. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
Luzarius (NA)
: How do you overcome a stubborn RNG?
Yeah there are but t works untill everyone follows those rules :D
: Glacials need counterplay
Either add tenacity on Dragon Claw or nerf the glacial stun from AA to not be able to proc on already stunned unit.
Toadwart (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=ShadWooo,realm=EUNE,application-id=RaE1aOE7,discussion-id=ehnLcB0X,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-26T00:34:33.795+0000) > > Fiora is amazing champion in TFT actually. But... she is only worth at tier3 or in nobles which are the weakest comp by far. > > After some time. I actually agree she should get another buff. I used to play blademasters with Fiora having 3 items on her, but that was before I found out 3 item Aatrox outshines her by far. So right now, I only use her to get blademasters buff and will replace her the moment I get tier 2 draven as Shen and Aatrox are a must and if you have Draven it is better to take Darius/Katarina/Swain for the double damage buff than keeping her. > > At very least, her ability needs to be always redirected to nearest living unit. That might make her bit more viable. It would be nice if she actually ulted the target she was attacking instead of ulting on a full health guy then returning to melee her target.
That is actually not a problem. She still stuns that unit and she will be immune to everything when doing it. In some situations sure, it should be better if she used it on the low hp unit she is fighting but in other situations stunning the other nearby unit can be much more beneficial. However what happens quite often is that Fiora starts channeling her spell and the target she was fighting (or rather which the spell chosen already at the start of casting) dies and she ults into void stunning nobody despite there are other targets close she could stun. BTW just won with Fiora carry team. Got t3 Fiora before golems, on top of that I started with BF and got tear, bow and rod so I put it all on her, rageblade + SoS, she solocarried all matches in early/mid game. At raptors I had spare cloak so I put it on her and I was able to take another BF from carousel which was BT. And if she somehow got low, lulu ulted her and she kept going. In the end, I lost 3 times in row against 3shapechanger/6sorcerers team, but after last carousel I was finally able to roll third Draven and the imperial buff were applied on him. With some luck of mana draining his t2 aurelion by demon spatula lulu, I was able to win against his t3 Shyvana with 3 items. so yeah t3 Fiora with {{item:3124}} {{item:3161}} {{item:3080}} or {{item:3161}} {{item:3083}} {{item:3046}} can do wonders. Well at least with Shen and Lulu in same team :)
we225 (NA)
: Fiora's ability should be OLD FIORA
Fiora is amazing champion in TFT actually. But... she is only worth at tier3 or in nobles which are the weakest comp by far. After some time. I actually agree she should get another buff. I used to play blademasters with Fiora having 3 items on her, but that was before I found out 3 item Aatrox outshines her by far. So right now, I only use her to get blademasters buff and will replace her the moment I get tier 2 draven as Shen and Aatrox are a must and if you have Draven it is better to take Darius/Katarina/Swain for the double damage buff than keeping her. At very least, her ability needs to be always redirected to nearest living unit. That might make her bit more viable.
: 2 item limit would do alot to balance this game
Yeah, I also believe it would be much more balanced and strategic this way.
Veszelka (EUNE)
: Tft is so unbalanced i cant belive it
Item rng is stupid but believe it or not last time I got 5 items from first minion rounds, I ended up 7th :D. Lost before 3rd carousel because I had single t2 unit. Game really didn't give me any other 3 same champions. Also from the 5 items I got 2 chain mails, one cloak one belt and one rod which didn't really gave me much options.
phoda (EUNE)
: TFT Beta pass
The last reward is stupid icon and nothing else. Why do you care?
