: Can someone expain to me what was toxic in my chat to get a 14 day ban...
Be happy isn't permanent ,quit now still you have the account ,cause after the 14 days ban ,slightest thingh get you banned , so much chances are gived to you by riot to Reform.. . My advice , play some other account , and if you play just to unlock your honor , without using chat at all ... , and then just move on new account and when your punishment level reset ,get back to this account and play back. Don't do my mistakes i did in life ,save yourself son , they are so madness that , you get 140 years ban for not even insulting someone , just for some sentences which wouldn't be in 1000 years toxic ... , just save yourself and play another account... ,until you learn to handle the stress from this game. (nvm just now seen you are lv 18...)
: usually happens when I use mb4 or mb5 as well
this is so cringe... i have 2 extra buttons to use and i can't .... , the game broke them huh...
: Randomly alt tabing during match
my game is get minimization over the windows bar ,when i use "this area is warded " as ping binded on mb4 , every time i use it for first time the game took me to desktop , then after i use it ... ,in the game nothing else happen , every game i use this ping for the first time i get my game window minimization , do you think what is in this video can help my issue ?
AIQ (NA)
: Odd, I greatly enjoyed gold elo personally I'd like to go back. Maybe we have just had very different experiences in league. Sort of Ironic that you've been banned multiple times and you're telling me I'm wrong for "muting because I get angry, when this feature hasn't existed all 7 of the years I've played. So this next paragraph is sort of an issue, but in reality it's not. >if i feel like he insist and i am getting somehow affected by him i mute him Being proactive and reactive for the same result is well... the same result. >sure i keep my chat opened to see every time who is toxic ,who is giving up , who is threat his team that he will troll/grief , etc. At first I thought this mattered, it doesn't. A troll will troll you cannot stop him. If anything not knowing hes a troll might benefit you due to you being non partial especially while jungling. If he knows you can't see his chat and you are ganking for him, he might not troll since there is nothing to gain no rage to see. >because i want to get evidence that he broke rules and that he actually did what he sayd First off, one report is all you need, and your reporting will trigger a review of the chat. Of course, you can only monitor inting and trolling, but usually if someone is flaming someone that is in chat will report. Now what if everyone did that? Well… there would be no toxicity… no one would flame, even if 4 players muted and 1 was in chat, he affects no one by typing just as much as he affects people while shouting at his mother “THESE NOOBS SUCK!!” >so that means you can't take any action against them You can always report toxic behavior, regardless if you witnessed it, as it will always be reviewed before punishment. >why should i report him ,since the guy been insulted refused too communicate at all with his team. Going to use hyperbole here, if a man murdered someone and you witnessed it, but another woman had a curtain blocking her view from it. Should you not report that murder since someone else didn't see it? Obviously we are not dealing with murder, but the point stands just because someone didn't choose to see it, doesn't mean it's still shouldn't be reported. Refusing to communicate is also not a thing, it wasn't when it was on the report system, it was for refusing to cooperate more than anything. >is not your buisness to make justice , A bit of a oxymoron? I'm assuming you just made a mistake here in your point so I'll ignore this. >you would at least notice that someone got toxic , and then you just could pretend that you have your chat disabled..., or lie about the fact you have chat disabled idk... I've done this very often actually, more than you think. I always post my message, but I may or may not activate it. Ranked I usually don't bother, but norms i will often remain in chat. Look at the end of the day it doesn't matter. The OP wants to reform, if he is unable to deal with chat the best option is to remove it from the equation. I disable chat in order to avoid conflict with this community as per my experience this community for the most part is one of, if not the most toxic of all. I will periodically turn it on, but until you've experienced it yourself you wont understand the benefits outweigh ALL the cons. I am not saying that removing chat is only good, you have valid points, but none of them warrant me having to deal with 35 minutes of useless banter and toxic flamers, for the periodic person that says gank in 2 minutes while I push or GG and means it.
i am agree , most of times you have a negative experience into ranked regarding the chat , but if positive people not use it , and negative people are leaved to do what they want ,this will never change ,you see someone is toxic , be there hold the situation as an adult ,and show others how to deal with toxicity , i am so calm and so much i evolve based on dealing with toxicity daily , because thrust me ,if you would have the internet to acces eune servers and to play ranked , you would need psychologist consultation ,in my country ,and any country in the eastern europe , if you visit a psychologist you are tag as a crazy human who ,have some psychological problems , maybe that's why so many people act so strange and weird on my server i play... ,i tell you here are so many people who have psychological problems and would do anything possible to avoid to visit one ... , if someone send them to a specialist regarding some issues , they are like you sending me to psychologist , i am not crazy... , imagine that anyone who does that job , actually don't have people to work with and earn money from having such a job. I am extremly honest about this... , you don't want to see how often people here grief/troll/toxic , if i would have a pc to do streaming and you would watch my stream =)) ,you would feel like every player in my games is possessed . Thrust me it took so much time for me to control myself to how toxic they can be ,that every time they were succed to exceed the limits of my patience. Now i create an euw account ,hope there is slightly better , because i don't want to play on a server where so many people having personal problems when playing this game.
: > [{quoted}](name=Illabethe,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yKGWVA9I,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-24T18:44:08.360+0000) > > https://u.gg/lol/champions/maokai/build Play rate is 5 times as much as Maokai Jungle This is also S9, Respectively as in, the role when they got the skin, which maokai was offmeta top, mainly in the jungle.
