: In light of the recent Nightblue3 controversy...
Sex Education is really good. :) There is only one season on Netflix but it has been renewed for another season because of its popularity :)
: Ah. I must admit I haven't seen this post, I've only seen the echo chamber posts which strongly criticize everyone involved. Cheers!
Is no one else slightly uneasy at what that statement actually says though? Effectively, if you end up in a game with another person that is streaming (whether or not you know them is irrelevant) then you should be forced to play the game a particular way because of that? I mean, if someone wishes to stream the game then all power to them - that's their prerogative and they can do what they like; but since when did Players 1, 2, 3 and 4 have to accommodate the wider audience of Player 5 when they didn't even ask for it? It makes absolutely no sense, so the original statement just tells me that it was thrown together while clutching on straws to diffuse a situation of which has a very, very easy fix. That fix being punish all of those who broke rules - regardless of excuses - and do not punish those that did not. It's as clear as black and white.
: This crazy idea might get me to gold.... idk though....
Malzahar is a really good champion to play if you are looking to climb :) His passive is really useful to block spells and attacks, and he's incredibly good at clearing waves and pushing in lanes relatively safely. Fairly easy to learn and play as well.
T2K Baka (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Say Youre Sorry,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EdIEjENE,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-06-18T10:06:43.646+0000) > > I think the jist of the point that people make is that regardless of whether or not Riot determines Nubrac to be in the wrong for his own actions, each person is responsible for themselves and their own conduct. > > The argument that Nightblue makes is that he is allowed to AFK in a game because two others did it first. Taking this excuse and applying it elsewhere, that is no different from Player 3 saying they are allowed to be racist in chat because Players 1 and 2 were racist first. That is not how it works and it is common knowledge - more so for longterm players of the game - that the rules should be adhered to at all times, irrespective of the behaviour of others. > > The way in which the situation was handled appears biased at the very least; and that is what has a lot of people frustrated at it. From what i have seen, people's argument is that Nubrac had an off meta build, which is completely false. His build was meta poke supp, what he did was wrong and what NB3 was wrong as well. But if Nubrac wasn't being an asshat then NB3 wouldn't have acted the way he did.
> [{quoted}](name=T2K Baka,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EdIEjENE,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-06-18T10:09:44.165+0000) > > From what i have seen, people's argument is that Nubrac had an off meta build, which is completely false. His build was meta poke supp, what he did was wrong and what NB3 was wrong as well. But if Nubrac wasn't being an asshat then NB3 wouldn't have acted the way he did. Once again, that just reaffirms the point I made. Regardless of how someone may feel about the actions of others, it is never going to justify an excuse to break the rules yourself. Countless people are told to ignore it and make use of the report function if they feel negatively impacted on during their games. Did Nightblue report it? Yes. Did he ignore it? No. I'm also not a fan of the concept that a player must alter their gameplay to accommodate a streamer in their game. One of the Riot comments on Reddit I believe pointed out that this particular playstyle should not be done when a high profile streamer is in their game. With that in mind, if a person wishes to stream their games then that is their prerogative and their choice, but it in itself should not impose onto others which is the tone I pick up from that statement. And lastly, I just felt that it was rather ironic that a sentence along the lines of: "It looks bad when a streamer is still griefing two days after being reported" is said by a streamer that was breaking the rules himself during the game. I'm not particularly sure whether it's simply American culture to prove oneself right or if it is just a case that these particular people feel entitled, but whichever way it is they are oblivious to the obvious. In other parts of the world, we would call that a "fool".
: So is a meta enforceable?
The "META" cannot be enforceable because it is ever evolving by literal definition. META is an abbreviation for "Most Effective Tactic Available". "Most" is an irregular superlative adjective in English. The superlative quite literally singles out a sole particular noun and compares it to all others of its type. For example: "Mrs Smith lives in the _biggest_ house in Florida." "Jane Doe purchased the _most beautiful_ mirror in the store." In league of legends style, one may say: "Sona and Taric bot lane is the _most effective_ duo currently." And for the comparative, one may say: "Soraka is _more effective_ as a support than a top laner." Such descriptions can be used both objectively and subjectively depending on the topic. The "META" is subjective as it has always been determined by opinion of the playerbase; and opinion itself is dynamic.
T2K Baka (NA)
: Nightblue3 had every right to be upset (Thanks for the downvotes)
I think the jist of the point that people make is that regardless of whether or not Riot determines Nubrac to be in the wrong for his own actions, each person is responsible for themselves and their own conduct. The argument that Nightblue makes is that he is allowed to AFK in a game because two others did it first. Taking this excuse and applying it elsewhere, that is no different from Player 3 saying they are allowed to be racist in chat because Players 1 and 2 were racist first. That is not how it works and it is common knowledge - more so for longterm players of the game - that the rules should be adhered to at all times, irrespective of the behaviour of others. The way in which the situation was handled appears biased at the very least; and that is what has a lot of people frustrated at it.
5050BS (NA)
: So what champ will counter New Mord?
I like playing malzahar into morde. Especially once you get your Rylai's, it is very easy to harass him. If you want to be extra safe, buy a banshees veil on top of malz passive and morde will have an extremely difficult time ever catching you lol.
