: > [{quoted}](name=Armenty,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WPXTbcj2,comment-id=00080000,timestamp=2019-11-20T16:10:28.217+0000) > > WHat the duck are you talking about? Yes, you get free upgrades on your stupid support item. Awesome. So you lose 400g for first buy and +1400 for the upgrade. Then you get 1000g from the quest, means +2000g that is ... ONE item. Awesome. One item after ~ 14 mins. and after that, you have literally NO goldincome except the +3g/10 seconds. After few rounds I had in 40 min around 9k gold .... 9k ... that's my 4th item ... in 40 mins when EVERYONE ist fullbuild. EVEN THE FUCKING 0/1254/0 YASUO IS FUCKING FULLBUILD UNTIL I GET MY FIFTH ITEM. DON'T YOU DARE SAY ITS A BUFF It's strictly a massive buff at all points in the game after first back. You would need to generate 2400+ 10or 20 gold per min from the passive for this to be a "nerf" which no support champ is ever doing before they're full build.
What people always forget is, that you never bought the T3 support item. So yes, you get an 850g Item for free, but you never realy used and needed it. What we needed was our core items (Athenes, Ardent, Redemption, Zekes etc etc etc.) so having a +850g bonus for a useless item wont help any of us. Also, we only get a 450g bonsu from first back compared to the last season. You only bought T2 Support item and rush your Boots/Core item imediantly. So you had your first item in min 14~. Your second in min 21, firht in 25/26 and 5th in min 30. (fullbuild). Now you get your first Item with lv 12(yes, only 450g+ doesn't improve that much of time), have done the quest in min 15 and stuck hard till you get the second item with min 23-25 ... I just don'T see any point why you won'T give us the ducking goldincome passiv back. Take away the stats of the Item, nerf them, whatever but give me my ducking Gold back.
: WTF are you talking about the support items are being hard buffed. Supports are literally getting 2000 free gold. The buffs to the support role this offseason are actually insane. I'm literally gonna quit playing JG and swaping to the support role until this shit gets nerfed. It's support probably the strongest role in the game on 9.23
WHat the duck are you talking about? Yes, you get free upgrades on your stupid support item. Awesome. So you lose 400g for first buy and +1400 for the upgrade. Then you get 1000g from the quest, means +2000g that is ... ONE item. Awesome. One item after ~ 14 mins. and after that, you have literally NO goldincome except the +3g/10 seconds. After few rounds I had in 40 min around 9k gold .... 9k ... that's my 4th item ... in 40 mins when EVERYONE ist fullbuild. EVEN THE FUCKING 0/1254/0 YASUO IS FUCKING FULLBUILD UNTIL I GET MY FIFTH ITEM. DON'T YOU DARE SAY ITS A BUFF

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