GilxeN (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Alx Neo Da,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1PE67TJA,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2019-09-17T09:10:31.774+0000) > > How's irelia meta ? I barely see her anymore in my games and even when i see her she sucks and unable to win games, She has lowest win rate in game across all elo with 44 % in master + Irelia is pretty much gutted, useless top, useless mid, idk where she is actually useful, only a niche pick to counter certain champs. THANKS pro plays...
Exacly, her teamfight potential got gutted, She lose lane to most of toplaner and counter picking her is bacly auto win against her, She easy to gank, She suck at split pushing, She cant deal with adc, All what she have left honesly is lvl 2 power spike all in which realiticly, if u die to irelia lvl 2, U just bad
: Champion pool getting smaller and smaller when its getting bigger and bigger
How's irelia meta ? I barely see her anymore in my games and even when i see her she sucks and unable to win games, She has lowest win rate in game across all elo with 44 % in master +
: spear of shojin solo makes jax actually stupid to face in many teamfight scenarios
One of league biggest lies is jax is late game champ Who strugle in laning phase, Im pretty sure he win lane against 65 % of current mele toplaner. Its maybe true that he lose to range champ but realisiticly every toplane champ lose to range mage champ because they are broken and role is trash
: Why does illoi even exist in game ?
I never have to deal with her because honesly when ever i see her, I just insta dodge for near all season now, I fighted her once in early season, She miss her E, i tryed to all in her with riven, She press and spam w and bascly 3 shooted me from 70 % hp, From that moment i told my self this last time i ever face this shitt
: Because jinx pick rates halves once you get past platinum, and her WR also decreases. And she also sees as much pro play as jhin, which is about 0. So shes literally a low elo solo queue champ, exactly like MF is. Do you think MF needs nerfs now? No? Yeah, same with jinx.
I just told u she's has 20 % pick rate in plat + with almost 54 %, Thats not enough of pick rate ?
Comentários de Rioters
Kovorix (EUW)
: Probably because losing is today is way more frustrating then in previous seasons. When you lose today you will get bursted down again and again and again without any chance to do something against it.
Exacly, Lets say u facing kled in toplane, He 1st blood u and have demolish So he shoved wave and got plat, Thats near 600 gold lead. Game is over at that point for toplaner specialy with how broken kled and his passive, He can 1v2 you with ur jgl for rest of game
: "**Just because you have 112 MR doesn't mean you get to face tank all of a mage's spells.** " Dude that's like... what resistances are bought for... Plus, I don't understand what is this "tank meta" obsessive fear y'all seem to have. Tanks have literally been unviable for **years** now. The last time a toplane tank was consistently played in competitive was what, season 6? Wouldn't it be a bit of a frustration if an entire class, let's say mages or adcs, were to be unviable for multiple years?
Wasnt sion last season pick or bann auto win for near all season 8 and before him mundo before he got gutted. Even this season for near 4 patchs tahm kench was broken thing ever ? Tell me if im wrong
Ñaofumi (NA)
: This is exactly why people play mobile cancer or things that can 1v2, they have actual agency in lane and often have huge map priority as far as bot lane roams go. When your an immobile mage mid and is far behind a mobile laner / someone that got a massive tent, you just sit back and play safe while praying your team doesnt feed
Thats exacly why riven, Atrox, Jax, Rene are strong pick right now, This champ have power to turn fight into 2 v1
: If your top and bot are losing when the enemy jungler camps you at mid then they have at least 3 better players than your team has and they are those who are carrying the duo that is 2v1ing you mid. If your team is overall bad than of course you lose. But have you even tried to count how many games you lost because your jungler ignored 2 of your lanes? Or counted how many games you won because enemy jungler ignored 2 lanes? The whole OP post is just wrong and makes no sense.
xDD, if u met xin or khazix in river, He can run u down at all stage of game
: I wholeheartedly agree. The impact JGL can have on midlane if they choose to is absolutely disgusting - to a point where I feel like I'm forced to play 'ungankable" Champions to have a tiny bit of fun in the game... The biggest issue is you have no way as a laner (and especially a midlaner) to punish the JGL for camping you. And you have little tools to avoid dying in a towerdive. Even if you manage to take one with you it's still a massive loss since the other takes plates and you loose even more Farm and EXP... Due to mana regen being gutted attacking the enemy JGL on a gank is loss-loss for you. You loose mana to farm and trade, you loose the CDs to prevent the enemy laner from trading... and worst of all, the enemy JGL doesn't give a **** about the DMG, he smites the god damn crab, eats a fruit and is back to full live!!! ---------------- I feel like JGL Susutain (both MANA AND HEALTH) needs to go down DRASTICLY. There is no reason for a JGL without in-kit sustain to back to full life from farming... And clear times of camps needs to go up! [Gank mid, take two camps, gank mid, take crab, gank mid... the amount of time necessary to do this is insanly small] Important: I don't think JGL income in generall needs to be nerfed. Gold and EXP from camps would need to be buffed to compensate the losses... But one thing NEEDS to chance - JGL should NEVER be able to TRADE for their LANERS! Ganking without gettinga single summoner/kill should be punished! It needs to be a loss for the JGL! Sure - in theory it should be a loss since seeing the enemy JGL should open up opportunitys for the rest of your team but... we all know the reality...
