: As a Darius main I agree. He was fine. This buff will only help you in river ambushes to get 1 more heal from scuttler. He still has no gank power and does not scale to the late game to be a farming jg. The other things are on point as well. I like your examination.
> [{quoted}](name=TeodorusofNoxus,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mqu2k7gh,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2020-02-19T14:03:01.349+0000) > > As a Darius main I agree. He was fine. This buff will only help you in river ambushes to get 1 more heal from scuttler. He still has no gank power and does not scale to the late game to be a farming jg. The other things are on point as well. I like your examination. As somebody who plays Darius sometimes but doesn't "main" him, but also plays agains him, I'd say Darius was never fine and it's not a coincidence that his ban rate is at an all time high across all regions and ranks.
: People keep getting hacked. We should take class action. I am tired of reading this everyday.
Kids entering their passwords where they shouldn't or sharing it willingly doesn't qualify as being "hacked".
Garson211 (EUNE)
: That hit the winrate maybe -5% .Its still 4 k gold for two items vs 7 k bruiser items so w/e
> [{quoted}](name=Garson211,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=v3Zhkbm4,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2020-02-19T09:08:03.860+0000) > > That hit the winrate maybe -5% .Its still 4 k gold for two items vs 7 k bruiser items so w/e Stronger items cost more... that's kinda how it works.
: To be frank, this is probably gonna gut them for support too. And the issues with top lane will still be prevalent. I am glad you're happy though. But I also think a more long term solution should be worked on by riot (if they aren't already)
> [{quoted}](name=Lazypeon100,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=v3Zhkbm4,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2020-02-19T08:58:38.882+0000) > > To be frank, this is probably gonna gut them for support too. And the issues with top lane will still be prevalent. > > I am glad you're happy though. But I also think a more long term solution should be worked on by riot (if they aren't already) It's more like a small buff for Soraka support, and a small nerf for Soraka top especially in early game top lane Soraka gets hit hard, but she will be STRONGER once she has Q maxed, enough mana regen and 40% cdr. I also wouldn't say top lane Soraka is completely gutted, it will be weaker obviously but it remains to be seen how weak. I just don't understand why Grasp GP is acceptable. You reworked Pantheon who had a spammable point and click poke spell, meanwhile GP procs grasp and sheen with his Q, I'd rather lane against a Soraka. LOL
GFREEMEN (NA)
: Riot: What did you do to pathing in the last 6 months?
I got stuck under my mid tower because of one minion between the tower and the wall.
: Does Riot actually think their game is in a better spot or are they just avoiding the discussion?
: How do you fight a permaban?
Arion435 (NA)
: Sett's kit just feels really bad to play against
LOL the issue is not how it "feels". The issue is that he is obviously overpowered and a lane bully. It's not a coincidence that he has a higher ban rate than Darius or Yasuo. But i doubt that Riot wants to nerf this champion much because they for some reason enjoy Juggernaut powercreep.
Comentários de Rioters
: >#The game is quite literally unplayable 8 millions active daily players beg to differ
> [{quoted}](name=Three One Four,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=QTWXFzrN,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2020-02-15T17:06:27.341+0000) > > 8 millions active daily players beg to differ You must be a payed Riot troll and it honestly wouldn't surprise me.
Comentários de Rioters
: Free speech applies to the government only, not private companies.
> [{quoted}](name=Dr Cat Pooch,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=rWeEuNwu,comment-id=00000000000100000002,timestamp=2020-02-14T01:02:18.165+0000) > > Free speech applies to the government only Then it's not free speech. LMAO Your government could literally be one dictator who speaks freely and then it would be free speech according to you. {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
: Dude you have to realize that Riot and this community are all bunch of insecure snowflakes. You can't say shit anymore. If somebody is inting you just have to play the game, you cant say that they are invertebrates and incells (which they are). Its just how the game works now (unfortunately).
> [{quoted}](name=LuxOreFeedXD,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=rWeEuNwu,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2020-02-14T15:16:58.525+0000) > > Dude you have to realize that Riot and this community are all bunch of insecure snowflakes. You can't say shit anymore. If somebody is inting you just have to play the game, you cant say that they are invertebrates and incells (which they are). Its just how the game works now (unfortunately). You have to say "WP MB" when somebody is inting 0/15... such a great game. {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
: Senna can't have it all.