> [{quoted}](name=Pumpedhero,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yKGWVA9I,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-24T19:00:34.685+0000) > > This is also S9, Respectively as in, the role when they got the skin, which maokai was offmeta top, mainly in the jungle. i one feel like , kai'sa ,jinx excell this season as picks , and in the last time garen, i never seen aatrox played at worlds... , maybe i am wrong ,but they nerf aatrox and now he get a victorious skin ?? .Kai'sa is most played adc... this season and all seasons... ,she probably broken and riot not even mark changes to her. Aatrox according to pick rate ... , is likely between 25-32 position in players preferences, according to op.gg pick rate champions
AIQ (NA)
: There's a ping for that. I usually on VC still ping it so no you should be pining your mana. Most junglers will look if you ping targeting this champion. Especially in a solo lane to indicate that they are primed for a gank. It's worked for me. Again, no one communicates that, they complain about it. Oh no, no one ever offers advice, but on rare occurrences and no, Diamond is no better. My D2 promos just before this one had laners just barking at each other. Diamond is the reason I disabled my chat. Because everyone here thinks they know better. No one talks about the game they expect you to know the basics and not be baby sat on things that you should just know. Like not getting solo killed constantly. Trust me on this one Diamond is not as sunshine and rainbows as you think, neither are masters. The only nice players (based on elo) I've seen are challengers, likely because they have nothing to prove. I've only ever seen one toxic challenger myself. The risk of running into someone toxic does not outweigh the reward of palying with someone that is "cool." I have only made 2 friends in 7 years on League via in game play. One of them stopped playing. I honestly cannot recall the last time in a ranked game I just enjoyed a conversations with someone. Regardless, ranked is not the place to be typing memes and jokes anyway. >You are afraid of not getting angry because someone flames you , that means you have no self control , and you can't hold yourself chill/calm , which means Riot did something wrong with this disable chat function , what's the point to play a multiplayer game if you not even communicate Mighty big assumption there. Who's to say that I responded before? Obviously as an Honor 5 I have not given into flaming back and frequently muted and blocked. I'd argue it takes more control to not re-enable chat to see what the flame is rather than leaving it off and playing correctly. >, if i may ask ??/ You just called me a no self control, volatile, angry player and then ask for permission? lol okay? >, there are enought offline games which you can play if that's the problem for you "the communication". If you must know, League is fun, league is a great game and I would LOVE to talk to others. The problem is the community is really bad, we couldn't even have a superior rank system because of abuse. Flamers and toxic players come to this board as if they did nothing wrong. Memes of blame the jungler are rampant not because they are funny rather because they are true. The toxicity in this game is not a result of Riot nor them not trying to fight it. It's that this community likes taking advantage of all that they can, obviously not all. Also those games don't have Shyvana and Syndra. I want to point out 3 things though. I have not experienced a game in which I lost something substantial due to not chatting or not seeing other chat. I'm a Jungle main too so I'm not in a bubble. Neither one of us are "right." There are games in which chat could be on and communication can flourish. (As rare as a unicorn, but at least it exist.) There are also games (most) where chat is absolutely useless and you could leave it on or off since no one is really using it. There are also games where the chat is only toxic, you saying "hey guys it's okay lets focus," means absolutely nothing. These games it should be disabled. You can arge for all 3 and you'd be "right." My point was that League is more enjoyable without chat, that's not a guess or statement that's experience. I was telling you to do that experiment because I did it myself... 25 games chat on, no talking. Useful things said in chat that pings could not cover... 4 (This point stuck out strongly to me, 4 useful things would've been missed over 25 games notice this is not by game 3 where in the same game) Toxic chat such as flaming or harassment. (over 5 lines of chat) 19 (This was the second point that I really had stick out, almost every game was something toxic. ) Toxic chat games directly related to me (over 5 lines of chat) 12 (Why would I want to talk to people saying things like "bad jungler" "better jungler wins"?) The I took a friend for 10 games and muted all. My copy and paste message is... >I have disabled my in game chat, no I will not re-enable it. I will use pings. People usually try to ask why etc., but I've never had someone try to get me to turn it back on. During those games, I missed nothing important according to my duo, and 9 games of players being toxic 6 were bot lane 2 where the top laner and 1 was the enemy. Oddly a lot pf people would say this beyond this experiment. His chat is disabled don't bother. Many people I play with tell me this happens often where a situation was a player was begging to flame me and it defused the toxic player, since he knew he couldn't talk to me. One time I had chat on, and I muted a player that then apologized after I muted him later on. So to say that muting is bad is not accurate. Of course if you are okay with toxic chat and your experience is better than mine, that's fine enjoy your chat, but I've disabled it for ranked play and I have not regretted that choice.
to be honest , i been having past issues regarding chat , i fix them , but then i been having issues with people griefing and abusing support role intentionally as they been assigned support because of autofill system , passing over those problems , after i got a permanent ban out of nowhere , because i was having like 3 months of non toxic behaviour almost every punishment i woulded run into , i was every time finding the power to analys myself and to do my best to don't break rules ,to be honest that didn't help me that much because every 3 months i was receiving stronger punishments , i had to work of myself over my behaviour , so when i reach the 2 nd permanent ban after 5 years since i got the first one , i realise that i must disconnect of all toxicity , to take insults as joke , to ignore any mean thought of my allies , and if there is something he says good i woulded take it and move on ... , so from my experience i been so disconnected by any toxic guy/troll/grief for time of 11 months , i will not lie because i had a weakness and broke somehow the rules recently and now i have honor lv 1 , but before i even touch honor lv 3 checkpoint 3 .. so i was really close to high honor level , and basically i use chat without problems , playing around gold elo , where is much worse than diamond in terms of behaviour ,as you meet often toxic players/griefers/trollers . So i treat every case of toxicity as this , okey i notice the toxicity and personally leave him to talk , if i feel like he insist and i am getting somehow affected by him i mute him , but be sure i keep my chat opened to see every time who is toxic ,who is giving up , who is threat his team that he will troll/grief , etc... , if i have no acces to chat , i wouldn't be able to see that top complain about something or that his intentions are to grief/troll ,so once someone tell me he will grief/troll i analys sometimes him , because i want to get evidence that he broke rules and that he actually did what he sayd , you for exemple having the chat disabled , you can't see those problems , even if maybe it wouldn't affect you , so that means you can't take any action against them . If everyone would be acting like , is not my problem how others behave , then no one will ever see griefers/trollers and they will be more hard to be banned... ,beside that the toxicity would have higher chances to don't be punished , if he does flame you , and you don't see ,and the other teammates will just ignore and say ,eh he haven't been toxic to me , why should i report him ,since the guy been insulted refused too communicate at all with his team. So note the problems , don't make them look personal , is not your buisness to make justice , is not your buisness to stop them ,but that dosn't mean we should just close the eyes and pretend that no one is around to break rules... , if you would stay passive having the chat enabled , you would at least notice that someone got toxic , and then you just could pretend that you have your chat disabled..., or lie about the fact you have chat disabled idk... , and assist into that as a chat spy :) , but without leaving anyone insults to look like it affects your actions ,or who do you help and how do you play. Cause some people refuse to help others once they get insulted.
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TheCrazyBoy (EUNE)
: dude you think i am stupid or something , they haven't ... , if i tell you they haven't did that , i every time asked for that particulary thingh , what's the point to do multiple tickets and ask for same thingh .... , i want a Rioter to proof me with ticket where they gived me the lines and only the lines they considered toxic ... , over that account , i want a rioter to come in here and proof me ticket answer with that... , i am just tired of this subject and i got ip banned for nothing , cause who the f12414 dosn't have something else to do ,than just requesting same thingh for which i am 900% sure that they haven't answer , because they ignored my request and answer something else regarding what i was writing. If that's not enought last time i was talking in general about punishments , haven't started the ticket about my problems , just speaking in general about punishments , then somehow the ticket took to the point where a rioter asked for my account name/server/IGN ,stating that he wanted to look into to see what just happened ... , and if that's not enought , i been complain about some agents abuse and about the fact they refused to fill my request regarding what i ask for, if that's also abusing and spamming support , that i maded a ticket about some agents abuse ... , how someone else came into my ticket and took me ip banned seems to be fair or something what i deserve... . If i do complain about agents resolution of my problems ,regarding my subject and about ignoring my request , and someone ask me for my name of account to look into case ,how is my fault that the ticket got passed to someone else who ip banned me , help me to understand ,what kind of abuse i been doing ??? , i not even can contest the current ip ban , because the twitter from RIOT SUPPORT IGNORES THAT...... AND IS MY FAULT FOR HOW THEY TREAT ME , i hope THEY SEE THIS AND BE ASHAMED. I haven't seen in my entire life such support assistance and i had no problems at all on any other game on using support assistance , and this happens to a giant of gaming industry , i am not feeling myself that important ,but i feel like i should receive what hold and keeps of my account state and problems. If the punishment was for real , that dosn't mean i didn't had the right to get the lines they marked as toxic . And you will tell me what was that important about the lines you been considered toxic . I told them and i am telling you , i was using them to proof the fact that IFS just takes words as insults and dosn't mather the context they been used + that Riot just ignored that and refused to analys the context of the chat logs. Why would i believe they analys it ... , when they just can say you are toxic you deserve permanent ban and not even waste time anymore to analys and question if IFS worked right or not. I wanted the lines for myself to understand what and how exactly what they marked toxic took them to conclusion that 140 years ban was the right thingh to action like.