Pika Fox (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Hotarµ,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=JkkrHnp3,comment-id=000000030001,timestamp=2019-06-15T21:06:33.419+0000) > > Do you know what's most critical to success at high level play? > > _Communication._ > > You can solo-carry a game at Silver IV because people aren't coordinated at that level of play, you can't win a game at the highest level of play unless everyone is on the same page which _isn't going to happen if you stay dead silent throughout the match while going roaming Teemo support._ > > If you think differently, that's totally fine and you're entitled to that opinion but the overwhelming majority of the community abides by a meta for a reason and if they choose to deviate from it you'd better have the skills to back it up or your team had better be prepared for that. > > So, knowing full well that your teammate doesn't agree with that playstyle and doesn't want you to do it, you go to support Irelia. > > Great! She's up 2 kills and 20 CS, but because you've been leeching off her XP she falls behind and might not be as relevant in teamfights. In addition to that, your ADC is 0/4 with 35 CS by 14 minutes. He's tilted, doesn't want to play the game anymore, and is so far behind that it would take a miracle for him to come back to relevancy. > > "Good faith" is not all that's required to win a game. League is a _team_ game for a reason, you have allies. Cooperate with them, discuss your plan, _tell_ them what you're going to be doing instead of leaving them in the dark like Nubrac. Communication doesnt exist in solo queue, and even if you have a good idea that plays differently, no one will let you do it because its different. It is better to just do it, their opinions be damned, and let them learn in time. You do not need your teams permission to play the game. Ever. Your statements do not work for this game. Irelia DOES NOT NEED LEVELS nearly as much as mages. She gains no major powerspike at 6 compared to mages. TF CANNOT use his powerspike at 6 IF his lane is under siege. His main snowball playstyle no longer works with 2 mid, shutting down the cornerstone of the enemies playstyle. Sivir CAN EASILY hold bot solo. Taric and sona cannot threaten sivir, and sivir has the waveclear to handle pressure bot. You also still have a jungler. If his team played the game instead of bitching about a non existent troll, they could have easily won with the advantage teemo gave them mid. But they chose to complain and afk. Teemo wasnt griefing his team, his team was griefing him. And im willing to bet, the majority of players would agree with this, given the uproar when the stupid statement came out with support singed. The players do not agree with riot.
I agree with you. Everyone has their own interpretation of how the game should be played. Some people prefer passive farming, others prefer aggressive playstyle, others prefer objective control. It all varies and at the end of the day the best thing to do is just get on with it, whatever that may be. I mean, in a lot of games if you simply wish someone a good morning, most cases the first thing you are going to get as a response is along the lines of "stfu". The community is plagued by toxicity, and the best way to stay out of it is to just ignore the chat functions completely and rely on the ping communications. And more so, why is it that the solo lanes must be mid and top? What is preventing the solo lanes being on bot and top, and the duo lanes being on mid? Wouldn't that even make more sense for a support to be mid as they have easier access to ward both sides of the jungle? Would it not also be better if the duo lane was the mid lane, and then that could easily be turned into a 4 person gank on top or bot with the jungler to secure kills? Point being, is that there are many ways to play the game and to spice things up, and that is what keeps it fresh. Too many people are stuck in the mindset that it 'must' be played a specific way and that that certain goalposts 'must' be met.
Hotarµ (NA)
: > But that's kind of where the problem lies. One toxic person is using his Riot connections to get someone banned. Wouldn't it make sense for them to investigate that whole game fully then and also see NB3's toxic attitude there? ## [Riot has already stated that multiple people have reported Nubrac for his actions.](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/c0m449/nightblue3_gets_his_teammate_banned_for_playing/er61hxj/?context=3) Yes, he could be lying but if you look at the support multiple high ELO players have shown, it's pretty obvious that Nubrac was not a popular player and pissed a _lot_ of people off to the point where they considered him a troll. >Only Nubrac got punished for that game yakno. Riot hasn't made a decision on the situation as a whole IIRC. If Nightblue doesn't get punished, yeah, that's very hypocritical and I don't agree with that at all.
I mean to be fair, most of those that play league probably do not want to be involved in the chat functions full stop. A lot of the time, it is nothing but childish, petty toxicity. That is part of the prominent culture of the game which has developed, so can you really blame people for simply deciding not to make use of it at all? The entire thing is a double-edged sword though. Nonetheless, I'd still prefer having someone in my team that is actually contributing to the game - even if it is their own strategy - as opposed to those who will sit and AFK in the base.
: Nightblue gets a player Falsely banned.
It was a cheese strategy. Yes, it is uncommon, but there is logic behind it. TF is an auto attack focused champion, and a Teemo is a nightmare for those champions because of his Q blind. From level 1, an Irelia and a Teemo can easily burst down a squishy TF while a Sivir very easily can solo farm a lane against a sona and a taric. Sivir has much better wave clear than those two combined. Meanwhile, Sivir is getting a lot of solo experience and the mid lane experience is split, but if they are able to zone away TF enough he is going to have a very small amount of gold and quickly will become rather irrelevant in the game for a long time. Getting the mid turret down fast allows for a lot of plate gold for irelia and she will be able to roam herself securing kills and assists on both top and bot. There are all sorts of cheese strategies, such as 5 champions invading the enemy jungle as a group before the minions even hit the lanes, or by having two traditional support champions instead of a traditional support and a traditional ADC. What isn't okay though is to punish one person for a cheese strategy, while the others were flaming them in chat, sitting in the fountain being AFK, calling for reports and so on. That is double standards.

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