She doesn't have it all. Bad dps, low mobility.
: You're doing well, but be aware that some people are deliberately poking you to expose toxic tenancies. Ignore the downvotes, they are from mere rule-glorifying fools who are pointing at you as an example of someone who is getting punished by a system recognizing your "toxic" behavior. Technically, as you've seen already, it was 'toxic' and justifiably punished. At this point they just want to prove that you deserve it. I think it's bad behavior (the poking you), take solace that the system isn't designed for you, but for League of Legends, and you being punished is not a indication of you being a bad person.
> [{quoted}](name=Nightsky Pirate,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=7YV0LxT8,comment-id=00000000000000000002,timestamp=2020-02-12T04:19:44.732+0000) > > Ignore the downvotes I wouldn't be surprised if Riot was using bots to control the narrative or if they had actual employees voting here.
IVSakenz (NA)
: 1. told other people to report someone.. 2. demeaned a player by inferring his rank negated or lessened his position and that he needed to be better 3. arguing in team chat ruins the experience of the other players on your team
> [{quoted}](name=IVSakenz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=7YV0LxT8,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2020-02-11T15:58:55.614+0000) > > 1. told other people to report someone.. > > 2. demeaned a player by inferring his rank negated or lessened his position and that he needed to be better > > 3. arguing in team chat ruins the experience of the other players on your team Yea expecting the jungle to have some map awareness or at the very least look when somebody pings is very demeaning. This stuff ruins the game, but here we are talking about how you are not allowed to tell people when their actions are ruining your experience. This is between Silver412 and his team mate and it should stay there. Maybe they learn from that situation maybe not, it's up to them, it's not Riots business and it shouldn't be reportable and the report calling is only a thing because Riot has lowered the bar for reportable stuff so much that it's pretty much nonexistent. We are at a point were players interact by not communicating and reporting, you can't tell me that this is acceptable in a team game. It's just absurd. The reports and this disgusting player behavior board (or the legalized pillory how I'd like to call it) is literally part of the problem.
: > [{quoted}](name=Salty Mc Feed,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rVhaWhbz,comment-id=0010,timestamp=2020-02-10T09:19:24.175+0000) > > Not defending your nexus and being sore loser is unsportsmanlike.....pretty much the same niveau as people who complain about "tryharding". > > {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}} > > In times were people pick Soraka/Sona top backdooring, splitpushing is a really strong tactic to win games. > > Demolish, Trinity Force and Sanguine Blade are OP for that purpose. Splitpushing and backdooring are very different.
> [{quoted}](name=Poot Lovato,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rVhaWhbz,comment-id=00100000,timestamp=2020-02-13T01:06:01.719+0000) > > Splitpushing and backdooring are very different. {{sticker:sg-lux-2}}
: Mages can never be viable in a role where 1v1 fights(invade) can be forced early, heck even midlane viability is hurting in soloq to the point where assassins are dominating the top picks if i am not mistaken. A mage in the jungle is just a free meal to a invading assassin/fighter.
> [{quoted}](name=Thefrostyviking,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nudQ7LAz,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2020-02-12T11:13:04.944+0000) > > Mages can never be viable in a role where 1v1 fights(invade) can be forced early, heck even midlane viability is hurting in soloq to the point where assassins are dominating the top picks if i am not mistaken. > > > A mage in the jungle is just a free meal to a invading assassin/fighter. Ah yes, and this is why Karthus jungle is still getting played so much, because he has so many ways to escape invades. LMAO
: Can we get some more mages in the jungle?
Soraka jungle, uninteractive heal ganks {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}}
: Dude has a point.
My favourite is the "I ignore everything or most of what you just said" fallacy, a term that I just invented but applies almost everywhere on the boards. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
D3m37r1 (NA)
: Where did the notifications go?
Disussions are dead.... DEEEEAAAAAD hahaahhhaha {{sticker:sg-syndra}}
JackMcCarry (EUNE)
: Whats the point of playing ranked if Riot is gonna soft cap me at specific ranks?