If you really not believe me , then no one will , i mean the truth is every time same , if i would be lie about then the storry would change and not be same... ,but you have to believe me this isn't something i wanted to get too... . I am just forced to quit this storry and subject because i get tired to see how people ignore and Riot does it as well , is not alright and i know that i shouldn't be treat like that , they will never recognize them problems.
: You understand that support agents can't change the rules and can't make exceptions, right? So because you earned a punishment through breaking the rules and feeling you deserved special treatment, you decided to constantly spam support and earn yourself a ban there too. What's wrong with you?
nothing is wrong with me , first of all i got ip banned for accesing support line assistance , i have a bug who repeats every day and takes me out of my ranked games as soon as i ping this area is warded , and i have the key binded to my mouse key mb4 , further more i haven't been breaking rules to worth ip ban for connecting support assistance, i been receiving 2 ip bans , every internet connection i try to connect support assistance and solve my problem i can't , if i do new account i can't acces support assistnace, i been writing a topic about the bug problem , and it just get ignored , so tell me what's so wrong with me , if i really want to have my acces back to tehnical support , and more than this i don't 124141 care anymore about them abuse and what ever they did there on support , but i am asking for them to fix my problem and i can't see if they reach or seen my problem.
Tele II (NA)
: I wonder if they did answer you but you just didnt like the answer so you took it as them not providing the correct information, and kept making new support tickets asking the same shit that they already answered. Hmmm idk.
dude you think i am stupid or something , they haven't ... , if i tell you they haven't did that , i every time asked for that particulary thingh , what's the point to do multiple tickets and ask for same thingh .... , i want a Rioter to proof me with ticket where they gived me the lines and only the lines they considered toxic ... , over that account , i want a rioter to come in here and proof me ticket answer with that... , i am just tired of this subject and i got ip banned for nothing , cause who the f12414 dosn't have something else to do ,than just requesting same thingh for which i am 900% sure that they haven't answer , because they ignored my request and answer something else regarding what i was writing. If that's not enought last time i was talking in general about punishments , haven't started the ticket about my problems , just speaking in general about punishments , then somehow the ticket took to the point where a rioter asked for my account name/server/IGN ,stating that he wanted to look into to see what just happened ... , and if that's not enought , i been complain about some agents abuse and about the fact they refused to fill my request regarding what i ask for, if that's also abusing and spamming support , that i maded a ticket about some agents abuse ... , how someone else came into my ticket and took me ip banned seems to be fair or something what i deserve... . If i do complain about agents resolution of my problems ,regarding my subject and about ignoring my request , and someone ask me for my name of account to look into case ,how is my fault that the ticket got passed to someone else who ip banned me , help me to understand ,what kind of abuse i been doing ??? , i not even can contest the current ip ban , because the twitter from RIOT SUPPORT IGNORES THAT...... AND IS MY FAULT FOR HOW THEY TREAT ME , i hope THEY SEE THIS AND BE ASHAMED. I haven't seen in my entire life such support assistance and i had no problems at all on any other game on using support assistance , and this happens to a giant of gaming industry , i am not feeling myself that important ,but i feel like i should receive what hold and keeps of my account state and problems. If the punishment was for real , that dosn't mean i didn't had the right to get the lines they marked as toxic . And you will tell me what was that important about the lines you been considered toxic . I told them and i am telling you , i was using them to proof the fact that IFS just takes words as insults and dosn't mather the context they been used + that Riot just ignored that and refused to analys the context of the chat logs. Why would i believe they analys it ... , when they just can say you are toxic you deserve permanent ban and not even waste time anymore to analys and question if IFS worked right or not. I wanted the lines for myself to understand what and how exactly what they marked toxic took them to conclusion that 140 years ban was the right thingh to action like.
AIQ (NA)
: Go ahead and just do your next 5 games. Perhaps you are a unicorn and you do communicate, but you say nothing only ping. Then report back what actually happened. If anything beyond. INVADE!!! or BARON!!! was said (which can easily be communicated with pings). I also want to challenge that against the amount of hate and toxic chat during those 5 games. Do the analysis yourself, don't take my word for it.
actually you may not be totally right.. , because someone can tell you i have no mana , and if you don't check your enemy top mana , you go in and you die while he can't help you etc.. ,and he gets angry you not even notice his problems or that now he ask you to gank his lane . Further more you can be in the situation you not anymore imporving because of 0 feedback , as you will not be able to listen your team mates advices ,and you will perform exactly same over and over again ... , without to notice your mistakes and gameplay problems , now if you diamond or what ever the chat have his role , there most of people know the game and talk on subject regarding gameplay strategy and etc... So disabling chat at that level means you already separate yourself of your team , cutting the communication with them ,before you even find if they can be toxic or just some cool behaving team mates... . You are afraid of not getting angry because someone flames you , that means you have no self control , and you can't hold yourself chill/calm , which means Riot did something wrong with this disable chat function , what's the point to play a multiplayer game if you not even communicate , if i may ask ??/ , there are enought offline games which you can play if that's the problem for you "the communication".
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TheCrazyBoy (EUNE)
: Serious bug problem...
Any rioter who wants aditional info , journals or something , idk how to send them , i am not having any acces to support assistance system , as i haven't insult anyone , but they ban me because apparently if they ask me for my name of an account to discuss about ,is so ban able that i deserve ip ban ... , is just not okey.
