: Worst world champion song ever in 5 year.
Man I learned "Warriors" by Imagine Dragons, by heart just from listening to it on repeat over and over. Seriously you could wake me up in the middle of the night and i could sing it for you.
Yets4240 (NA)
: I think you've hit the nail on the head with the last part of what you're saying, and everyone else so far is missing the point quite surprsingly terribly. The problem isn't on Naut, or Thresh, Blitz got over buffed last patch for worlds (along with various others like Fiora, Lee Sin, Ori) but had been fairly balanced for a while, albeit annoying to play against. (Pyke is an outright abomination that should not have been released, and is a failed concept. Hypermobile, multiple hard CC using, support assassins with the highest defensive base stats in game by utterly massive margins, and who have the highest gold income of any champion for himself AND OTHERS despite duo laning, should not ever be a thing. Period) --and the problem certainly isn't on Leona. The problem is ADC still has more than enough damage to easily kill someone if much of any hard CC is landed, right from the get go, and junglers only further exacerbate the problem. Damage is so ludicrously overtuned, that 1-1.5 second long hard CCs are death sentences, even in laning phase.
So what nerf everyones damage? I like big numbers, what i'd like more would be big HP numbers, so as a support i could defend my adc and not feel helpless when it gets erased in 0.1 sec by assassins or cc locked by bruisers with 4k hp.
: > [{quoted}](name=Nightshade Rose,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KpjLsWb5,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2019-09-26T14:18:50.566+0000) > > with the amount of cc ignore abilities lately or untargetable status abilities it's hard for CC supports to protect their adc's. What can you do when you have cc and can't use it? What can a thresh or naut do against charging kled into their adc when he's immune to CC? or Olaf running into enemy team and demolishing any squishy? You just sit there and watch, or flail your cc desperatly trying to achieve something, hoping for a bug that would allow you to do your work. How can you save someone with CC from an invisible threat that deletes your adc in less then a second, when your CC takes more time to even finish it's animation? You can't. CC supports are viable in early games, where you don't have to deal with that bs that makes you obsolete and just a spectator of your lp dropping and adc's blaming you for not protecting them. > > Current burst + cc ignore meta is why we're losing good old botlane of MARKSMEN+SUPPORT and have ADC+Burst mage, Burst mage + assassin, ap assassin + CC support. ADC's are too hard to defend when litterally anything can oneshot them of make your entire kit osolite, sometimes even both (yasuo and any invis burst like shaco, rengar evelyn) we really need an item that let's us link to our adc's and with a press of a button give them max 1s shield from all dmg. > > Honestly i think we should start considering Kayle support just to make ADC's wet tissue papers when facing off against burst dmg. A problem with that is that *everyone* expects ADCs to go for the big crit oneshot builds, when they could build, say, Bloodthirster, Botrk, Black Cleaver/Essence Reaver, Lord Dominik's and Wit's End and Tabis, and they'd be tanky as fuck (for marksmen anyway), output steady damage per second without being an instagib free target that is actually protectable by the rest of the team. But no. Gotta go squish crit.
Thing is that when i go sustain > crit builds it usually leads me surviving 0.1 sec more from ad rengar and 1 sec more against zed, doesn't change at all when going vs zoe. Thing is if you go sustain you need to, well, be alive to use it with low hp pool and slightly above avarege resist/armor it doesn't work that well when you have champs that deal 1.5x - 2x your max hp in fraction of a second. Again you'd need your support to cc then to gain you time to make those items useful by keeping you alive.