: > [{quoted}](name=ShadWooo,realm=EUNE,application-id=RaE1aOE7,discussion-id=ZoEIWAxJ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-25T09:18:36.406+0000) > > 1) Not good option because it wouldn't be consistent. Imo applying items on all onhits and spells was bad idea from start and it is what caused this shit. It is not just cursed blade and it gets abused with sword breaker and hush as well. Either this mechanic goes away and we restore peace in Runeterra or another solution needs to be found. > 2) That would make CB useless except on GS/volibear which isn't good solution. > 3) CB is actually bad in early. But this goes in the right way. > > However I have better solution. Let it affect only single living target per item instance. That means that if Tristana has CB then each time she attacks, procs spell or GS passive, there would be chance to trigger CB. But, the moment that happens no other unit can be further affected from the same Tristana UNLESS she would have two or three cursed blades (well this stacking could probably be needless, the % chance stacks so that should be enough maybe). However, when that unit dies, the CB "lock" will reset and Tristana will be able to proc it on another unit. > > The only downside I see is that if you use CB on Tristana and Lucian at the same time, it can happen that they both trigger the CB on same unit, which will make it bit less effective. But that is RNG. 1. You're right about the hush, SB, and CB abuse with the On hit effects. I feel it's overpowered as well. Especially since hush has a 50% chance to work on hit like WHAAAAAT!? 2. It wouldn't be desirable for other units no, you're right on that. My goal with that one is to balance it out more. Not all items can be desirable on all units/comps imo of course. 3. I'm not sure if you mean in current or with this suggestion, but I personally found a comp that abuses the early game giving you a solid 90+ hp lead very hard to lose in the early game before you transition into the late game. I would love to share it, but I've yet to see it be abused yet and I'm not looking to promote CB being abused more than it is. Your suggestion isn't bad at all. 1 unit to be shrunk per CB, per live lock, per instance/fight. Meaning that we can keep it going to 0 stars, but not the whole team. This would allow for your team to actually have a fighting chance and tbh without the right units being removed form a comp it wouldn't be overwhelming at all. In other words unless they can hit, shrink, and destroy a Sol from a Sorc comp the comp wouldn't be useless and fall apart because of a single item. Very good suggestion. Thank you for your feedback.
I meant CB not very good as early rush item. I agree winning early strat is best to get to top4 (where you get decimated by gunslingers with CB or volibear glacial (with or w/o CB as well)). But imo the strongest early item are {{item:3087}} {{item:3161}} {{item:3748}} + red buff. Locket/Zeke also great but I would rather build other items personally. CB starts to doing work after krugs and after you get gunslinger passive. It was never very good item on standalone unit, decent but not overpowered. It is overpowered because of the onhit/spell interaction riot implemented this patch.
Ðïana (NA)
: Make sure you place him to the side for the first round so he gets a shot or two on one of them before the other reaches him. Literally every champ with any item is able to clear round 1 - I've cleared it with every option available essentially. Including with a Spatula Graves, Spatula Lulu, etc. Must've just had a real unlucky round in some way or other, or had him placed dead center and he derped on a shot somehow somewhere.
Even minions have a 25% chance to crit. So, if graves with Spatula didn't get any, and minions were getting tons of crits. if he also positioned him into middle of the map (or game auto-assigned him there if he didn't paid attention) and thus striking only single minion at the time then I guess it can happen. For graves it would be better to put him to side so the farthest minion has to come to him and lines up with the closest miniion.
: If you reduce the champ pool then yes that might give one or two people t3 units but then that would be possibly 12' t1 champs already out the pool which could mean some people might be stuck with a t1 champ the entire game.
But that is exactly the point. You would actually have to think and you would actually need to build what game gives you if you want to avoid this. So if you see that someone else is building Volibear glacial comp, you need to go for those shapeshifters that game is giving you. It was even said in the beginning you need to do this. That was before ppls realized that no, you really don't have to, because the chance to get all units to t2 is high but chance to get any unit to t3 is very low and it doesn't matter how many players are building same team. So what would be wrong with this? You are now basically guaranteed to get any champ except gold5 to t2 sooner or later. Obviously it is better to run a comp where there are multiple units and the bonus is good enough without full set so you can replace champ A with champ B if game is not offering you any A, but even Yordles are pretty easy to get and in their case you can survive with t1 Gnar quite easily.
: What comp do you normally run. I have been trying to do a voli blademaster build but cant get the champs/items. I have seen most success with either yordoles, demon brawlers, and elemental brawlers and of course pretty much anything that has ninjas
Blademaster/demons with Varus/Aatrox as main carry and adding Draven. That being said, I no longer can win a single game now when everyone is running gunslingers with cursed blade (and all my units are level 0 after 5 seconds of the match) and Volibear glacials (where my frontline does 0 damage because permanent stun for entire game without counterplay, not even shen ult helps if he is by some luck able to cast it). These two teams are simply unbeatable by blademasters and everyone is running it now - which further proves my point, everyone plays the same team every game. It is easy enought to get t2.