: Riot has to be better when it comes to players intentionally ruining games
someone who obvious troll , not getting banned ,someone who intentional troll but not obvious ain't get banned ,so what does riot encourage us to do ??? , to keep ourself calm and respect every player who destroy our games, is so simple ... ,i been permanent banned because of such people , so what i had to learn from this ,that is okey to be "low" and troll grief games ,cause riot neither can decide to pull out low plays and gameplay out of ranked equation , oh god ,what will do our silver/bronze/iron players , idk maybe remove those tiers and make only gold , you pull x wins into provisional games you free to play ranked ,you play crap stay and play normal games or do a new account to play ranked , that's simple ,the ranked should start only from gold level , because it literally ain't warming anyone the fact he is bronze/silver/iron , i am literally pointing the true , what do you win if you finish the season silver/bronze/iron , one icon and some border , maybe a ward... , and that's it ... , nothing that mathers... , so why does exist low gameplay tiers?? , still have no clue how it can help people , they just incredible bad after they get out of iron/bronze/silver and find that gold is another piece of cake where them tricks which pull them out of silver/bronze/iron don't work there.. ,and sadly silver/bronze/iron , even gold tier creates 0 competivity into this game ,many mistakes ,frustrating games , not having any pleasure to play such games.
: yea , alot of people have. however what is being missed here is HISTORY OF BEHAVIOR if you recently come off a 14 day ban for whatever reason the next infraction even the slightest results in a perma ban. now as far as context to this as posted by the OP , as a stand alone offense should it be punished? would it be punished? no, most likely not. and i agree to that. no debate this isnt that bad at all. but once your account has been flagged for multiple punishments, and last was a recent 14 day ban the next infraction as small as it is will result in what happen here. im not for it or against it. its just what it is. and that is what i was explaining to the OP in my comments. yes in this chat he is flaming. not overly bad or that toxic but it is flame non the less
i was 3 months out of problems , without to have any past issues ... , even i control myself as much in those uncommon situation full of stress , i can assure you that someone else woulded over react if he woulded be in my place to have the pleasure of playing that game i played last time ,before i get permanent banned , and is not just that , there are 2 games chat logs , and the 2 nd game chat log have again non sense chat logs... , is just super super bad what they pull punishments for. And you think they should ban for almost no offenses people 140 years... , after 3 months and after i touch honor lv 1 , they never decreased my punishment level , neither in past , considering i was doing my best to learn to keep my patience under control in most stressful games you could deal with... , is just non sense how they push stronger punishments against you , and ignore the fact you don't go after just a few days to flame ,if there are 2 or 3 months between your last punishment , or even under 6 months... , you still get punished stronger , and is a fact , i can proof that... , is too simple , try of yourself to see how broken it is this system ... . It's an abuse on the fact that they pushing punishments stronger and stronger ,while there are 4-5 punishments only , and then they ban you permanent even if you did stayed most of your time positive and neutral , is not alright , and is not something what riot should push to do... , is not like is my fault that from time to time , i have stressful games which brokes my powers to tolerate others toxicity and missgameplay in past... , cause right now i am almost cured about everything else , but thurst me i haven't become a better man or player , i become something worse , and i am not proud and don't feel like i should be so , but Riot spended them attention to make me so a horrible person.
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Lęmon (NA)
: why is this getting downvoted..? I dont understand?? You literally weren't that much of an ass?? sure the "you just cry" part wasn't like g r e a t but seriously?? perma ban???? riots ban system is shit...sorry dude all the arguing,,people get so upset over nothing on the boards. It doesn't effect them yet they find the need to make themselves right. I dont know your ban history, or whatever but sorry dude. Sucks.
they not understand , as riot don't understand ,that is rubbish to ban people 140 years for such chat logs... , rip in peperoni for any guy who will dare to say something slightly negative after 14 days.. , they just ban people without sense ,while there are people who are much more toxic never got banned or detected.
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duvey (NA)
: If you legitimately believe that anything in this is ban worthy, you are 100% the problem with modern gaming culture and should never play video games with other people ever. You are a toxic cesspool where any valid criticism is met with rage and bawling tears that you just can't bear to hear from your teammates when you're playing the game poorly. Also, I'm a software engineer and I study machine learning, and the worst possible tasks for machine learning to tackle is contextual analysis, where a machine tries to identify the "intent" of a phrase or word. They're bad at it. Horrible. Absolutely dogshit and almost malicious in their intent. It's the reason why bots should never be banning people in any game ever.
any slight behaviour issue according to riot statments worth 140 years ban ... , because they not even care about your progress in honor system ,what kind of behaviour you had , is the next punishment there waiting for you , i know the best cause i wake up after 3 months since 14 days ban , with a permanent ban after touching honor lv 1 , because i "threat" a support autofill who was toxic +griefing+trolling whole game , with " replay submited to riot support" , that's the signal Riot have to perma ban people for 140 years, if you don't understand your punishment , neither do i ... , so just do what do others.. , i mean this game is full of grief/troll passive and nothing gets to be done.. , stop to control mistakes , and accept your mistakes as part of common gameplay ,because Riot accepts it's as being normal gameplay.
: I think they wanted to include rewards for all players. People who exclusively play TFT will have no use for the skin shards and Blue/Orange Essence. The chest will also be pretty meaningless unless they get an emote form it. Most of the rewards are aimed at people who play League, day 4 is the only one aimed at TFT, and you can still use it in ARAM if you don't play TFT. It's a ton of free shit still, I'm not complaining, lol.
> [{quoted}](name=TheUrbanKitsune,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=vr8lOvo7,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-19T17:24:33.028+0000) > > I think they wanted to include rewards for all players. > People who exclusively play TFT will have no use for the skin shards and Blue/Orange Essence. The chest will also be pretty meaningless unless they get an emote form it. > Most of the rewards are aimed at people who play League, day 4 is the only one aimed at TFT, and you can still use it in ARAM if you don't play TFT. > > It's a ton of free shit still, I'm not complaining, lol. TFT just came out this last year .... , i wasn't in mind to complain , but i can't play TFT due to some serious bugs ... , and i reported them , nothing been done regarding that. Essence is still okey , maybe they do in future , eggchest of easter ,idk and you will unlock stuffs on Orange essence from hextech inventory , who knows.
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: No wonder you dont want him nerfed, past 7 days of games are both games you played with him this week you won.
well , but that dosn't make any sense , i am main adc , and i do believe garen can be countered ... , if there aren't monkeys to feed him ,then you definetly will win the game ,same happen when you play vs darius or any other strong melee champion... Why do you think that i claim that garen isn't that op??? , he is having serious issues vs shywana,darius,karma,urgot etc... , i will not stay to describe you how easy he can be defeated , but that dosn't follow your expectetion , because your thoughts is that he is op... ,beside the fact he have a simple kite ,and you can understand garen pretty fast what's the segment he plays ,what he have to do ... , so if you have slow and cc champions ,garen will most likely no last long , and he would be useless whole the game ... , so rather than having a darius , or renekton , or irelia/ornn/gnar top , better you have an enemy garen ... , because is much more simple to counter him.