: CC supports aren't really supposed to protect their adcs though, they're meant to feed them kills. However, due to the current meta having too much damage, aftershock being too good of a keystone, and the base damage for these supports being so high, it makes them way too good at setting up kills, while having no way to punish a "bad" engage. Honestly, hook support players have gotten so used to having so many overtuned tools at their fingertips that they don't even have to think about going in, because for the most part, there are no "bad" engages anymore. Once you lock down a target, your AD will follow up with enough damage to net the kill, so there's really no downside of going in. Also, the instances you listed are things that even enchanter supports can't deal with either. If kled is charging at my ad, A mantra shield, a janna tornado, nami bubble, wont save them anymore than a blitz hook would, you just have to wait for the ult to be over. Enchanter supports are given cc as well, but its usually soft cc as opposed to the harder cc on hooks. But soft cc isnt enough to consistently peel or set up kills, which is why enchanters are completely outclassed this patch.
You can't feed a dead adc. Well duh CC immunity makes you immune to all CC's soft or hard. Too much dmg in this meta is correct, however even if you say there are no bad engages, if you focus on a tank or a bruiser and either jump in 1v5 or pull it into your squishies, they'll get blown up like nothing.
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: Maybe I'm not effected by this as a Burst Support player but it's this the point? Hook champions are disruptors, they're ment to grab your backline and pull them in for a quick kill enchanters are the backline and priority targets. Besides most enchanters ie; Janna, Lulu, Nami. Have movement speed steroids to avoid hooks and Hard CC to directly respond to a hit hook. And this goes without mentioning how high the base cooldown is of Blitz' Q sitting at a 20 second cooldown from level 1 and 9-10 seconds with max CDR giving you plenty of opportunities to punish Blitz for playing aggressive if he misses.
with the amount of cc ignore abilities lately or untargetable status abilities it's hard for CC supports to protect their adc's. What can you do when you have cc and can't use it? What can a thresh or naut do against charging kled into their adc when he's immune to CC? or Olaf running into enemy team and demolishing any squishy? You just sit there and watch, or flail your cc desperatly trying to achieve something, hoping for a bug that would allow you to do your work. How can you save someone with CC from an invisible threat that deletes your adc in less then a second, when your CC takes more time to even finish it's animation? You can't. CC supports are viable in early games, where you don't have to deal with that bs that makes you obsolete and just a spectator of your lp dropping and adc's blaming you for not protecting them. Current burst + cc ignore meta is why we're losing good old botlane of MARKSMEN+SUPPORT and have ADC+Burst mage, Burst mage + assassin, ap assassin + CC support. ADC's are too hard to defend when litterally anything can oneshot them of make your entire kit osolite, sometimes even both (yasuo and any invis burst like shaco, rengar evelyn) we really need an item that let's us link to our adc's and with a press of a button give them max 1s shield from all dmg. Honestly i think we should start considering Kayle support just to make ADC's wet tissue papers when facing off against burst dmg.
: Let's Talk Hook Supports
You forgot to mention that pyke gets double gold for himself if he executes someone.
Typhl0 (EUW)
: Yeah but the problem is that in high elo, queue time can hit 1hour in high chall and the game won't even find 10 chall to do the game, removing autofill looks OK in low elo but when u hit Plat + it will be always long and master + will be too long
then introduce it in high elos only. ffs in low elos ppl climb by picking one role and being good at it, it's like night and day low vs high elo, plat + players can fill at least 3 out of 5 possible roles and do good there, if not they can switch with somebody, but in low elo you either get autofilled and troll out of rage or play like shit and get flamed at, because nobody could switch to a role you got autofilled.
: That's simply not going to happen, as much as we might want it to. Autofill exists to ensure that queue times aren't absolutely hell to wait through. I've played multiplayer role-based games without an autofill function, and waits are usually averaged out at about 5 minutes. So unless you want to sit for five minutes or more waiting for a match, only for someone to dodge and make you wait five more, autofill is gonna stick around.
I'd wait 5 min for a match any day instead of wasting 20-30min in a match with a troll that got autofilled.
: Autofill is killing my desire to climb
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: > [{quoted}](name=Ornndyr2k19,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2rIiOHME,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-13T08:54:39.580+0000) > > your definition of trolling is doubfounding If you go into a situation where your intent is to hurt and don't care about others, that's usually a sign of trolling.