Actually what is the point of playing ranked when my game can be stuck in loading screen and i get a free loss, or it disconnects/freezes 10 times in a row in laning phase and then crashes around 10 min forcing me to reload into the game..... it's kinda unplayable tbh. This should have been fixed in preseason, but some people are dealing with this shit for 3 months or even longer. Never played an online game that was THAT BROKEN and it amazes me how Riot managed to degrade performance and stability for the game over the last years. I never had any issues in season 3-6. Report Riot for refusing to communicate.
ShadWooo (EUNE)
: So you want to know how to handle Soraka top?
So you started playing Soraka mid/top after patch 6.5 where Riot gave Soraka too much power with Q max, wow nobody could expect that. I just wish Riot had a clear goal for the game, because this was totally predictable and a contradiction to Sorakas season 4 rework that was meant to turn her into a dedicated support that is not able to be a solo laner. Now they are going to revert that again and turn Soraka into a healbot. I really don't care. I was against this change in season 6, because it didn't fit her at all to play like pseudo Vladimir support. I just wish Riot had enough braincells to no longer rely on 40%/60% healing reduction to "balance" heals and just make heals scale fairly for both sides, because this is probably the most broken aspect of the game, followed by tank items that give too much damage reduction and not enough health early, only to get hard countered by percentage penetration. It's already clear what will happen now, people will complain about Soraka being too uninteractive AGAIN because she no longer has health costs if she hits Q once and then Riot will do another stupid and uninspired tweak to her kit after a while.
: Legitimate discussion input. Down-voted to hell. Nice to see the boards working like normal. > [{quoted}](name=Ariel the Cruel,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=t9Ib6urX,comment-id=00080000,timestamp=2020-02-07T20:03:34.828+0000) > > Funny thing is, Enchanters rarely "win" solo lanes in the conventional sense. They simply don't lose. > Where enchanters "win" is their ability to transition into post-lane phase. Enchanters are designed to be effective even when criminally behind; since the assumption is (as the team slave/pack mule), they will be. Where as non-enchanters need to do well into lane phase to transition effectively. The trade off being that non-enchanters scale *better* under conventional circumstances or when "winning" lane; evidenced by non-enchanters steam rolling support "role" any time support income is even remotely decent. > > Unsigned, > someone who played enchanter solo for many years (including on TT) before going ARAM full time. The part that people seem to fundamentally misunderstand about solo enchanters (Soraka top included), is that it's an entirely different mind-set. Where most people are trying to win lane, and many top laners *need* to win lane, playing a solo enchanter announces that your goal is simply not to lose. They trade terribly, push terribly, and generally roam terribly, but can sustain/turtle well enough to reach non-lane phase. Which is the goal. Solo enchanters don't carry, they double down on who ever is already doing well so *that person* can carry.
> [{quoted}](name=Ariel the Cruel,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IAUbo7Em,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2020-02-09T08:04:27.859+0000) > > Legitimate discussion input. > Down-voted to hell. > Nice to see the boards working like normal. > > The part that people seem to fundamentally misunderstand about solo enchanters (Soraka top included), is that it's an entirely different mind-set. Where most people are trying to win lane, and many top laners *need* to win lane, playing a solo enchanter announces that your goal is simply not to lose. They trade terribly, push terribly, and generally roam terribly, but can sustain/turtle well enough to reach non-lane phase. Which is the goal. Solo enchanters don't carry, they double down on who ever is already doing well so *that person* can carry. Yea so... I had no problem winning vs supports top by picking strong splitpushers and abusing demolish, sanguine blade + tri force to take towers extremely fast. Almost no damage to champions, kda something like 1/6/1 but still got 8 towers 2 inhibs and the nexus, because these support picks rely on full team fights, they absolutely can't handle having to split. It's so hilarious. You can do the 0 damage tryndamere challenge.