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: Really i think some of the people get banned for things that dont even seem that bad
yeah after 5 years , some of Na people figured out this... , eune/euw board is still at the level where they laught of everyone who gets punished ... ,and they happy to get IFS messages , guess menthality really mathers in regions , i wish there could be more mature people in this game ... , and limited acces for new players until they grow up... Yeah leave the kids to play this game ,but pls deny competivity modes to people who are under 18 years old , it should make sense ,as there is not a single guy who is under 18 years old in esports teams.
: I've played sports almost my entire life, and none of that casual stuff either. The ones where you need to go to tryouts each year and be evaluated to get on the best teams. I played soccer, baseball, and a bit of hockey, and I can assure you that if you were not having a good day, you would either be benched and forced to watch for most if not all of the game, or be forced to be the reason you're team is losing, **which in person is a lot more embarrassing and makes you feel a lot worse than in a video game where said person can just hide behind a monitor without a care in the world.** I don't understand why talking trash in a video game is a bannable offense in the slightest and I am genuinely curious as to your reply to this, because I am open-minded about most things, but nothing I have seen has made me second guess my thinking. I grew up on xbox live chat rooms and real life sports, and of course the xbox live chat rooms were more toxic in general with the trash talking, but you severely underestimate how much of a %%%% some parents/kids are when it comes to real life sports. Calling someone a worthless piece of shit should not be bannable, and I am astounded that it currently is. If you are sensitive enough that a random stranger on the internet calling you bad is enough for you to not want to play, maybe just stick to casuals and not join a competitive environment where people are trying to win and will get mad if you are doing poorly, and are the reason they are losing. I have been on the receiving end of this toxicity, and of course it can be disheartening, especially so when the entire team is ganging up on you like a fucking hive, but not once have I quit playing a game because someone in one of my games was being mean to me. I mained healer in Overwatch, where people would go on voice comms and yell curse words constantly if you decided to heal someone more important than them. Despite being called a stupid bitch e-thot in more than 50% of my games, I still hit the top 0.1%, because most of the time, if you are being toxic in chat, you are still going to play the game and try, and it was very often that I'd have the same person that called me a worthless piece of shit, say "wow good ult" later on (although most just end up shutting up and not flaming anymore).
being toxic => you get punished being slightly negative => you get punished being sometimes slightly negative after 3 months let's say => you get punished with even a stronger punishment... doing poorly plays => not guilty , no punishments being positive neutral in chat , playing poorly or griefing /trolling your team => not guilty , move one play more games being a guy who lost his interest to win games due to much toxicity /trollers/griefers => well who cares about the fact you play or not for win . being indifferent about wins => not guilty for lossing games , not guilty that you not pull in a team game to win the game . Well , guess season 3-4-5 been the real gold, people who was touching back then gold , wouldn't touch it with trash scores , wouldn't push negative scores every day , you wasn't meeting every day people who grief/troll ,neither people that toxic as tend to be nowadays... . So what really changed??? Where is the improvment ,because most of us can't see it Riot Games company ??? ,i do happen to see how punishments can make more worse ,because as i consider myself punished for nothing permanently , that raised myself to be an extremly trash player and deny all my experience i been gathering among the years i played this game... I do happen to know ,how much a guy who dosn't do anything can impact a game, and when he does that intentionally or not .... , dosn't mather it just affects the outcome of your game ,which is a competitive game , that's the problem because riot tends to say we forgive you if you had a bad game , but does your players forgive the people who played poorly and screw up them game , i don't think so , but we have no right to punish those people , because they bring money into Riot pocket , and cause they are under 18 Years old...
: I missed you all
Your IFS , no detect anyone ... , not even can handle to detect flame , uncommon discussion are more likely to not even be detected by IFS , if someone is toxic in new ways of standing to say something. IFS is under any limits of doing it's job ,and also people who flame out of IFS system knowdledge will probably never ever be detected... , as the machines can't be a human eye working. Automatic systems ,work only in the systems where the work have to be done repeatly , the chat language isn't repeating that much , you can change 1234567890 any letter of a word and still flame.
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8Belthazor8 (EUNE)
: How exactly wasn't Garen viable before these buffs? He had 50.46% win rate in diamond+. I would say that is viable enough. Now Garen players make excuses for him and want to convince everyone that his 53-54% win rate in high elo is healthy and Garen is balanced now. His win rates were 53% in low elo before this patch now it is 56% in every low elo.
well, he told you already low elo , would loss anyway against any champion ... , if you play it good and get feeded and they miss kills and die a lot , that wouldn't mak sense to mather his winrate low elo. High elo ,garen can be extremly easy countered , they know to play safe ,have patience , junglers are making ganks a lot , there is much more than just garen in a high elo game... , there is a whole skilled team , and you can't assume based on some numbers that he needs to be nerfed ... ,it makes no sense , why you shouldn't be able to win games if your enemy is playing weak , you should say hey i got 2-3 kills early because that guy had no patience to wait his jungler or to keep distance of me , let's give him the win , he dosn't deserve , let's nerf garen because is too op ... , right ?? , is that how it should work ?? , if you get feeded by enemy and let's say you play a champion who is strong 1vs1 early , and people feed you ... , is your fault that you gain advantage and beat him over and over again ... . I seen people who was rather going for farm than keeping distance , and they were hited by skills ,got hp loss , then they got back for farm , and well ofc they died , you have flash , ignite and q and e when you jump with flash on him he can't flash away , so is simple kill secure if you do that.... ,flash isn't there all the time available for you ,and there are enought champions who can 1 vs 1 with garen early and mid game without stress . I let you figure out and find how to counter garen , please learn what counters garen , then come back and complain about garen , to see if you didn't find at least 7-8-10 picks to counter garen then i will agree with your opinnion ,but if there are champions who can beat him and put him behind , then recognize that you mistaken , and that he dosn't deserve any nerf. I already have my list , because i know what i would play vs enemy. if they would have garen.
Quáx (NA)
: Garen is the apitmay of an unfun and interactive champ in top. Hey let me go cs a minion Oh garen is running at me faster than me and hits me with a Q Oh shit that did a lot of damage I should use my abilities to run, fight back, or maybe even flash if it does that much damage(which it does later in the game) What's that? Oh I'm silenced and cant use any of my abilities and now he's spinning on me doing damage Oh finally the silence dropped and my flash is up I can get away and CC him whats that? Oh he clicked a button and basically cleansed it and now my abilities deal no damage and now hes tower diving me at full hp taking no dmg because Garen Oh he clicked a button and deleted a 4th of my hp and now I'm dead MAN, I COULDVE REALLY OUTPLAYED THAT. Seriously. I'm pretty zen and optimistic when it comes to playing league but this I just don't understand, He gets a point and click silence, Tenacity, a shield, basically, a cleanse on his W, a point and click execute, a self heal passive, consistent damage, and hes super easy. I don't understand why these stats are the way they are. Garens kit as a whole is pretty unhealthy and these nerfs are beyond deserving.
same way works and yi and any other bruiser you aproach if you squishy... , if you no counter pick is obvious you will loss vs him , because that's natural... , his ultimate have incredible low range. And by the way garen have normal win rate... according to numbers, he is in the balanced spot , as his winrate in high elo is slighty over 50%... , so that means there are equal chances for him to loss games.. , the problem is that most of you not even readed or played him to understand how he works and what he do , as you sayd you not even knowed that when you silenced you can't use flash... . Try of yourself to play a gnar with ghost and poke garen a lot ,see if it works ,or urgot on conquer beats him hard ,recently i lost a game vs a shywana... , she was too powerful on conquer ,more than garen... . I tell you after garen gets nerfed , people will find to complain about urgot ,or shywana on conquer.. , if you get so salty and tell riot what to do ,they will never understand how to balance the game... , because they hear everyone screaming about something , when it may not be that much true...