I don't know, the whole tree of might movie was kinda wack.
: Please, I beg, stop allowing new champions in ranked.
Everytime new champ or freshly reworked old champ gets picked. "Why are we here? Only to suffer?"
Dynikus (NA)
: What is there to talk about exactly?
> [{quoted}](name=Dynikus,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kdIWtbE0,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-12T06:46:06.136+0000) > > What is there to talk about exactly? Broke back gang!
: Morde sitting at 70% ban rate, 13% pick rate, and 56% WR even with 0 expereince on him
250 hp shield no cost at lvl 3 12s cd... what other champ can say that they have a shield like that. Oh that's right... Him! {{champion:157}}
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Audhulma (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Nightshade Rose,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=pa4q3QiB,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-10-30T13:31:25.286+0000) > > Either way it just shows how downhill this game has fallen, if Riot now needs ads to bring in new players. Just means that this game is in such poor state that players stopped inviting their friends to try it. You're not wrong, but that's also not the entire picture. They're an incredibly wealthy company, so it's actually more surprising that they hadn't spent money on real advertisement before now. I mean think about it like this - is McDonalds having it rough just because they spend millions on commercials to advertise only one or two products that aren't even necessarily new? Nope.
> [{quoted}](name=Audhulma,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=pa4q3QiB,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-30T13:41:01.832+0000) > > You're not wrong, but that's also not the entire picture. They're an incredibly wealthy company, so it's actually more surprising that they hadn't spent money on real advertisement before now. I mean think about it like this - is McDonalds having it rough just because they spend millions on commercials to advertise only one or two products that aren't even necessarily new? Nope. It'll just take your word for it. Cuz in my country the'res MC adds on every corner and screen.
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CLG ear (NA)
: valve probably doesn't care as much because they are their own company with multiple franchises riot games league is all they got so it has to keep going until they make another game
Either way it just shows how downhill this game has fallen, if Riot now needs ads to bring in new players. Just means that this game is in such poor state that players stopped inviting their friends to try it.
: Adc's dieing before you can do anything to save them? *Taking a wild guess without reading your post.*
> [{quoted}](name=Nightshade Rose,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Rsc4NBGX,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-10-30T13:23:18.795+0000) > > Adc's dieing before you can do anything to save them? > > > *Taking a wild guess without reading your post.* Huh guess i was wrong. I have problem with us being behind soo much gold. My adc will be building 4th item, while i'm just finishing my first. Even when i was a part of every or more kills we earned and using supp items to full extent, even if we're not dead after every fight we're still behind gold. Only exeption to that for me is Pyke, because of his ult goldshare.
NY64 (NA)
: One reason I've been hating this season as a support main
Adc's dieing before you can do anything to save them? *Taking a wild guess without reading your post.*
ÀIpha (NA)
: Minion Blocking/Hitbox Blocking needs to chill
I feel it best when you try to thread a needle through minions while thinking "Wow theres no way i'll hit a minion with this, easy poke for sure." and it still hits that minion. Or trying to walk through minions.... Forget about it.
Vuxem (NA)
: Thank fucking god we removed 5 ms from Irelia.
She's not even that strong, just focus her and use that CC, try not to 1v1 her. Your teams assassin 1-shotted enemy adc in 0.000000001sec? Time to focus irelia. Still don't forget to protect your adc. - Support main.
: Why is Irelia allowed to be broken?
She's not Op or Broken, you just need to play with your team, try not to 1v1 her, and use that CC. Your assassin just 1-shotted enemy adc in 0.0000001sec? Now's your chance to focus Irelia. - Support Main.
: {{item:3095}} Is an early / mid item, so in late, you must sold it, because at this point of the game, you will not be able to use his passive properly.
> [{quoted}](name=Destello Azul,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=R5meQtLo,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-09-10T20:57:47.161+0000) > > {{item:3095}} Is an early / mid item, so in late, you must sold it, because at this point of the game, you will not be able to use his passive properly. what about Jhin?