Thats my point exacly, Jungler can do full clear and get out from jgl near 80 % hp and then go afk camping lane, Most camp lane by far in this is toplane and seconde is midlane and in the current meta, Once u fall behind, There's no coming back and it sucks since players are force to bascly play rng if either my jgl gank me and i win or enemy jgl camp and i lose or relie on other to carry me since im behind and my impact not existant
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TTg VIper (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Arcade Lulu,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=vY2u10sE,comment-id=00000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-08-22T14:03:34.922+0000) > > Yes i'm a supp main. How does that change anything? > It's not just "few wards" it's 29 wards, most people don't put that many wards down > You say that she was running it down sidelanes and jg, but most of her deaths are in mid, which could be the result of team fighting > > i don't know what happened in the game, so i'm not gonna say anything as facts > If you really want to, you can send a ticket to riot supp and get them banned surely Didnt hashinshin him self got bann bc of similar kda, now u justifiying her clear intentionaly feeding with warding ? Seriously the power and love that supp main get is insane
> [{quoted}](name=TTg VIper,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=vY2u10sE,comment-id=000000000000000000010001,timestamp=2019-08-22T14:32:55.608+0000) > > Didnt hashinshin him self got bann bc of similar kda, now u justifiying her clear intentionaly feeding with warding ? Seriously the power and love that supp main get is insane If that was in any other role and i would say specialy jungl or toplane or any popular streamer, He would get insta bann the minute they file the report if they had that same exact kda But a supp inter sona player Wont, Its fine if they ward and die, Better botlane wins anyway
Jesi Oni (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Darkdynamix,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=vY2u10sE,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-22T13:56:38.416+0000) > > U telling me bc of few wards can cover up that simple the fact that she end up game with 1/19 when she was letarly run it down sidelane and enemy jgl, U are either supp main or troll like her and if u dont belive me, watch replay of game You will be banned for being toxic faster that this support so chill and play instead of crying on the boards.
> [{quoted}](name=Jesi Oni,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=vY2u10sE,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-22T14:01:41.497+0000) > > You will be banned for being toxic faster that this support so chill and play instead of crying on the boards. I guess this's what league season 9 has become, The trollers and inters that buy riot prestige skins can do what ever and clearly run it down with out any punish but There's nothing u could do and if u respond to them or talk about, U get bann for "toxicity". Realy sad what league has become this days
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Darkdynamix,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=vY2u10sE,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-22T13:56:38.416+0000) > > U telling me bc of few wards can cover up that simple the fact that she end up game with 1/19 when she was letarly run it down sidelane and enemy jgl, U are either supp main or troll like her and if u dont belive me, watch replay of game Yes i'm a supp main. How does that change anything? It's not just "few wards" it's 29 wards, most people don't put that many wards down You say that she was running it down sidelanes and jg, but most of her deaths are in mid, which could be the result of team fighting i don't know what happened in the game, so i'm not gonna say anything as facts If you really want to, you can send a ticket to riot supp and get them banned surely
> [{quoted}](name=Arcade Lulu,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=vY2u10sE,comment-id=00000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-08-22T14:03:34.922+0000) > > Yes i'm a supp main. How does that change anything? > It's not just "few wards" it's 29 wards, most people don't put that many wards down > You say that she was running it down sidelanes and jg, but most of her deaths are in mid, which could be the result of team fighting > > i don't know what happened in the game, so i'm not gonna say anything as facts > If you really want to, you can send a ticket to riot supp and get them banned surely There's not fact can justifie dying 19 time but there's the fact that despise warding or not, She's clearly inted early game but when she sow her team winning, She decide to help them but it was way too far and behind at that point
: Pretty shocking to see Riot not even talking to us anymore.
I feel like nothing has change in this preseason beside the new tower plating which was very supportive for the burst 5 v5 deathball festa been forced all sea8 so my guessing is that seas9 wont be any difference, my actualy be worst
: Most of the community is just straight up asking for zed buffs saying he is too weak. I have been saying it forever tweak the dude he is not weak, but needs clear strengths and weaknesses.
His strengths >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>then his weakness lvl 8 can press r aa e aa ignite and its kill, but in zed main mind, they are thinking why i couldnt do that lvl 6 or 3 or 4, Damn im too weak
: The problem with Zed mains that people think he is weak is simple. He needs a rework and I say this, because zed usually controls everything in lane. If he doesnt want to trade he can sit back and farm with Q, if he wants to poke he can, and then going off that poke he can swap with his shadow and all in. His gameplay is too safe and when he gets ahead it is frustrating. Zed players think he would get basic buffs and there is now way that can happen as he needs tuning that sees his champion to proper risk and reward.