: Funny how the majority of people that are whining about Riot noticing their mess-up are people who are abusing Garen for some freelo. Guys, get this in your head, Garen, with today's kit, shouldn't EVER be a treat everyone can pick on Diamond+, because Garen is literally the easiest champion in the game to pick up and play. If that's what Riot wants from the champion and that's their reason for keeping their kit, then he should NEVER, EVER be as viable as he is in high elo right now, that spot should be reserved for the one-tricks or people that really know him well. Why? Because he is so EZ to both play and counter, that if he becomes dangerous in high elo, that means something in his number stats is wrong, and he is clearly unbalanced. Sucks? Yeah, sucks to suck too mate, literally either git gud at Garen as he is meant to be, a tank, or learn something that takes a slightly, even the smallest bit of hands. {{sticker:sg-lulu}}
sometimes a easy champions rise difficulty to play it , exemple katarina , master yi ... , every champion is unique.. , yes garen is that kind of hero who case after targets like darius does.... , he should be viable ... , i played vs shywana top and she was beating hard my ass ,so there are enought champions to counter him , he is where it is right now and he is alright. And what ever you sayd ,about people abusing garen ... , i can play kassadin and smash gold,bronze ,silver hard , then they will ask for kassadin nerf.. , people will always complain when lossing after they feeded enemy... , now garen is in that spot ,where a kill mathers for him , extremly much as he takes item advantage and becomes faster that front line which teams need it.. And let's be honest ,everyone else who haven't played garen , just talk about him , not even played him ,to even know every one of his abilitys cooldwons , his skills what perks have... ,cause is not just about damage , what range has his ultimate and more , and i bet you have no ideea ,correct me if i am wrong... , but go ahead take garen and read his skills , then you will understand how garen works and how you have to play vs him ... There are so many champions who are op with conquer , but yeah let's complain about garne to be nerfed ... , that dosn't make any sense... , you complain about garen , when darius ,shywana ,wukong ,fiora can do this as well with conquer , and there is and urgot which extremly beats you hard on 1 vs 1. So are you going to tell me that just garen is overpowered ,just because his playerbase rate pick increased and people succed to win games with it because they have skill and them enemy feed them ,having no ideea how to play vs garen or patience to deal with him. If you tell me that a garen who takes kills no deserve to win ,if he succed to kill 2-3 guys early and then get items , then you obvious not understand what means to balance a champion , if you good and your enemy feed you , ofc you will be strong and have high win rate and win games... as you get ahead...
: Bring Us Your Bugs!! Celebrating 10 Years of LoL
#fix matchmaking is a bug out there... , too much grief and troll
: Bring Us Your Bugs!! Celebrating 10 Years of LoL
A MEGA HUGE BUG ,read this When i have rj-45 and pass on my laptop to wi-fi , i can't reconnect to the game ,while i am still in the game... ,just because i switch my connection , can you fix that , or is not necesary... , so i can play this game on what ever connection i want... , if i am on wi-fi and i want to pass on rj-45 cause of wi-fi spikes of lags , i can't do that without to quit the game and reconnect back. I CAN RECORD PROOF
: > [{quoted}](name=TheCrazyBoy,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=7EsFo0pe,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-15T13:45:28.913+0000) > > rip ranked rewards... , i haven't got a punishmet in years... , got almost lv 4 honor and got burned for not even swearing cause "toxicity" , weirds what means toxicity to riot , after 7-8 years of good behaviour idk if that's look cool to gain lv1 honor for standing more than others honorable... , i mean what's the point i lost so much time to be honorable and they just delete all the progress to lv 1 ... , lower than i even start in honor level this season to play. Beats having your account for 8 years no problems then this season gets perna banned because someone else was flaming you. And because I responded, I’m toxic and should have my account banned. Solid systen.
well that dosn't justify , why you are treat equal to others toxic players ,who have reached only lv honor 2 .... , basically when you get punished ,your honor lv should decrease with 1 lvl ,so who stands more much positive have the advantage because he standed much more honorable than others... , there are likely 3 months to advance a honor level.
Speeedy (NA)
: there shouldn't be a penalty for how "easy" or "hard" a champion. Every champion should be viable at high elo
yes indeed , i played kassadin after years and years of not playing it , and i perform 17 9 with him ,does that makes him broken ,nope , just people no know to play vs him. Basically champions who are easy to play means them kite gameplay is simple , so that means they ain't that complex and that them actions and how they play is basic same... , a garen can be easy countered if is more easy to play , for exemple yi not even stand that much chances high elo ,because they pick cc against him ,and he becomes pretty much nothing . Also udyr as simple as it looks dosn't get viable high elo... , if garen got played high elo , is them problem , but he is easy to be countered , just they pick it because is perfect front liner and have some damage now.. ,that's the reason garen is played high elo... , otherwise they would just play gnar/ornn/irelia/sion in high elo.
: > [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YwUIrPn4,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-10-15T13:39:45.869+0000) > > Well....Winrate is actually pretty irrelevant at Master+, as long as it's not reaching absurd values. Pickrate and banrate are the primary metrics of strength there. > > Although, for Garen, that's almost 27% combined, which is...pretty big. > > Interestingly enough, though, both of those plummet come Challenger. I guess Master is now low elo :P there are not many people playing garen in challenger just like he has 0% win rate in iron as he has only 2 games sample size 460 sample size for masters 55% 550 sample size in grandmasters 48% 270 sample size in challenger 44% but lets say diamond where he has 52.6% win rate it's from 20k games or plat where he has 54% from 70k games those win rates are quite significant
no they aren't , winrate dosn't means that if you skilled and reach more than 50% winrate the hero is overbuffed... , is balanced actually , because it dosn't have to be in 50% winrate ... , if you just better then you win .. , that's all , if there is 55% winrate ,still 45% of games people finded how to beat garen and to win against him , which is very much considering ... his situation
: ***
you know they losse more than they win with that winrate... Even in diamond you win less than you loss , and that winrate is nothing ,when you notice that there are skilled players who play each against each other... , you know if he haves that 55% winrate ,still means that he is pretty much balanced ,imagine that only a main garen would actually be better than the rest and reach a higher winrate... , and that's not all , win rate dosn't mean a hero is broken , imagine kassadin low elo would beat hard enemy team , high elo is also op... , and i don't think that you understand how balance works... , is based on the champion role ,and what he have to do and where he have to be strong ,he definetly need that strength as front line to deal damage and put pressure over enemy if he plays good and win early , you would want him to loss ,because you think that garen is overbuffed??? , they should perform less to keep 50% winrate or what's the problem ????