Sucction (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=ShadWooo,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IAUbo7Em,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2020-02-09T07:34:47.915+0000) > > Actually I didn't play soloQ much this season. League is in worst state ever since I started playing, damage creep and mobility creep too high, AP champions completely useless and meaningless (except the new(ly reworked) who are on the contrary straight up broken). And the dragon/herald nonsense changes... just meh. And now when my trollpick is meta and suddenly broken freelo op that is a reason for me not to play it. But I might play her again after they do that 60% damage to minions Q nerf that is on PBE. > > So no I don't complain, I don't care. You guys are the ones who cry and complain about Soraka being broken and if someone gives you an advice and tips how to beat her you mass downvote him. Typical sheeps. Just last week you were calling me retarted trollpicker, now you tell me I play broken shit and your only argument is winrate/being played in pro play. > > If the toplaners weren't bad players in first place, Karma, Viktor, Soraka would not have so high winrates. And now Sona is being listed in champion.gg with even higher winrate lol. Let me tell you that when someone (usually from my team) banned Soraka I instalocked Sona and that she is absolutely unplayable in toplane. You can somehow do OK in midlane in very few specific matchups, but toplane... she has the lowest hitpoints in whole game, she dies instantly if you get close to her. And if you can't get close to the champion who can't even cs (contrary to the Soraka) then it tells how bad are you. And if you can and you are 6/0 Renekton and you can't utilize your advantage in teamfights, then... that is even worse. She's very clearly not "absolutely unplayable" in top lane, since she has a fucking 60% wr. Soraka top and Sona top are broken. That is why they are being nerfed. The argument "all other top lane players are bad" is the most ridiculous thing I think I've ever heard. It's those very same players who are picking up Soraka top and hitting crazy winrates with it. Is Khan a "bad" top laner to you? He can't beat this strategy more than half the time either, so I guess he must be! Shut up dumbass.
> [{quoted}](name=Sucction,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IAUbo7Em,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2020-02-11T07:11:30.285+0000) > > Is Khan a "bad" top laner to you? He can't beat this strategy more than half the time either, so I guess he must be! > He just got hyped for esports, he certainly is no mastermind. {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}} Korean for fun player
: Soraka is one of the best scaling champions in the game. And when you put her on a solo lane income + exp, she becomes insane, her items are extremely cheap. The reason they can't play assassins besides Leblanc is for a variety of reasons but mostly because most melee midlaners are really bad, and extremely prone to being camped and bullied, they can't get early lane priority, they will never be able to get a solo kill because the enemy mid laner is actually good at the game.
> [{quoted}](name=ProphetOfDraven,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IAUbo7Em,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2020-02-09T06:11:16.972+0000) > > Soraka is one of the best scaling champions in the game. And when you put her on a solo lane income + exp, she becomes insane, her items are extremely cheap. The reason they can't play assassins besides Leblanc is for a variety of reasons but mostly because most melee midlaners are really bad, and extremely prone to being camped and bullied, they can't get early lane priority, they will never be able to get a solo kill because the enemy mid laner is actually good at the game. Holy shit how fucking deluded can you be? Best scaling champions? Stop trolling, seriously. The only thing in Soraka's kit that scales ok...ish is her W until people get grievous wounds and then even that scales really poorly compared to other champions with powerful damage.
Comentários de Rioters
: The state of the game is making people more and more toxic.
Come backs are possible, but it's blatantly obvious that most players don't enjoy a completely and totally unbalanced laning phase even if they get a chance to come back, but also not all champions have a realistic chance to make a comeback, some champions can be counterpicked to make them garbage early and they remain garbage. Especially toplane should be balanced very carefully, because it's a side lane where you are on your own and you can get punished extremely hard and then the power difference snowballs extremely quickly. But Riot doesn't even try to balance match ups, they literally enforce counterpicks, for solo queue this is absolutely unbearable. The whole concept of Juggernauts is a manifestation of this terrible design philosophy.
VoKks9 (EUW)
: 10 game chat ban for defending myself in game - NEVER used ANY ''bad words''.
You lost the report roulette, better luck next time. Think twice if you ever consider giving Riot money.
Great Lad (EUNE)
: Reminder: It's fully ok to troll/int as long as you don't type anything.
Somebody obviously ran it down in one my games after losing lane, went 1/26/1 in like 20 min. I reported and he got immediatly caught. So it's safe to assume that Riot can detect obvious cases. But it's also safe to assume that they are neither capable of nor willing to spend resource on detecting soft cases of trolling. I just think it would only be fair if the same standard applied to chat, I prefer people who threaten to go afk, troll, or int, say "ff15" and they they "give up" and are "done" in semi serious fashion over those who actually do it. LMAO And if you can't punish the act you also shouldn't punish the threat or insinuation. I also prefer games where players are free and not subjected to authoritarian chat behavior rules, It's disgusting that you treat players who make some salty comments the same as people who spam racist insults or send death threats, it really disgusts me, how low Riot stooped over the last years, it's just sad. This obsession with controlling player behavior will be the end of league and Riot Games some day.