: Why is the Ai to all units so incredibly bad?
Because champion AI in TFT is using minion AI from SR.
0megon (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=ShadWooo,realm=EUNE,application-id=RaE1aOE7,discussion-id=6JqR0tel,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-25T08:39:41.583+0000) > > I just lost in stage 5-5 (round before dragon) when playing nobles and I haven't seen single Leona entire game. Not in store, not in carousel. Snapped Kayle from 3rd carousel but Leona was nowhere. Not even any other player had her. > > But well wasn't I lucky though - I got t3 Lucian and t3 Fiora. The only problem is that I was awarded by 5 items total from which I wasn't able to complete any offensive item besides SoS after I took tear from 4th carousel. > > At least I got to top four. Funny situation, Fiora got de-starred from t3 to t0 in less than 1 second after tristana swapped target on her. Really enjoyed. But well at least I got to fight. The volibear glacials comp just perma stunned my whole team for entire match. What was your level when you tried to find her? Also I would advise you to just give up trying nobles. The buff is decent but not that strong and any synergy that only has the exact number of champions to complete without even chance to complete it through spatula is just not worth it. Plus the noble ,,bronze" synergy is pointless after everyone gets few additional levels and the units by themselves aren't that good in mid game(bunch of 1 and 2 costs and pretty weak 4 cost compared to Seju or Cho) so if you do not complete Nobles early you get run over. In the current iterration of nobles the complete synergy is just a bait and if you try to chase it you are asking for getting RNGed out.
Oh I know. But blademasters doesn't work anyway and I got tons of nobles early in both games so I went for that. There are basically just 3 viable comps to win, nobles got me 3rd and 4th place at least as they tend to be winning early at least so despite losing all rounds after raptors before I lost all hp most other players not playing meta got knocked out. I normally don't play nobles because I know that buff is weak and getting all six is very hard. Anyway, I was sitting on 30+ gold early to late. First stage I was buying champs, after I got several Lucians and Fioras I started buying XP. I was level 8 for 4 rounds before I got knocked up. Last 10 rounds I was just rolling the little gold I was given up to 0. She wasn't there. I mentioned it because Leona is gold 4 unit, usually the problem with nobles is to get Kayle. And I didn't found single Leona for entire game being level 8 round before Dragon :D
: Gunslinger Cursed Blade Meta and How to Fix It
1) Not good option because it wouldn't be consistent. Imo applying items on all onhits and spells was bad idea from start and it is what caused this shit. It is not just cursed blade and it gets abused with sword breaker and hush as well. Either this mechanic goes away and we restore peace in Runeterra or another solution needs to be found. 2) That would make CB useless except on GS/volibear which isn't good solution. 3) CB is actually bad in early. But this goes in the right way. However I have better solution. Let it affect only single living target per item instance. That means that if Tristana has CB then each time she attacks, procs spell or GS passive, there would be chance to trigger CB. But, the moment that happens no other unit can be further affected from the same Tristana UNLESS she would have two or three cursed blades (well this stacking could probably be needless, the % chance stacks so that should be enough maybe). However, when that unit dies, the CB "lock" will reset and Tristana will be able to proc it on another unit. The only downside I see is that if you use CB on Tristana and Lucian at the same time, it can happen that they both trigger the CB on same unit, which will make it bit less effective. But that is RNG.
: This RNG is beyond absurd
I just lost in stage 5-5 (round before dragon) when playing nobles and I haven't seen single Leona entire game. Not in store, not in carousel. Snapped Kayle from 3rd carousel but Leona was nowhere. Not even any other player had her. But well wasn't I lucky though - I got t3 Lucian and t3 Fiora. The only problem is that I was awarded by 5 items total from which I wasn't able to complete any offensive item besides SoS after I took tear from 4th carousel. At least I got to top four. Funny situation, Fiora got de-starred from t3 to t0 in less than 1 second after tristana swapped target on her. Really enjoyed. But well at least I got to fight. The volibear glacials comp just perma stunned my whole team for entire match. EDIT: lost round before 4th carousel, again playing nobles not a single Kayle. But the guy who knocked me out had t2 swain and one more at bench lol. I don't think there is more powerful unit than t2 Swain. Brutal tankyness and damage and healing with just giant belt on him.