8Belthazor8 (EUNE)
: Balanced? How exactly a 0 skill champion is balanced with 53-54% win rate in high elo??? Even skill based champions are considered OP with those win rates. Garen is a champion made directly for noobs, for the purpose to let them have fun while they are learning the basics, not to be played in high elo. He should never see even 50% win rate in high elo.
champions ain't balanced due to win rate.. ,because i can have 60% on a champion because i am good, that's my % of skill regarding how good i played and performed ... , for exemple i do have 86% winrate ,as i played my provisionals on a unranked account from 7 games played, but i worked hard for my wins ,and had to carry , even lost 1 game as garen because i had 7 30 bot lane team mates... Win rate for exemple is around 53-54% but plays like mine ,raise that win-rate higher... , people in high elo know to play champions ,to play them good ,if they don't have more than 50% winrate with a hero they would demote , you know why ?? , they win 14 lp and lose 20 lp ... , so they performing constantly them best ,beside that there are players who know to play vs garen , and believe me that you haven't seen so many diamonds ,master,grandmaster,challenger players to complain about garen ,expecially when is not a complex champion , so most of those champions like master yi ,teemo , udyr ,garen due to them simple kite aren't played high elo ,because of being simple to counter and to win against them. I don't know if you will ever understand, but people just have to learn to play against him , i believe 100% that i could beat a garen top lane if i would face to play vs him , and i would coordinate my team picks in the ideea that we need more cc and much more slow control over him , the rest is simple , garen if dosn't reach the target dosn't land conquer , dosn't get rehealed , dosn't even have so much escape... , if he gets stunned , so he dies quick , for exemple a veigar + vayne would beat garen as hell , veigar cage + vayne e and w armor ignored... , pretty easy to be taked down. http://prntscr.com/pjlq83 P.S: I don't sustain this ideea because i have 86% winrate , is because i feel he is in the right spot and is definetly much more based on the skill of the player , because if people not understand and ain't know his cooldowns on skill ,and range of the skills, they will find hard to play vs garen. If the winrate is 53-54% considering there are the best players in high elo , then believe me is balanced as champion , the only problem is that low elo haven't learned to play vs garen. So garen deserves to win , if enemy no know to play vs him , is simple . You do mistakes die early ,feed garen , and you expect then that enemy garen shouldn't win , or i don't get what other reason you would find... , zed feeded ,or any other hero feeded isn't strong and win the game ??? , so same is garen , is not his fault that enemy don't play proper or safe when they get low hp. Most of his win-rate in all tiers and divisions ,is due to the fact that people not knowing the hero that proper , haven't learned his range of skills , his ultimate range , how and what his skills does ,behind the animations of skills there is much more behind garen , garen skills have special effects , which you will not be able to understand until you play 1 game as him ,and learn to play garen vs enemy , and then learn what counters garen when you losse as garen.
3minence (OCE)
: 55% bronze to gold 54% plat 52.6% diamond 54.9% masters Note that he still has a massive WR in masters. Those players know what they're doing. He is clearly NOT balanced mate.
you compare apples with bananas .... Dude you remember kassadin being extremly op as bruiser/mage... ,well i play kassadin and he deletes bronze,silver and gold . You must understand that Riot wasn't buffing garen because he wasn't needing it ... ,he have a small range for his ultimate , he have to dive frontline and he tank a lot of damage , is hard for him to even escape if you have cc and focus him , or gank and hold top lane under control. The ideea is that garen have a simple kite , is very difficult for him to chase kills, he wins because of pasive trades.. , that's why he have this win rate . Good players will know to play him , while someone who play garen as smurf in gold silver bronze will smash enemy hard because he knows to play and is simple to play as kite , you just use spells and take enemy down ... , is not that complex ,but he is pretty much okey .. , believe me , who ever cryed about garen beeing overpowered haven't understand how to play vs him , didn't payed attention on top to make ganks , or to pick champions who can beat him.. This game is not only abouy winrate... , for exemple there are players who have over 60% winrate in diamond ,master, challenger with some champions , and there are players who have that winrate into low elo too , so that dosn't mean the hero is broken .. Try to understand that garen , is pretty much very exposed when he wants to kill someone ,because if he is frontline he will get focused and killed once he gets cc catched... , is same when we talk about yi , or any other champion who can be and bruiser and tanky... . Garen deserves his buff , and if they nerf him ,or reverse the change will not be anymore played ,and that means it's just pointless then.... , i want to have heroes who are fun to play ... , who annoy noobs who can't play vs it , as i sayd is no one fault that you guys cry playing something else and not even understand how garen works and what his skill do ... , if you would at least know ,then you would find out how to play vs him , but sadly you haven't yet ,because that's why you keep stand here crying about his buff.
Comentários de Rioters
Preator (NA)
: Thank you Riot
rip ranked rewards... , i haven't got a punishmet in years... , got almost lv 4 honor and got burned for not even swearing cause "toxicity" , weirds what means toxicity to riot , after 7-8 years of good behaviour idk if that's look cool to gain lv1 honor for standing more than others honorable... , i mean what's the point i lost so much time to be honorable and they just delete all the progress to lv 1 ... , lower than i even start in honor level this season to play.
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: You know why Overwatch kind of works for CSGO? Because it is actually easier to determine troll/griefing more easily. Meanwhile, the League community can't even agree what is or isn't. A more recent example is that Nubrac "mid support teemo" thing. Some say troll, others say off meta. KDA isn't a good measurement per se either. Too many people ree about someone being 0/7 and ignoring the assists or objectives they grabbed.
they will see a 2 12 player , oh okey that's troll ... ,and then he gets banned 14 days ,and contact riot , and says why did you ban me 14 days , i lost time , i been banend for nothing , why do you leave a random guy to abuse your punishing system and my time. That's a first exemple , imagine everyone have his own view about what is grief ,what is troll ,what is wintrade , if let's say one guy is a top laner ,and he follows a jungler , if he does have negative experiences regarding how junglers played in his game ,he can revenge over people who jungle and played horrible , because is a subjective mather of how they would judge the case.. , if you main adc and you see a guy who plays horrible support , you will tend to resonate with that and remove your neutrality when it comes to punish him. Now imagine cs-go have no positions... , no one cares what others do ,as long as they pull some kills or not... ,and even throught that , you can easy go 1 vs 5 clutch , as others damage enemy and you have more chances to repair other deaths... , while in league of legends you can't exactly do that as enemy can kill your allies and go to reheal... , so is harder for you to carry behind the fact you are a good player. P.S: this is an exemple on what you mention.