Zed main want garantie kill lvl 3 with out hitting 2 q and with out need for ignite They also wanna press R on target with out hitting q and get kill whell still having easy and safe laning phase, small cast on his spell and easy all in potential, by far the most strong assasin in game how can go in, point click adc, get out from over 1000 range and some how its weak But no wonder zed is in top 10 most cancerr champs in game
: Hmmm, gimme that JG Camille build and runes this instant!
Yu are all ignoring red buff power and press the attack dmg which are main 2 things camille jgl need before go for cheese lvl 2 gank which btw as become so predictable yet every1 stil fall in it, u will notice every1 hugging red side of map wall so can camill can easly stun them but NO, camille is broken
: implying both can't be broken at the same time. Kha zix just has been broken for way longer. Like what s7 beginning. Now we are s9 and riot just buffed and buffed and buffed him.
He fit the burst festa meta so well, just e on adc q aa q and u kill him from full hp then r away
Juice (EUNE)
: Her win rate and pick rate don't matter. She is a hyperscalling lane bully with no weakness at all. Tell me her weakness I'm listening
i give u small number to consider it as weakness, lvl 3 camille seconde q does 46 true dmg which consider it her main dmg source, her e has 16 seconde cd, her w has 15.5 seconde and her shield has 15 seconde cd If camille try to go in she will do in her inter combo e aa q aa q w around 260 dmg Im pretty sure if darius pulled me or renekton combo me, ur pantheon jumb on me... They gona do more then 260 dmg, darius would do 65 % of myhp and heal all dmg i have dane to him
Juice (EUNE)
: Evelynn, Graves, Camille and potentially Rengar need to be put in check Camille is also broken in top lane too
Im pretty sure every single toplane pick counter camille and can easly win against her if u have braind, she doesnt even have winning match up and if somehow camille toplane player got kill or manage to farm safly to late game when she's become truly broken then. Thats on player and not the champ
: As a Vel'Koz and Xerath player i can say that the main reason why these mages have shifted to the support lane is because mid lane is being dominated by hyper mobile champions, which Xerath and Vel'Koz are countered by. {{champion:238}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:39}} {{champion:55}} {{champion:7}} are every siege mage main's nightmare. Which is why alot of mages have been exiled to the bot lane, where they have a chance to play against a more fair champion. Xerath and Vel'Koz are two of the most fair, well designed and balanced champions. The issue is not in them. It's in the fact that the game has become so incredibly mage unfriendly, with every second champion having built-in mobility and huge burst. So my suggestion would be to look at the mobility and damage of the more popular mid laners instead of trying to gut the healthy and balanced champions.
xD, u telling me that velkoz and xerath are well designe then i understand why u always lose to this champs Picking mele champ vs xerath and speciale velkoz is lost from champ select think if it as concept of shi1t i'm being 1 shoot from enemy base and nothing i can do back to trade but when that irelia miracle hit her e after not getting 1 shoot from range, she's op
Tulare (NA)
: Ah, that's an interesting point. I haven't looked at actual data in a while. I quickly reviewed my recent match history and I can see some evidence of what you've described. In games that we won, most of the time the bot laner (not always an AD marksman) had 15-25% more gold than the support. There were three or four cases, however, where they were about even, and one where the Neeko support had more gold than the laner.
Ignite maybe 1 of the answer to that question since all supp now take that broken summ spell how btw riot does 3rd of my hp as adc lvl 3, ignite help supp secure all kills and gold of lane.
Zeromatsu (EUW)
: For me a support has to do: 1. Go to a lane with someone and help/let him cs 2. place wards and deny enemy vision 3. assist the team (be it dmg or utilitywise) And protecting your carry isn't the supports job, it's the teams job. And assisting your team includes protecting your carry. And that doesn't mean you have to shield or heal him to achieve that. That's it. I don't expect them to babysit an adc, especially if the adc has no idea what he is doing. If dealing dmg means you win the game, go for it. But: Most dmg dealing supports are often overextending and are too fixated on dealing dmg. That's a problem, but it has nothing to do with the pick itself. I think we all had those Brand/Vel'koz/Lux or whatever that miss every skillshot and/or have bad positioning and get killed too often. And we all had those godlike Brand/Vel'koz/Lux etc. that carried the game. That's why I prefer enchanters over damage dealers myself. They are harder to mess up with.
It hurt to see janna or lulu, sorakan "the true definition of supp" get out performan by brand, xerath velkoz and speciale zyra
LTK KoRo (EUW)
: Brand bases are actually pretty terrible outside of his passive
U either brand supp abuiser or never laned vs brand supp in ur life before. Brand supp can kill adc or healer supp from full hp lvl 3 with ignite, he press r lvl 6 and if its not kill, u will notice every is super low only counter play is to burst him before heburst u which again bring us to the burst meta

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