: rng. I mean you could be so unlucky as to fight 3 fucking elises back to back and get 8th place.
Hence why "Strategy" in game's name.
: lol glacial wins. League just notify that in 9.14 gonna nerf voli, but not glacial. damn
I just was super lucky and completed t3 Aatrox for the first time ever. I gave him 3 items. I positioned my units in a way so that darius and morgana will drag aggro of all the glacial units. Then match started. Darius and Morgana indeed drag the aggro. 3item t3 Aatrox came from side and tried to attack enemy Sejuani. Stunned for the rest of the match without being able to land single aa. Same for Darius, same for Morgana, same for Shen. I had Varus and Draven in backline but they were not doing any damage at all to that Braum and Volibear. Well I had just Seraph on Varus so that is to be expected, but it doesn't matter anyway even with 3 items on both Draven and Varus it would ended with me losing 30 hitpoints anyway. So fun gameplay.
: Please tell me shiv procs mana drain on demons right?
I don't think so. But his ult should have a chance to apply it.
woodmonk (NA)
: TFT and End Game Fights Against Enemy Clones is BS
Clone/Ghost armies doesn't have origin/class bonuses. It is basically a free round, but it is possible to lose anyway (items works so big item diff can decide it). And yes it is unfair, but apparently this is how it works in other auto-chess games and riot copied it. Don't expect this to be changed.
Barkley (NA)
: Boards: League is a mess because there's too many champions, its impossible to balance Boards: TFT doesn't have enough champions. Needs more champions.
First desilusional player posts this and you jump into conclusion. No we don't want more champions. Yes there are enough possibilities what to build (the problem is that not all are equally strong though).
: I love all the crazy options we have to build all sorts of whacky effective comps
Don't be sarcastic. There are in fact plenty of combinations you can have with volibear.
: When nerf Volibear + Glacial
Maybe gunslingers with CB on trist and lucian and their own glacial tanks in front of them...
: > [{quoted}](name=ShadWooo,realm=EUNE,application-id=RaE1aOE7,discussion-id=reE54UNr,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-24T23:44:52.011+0000) > > You sir are a bad example which will Riot abuse to justify their "item rng is exciting and interesting". How so?
Because you are making these posts "hey look at me guys 0 items and I won in the end and it was super exciting and fun". Well lucky you, I ended up 6th, 7th and 7th last 3 games where I get 0/1 items and got knocked out before raptors.
: Lowest roll in TFT history?
You sir are a bad example which will Riot abuse to justify their "item rng is exciting and interesting". {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
: Counterpoint: Knights.
: I have not lost a single game with a full team of Yordles, whenever I get the chance to build them with a 3* Lulu, 3* Kennen + additional sorcerer. I say Nobles as the units in that comp are insane by themselves with a couple of items. Edit: Forgot about Vieg, did a 6 sorc combo with a literal machine gun Vieg with the items, it was unfair.
: If the game gives you wild shapeshifters then build wild shapeshifters but you can transition into sorc or dragons you dont need to commit to wild shapeshift the entire game because that is a early comp that falls off. There is a game called chess rush on mobile not sure if you heard of it or play but there is a "chess piece" that will auto combine 2 1*star units to make a 2*star and if you get that piece to 2*star as well you can combine 2 2*star units to make a 3*star. They could possibly do something like that I guess. You are probably higher TFT ello than I but it sounds like that guy just got crazy lucky. There is not a for sure strat to get 3*star units. You can hyper roll but that kills econ but might work out might not. It sounds like he just out lucked you tbh.