Comentários de Rioters
: Garen has currently a 55.92 win rate mid and a 55.50% win rate top
low elo , and high elo should find how to play vs garen ,rather than complain ,and make garen back to nothing ... , before this patch garen was not even in a metha..., now it is , yeah is a frontliner , but he can get counter by slow abilitys and cc , same as any other front liner and champion tanky.. If you don't stay near garen then you will not feel his strength , same apply when you play vs renekton , jax,darius ,fiora ,irelia , you don't complain about them , because they been keeped in metha and you learned to play vs them... , but you haven't learned to play vs garen. Few ideeas how to counter garen , urgot is a strong champion against garen ,also jax well played on good trades... , there is lissandra who slows and can use r , and she can also use e to escape ... , there is gnar also a strong combo champion , sion cc and damage , nasus slow which makes garen useless as he can't move to reach any target , and there is more what awaits people to find , for exemple i would counter extremly hard garen with a jinx adc pick , or i would pick malzahar mid , is extremly simple how you can counter him ... . Give it a chance ,learn to play vs him ,then complain about his strength ... , you will see he is same as is darius when he is close to a target or jax or renekton ,irelia,fiora , you complain actually about a melee champion , when you have so many tools to counter play him... , you even can ban him , and that's not all , you just complain instant because actually garen got in metha ,being able to perform good with him , is not garen fault that players no know to deal with him ... , if you will learn to play vs him , you will laught so hard on him being useless ... , if you will underestimate him , and you will not fight him proper ,and you will not pick champions to make his life harder , then feel free to complain about every champion.... You remember katarina ultimate old katarina ,was insane , years in row she been same , and still she does get powerfull if people dosn't build cc team... , same apply vs garen , so is not his fault that you just not building your team according to enemy picks .
: You can dodge his throw. Garen Q removes all slows. In general though if you get hit by a champions cc, you already weren't meant to get away from them at that point.
well , there are champions who outplay hard garen, like jinx e and basics range , and there is gnar who also can be extremly powerful vs garen , played around walls combo . Garen can't do anything if he dosn't risk himself in front line... , if he gets cc ed or slowed down , he can't do nothing ,is that kind of champion who you have to keep distance far away of him , likely you have to keep of darius q... , and slow and e ... , he is kind of okey ,but the low elo complains because they don't understand how to counter garen and how to play against him , i don't think he is overpowered , because he is a bruiser , same is darius and he can do much more than garen used to do before this buff.. , finally garen now feels like you can pull plays with him , they anyway plan to give top laners much more strength from what they announce... , so i feel like garen haven't received a buff in a long time , his r range is so small , he also can have problems to play vs rammus , and a good ornn player in team fights and much more... I believe people just ain't prepared to deal with garen that's why low elo complains about garen nerf , and to be honest ,i don't even understand why would a diamond , master , challenger ,grandmaster complain about garen , where there are so many options to counter garen as a team or alone , there is ryze who just can root him and bash him and gain shield , or idk you can play lissandra vs him , the slows will make him impossible to win the lane , karma is strong top laner as well , i haven't tested her after the q scale nerf ,but i still believe she could be extremly good vs garen , also heimerdinger turrets would counter him easy.. , or a jax with good runes , i seen a jax who was beating my ass as garen ,he was full combo dealing me a lot. There is also sion,swainn, nasus which could counter him , nasus slows him a lot.. , and also sion have strong cc , swainn can slow him a lot and his r is also strong
: For Season 10 - Riot needs to be honest with themselves about the state of matchmaking.
i suggested a system which allows only players who are honor lv 2 + to play ranked , since the rewards are only for honorable players ,makes sense that any toxic behaviour of any kind shouldn't be present and allowed to play ranked , is my own opinnion , and i think it will reduce very much the amount of toxicity of any ways , people will be much more calm and point out who does grief , who does troll , and once they get banned bye ranked games for 3 months , you toxic and raising toxicity into your team ,bye ranked 3 months . Every new player in ranked needs an enviroment where he can focus on improving himself , rather than see how everyone flames around when he dosn't do that well . I would love if they change the promo helper ,in a way it dosn't allows people who no deserve to abuse it and climb upper ... , in that way only people who actually work hard will benefit promo helper , if you entry series advance ranked with 1 tier , then if you demote you will have the right to have 1 promo help win... , if you loss series , then the promo helper will be disabled ,until you advance further a division and you experience a demote again... , it sound more healthy and much more quality control focused.
8Belthazor8 (EUNE)
: I'd trade a Garen nerf for a Jax nerf anytime
urgot is way more broken than garen, just play a game garen vs urgot with conquest on runes... , is just so annoying , you can't outplay him at all with garen... , he is so giant hp punishing you i think champions who are like that can counter garen... . Maybe mordekaiser rumble can counter garen , so far i played a few games garen vs urgot and it was so damn annoying... How do you win vs urgot ??? , he is tanky , and that e cdr 0 ... + lifesteal so much... , i seen an urgot with death's dancer was impossible to kill him... , he was pushing without problems. Unlimited e time and no mana cost on him makes urgot look broken... , he have range attack , also have mana and not even use it ... ,since they changed urgot e...
Rαy (EUW)
: Riot's Balance Team on Blitzcrank 2
i would make his q grab to scale on upgrades as range... , or maybe i would give it much more strength , like he shouldn't miss grabs if he grab: ezreal tristana , such champions like tristana and ezreal have no real problems when it comes about defensive part vs blitzcrank . It's not fair because who ever plays ashe/jinx/lucian/jhin/kai'sa dosn't benefit of such defense mechanism , you got grab by blitzcrank , then yeah you deserve to die... , is simple and it should be like this ... if you don't use w or e to dodge completly his r... , then they should be grabed by blitzcrank. Disable that option for noobs... please riot ... , is critical for you to do that.. . I would add his grab a cdr reduce as a second chance to improve him ... ,but in exchange of his q revert to base range.. , so if he grab a target he gets reduce cdr on his q ... , that could look plays in plays ,like thresh works . Or you could make blitz to act with reverse.. , if he q a target if he activates q again he position near the target with his arm.. ,so he can aproach to engage and to make grabs, something like he grab enemy , if he wants to gain position he activate as quick as he can q again and moves to the target current position , having posibility to use e or r ,in this way , he can be good for engages and for going around his targets silence enemy before a full ornn or malphite engage, maybe slow with randuin omen's and then wait for his team to kill enemy... . Are a few ideeas i been thinking about.
8Belthazor8 (EUNE)
: I'd trade a Garen nerf for a Jax nerf anytime
garen ... as garen ,but i played garen vs urgot ,and urgot was so broken on conquerer... , so why some other champions can be themself and garen can't..
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