: Do you knot realize how bad this gayme is?
Yes I might start banning Anivia when I want to play Sett, fuck that champion, I'd prefer if she didn't eggsist, so annoying.
: Unpopular Opinion: I think backdooring is unsportsmanlike
Not defending your nexus and being sore loser is unsportsmanlike.....pretty much the same niveau as people who complain about "tryharding". {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}} In times were people pick Soraka/Sona top backdooring, splitpushing is a really strong tactic to win games. Demolish, Trinity Force and Sanguine Blade are OP for that purpose.
: Did the most damage and most CC but flamed by our diamond teammate in ARAM because I am Iron...
Did he maybe say what exactly it is that you did wrong? Just wondering.... Also your damage dealt, cc and assists is irrelevant it doesn't tell us anything. Fiddle is broken in ARAM. You get a lot of assist by just mindlessly spamming your E. You also get high damage if you can poke and when you main poke spell also does silence... that also inflates your CC score. Malphite is not Fiddlesticks, so comparing these stats is just not a good metric, it's Just a very pathetic way to boost your ego tbh. AP Malphite requires coordination with team, he can only ult in once, so mabye... just maybe he expected you to time your stuff better. I guess we will never know because you focus more on being butt hurt over getting criticized in a video game.... instead of learning. And if your Iron you either haven't played enough games, have very low experience or you literally don't want to try and improve.
Tentaku (EUNE)
: Here's an idea: instead of nerfing Soraka Top give people reason to NOT play Soraka Top
I like the changes for Soraka, it's good for support Soraka, if only Riot would get rid of Grievous Wounds and tune heals down though, it would be even better. Or at least don't make it a ridiculous debuff like 40%/60% healing reduction. Nerf heals a little but make GW like 10% to 15% something that is not just ... broken, you know?
: Why did I get chat restricted
You lost the report roulette.
: The thing is DotA is way more strategical than League so it stays good even though there is a lot of damage and long stuns. But Riot is literally destroying the strategical ways of playing League.
You can show your intellectual mastery by buying executioners calling for 800 gold to hard counter all heals. You think that's silly and not really a strategy? ... yea maybe
: > [{quoted}](name=Garson211,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=O3rxb7oi,comment-id=000e0000,timestamp=2020-02-03T11:34:15.162+0000) > > Yup you have right.I want only said there is better solution for "Tank meta" than buffing DMG on all class. > Guys you know what? Nerf Tank % dmg and base DMG. All of them with no exception.So the tank will be tank and it will stop doing such big damage at the same time. > > I remember TANK META and I remember that the tank itself was not a problem but the amount of Dmg dealing by the tanks at the time. It was possible to "break through" the tank but there was not enough time because it inflicted huge DMG. > . > Let's give Malphite as an example: Why does his dmg scale with armor or something similar? Let him have an alternative scaling with Ap so that it can be played as a funny pick or an alternative to hopeless situations such as Darius where Malphite cant come closer to creep. > In the current league, Malphite full Tank deals to ADC 80% -100% hp for the whole combo. What? Such a thing should not take place. Tank is supposed to take damage instead of dealing it, and for example provide some kind of CC and all that. Such a Malphite combo should do max 40% hp and the rest should be from another source like "my magician" or "my ADC". or from items like thornmail or sunfire. > > I would honestly prefer situations where as a tank in TF I stand at the front and stop my opponents by using cc or Hp before killing my "Carry" instead of shooting 1 enemy adc as Ornn like now ... > > There is also a matter of the number of heroes in the game. In my opinion, there are too many of them. There will always be some OP. > About "solo carry": is no longer there because the number of heroes with self healing self shield and cc is too large As far as I remember "tank" meta was only a thing twice in the history of LoL. Old Warmog with it's interaction with Atma's (The old meta golem era of Frozen Mallet/Warmogs/Triforce/Atma's/Force of Nature and when they first added Cinderhulk. Debatably the first wasn't even tank abuse... it was Bruiser abuse.... Outside of that there has been no tank meta's. Unless you count when Ekko/Fizz/Victor/Karma were/are abusing IBG... but they aren't even tanks....