> [{quoted}](name=Norocku23,realm=NA,application-id=RaE1aOE7,discussion-id=dmeKQktc,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-24T19:45:21.348+0000) > > You are probably higher TFT ello than I but it sounds like that guy just got crazy lucky. There is not a for sure strat to get 3*star units. You can hyper roll but that kills econ but might work out might not. It sounds like he just out lucked you tbh. Lol. You are even agreeing with me. Again. There is no guaranteed strategy to get t3 champs. Doesn't matter if you get 3 Nidalees or 3 Shens very early the chance you find 6 more is very low. And because of that, and the fact that to find 3 of the same units is actually easy and basically guaranteed, there is no point playing what game gives you and what might be stronger than other options IF and only IF you would get those champs at t3. But because there is no guarantee that will happen it is much safer and logical to use what the game gave you only to survive early game and between collect champs you need for the comp you want to play. So everyone who is smart enough is already playing the same shit over and over. 3 more games since I replied to your post, 3x in top 4 (no 1st place though) and promoted to p2. There are only two possibilities. Either I am right in which case you should do what I say. Or I am wrong and it is all about luck, the chance to win/climb is same for everyone no matter what strategy they choose which essentially mean it doesn't matter what you do - it is out of yur hands from the beginning. EDIT: and back to the original post. We are already in a meta where everyone plays the same stuff. If that is true, maybe we really need to make some changes to champion rng. I would probably make it so you need 8 units for t3 (4 units -> t2, 2x t2 -> t3) and decrease champion pool by a lot. That might make it more likely to obtain t3 if you get that champ early and nerf the "play the same stuff every game" strategy at the same time which means more unique games.
: If the game gives you wild shapeshifters then build wild shapeshifters but you can transition into sorc or dragons you dont need to commit to wild shapeshift the entire game because that is a early comp that falls off. There is a game called chess rush on mobile not sure if you heard of it or play but there is a "chess piece" that will auto combine 2 1*star units to make a 2*star and if you get that piece to 2*star as well you can combine 2 2*star units to make a 3*star. They could possibly do something like that I guess. You are probably higher TFT ello than I but it sounds like that guy just got crazy lucky. There is not a for sure strat to get 3*star units. You can hyper roll but that kills econ but might work out might not. It sounds like he just out lucked you tbh.
Oh my god. Of course you buy those 3 nidalees and place them on the map. Tier2 > tier1 with comp bonus. Perhaps even place that ww there although the 2wild synergy is shit and thus it is better to put there any other g2+ unit or t2 unit. But that is only temporarily and in a meanwhile you will be collecting champions you need for the chosen comp and transition into it the moment you collect enough tiers2 or items. By the time you fight with raptors you should have chosen comp with all champions at tier2 unless that comp contains gold4+ champions. So basically everyone plays the same stuff almost every game. And those who doesn't lose.
: I know you have heard/read this many times but you really have to play according to what the game gives you. You cant go for a team comp round 1 you start possibly building your comp after first carousel. Honestly most of the OP comps require times which are not even guaranteed. The most op you can go without items is glacial and elementalist.
Wrong. This is way to lose. You don't build wild/shapeshifters because game gives you 3 nidalee and 1 warwick in first 3 rounds. And those who do are not gonna get to top 4 unless they are very lucky. Well at least in my elo. If you play normals I guess it doesn't matter but that is not the point. The chance that you won't get the champ you need for the op comp or the comp you enjoy to play is minimal unless we are talking about nobles here as those bonus at 3 is useless and Kayle is hard to find. And guess what, even if you get zero champions of the comp you want to go there is still about the same chance you will actually get that champion to tier3 in the very end. Just played against one such guy who went for current fotm gunslingers with CB and despite he had none of these champs early and others were building it too, when I got to top2 he had lucian at t3, tristana at t3 and graves at t3. I was missing 1 shen and 1 aatrox to get any t3. Not like it mattered, my team got de-starred to zero in seconds anyway lol. There is simply no guarantee that you get the champ(s) you were given early to t3. And therefore it is better to just go for comp you want to play and which is stronger (at t2 level) than what you have been given. Game really needs to have some guarantee mechanic to get t3 easier especially on t1 champs or this will not change and everyone will play gunslingers and volibear/glacial or volibear/brawlers. Getting 9 same units is lottery, getting 3 of them is guaranteed. Easy as that.
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