: Dem sneaky Riot are at this again
Yasuo chanelling his inner weeb. I see his Kakashi showing.
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: Problem with Yasuo: Die 2 times on lane as Yasuo, you're useless for the rest of the game. Give 2 kills to Yasuo, he's gonna make your game a nightmare. Champ design like this shouldn't exist. Great job CertainlyT. Nice champ designs you got there. Clap clap.
do anything as yasuo, just buy first crit+movespeed item and you're set
: >I don't know about you guys, but I remember a time when we could just throw an idea out there and Rioters could be our catchers in outfield, bouncing ideas left and right. A time when it felt like we were talking to fellow players rather than a faceless corporation with its representatives forced to keep quiet about most issues. A time when it felt like we could actually make a difference. Welcome to an indie studio going big time. That's what happens. Like, no lie. You can't talk to the community as much because you have more work to do. You can't just meme about because what if someone takes offense and makes a big expose post? Hell, I've been told that lore team rioters are forbidden from reading fan fiction on the off chance they borrow an idea. Imagine how that must feel. Riot's not the buddy-buddy indie 50 person studio it used to be. It has benefits and drawbacks. For what it's worth they still do communicate more than several companies I've played games with (much as people will tell me "NU UH RIOT SILENT ALL THE TIME") but the change has come due to the size and growth of the game. We're never going back, sad as it may be.
: Last patch Akali. Since release her E has always been like that as far as I can tell.
If this type of thing was in some shooter game it get patched in an hour. Imagine getting shot by the guy who aimed at you while you were running, but pulled the trigger after you went behind a wall and still killed you, because he aimed at you when you were not behind cover. I get that theres simmilar thing i nshooter games, but thats due ping and not because of game design. I mean fuck it even in real life it be dumbest thing ever, you see knife still 10 cm away from you, but still get stabbed after moving another meter away before it hits you. Martial arts be based on luck and no skill would be involved in it. Why not make Ziggs ult like that? If he throws bomb at your current location you're talking damage even if you manage to get out before it explodes. How abilities work should be based on animation. For example a bomb exploding deals damage in its blast are, while a spining blade only when said blade comes into contact with target. Such game change would not only make game more mechanicly chalanging, but also more fun, because the level of detail in videos games always reels in players atention and makes game more lifelike.
: You're looking at the skin wrong, the little blue ones are actual eyes and the big black things on his jawline are either mandibles or just decor
I guess it could be mandibles, but they're kinda fat and plump to be it.
: auto attacks will always go through( I think only if you flash into a bush or out of view does it cancel idk about that though) if his ability is an autoattack modifier and he uses it before you flash it will hit you regardless, its like you can not flash a ranged auto attack, same thing is said for a melee autoattack.
Then i will never understand this game. A melee range should be melee and if something walks out or dashes/blinks out it should cancel. Might as well give everyone ranged attacks. Although it would be interesting to see what kind of impact it would have on the game. Like a PBE change just to see how players would respond to it. I guess making aa modifiers with cast time, a short one, like any of Ahris skills would be interesting to see too.
: You can't flash auto attacks. Once the auto attack animation starts there is nothing you can do to avoid it unless you have an ability that lets you do so (Jax E, Fizz E, Vlad W, etc.). This same thing applies to a few abilities as well. For example, if old Akali started her E animation while you were in range, then flashing away wouldn't stop the damage.
Wait how old are we talking? All i remmember about her E that it was aoe dmg that proced her Q mark to heal her.
: Oh, well i will just explain a bit. S2 renger can burst adc through barrier in 0.5 sec with 1 item , my point is too much scaling is part of bad design. in this case, Zoe suppose to be a champion rely on her stun q combo, but basically she missed both and killed jhin with autos and iginite. I know jhin is not a strong 1v1 champ but Zoe has engage, good late game and mobility, she's not suppose to win a fight like this
And thats why i said that Zoe has too much scaling, if she had lower scaling on her abilities then and only then she'd be more mechanicly challenging to play instead of "Do whatever and you win"
: You mean the god of soccer ?