I just don't see how tanky builds being an option makes a " tank meta" are tanks not supposed to be part of the game? lol
: Every Season has had different issues. i can only speak on the seasons i have played. Season 3? the assassin meta with DFG. Season 4? more of the same until DFG got removed. Then came Kalista... Season 5 had the kalista meta and juggernaut meta. Do you know what people were complaining about then? There wasn't enough dmg to get through the tanks. Season 6? The vision meta where games would go until 40-50 min because everyone would ward and power farm until 1 team fight at baron decided the game. Season 7? The ardent meta. Season 8? Runes and full power Akali and Irelia fresh off of reworks. Not to mention the Crit changes which made ADC unplayable.
I am pretty sure you could play Soraka mid in season 3 and it was OP. She got her rework in season 4 then she was really OP support. lol
: I seen a 3500 hp Garen get dropped by Fiora within 8 seconds, and Garen was the one with better items. Whats the point of a tank anymore lmao.
Not every champion does % health true damage only Fiora and Vayne do it consistently. Also building tank and expecting to outscale against Fiora is kinda troll, doesn't Garen use Tinity Phantom Dancer and maybe a bramble vest to counter her heal? That's all he needs. Still Wondering why Fiora took that long to kill Garen, she must have been really far behind and Garen really useless if he didn't kill her in that time.
: Exactly, finally someone pointed out that it all started in S8.
: The games are to long as it is 30 min to an hour long games are ridiculous we who has time for that??? If only we aimed for 15-30 min rounds with a quicker early game so we loft off faster
: Which moba has 100% balance? or which game is 100% balanced. You can't 100% balance a game.
> [{quoted}](name=NF Remilia,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=5Nr4GR1J,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2020-02-07T11:16:40.067+0000) > > Which moba has 100% balance? or which game is 100% balanced. > You can't 100% balance a game. I can tell you which game doesn't even try.
: League is basically unplayable in its current form.
My game is crashing at 8-10 min 80% of the time and Riot still hasn't fixed it after like 3 months so RIot can actually just go fuck itself, but please stop crying about you failing because you need ignite top and still lose lane with it. Yes if you have shitty wave management and don't think about good all ins + resets you will lose lane BECAUSE you got first blood with ignite. That has nothing to do with balance though, is just you not thinking about your own plays. It's infinitely more annoying if you TP to lane and your game just crashes because it's completely broken this season so you are back in base with tp on cd and then you fall like 1-2 level and like 20-30 cs behind.
Tentaku (EUNE)
: Here's an idea: instead of nerfing Soraka Top give people reason to NOT play Soraka Top
What is a bruiser though? Do you mean like OP shit like Morde or Sett or even Yorick that win by default against a lot of the melee champions and even get to outsustain mages? Or something like Kled, Jax, Camille, who are also really powerful but have no issue with Soraka top because they can just jump her the moment she does her pathetic Q poke thing.
MyranWoR (EUW)
: How the fuck do you play this game without losing your sanity?
You forgot to add that you were first pick top and got counterpicked so you kinda had to rely on your team not being completely outmatched, since match up balance for top simply DOES NOT EXIST.