Kai Guy (NA)
: I think 3 dc is a pretty rare situation that the inability to remake off a single vote may be an oversight. Rather then blame riot incorrectly for "removal of remakes" This thread could have actually been constructive and requested that remakes go thru when the votes are tied regardless of the # of votes. That The system should favor remakes as opposed to lopsided games.
But its a remake, even if its 1 player afk it should be a majority wins and not 1 player gets everyone stuck in an (most likely) unwinable game. If its a 50-50 situation it should still favor the Yes team, since one that afk'ed is still getting punished.
Preata (NA)
: read the thread. the in-game message read "remake vote must be unanimous" which it NEVER said before 8.15 patch. they turned the remake system into the early surrender system, thereby granting one person the power to stop a remake
Thus enabling trolls to keep on trolling. Honestly by that point if one presses No then other 4 should be allowed to go afk with no penalties.
: And Rengar player told me the Rengar design is fine in S2, do you know what I mean?
No not really. I started in season 3 end and started actually playing mid season 4. But if he got reworked eventually his kit was the problem. Not waying they're going to rework Zoe any time soon, but they might change one of her skills during a patch if its really the problem with her. It's not like Rengar has no problems now, with that phantom hit (When he jumps on you but you're nowhere near him and still get the dmg)
Wrazor (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Nightshade Rose,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=o7cxbEm7,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2018-08-01T22:12:12.532+0000) > > Starting to think that people don't even read the first line of the post. > > As i said it might not be a problem for veterans that had a lot of ip stored before conversion like you and me, but to veterans that didn't have extra ip and especially to new players it is a hassel. I'm a new player who started in August (and have made a few new accounts since then for fun to level up with my friends I've introduced), and I have no issue with getting BE, on any of my accounts. It is super easy. I've never felt deprived of champions. And if your friends are feeling bored, there are a ton of free champions every week - play those lol, and if you really like one, play the game more to get the BE to buy it. Honestly, the system is fine.
: > [{quoted}](name=Nightshade Rose,realm=EUW,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=QkszrVcm,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-08-01T21:14:18.170+0000) > > Pele anyone? Anyone?? Pele is way more human though
Is she? Apart from the horns its very close. Btw not talking about Smite Pele, but Pele as a Diety
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: Being some1 that doens't want to unlock all champions (I actually try to keep my crew a selected one) I won hard on the transition from IPs to BEs, I still have 45k blue essences stored.
Starting to think that people don't even read the first line of the post. As i said it might not be a problem for veterans that had a lot of ip stored before conversion like you and me, but to veterans that didn't have extra ip and especially to new players it is a hassel.
: I have like 50k. I don't have any problem at all. In fact I wish I could stop getting champion shards from chests and only get skin shards. Cause at least those aren't useless to me.
: >P.S. why does it have 4 eyes? Where do you see another 2 set of eyes lol?
Bee type of eye on his head (where his jaws should be) and a little bit above them is a blue one. And other 2 are on the other side.
Rhyvin (NA)
: Mafia Braum missing bowler hat
Graves still hasn't gotten his cigar shipment. What makes you think Braum will get his new Bauler hat? Riot is a gamin company, not tabaco and hats.
Eedat (NA)
: > why the fuck did riot remove remaking They didnt? You need 2 votes to remake. This situation where three people didnt connect and the other decides to be a troll and vote no is so incredibly rare. This is NOT "removing remake". How the fuck is this thread getting upvoted? Do people actually think remake was removed with absolutely zero proof? xD
True, but still its should be a majority and in 2 player situation 1 yes should resolt in a remake. It's unfair to the other one? You both will be wasting 5-10 min of your life instead of 22-28 min.
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