: There is no way the nerfs to Soraka are balanced (LMFAO)
Honestly looks like they want to enforce W max to make sure she stays bot but the way they are doing this is very... ambitious... > [New] Now notes "if cast while affected with Rejuvenation, Soraka will incur no Max Health cost" This is huge Also W max heal buffed from 200 to 220 So the pattern is something like, if you hit your useless Q once (it is now pretty useless except for the slow + with higher mana cost almost 0 damage), you get to spam the buffed W that costs less mana with NO HEALTH COST. So that means W max and cdr rush. It's gonna be a much more reactive playstyle where you wait for your opponent (or your adc) to do something and use it to land Q, it's usually easier to hit Q if your opponents are going for an obvious engage/trade or are already committed and then you get rewarded by being able heal without health cost. Depending on how often you can press W during one Rejuv. this is a huge buff to Sorakas sustain in a duo, because for every W cast she would lose 10% of her max health.... the health she doesn't have to spend anymore will be much more than the Q self heal nerf. This also means tankier builds especially with items that give bonus health will be much much more viable on Soraka. Tbh this is much smarter than giving Soraka the incentive to poke constantly. We have to keep in mind that Riot wants to keep her interactive, but making her too interactive turns her into a lane bully as we can see. On the other hand all enchanters are lane bullies by proxy, because they support their adc who then gets to bully you, but tbh that's just how backline supports work, you can't expect them to "fix" that. Grievous Wound are still in the game so it's debatable if this will have any impact at all or if the damage nerf to Q is more impactful and make Soraka very weak.... it's really hard to tell because LoL players have this tendency of underestimating the levels of brokenness that Grievous Wounds items have been given by Riot and often they don't buy it because they don't care or whatever... idk. The way Soraka is balanced is something like if you rush {{item:3123}} she is trash and if you don't she just stomps you, really bad balancing tbh and it's really sad that this is still in the game and that Riot just can't be arsed to find a more fine tuned way to balance healers, BECAUSE they are so FKIN LAZY. Also whenever Soraka is perceived as strong people will pay more attention to their items and healing counters and if she is perceived as weak they might be less likely to do that. This being said, the decision of your opponent to buy such an item is still 10 times more impactful than this change. At least Soraka can now W targets that are debuffed without losing health if she hits Q first. Using W on debuffed targets always felt really bad. 10% of your health for nothing. LOL Overall I think it's gonna remove Soraka top and be a powershift for Soraka bot but might also turn out to be a huge buff to Soraka bot especially in low elo and for inexperienced Soraka players that never tried to play aggressive to begin with. Also one last thing: no matter how her winrate will develop if this goes life, it's gonna be meaningless unless we also get "grievous wounds rates".
: > [{quoted}](name=Illabethe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ubAbANMu,comment-id=,timestamp=2020-02-07T02:43:06.136+0000) > > (I'm just going to start going Top Nami, Sona, Lulu, Janna, so they can all get nerfed into 45% champions too) I recommend starting by bring attention to how OP {{champion:432}} is with the new build that has slowly been increasing in popularity over the last month or so {{item:3117}} {{item:3742}} {{item:3094}} . It is higher win rate from the support role than {{champion:16}} is from top lane.
Looks like the build that bard players always used when they wanted int really fast, idk what happened there. LMAO
: I saw another post a few days ago suggesting they move the Rejuvenation from her Q to her W instead. As in you still proc the effects of Rejuvenation with her Q but it scales with her W instead so people would need to choose between damage and healing. https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/XIsEAlOX-idea-to-nerf-top-soraka-but-keep-support-soraka-viable Grievous wounds is literally the bane of any champion that can heal others or themselves but a lot of people are "allergic" to buying an Executioner's Calling (800 gold), Bramble Vest (1000 gold), or Morellonomicon (3000 gold) if it means they can't build the same way every single game.
That's how it used to be since season 4 until Riot changed it in season 6, enabling Q max bully Soraka since then, so over 3 years Soraka top was kinda annoying to play against for some picks, still completely irrelevant to others. xD
: Because Soraka top is doing so much damage building support items to champions who run Second Wind, often build Mag resist into their builds, etc. The only thing Soraka top does: postpones the lane, forces them to fall behind in taking a turret, and forces them to destabilize a freeze so her Jungler can gank.
Senna top with glacial is way more disgusting. You don't even have to farm, you just farm wraith from your opponents and make sure they get as little exp and cs as possible, you can even take support items to have wards and a free item, take like 3 cs per wave and your are good. Then there also is Vayne top and both probably destroy Soraka.
: Riot not determining the meta is the past bro. Riot is forcing meta ever since S8, they broke every rule about changes they have ever made.
Wasn't the season 4 Soraka rework also meant to turn her into a pure support? Later on though in season 6 they did some minor changes and turned her into a lane bully again, because people were crying too much about Soraka being too safe when she didn't have to poke with Q constantly. Or when was Kindred released? 2015 pure jungle champion. Riot is enforcing the meta for a very long time. They are just not very good at it + the balance is aweful.
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